What kind of pine tree is this?

[doc henderson]

I took some pics at my friend's house in Stillwater, OK.  fascicles with 3 leaflets.  










I told him we (you) would help us figure this out.  I should have got a pic of the cones on the ground.

[doc henderson]

English setter in the background.  

[Texas Ranger]

Best guess short leaf, in the range

[doc henderson]

update!  I ask for a pic of a cone.  he said these two grew together.



more examples





I think Leo got his nose in one pic.  

[Texas Ranger]

shortleaf

[doc henderson]

Thanks.

[caveman]

This may help some differentiate between shortleaf and loblolly pines.  WDH helped me and even left a shortleaf branch in a maple tree in the Perry, Ga Cracker Barrel restaurant parking lot one time.  He had left to go to the Outer Banks to catch redfish and I was taking a forestry team to a national contest in Kentucky or Indiana (I don't remember the year).  The little "mini craters" in the bark are a dead giveaway for the shortleaf.  

I miss getting schooled up by WDH on dendro, but I am thankful to have this amazing resource to look back on for information and to revisit posts from him and others.

January 15, 2020, 08:43:47 PM

Yes sir.  LobloLLy pine cones are about the size of your closed fist, maybe a bit bigger.  Shortleaf cones are much smaller, about the size of a lemon or half the size of your fist.  LobLLoly needles are 6" to 8" long, and are in bundles of three.  Shortleaf needles are 3" to 5" long and are in bundles of mostly two's, sometimes threes, and they can be mixed on the same branch.  Also, the bark of shortleaf pine has pitch pockets, lobLLoly bark does not.  Pitch pockets look like little mini-craters, like the ones on the moon.  They are small, about the diameter of a grain of rice.  Check out the pic of shortleaf bark in this link and you will see some of the distinctive little crater-like pitch pockets.
The reason that I suspected your tree in the pic was lobLLoly was that the needles looked a bit too long to be shortleaf, but, the crown was a long way away in the pic, and I could be mistaken.  Go look at the needles and see how long they are.  LobLLoly needles are always in threes's, never two's.  You will have mostly two's on shortleaf as well as some three's.  Cone size is a dead give-away as lobLLoly cones are three times the size of shortleaf cones.