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Started by Magicman, May 18, 2024, 07:16:12 PM

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Nealm66

As we fight the effects of the warmer climate here in the pnw, I question whether thinning is beneficial or not. A thick stand tends to keep the ground temperature cooler. Man, we're definitely having issues with our conifer here as well. Export logs have to either be debarked or shipped quickly as those beetles will be at them 

hardtailjohn

Quote from: Magicman on May 23, 2024, 07:27:11 AMI talked with another logger Tuesday.  Overall the sawmills have a glut of logs and are paying next to nothing plus have the loggers on a quota.  This situation is a killer for both the logger and the landowners. 

The irony is that the sawmills are selling their lumber at the same price and the lumberyard lumber is still the same.
Same here in this area....plus we've had 2 more pretty good sized mills close their doors in the last couple months. You can't give logs away. Not even good fir and larch. I talked to a friend that wanted to do some more thinning on us and he said he wouldn't even be able to pay for the fuel and labor at the rates the remaining mills are offering.
JH
I'm so far behind, I think I'm ahead!

Magicman

It's good to hear from you John, but I hated to read that your timber market is also in the dumpster.  :veryangry:
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hardtailjohn

We will survive!  I guess it's just "weeding out" a few.  It sure isn't what it used to be...but then, neither am I! ffcool :thumbsup:
I'm so far behind, I think I'm ahead!

Magicman

I came in at noon today.  I did not finish.....just quit for the day.  Showered, ate lunch, and will attempt to be worthless this afternoon.   I earned it 'cause I am only 6 weeks away from my 81st Birthday.  :wacky:
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

snobdds

We had this happen out west in the early 2000's.  The pine Beatle killed million of acres of forest. On my property in the mountains, it was depressing and looking around, a seemingly monumental task to fix.  

However, how do you eat an elephant...one bite at a time.  We decided there is no use dwelling on this and got to work.  I cut down hundreds of trees, chipped thousands of branches and spend hours raking the forest floor. 

We are now 18 years later and the forest is back to it's thriving self.  This taught me a lot.  It turns out the forest was sick and over crowded to the point there wasn't really any wildlife or production of any kind.   After the thinning and sunlight, the forest floor exploded in life and the animals came back. Then in 2020 multiple huge fires went through and took care of all the dead logs.  We are now going on 4 years and again, the animals came back and the forest is alive again.   

Mother nature is always in control.  

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