Delta 37-315 Jointer

firefighter ontheside · October 21, 2022, 09:53:47 PM

That's amazing Larry. Mine will not look that nice when I'm done.

peakbagger · October 22, 2022, 05:34:40 AM

The original power cord must have been acting like a shop heater when the motor was under load;)

kantuckid · October 22, 2022, 08:12:35 AM

My jointer has a labeled, 110v,1hp motor I inherited from my grandfather. It's about the overall size of what a modern maybe-10hp motor would be. I'd guess it dates to pre-WWII. It's huge and heavy. Maybe twice the size of my 1998 5hp planer motor. The armature acts as a heavy flywheel when spinning a small blade head on a jointer so result is far more motor than many modern versions with more hp.
My Sprunger is a near carbon copy of the Delta above. Seems they must have shared castings for some parts?
In my area we have one electric motor shop and any motor I've taken to him he's said buy a new one based on labor. Most all his work is larger industrial motors not fractional or similar woodshop stuff. I had a PM tablesaw 3hpmotor that was not repairable as needed a rewind and ebay is less money for a working motor.
My Delta 14" bandsaw is on it's 3rd motor since new. No matter that I'm buying the right one they just don't last.

firefighter ontheside · October 22, 2022, 01:33:30 PM

I'm sure that if there had been something wrong with the motor it would have been better to just buy a new or used one. I could have bought a used motor from a Jet machine for $200.

peakbagger · October 22, 2022, 02:08:01 PM

The only motor small repairs that may make sense is if the start capacitors are cooked or the bearings. In most cases labor will eat any savings over new but usually older namebrand motors are overbuilt and far better quality than off the shelf newer motors.

When I used to buy industrial motors we had a whole list of upgrades we would require over a standard motor.

firefighter ontheside · October 22, 2022, 04:28:22 PM

The only reason I knew of the motor shop I went to was that we had an exhaust fan quit working at one of the fire stations. I took the motor to them and they replaced the start capacitor. We were back in business. They were very nice to deal with then and just as nice when I took my motor in yesterday.

mapleack · October 22, 2022, 09:24:25 PM

I love seeing the good old iron saved and upgraded. If possible I'd put a 3 hp on it, I think every new 8" jointer is running 3's. It can't just be to make Tim the toolman happy. Also if you haven't seen them already Rockler or someone sells nice plastic transitions to screw to the chip discharge to connect to dust collection.
Good luck!
-Andy

firefighter ontheside · October 23, 2022, 07:52:24 AM

I'm going to see how this motor performs and go from there. Yeah, I started searching sites for a chute that will fit. I haven't seen one that will cover the outlet on the side and put the actual vac fitting in the right location. I may have to modify something to make it work right, but definitely will be putting one on there before I use it in my shop.

kantuckid · October 23, 2022, 08:32:25 AM

Vac fittings are a mixed bag as for what works where. Amazon has Rockler listings and much, much more. Of all my fittings they include several sources depending on the spot. I have the 4" swivel elbow fittings on my TS, Planer and jointer. Made from a hard rubber and work great with SS clamps. I do think there needs to be a law that says all clamps use the same size socket... ;D
They greatly help with vac jointing. My router table had to transition in size from small to 4" and there was only one seller who had the fitting, so it can be a challenge. My jointer chute has a common 4" plastic plate adapter screwed on the steel base, then the swivel elbow, then clear 4" vac line. I found an Amazom Warehouse return with a super deal on a bunch of that clear vac line-always worth a look/see as people return stuff that's same as new.

Ljohnsaw · October 23, 2022, 12:02:28 PM

I bought a big roll of clear, spiral vac line off of BidRL. There were picture but no size reference. I thought it was 4". Turns out it is 6"

Not sure what I'm going to do with 30' of that!

Tom King · October 23, 2022, 12:32:25 PM

I would put a 6" port on it. Some of mine have been made from HVAC duct fittings. If you pull a lot of air, you can collapse the thin ducting, but the adapters seem to be strong enough.

I just checked Amazon, and there is almost an unlimited supply of 6" duct adapters. Some that are already on a flat plate, and some with a flange that can be screwed to something.

kantuckid · October 24, 2022, 09:21:22 AM

Yea, the one on my jointer is very common. I found exactly one source, of many that sell such items, that sold the adapter 4" reduction adapter I used for my Highland Woodworking Router table, made from their kit years ago.
There's no danger of my suck device collapsing my 4" clear duct hose. :D 6" would lower my suction too far below practical. I'd like to have a more hp system but since it was a freebie, I stick with it motor and alu impeller. Limited to one machine at a time in a solo shop.

One piece of good suction system advice: those common plastic suction gates do "suck" and I don't mean suction. They are made in the USA but fall apart or stick, etc.. Buy the cast alu variety only!!! I've bought several on Amazon markdowns and long thrown away the leftover plastic gates. I use a 15amp Amazon remote that's cheap, like $15, for the suction motor, but only have manual shut-off gates.

firefighter ontheside · October 24, 2022, 02:15:38 PM

Yeah, when I first put together a vac system in my shop I had the plastic ones. They were TERRIBLE. It was amazing how bad they would get jammed. When I upgraded the system I went to all aluminum ones. No problem with those at all.

firefighter ontheside · October 28, 2022, 03:06:45 PM

Waiting for the helical head to arrive so I can get this thing in service. The head shipped from Toronto and somehow made its was to Chicago. At one point tracking said it would arrive on 10/24 which seemed possible since Chicago is only 5 hours away. Its now 5 days later and the package is in Indianapolis. Genius. No telling when it will actually get here. Hopefully it doesn't go any further east first.

btulloh · October 28, 2022, 05:16:37 PM

Uh oh. I've had shipments go missing in Indianapolis. Thought those days were behind us. Might be time to fill out a request for help on the shippers website. I found calling the usual number only resulted in someone reading me the same tracking info I was already seeing. Finally got some help through the other channel and they did some actual investigation.

Hope it shows up tomorrow so you can fire up that jointer! Otherwise it might be time to get some real help. Or a replacement shipment.

peakbagger · October 28, 2022, 05:49:14 PM

Check to see if it was insured. I have had stuff replaced when the original order got lost and a month or two later the original order shows up. Usually the shipper just tells me to keep it.

chet · October 29, 2022, 12:22:45 AM

Last package I had that went through Chicago took up residence there for 9 days before it decided to move on. >:(

beenthere · October 29, 2022, 12:25:30 AM

Do they go through US Customs in Chicago?

chet · October 29, 2022, 12:32:28 AM

Wasn't a customs thing as it originally shipped from Grand Rapids, Michigan. I can drive there in 9 or 10 hours, but my package took 11 days ta make the trip.

beenthere · October 29, 2022, 12:33:52 AM

My bad.

Meant re: firefighter ontheside post "head shipped from Toronto" .

firefighter ontheside · October 29, 2022, 09:44:52 AM

I'm not sure, but it sure seemed that way. Tracking said it cleared customs and the first US city that was listed in the history was Chicago. Perhaps it flew into Chicago. Now this morning it says its in St Louis, so perhaps it will arrive today, but my money is Monday.

firefighter ontheside · October 29, 2022, 07:39:20 PM

Well, sitting here at the firehouse and my wife sent me a picture of a package from Canada that looks like it could hold a jointer head.

firefighter ontheside · October 31, 2022, 12:40:54 PM

Well I got the head installed yesterday and got it dialed in this morning and all put back together. I made some shavings and a couple flat boards. I'm happy with that. I moved my old jointer out and this one into the shop. Now I just need a dust chute so I can not make a big mess.

stanmillnc · October 31, 2022, 01:12:29 PM

@firefighter ontheside Did you get that cutterhead from Sheartak? I was recently going to buy one from them for my 'new to me' Sicar 20" jointer. However, it seems like the customs duty would amount to about $1000 for a $2000 cutterhead, so I decided not to pursue at this time. Did your customs duty amount to about 35% of the cost of the head? I'm interested in hearing how you like the Sheartak head as well.

firefighter ontheside · October 31, 2022, 02:19:47 PM

Stan, yes I got it from Sheartak, but no the cost was not 35%. When I price a 20" head for my grizzly 20" planer the price in Canadian dollars is about $1300. Shipping and customs appears to add another $200CAD for a total of 1500. That equates to about $1100USD. I would check again. Put the product in your cart and go to checkout. It will show you the total.

I'm happy with the Sheartak I have in my Dewalt 13" planer. I made a few test cuts this morning with the jointer and it looks nice.