iDRY Vacuum Kilns

Sponsors:

Lack of blade lube control

Started by Brad_bb, September 22, 2024, 03:12:16 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Brad_bb

I've always had a problem with control of the lube on my 2014 LT15 since new.  It has the jug mounted up high with a plastic valve on the jug, and a brass 1/4 turn valve under the engine.  I just got back to doing some milling after almost 9 months.  Everyone has always said to adjust the flow at the tank valve, and just tweak it with the brass valve.  I'm not sure if it's the surface tension of the water or what, but I set the tank valve to a good flow rate, but after milling a few minutes the flow slows to nearly zero.  I go back and adjust the tank valve again, and same thing. It's always been either too much or too little.  I use dawn and water and my jug is at least half full.  I'm not sure what to do to control the flow rate?  Is the answer a different valve?  Is it a surface tension problem?    Any one solved this one?
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

ladylake


 Is the tank vent plugged.  Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

booman

Sometimes just opening everything all the way and flushing it out helps.  Make sure there is no debris in the water jug.
2019 LT15G25WIDE, 2013 LT35HDG25, Stihl MS880 with 59" bar with Alaskan sawmill attachment.  John Deere 5045 tractor with forks, bucket and grapple.  Many chainsaws.

Brad_bb

Nope, it's all clean.  Vent cap is off the jug.
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

Brad_bb

I wonder if the lube needs to be pressurized more than just the head created by gravity in order to the control the flow with a more fine adjustment valve?
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

SawyerTed

I switched the plastic ball valve on the tank to a brass gate valve.  It gave very good control of the drip rate without vibrating closed or open. 
Woodmizer LT50, WM BMS 250, WM BMT 250, Kubota MX5100, IH McCormick Farmall 140, Husqvarna 372XP, Husqvarna 455 Rancher

jpassardi

I retrofitted mine to a Cooks diesel felt dripper, much better with pitchy pine. No plans to go back to water base.
LT15 W/Trailer, Log Turner, Power Feed & up/down
CAT 416 Backhoe W/ Self Built Hydraulic Thumb and Forks
Husky 372XP, 550XPG, 60, 50,   WM CBN Sharpener & Setter
40K # Excavator, Bobcat 763, Kubota RTV 900
Orlan Wood Gasification Boiler -Slab Disposer

Brad_bb

I only cut hardwood, so dawn and water work fine.  I might pick up some cotton spindle lube and try that.  I found that Shoupparts carries it in 1 and 5 gallon. 
Cotton spindle lube
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

Brad_bb

Milled last night.  I just went back to jug valve wide open and using the ball valve under the engine.  It still puts out too much lube/cleaner and does not have the fine adjustment needed.  I'm going to look for a finer adjustment valve to replace the ball valve.  
Anything someone can design, I can sure figure out how to fix!
If I say it\\\\\\\'s going to take so long, multiply that by at least 3!

doc henderson

I stopped using the yellow cleaner as it would precipitate out and clog stuff up.  I switched to a solenoid valve just out of the tank, so it comes on when the blade clutch is engaged.  this allows the tube to mostly drain out.  My fine adjustment is a thumbscrew type valve so it can adjust over several rotations of the screw. I rarely change it unless sappy wood required much more flow.  mine is gravity as well   I use the cotton picker spindle fluid and dawn as well.  I like the blue color for seeing how full the tank is.   
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

booman

Brad, I have a small compressor at the sawmill and occasionally I blow the whole line out with all valves wide open.  Just gravity draining doesn't clear well enough.  I think maybe algae is building up inside the line.  I wonder if bleach would also work.  I also have two valves at the bottom and I set the one on the right for my flow rate and the one on the left for a quick on and off.  The valve at the jug is full open. 
2019 LT15G25WIDE, 2013 LT35HDG25, Stihl MS880 with 59" bar with Alaskan sawmill attachment.  John Deere 5045 tractor with forks, bucket and grapple.  Many chainsaws.

Ljohnsaw

I used what I had on hand. A hose bib for flow rate and a quarter turn gas shutoff valve to turn it on and off. Works great for me. My tank is about two feet above the blade with the valves midway.
John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

SkyTrak 9038
Ford 545D FEL
Genie S45
Davis Little Monster backhoe
Case 16+4 Trencher
Home Built 42" capacity/36" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

Thank You Sponsors!