Poplar peeling tool

[MichaelBLANC]

Hi all,

Do you know which tool is appropriate to peel poplar (cottonwood) debarked log / lumber into purposefully very long, thin chips? Like on the pix below.

To treat small volumes first, bigger quantities later.

Thanks for your mostly authorized advice!

[doc henderson]

what will be the purpose of these long chips/shavings?  is there a desired width and length?  do they need to be flexible.  i.e. what thickness.

[Old Greenhorn]

OK, I'll bite. What are you using these chips for, we wonder? For starters, you could mill up some boards the thickness of the chip you want then run a good hand plane down the edge.
 Hard to guess your end game from the info you provide.
 Welcome to the forum, fill out your profile so we get an idea where you are coming from.

[Ljohnsaw]

Homemade OSB? ;)

[nativewolf]

Shaving mill?  

[MichaelBLANC]

 

 Thanks to all for your attention!

- The shavings shall be first baled tight for storage, then piled up to create a kind of gross mass filter  [not homemade OSB ;D].

- I need shavings of (length 300-500mm) X (width 8mm) X (thickness 0.5mm)

- poplar is 'hard wood', but on the tender side. Tooling & cutting speed must be adapted to produce that specific kind of shavings, and I dunno how. Hand tools cannot be considered, from the quantity required even from the start.

I am EU based, not from the wood industry ; if you see what kind of small / medium machine is appropriate, please show me pictures & refs, then the sponsors here would redirect to their overseas reps.


'Hope this helps,

[nativewolf]

Perhaps look at a tool like a Huto or Jackson shavings mill?  Basically they put a log in a box, then run a sharp blade across it making thin long shavings, I am nor sure how fine they are (thickness?).  In the USA those are placed into poultry buildings as a litter.  

How much production do you plan?  If you could get someone to make cants (square up the log) it would effectively remove most of the material that would dull the blades.  

Just thoughts.  Now, we all want to know..filters for what?

How will you kiln dry the shavings?

[MichaelBLANC]

Okay,

Thanks. I will have a look at these tools.  :P

I agree that a prior canting is recommended, I may also get lumber / planks clean & ready for processing. Kiln drying may not be necessary here.

My family once got the finished product via an exclusive contract with a wholesaler having secured contracts with some local forresters and sawmills. That was long ago. 

Today, 'volatility' of suppliers leads me to consider controlling in-house most of the labor.

BTW, it will be used to specific processing of vinegars and wines, after many preparation steps. 

[nativewolf]

Interesting use case.  There is a user that recently posted his work on creating products from a juniper that we call Eastern red cedar (though it is not, from a scientific point of view, a cedar).

He makes shavings similar to what I described.  His solution is just to throw it all in a robust grinder.  

Does it have to be that thickness?  If not it could be much less expensive using the same processes that he uses.

[customsawyer]

When you peel the shaving off of a log, it will need to be dried before you make a bale out of it. If you don't your bales will be full of mold.

[MichaelBLANC]

When you peel the shaving off of a log, it will need to be dried before you make a bale out of it. If you don't your bales will be full of mold.

Yep,
I know. Bales will be made after lengthy air drying, not filmed but just packed with ribbon liens, and after our multi-step treatment that cares about organic developments.

[Ljohnsaw]

Do you use it more than once? I'm thinking process wine then vinegar.

On a side note, I got the travel bug last year because my project was snowed in
 I visited Italy and Croatia in March and Ireland in April/May. Weather was great.

This winter is looking to be the same here.  Where are you in Portugal? What time of year is good to visit without tourists and what places do you think are best to see?

[beenthere]

Sometimes referred to as wood wool, and also the product is excelsior. 

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[MichaelBLANC]

Sometimes referred to as wood wool, and also the product is excelsior.

Wood Wool Shaving Machine Horse Bedding Machine To Make Wood Shavings - Buy Wood Shaving Machine,Machine To Make Wood Shavings,Wood Shaving Machine For Horse Bedding Product on Alibaba.com

I didn't know the word applied to this.

The machine hinted is big and does (or is set for) rather short shavings.

I found much cheaper machines (also from CN) that shall be able to do the job. I have asked about settings available + availability of replacement cutters...

[customsawyer]

My 4 sided planer is a Pinhero, made in Portugal. It's older and runs the strait knives, so the chips are smaller. They offer machines now with the insert knives that make a little bigger shavings. You might check with them and see if they have or could make something to fit your need.

[MichaelBLANC]

Do you use it more than once? I'm thinking process wine then vinegar.

On a side note, I got the travel bug last year because my project was snowed in
I visited Italy and Croatia in March and Ireland in April/May. Weather was great.

This winter is looking to be the same here.  Where are you in Portugal? What time of year is good to visit without tourists and what places do you think are best to see?

- Yes, but that is a particular use following precise recommendations. 

- Portugal is mostly crowded (especially Porto, Lisbon, Algarve region) during summer time. 11% of the country only is occupied, so there is plenty of quiet places to discover. 

Their interest depends on what visitor looks for... Archeology sites from Prehistoric to Islamic times? Long sandy beach stretches (with rather fresh waters)? Laid-back 'mediterranean' [oceanic...] lifestyle in peaceful sunny villages? Cultural and business events? 

There is all this and much more. The islands (Madeira, Azores) seem to be very nice too. I know the Northern part and the Greater Lisbon area, not much the other places.




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