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Started by Buzz-sawyer, June 23, 2005, 03:51:02 PM

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Buzz-sawyer

Any body recognize this???
It was sold in the 1930's as a simply kitchen appliance .....THE ICE BALL ...just set one side in hot water an wa'la'........ice


Kirk sounds interesting :P :P........actually I have been experimenting with a similair process with vegitable oil in the process of making bio diesel more simply.

Deadhead YES 8) 8)

JT
It sounds like ya are in the same book on this thing...........I primarily need some "Brass tacks"....simplified practical pointers ta set this up.........book learning is one thing actual experience, such as yours is GOLD ;)
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Fla._Deadheader

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   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

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Buzz-sawyer

Intermittent Solar Ammonia Absorption Cycle Refrigerator

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SwampDonkey

Buzz, good thing it's the weekend cause ya wouldn't have any time to run the saw with all this brain storm'in. ;D :D
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

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2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Fla._Deadheader


  Donk, Ya gotta admit, he's GOOD at it though.   ;) ;D :) :)
All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Buzz-sawyer

Swampy .......A valid point.........If I am indoors....I am reading and studying this forum and one or two topics of intererst Simultaneously.............PROBABLY altogether too much!!!!
However, being that this is my principale excess.I often excuss myself :D :D :D
When it is rather hot (100) here..........you will see my posts OFTEN! 8) 8) ;)
EDIT
Hey nobody is on here more than YOU swampter :o :o :D
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SwampDonkey

Me? !  ;D :D :) :D ;D

Big brother must be watching me again. Or there's a hidden time clock I forgot to punch out at.  Err, hmmm ::) Don't let them posting numbers fool ya, they can be edited. ;D :D
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1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Don_Papenburg

The O2 gets in if a valve is left open ,say in an empty tank. or the valves on the tank where the hose connects tends to rust if the dust caps are left off.
I never did any thing that compicated  . I have just graduated to Ice House . Hope it will work . I have been interested in heat activated cooling since I was a Kid and my grandfather had a natural gas fridge. Boggled my mind that a fire under the fridge could make it cool. That just wasn't logical to a young fella.
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wiam

The guy I bought my Central Boiler from claimed to have the technology, but not the time to hook it up to his walk-in cooler.  I might have to call him.

Will

Buzz-sawyer

JT
I want to build a 5 ton unit, capable cooling the house and food.
Tell me some more about your a/c projects :)
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dail_h

   I been keeping up with this the whole time,still don't understand the fire to ice thingy. Anyway when I got home from church today,my buddy Ben was here messin with his tractor.He lives at the beach,his JD 50 lives with me ;D ;D ;DHe is an industrial refridgeration contractor or some such thing. I asked him about this thread,his reply was oh h%^%$ thats simple as droppin dead,and proceded to 'splain in great detail the theory and howto,'course it was lost on me. I know he knowes what he's talking about though, 'cause he built his own ice plant several years ago,and made a living with it for several years. He'e just now finishing up a portable ice plant for cooling sweetcorn,and brocili.
   I tried to get him to come on here and help out,but he's currently offline,has some foreign(Russian)students living in his apartment. If you guys are really interested in talkin wif him ,im me,and I'll get your # to him. Told him I was thinking of puttin in a boiler for heat,he said he could do the ac easy. Would have to use ammonia,and black iron pipe,copper,and brass can't stand ammonia. Hope this helps
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Buzz-sawyer

Well, it could help If ........................I could pick his brain about the particular practical things I need to build my 5 ton system. like Him jawing with me saying,"This is how I would do it Buzz!"............ ;) :D ;D
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DouginUtah


Back in the early 70s I lived in an apartment building with natural gas air conditioners. All summer long, at least twice a week I would see the Gas Company guys up on the roof trying to get them working.  :(  Maybe they are better now, but I doubt it.

-Doug
-Doug
When you hang around with good people, good things happen. -Darrell Waltrip

There is no need to say 'unleaded regular gas'. It's all unleaded. Just say 'regular gas'. It's not the 70s anymore. (At least that's what my wife tells me.)

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Buzz-sawyer

Well Doug, Every high rise in the entire world uses chillers powered by gas..................???
Maybe a few heat the ammonia with eklectric...but thts VERY expensive.
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Buzz-sawyer

We have lots of newer members and chiller specialists out there???
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Don_Papenburg

They better show up it's getting to that time of the year when we need to cool our beer.
Frick saw mill  '58   820 John Deere power. Diamond T trucks

Buzz-sawyer

Plus, Don, I like to cool off the ole Buzz whenits hot too 8) 8) 8)
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SwampDonkey

"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Don_Papenburg

Then you have to go take a bath  , the river is poluted.
Frick saw mill  '58   820 John Deere power. Diamond T trucks

electromech

   I drew up a sketch. Even with lower pressure at the evaporation point I'm not sure aqueous ethylene glycol at any percentage would create a cool enough solution to refrigerate. Even with a really hard vacuum the solution boils at lowest around 150F. No CFCs, non-corrosive, not explosive, not much pressure, built in antifreeze etc. Only down side I can tell (If it would cool) is that it's toxic if you drink it.

Any speculation on ammonia or methanol for this system.  Ammonia being corrosive to most metals and methanol explosive when mixed with oxygen.

Address to aqueous ethylene glycol data sheet http://www.meglobal.biz/media/produc...Global_MEG.pdf
Feel free to shoot holes in my sketch. Tips welcome

Al_Smith

Absortion types of chillers have been around for decades .Nothing new about them .It's the way a gas refridgerater works .Fact the main chillers on the U-boats were large lithium bromide units .

How to regulate such a system I have no idea but I do know they work .

bandmiller2

Buzz,seems to me you just have to substitute wood for gas in the old servell system. Frank C.
A man armed with common sense is packing a big piece

SwampDonkey

Buzz hasn't been around since the year that post was made I believe.
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

submarinesailor


barbender

I miss Buzz and many others that have moved on.
Too many irons in the fire

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