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Fall colors and the lack there of.

Started by Jeff, October 11, 2005, 08:50:51 AM

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Jeff

This year we have very little color in the northern hardwoods around this area. The maples in our yard are starting to drop some leaves without turning thier usual brilliant oranges and reds and yellows.  Tammy mentioned to me that she wondered if it was some sort of sign of what kind of winter we are going to have. I answered that I thought it was more of an indicator of what we have had, rather then what we will get.
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OneWithWood

I agree with you, Jeff.  A lack of moisture throughout the summer has taken its toll on the trees.  Those storms that dump a months worth of rain in a couple of hours just do not have the same effect as a number of all day soakers.  I think we are in for a dull brown fall.  :(
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Roxie

The poison ivy has turned a stunning red!   :D :D
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Furby

Yup, all that dry weather has caused the leaves to turn brown and fall earlier then normal.

Roxie, I saw a golden yellow tree along the woods edge the other day, that had very few branches/leaves.
The inside was bright red from the poison ivy. It was stunning!
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Bro. Noble

The oaks havn't started to turn here yet.  The gums,  sumac,  and dogwoods are starting to turn red and the hickories yellow,  so maybe the oaks will be pretty.  Got the sweet taters dug so it's about that time of year :)
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maple flats

My land being rather close to the water table (only about 4 ft down I hit water in most places and not more than 6' on the whole 15 acres), has some real nice color on the edges and around the driveway into the sugarhouse and around any area that is more open. The trees in the denser areas have not turned and very few leaves have fallen yet. We have not had a frost yet which is really unusual. Might soon. The trees is other areas around do seem to be a little less colorful at this point. I do think it has to do with what we had and not what we're in store for. Now, look for the wooly bears, that is how you really know what will come this winter. The length of the three color bands tell from front to back, what each part of winter will be in duration. That's real science! 8) 8) ;D
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Jeff

Well, I am not sure of that is the cause. We have had rain in this area all year, right regular. Our grass never once turned brown and I had to mow all summer. First time ever in this area. Our plants and flowers were the best they had ever been due to the extra rain here. I think it may have to do with the extended warmth in the fall.  We have had years dryer then a popcorn fart and the leaves that year were magnificent.
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Corley5

Some of the trees around here are pretty good on others the leaves are drying and turning brown on the tree.  There's still a lot of green too.  I think it's got a lot to do with the warm fall.  It was 85 degrees just a few days ago :o
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OneWithWood

dunno, warm falls and long Indian summers are the norm here.  Maybe all your rain is acidic?  More than likely it is all those popcorn farts that chased the color away. :D
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sprucebunny

It's only a little less colorful than usual around here.


So ....  what is this caterpillar trying to tell us ???



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johnjbc

He's all dark your snow machine is gona get a work out this winter.
Saw some nice color on the way to the Paul Bunyan in Ohio. The best part was as we went over the Allegany's. Most of them have turned color but very few on the ground.
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Roxie

Well, how about those of y'all that are seeing color take some pictures for the rest of us that are so disappointed?   ::)
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Teri


I agree with Roxie...

I am so tired of looking at pine trees and palm trees its not even funny! They always stay green.  :(

I have to get back to the country! I miss the fall colors.

SwampDonkey

I've commented on this a couple of times on the forum. From what Jeff describes, we have been in the same situation over here. We also have had all kinds of rain. Every Dang time I was in the woods this summer it was either raining or the day after a soaker that felt like it was raining anyway. I don't no what happened to the aspen this year they usually stay green until a hard frost. I thought my trees were dying or sick. There couldn't be too much of a concern because I've not heard any bad reports. I know one thing the week before that hot dry spell last week the leaves where bright and during the hot spell they turned brown around here on the hardwoods. The white ash usually turn purple/red and this year they started turning kind of yellow and then brown.  :-\ It's just not a good fall foliage year.  :'(
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maple flats

That wolly says it will be a looooooong fall and will only snow on christmas eve,  hope he's right, I like fall best  8) 8) ;D
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Tom

I hope he's right too. 

It snowed here in 1989.  What a bummer.

Ron Wenrich

I always thought sugars had something to do with fall colors.  Real moist years would have an abundance of water and less sugars in the leaves.  Real dry years would retard the growth and development of the sugars.  

I have a ticket for a baloon ride and was hoping to do it some fall to take in the folage.  Don't know if this will be the fall.

They had a wooly bear festival outside of State College, PA just the other weak.  Colder than normal winter.  

Weatherman put this one out.  Dry September and a wet October always means a snowy winter.  We had 1/2" rain in September, and 8 1/2" this past weekend.  Glad I got a snowblower.
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Teri


WOW!!!!!   8) 8) 8)

Thankyou for posting that! 

I'm definately moving back to the country soon!  ;D ;D

Jeff

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Can I look too Joan?  :-\ ;)
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macpower

The grass is still growing and barely a touch of color here. Going to have to mow again if it dries out enough. Have not had a hint of frost yet, very unusual as the ground water is high and the swamps are full.
Roxie, was red the color of the Poison Ivy leaves or the color of the rash??
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SwampDonkey

The Virginia Creeper here is scarlet red, but since last weeks heat wave it's turned dull also.
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jayfed

We are having an extended, but colored-limited season.  Between the above average and drier summer warmth into October and the lack of below freezing nights, the season started early and will be lasting about two weeks longer.

Yellow birch on the drier sites were dropping all their leaves green three weeks ago. Even the the maple seedlings were wilting.  It seems the moister site trees were dropping early with lackluster leaves.  However, the majority of the maples and aspens are turning slower, but very nicely. Normally on the farm October 12-14th are the final leaf fall dates. Not this year with the larger trees just now turning. 

Great working weather with no bugs since early August.  Some tree frogs have reappeared.  Really getting spoiled up here on the Keweenaw Peninsula.  Now if the dang grass would stop growing...
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twistedtree

I'd say the trees are 2-4 weeks behind average.  In southern NH they are barely changing.  I've seen 1st/2nd week in September with the same color as now. 

OneWithWood

Ron, I believe you are correct about the causal nature of sugars.  When the chlorophyl dies the green gives way to the brighter yellows and reds which are indeed caused by sugar.  Isn't the decrease in chlorophyl triggered by the amount of sunlight (length of day)?  Or is there something else the chlorophyl reacts too?
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