Husqvarna 2100CD

[PJ65]

I'm in Eastern Idaho and one popped up on Facebook Marketplace for 500.00 a couple months ago.  I snoozed. 

[HolmenTree]

Another option is find a 285 and put a 2100 p/c on it.
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[sawguy21]

 :D That would keep the boys guessing. What did you DO to that thing? 2100's in decent condition are hard to find and sellers ask top dollar for them. Same with 090's. I am not a logger, too old for that game but want one of each just 'cuz.  Kevin, you mentioned the 075. I worked in a saw shop in the 70's and learned to hate them. : 

[Real1shepherd]

:D That would keep the boys guessing. What did you DO to that thing? 2100's in decent condition are hard to find and sellers ask top dollar for them. Same with 090's. I am not a logger, too old for that game but want one of each just 'cuz.  Kevin, you mentioned the 075. I worked in a saw shop in the 70's and learned to hate them. :

Lol....well, I tread warily here in Squeal Country. The 075 was a bloated whale. And if I took any fasteners off it, they better go back with blue Loctite or they'd just back out and drop onto the forest floor.

But even that saw brings major money these days....go figure.

I wonder if Husky used that crummy recoil of the 298 on the 285?

Kevin

[Al_Smith]

Husqvarna decades ago made a power play in this area .More or less said Stihl or them,they lost .As such the only models you find might be at Lowes or something and those being for occasional usage not professional .I have no interest in them .I do have in addition to the 2100 a 281 which is also a nice saw . I might mention two little model 235's which were  a less expensive option to at the time to an 020T  Stihl .Nope nearly as good I might add . My repair parts come from a dealer in the Carolinas as there are no local dealers .

[Real1shepherd]

Another option is find a 285 and put a 2100 p/c on it.
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Unless you have a 2100/2101 P&C lying around, you will pay dearly for those...like almost the price of a good used saw.

Kevin

[Al_Smith]

If you cut to the chase it all boils down to how much you want to spend on the restoration of anything .Speaking again a collector /restorer I've spent years on certain things finding parts for a reasonable price before a certain part might show up .I'm talking from Indian motorcyles to Caterpillar tractors and chainsaws .I must admit the internet has made the chase much easier these days .

[Real1shepherd]

But then....some people are born scroungers. They don't mind getting insulted or doing things that most of us wouldn't. I have a saw friend in the deep South who is into collecting/restoring many marques. But he has a real passion for Jonsereds.

He works the Internet for all it's worth and is heavy into social media. The fruits of his labor have leap-frogged him into about any Jonsereds part you can imagine for the older & newer models. He makes finding stuff look easy. Point being that there are still a lot of parts out there if you know where to look......same with older Huskies.

My hat is off to people like that...... pc_smiley.


Kevin

[Al_Smith]

Not everybody has the patience or the where with all to do it .Not to mention the skill level required .As I 've said before I've seen relatively good automobile mechanics who are totally lost on a two cycle engine .By the same token I've seen people who don't know a spark plug from a muffler .
I'm of the firm opinion any thing made with human hands can be figured out but first it takes  the desire to do it 

[Real1shepherd]

I absolutely don't have the patience to scrounge for saw parts, nor do I have the interest in devoting lots of time to it. So I really appreciate those who have the 'discovery' genes.

There's a guy up in SK Canada who is a real scrounger......he went all over NA looking for saw parts for Husky, Jonsereds and other marques. He had some novel winning successes and also being just a little too late to learn that truckloads of NOS parts went to the dump. He put together saws from NOS parts and sold them to collectors.

But......in this hobby there are some parasitic types looking to turn a profit off of others hard work and not being particularly honest in the process. So he grew disenchanted and the 'fun' factor was gone.

Kevin

[HolmenTree]

There's a guy up in SK Canada who is a real scrounger......he went all over NA looking for saw parts for Husky, Jonsereds and other marques. He had some novel winning successes and also being just a little too late to learn that truckloads of NOS parts went to the dump. He put together saws from NOS parts and sold them to collectors.

But......in this hobby there are some parasitic types looking to turn a profit off of others hard work and not being particularly honest in the process. So he grew disenchanted and the 'fun' factor was gone.

Kevin

I think I know who this guy is from southern Saskatchewan.
. He travels lots and buys up antique saws and resells them. I steered him towards a 2 man 1940s 250cc Villiers.

But I have a older brother who lives up in northern Saskatchewan.
He bought a Husqvarna 2100 from a collector in New Brunswick.
This 2100 is still in its original box and has never had fuel in it  

[Real1shepherd]

There's a guy up in SK Canada who is a real scrounger......he went all over NA looking for saw parts for Husky, Jonsereds and other marques. He had some novel winning successes and also being just a little too late to learn that truckloads of NOS parts went to the dump. He put together saws from NOS parts and sold them to collectors.

But......in this hobby there are some parasitic types looking to turn a profit off of others hard work and not being particularly honest in the process. So he grew disenchanted and the 'fun' factor was gone.

Kevin

I think I know who this guy is from southern Saskatchewan.
. He travels lots and buys up antique saws and resells them. I steered him towards a 2 man 1940s 250cc Villiers.

But I have a older brother who lives up in northern Saskatchewan.
He bought a Husqvarna 2100 from a collector in New Brunswick.
This 2100 is still in its original box and has never had fuel in it  

Yes, he has the same first name as me. He also a few yrs ago swept through the US all the way to the west coast.I tried to meet up with him, but we had communication problems.

It's been six or seven yrs now but a 2101 that never had oil/gas through it went through eBay for over $3,000.

Kevin

[HolmenTree]

Have to give him credit he does love chainsaws.
He came up one winter to my logger sports competition at our winter festival in The Pas, Manitoba. He setup a display of some of the best of his collection.
He was able to wheel and deal with the audience and collected quite a few saws.

[HolmenTree]

I'm not sure what my brother paid for his NOS 2100.

[HolmenTree]

Here's some big timber cut with a 2100 in the early 1980's on Vancouver Island Canada.


 

 

[Al_Smith]

Every so often a rare bird pops up which is not normally snapped up by anybody but a real serious collector .One such is the very last Stihl 090 ever sold in Canada by John Lambert and is now near Medina Ohio and it too has never been fueled .I know the two persons in the deal and have had the saw in my hot little hands .Nice saw !

[sawguy21]

They got snapped up when the word came out. I could have sold at least 6 more but couldn't get them.

[Spike60]

The difference in saw values between the real world and the collector arena is amazing. Most of my collection has just wandered in the door of the shop over the years. Customers not wanting to put money into old saws, loggers and tree companies "cleaning out the shop" bring in a bunch at a time. Funny thing is that the big cube saws that bring big bucks in the collector market like 2100's and Jonsered 111's are of the least interest to those that have them lying around. They are just big, old, heavy saws that you can't get parts for. People don't want to run saws like that, so if they can't get any use out of them, they'd just as soon get rid of them.

Some customers trade them in on something newer. I let them put a value on what they think it's worth. The real gems have been pro saws that were never used commercially. Some guys just like better tools and want more than the basic/minimum saw for their own use. 70E, 930Super, SXL925, are a few that have come this way. I have a mint Husky 65 that was bought years ago, "took down 3 trees" and was never used again.

This split in values is I think unique to the saw hobby. You won't find it with guns where everyone knows what they have and what it's worth. Nobody practically gives away the old 6-pack Roadrunner in the barn just to make room. But you don't always have to pay big money for saws. Patience isn't always easy though.

[sawguy21]

I have a nice 65 the young fellow inherited from his grandfather, wouldn't use it because no chain brake. I have only bought two saws that I really wanted because of condition, the rest are freebies and some run with little or no tlc. Trouble is, often as soon as I express interest the dollar signs appear in their eyes.

[Real1shepherd]

The difference in saw values between the real world and the collector arena is amazing. Most of my collection has just wandered in the door of the shop over the years. Customers not wanting to put money into old saws, loggers and tree companies "cleaning out the shop" bring in a bunch at a time. Funny thing is that the big cube saws that bring big bucks in the collector market like 2100's and Jonsered 111's are of the least interest to those that have them lying around. They are just big, old, heavy saws that you can't get parts for. People don't want to run saws like that, so if they can't get any use out of them, they'd just as soon get rid of them.

Some customers trade them in on something newer. I let them put a value on what they think it's worth. The real gems have been pro saws that were never used commercially. Some guys just like better tools and want more than the basic/minimum saw for their own use. 70E, 930Super, SXL925, are a few that have come this way. I have a mint Husky 65 that was bought years ago, "took down 3 trees" and was never used again.

This split in values is I think unique to the saw hobby. You won't find it with guns where everyone knows what they have and what it's worth. Nobody practically gives away the old 6-pack Roadrunner in the barn just to make room. But you don't always have to pay big money for saws. Patience isn't always easy though.

Bob,
There is that split between eBay 'collector' prices and what used to happen on Craigslist, but now happens on Facebook. But the gap is closing rapidly....especially with rarer big cc saws.  

And more to the point;the mythical Holy Grail saws. The 2100/2101 fer sure, but I actually used that saw commercially as a logger and so it's not a 'hype' saw. But.....I'm also a heavy devotee of Jonsereds saws. Now, I haven't run/owned them all, but I stupidly got caught up in saw forum hype surrounding the 111S.

I got a good 'deal' on one from a collector. By "deal" I mean that if I sell, I'll at least get my money back. If I had stopped to think about the actual specs of the saw and when it was made, I probably shouldn't have bought it.

It's a design from the late 60's early 70's. It does not wrap fast and has a rather low WOT rpm(but not for its day). I thought it might be a worthy competitor to my 2100's but it's not. It has boatloads of low-end torque....most suitable in a mill or working with larger timber when you don't have time constraints.....like making money.

So really, this is a cautionary warning about 'mythical' saws you hear about on the forums. The main reason this myth on the 111S has lasted so long is that there really aren't that many out there running and doing much of anything other than pulling hard @GTG's.

My saws all need to be able to work as hard as I want to push them. No delicate parts like on the Homelite 650 Super and bloated whales like the 075 or slow dogs like the Jonsereds 111S......no thank you.

In 1970 I bought a Hemi 'cuda new with the pistol grip shifter. My friend and I worked construction all summer to buy and race that car on the streets of St.Louis as teenagers....for pink slips & money. How much would that car be worth today?? Yeah, no split values on cars and guns anymore. Knives are easy to buy cheap still...if you know what to look for and where.

Kevin

[Spike60]

Well, the thing with the 111 is that as the largest Jonny, you have to have one to complete your collection. I had everything else; multiples of several. But I had to get that missing 111! First time I ran it, it was clear it wouldn't get run very often. Pretty much as you described and seems dated compared to the 2100. It's interesting and a piece of Jonsered history, but not worth what a lot of people pay for them.


And sure enough as has happened a couple times, not long after the big search, another one showed up. Older guy traded it in on a ...........get ready to laugh.........455 Rancher. He was one of those "give me the biggest saw you got" types back when he bought it new. But he was too old to use it anymore and just wanted something for firewood. I didn't even want another 111, but I knew a collector/friend in Vermont that had also been looking for one, so I swapped it with him for nice 2163W, that I actually use frequently.

You are so right about the mythical saws and the hype that surounds them. Tomorrow I'll have to tell my funny Mac 125 story.  

[ZeroJunk]

has a rather low WOT rpm(but not for its day). I

Reminds me of a Stihl 076 that I bought sight unseen from my cousin who was getting rid of some saws for a widow. Turned out to be in pretty good shape, but I think you could count the teeth going up the bar.

[Al_Smith]

 :D They aren't that slow .Those big old Clydesdales of chainsawdom where made for one thing,big timber .That's where they shine .
Those large displacement saws are more or less collectors items these days .Make no mistake even as old as they are they will run with the few large displacement saws made today .
However to those who own them they very seldom see much use including mine .It takes some real big stuff to pull them down from the shelf  to get a run  .Then they might have sat so long the carb needs rebuilt .

[Real1shepherd]

Well, the thing with the 111 is that as the largest Jonny, you have to have one to complete your collection. I had everything else; multiples of several. But I had to get that missing 111! First time I ran it, it was clear it wouldn't get run very often. Pretty much as you described and seems dated compared to the 2100. It's interesting and a piece of Jonsered history, but not worth what a lot of people pay for them.


And sure enough as has happened a couple times, not long after the big search, another one showed up. Older guy traded it in on a ...........get ready to laugh.........455 Rancher. He was one of those "give me the biggest saw you got" types back when he bought it new. But he was too old to use it anymore and just wanted something for firewood. I didn't even want another 111, but I knew a collector/friend in Vermont that had also been looking for one, so I swapped it with him for nice 2163W, that I actually use frequently.

You are so right about the mythical saws and the hype that surounds them. Tomorrow I'll have to tell my funny Mac 125 story.

Yep.....but as far as topping off my Jonsereds collection....I only ever see the saws myself. People around here think I'm weird for collecting chainsaws, but they're judgemental in general. I think the 111S would be much happier in a real collection where it could be shown off.

I plan on going all the way through it and replacing all fuel lines, crank seals and rebuilding the carb. I have an extra P&C and so I'll polish up and put on the best of the two with new Cabers. It's in pretty good shape visually....not beat to death.....has all its parts.

There used to be 2100's that came up on eBay where some guy bought one and ran it just to take care of one big tree....then retired it. Or a woodcutter bought one just for firewood and it was too much saw etc. I was too stubborn to pay over $300 for one back then. I saw a collection once with pics of over 50 of them....to me that's hoarding. If I was sitting on that kinda value, they'd be out the door. I feel guilty for having two because they're not used all the time.....lol.

Do tell the MAC 125 story!

Kevin

[Al_Smith]

I've came to the point if they are not rare or have the potential to be made into a hot rod I'm not too interested .
If I collected all the freebies people got tired of tripping over I'd be up to my hip pockets in them .
The two I'm working on now,Partner P100/Mac 1000 have been the most entailed I've ever done which includes me resleeving a Mac 125 with a cast iron liner .Just the  time it took to chase down parts most would have given up .It's not my first rodeo though because I've been down that road many a time and likely will go as long as I live .If it were easy anybody could do it  8)