more mill closings

[Peter Drouin]

They have them. Just get the ones for LVLs.  

Not available at any hardware store around here. Be special order as LVL use is used minimally here. Used as carrying beam wood in modern truss work in homes. I have 2 of them beams in the house. Not building an entire house with it.

Most lumber yards have them around here. I have seen houses with all LVL for floor joses.

[BAN]

Things are bad around here. IFG won't buy a private log. The prices from the other guys aren't worth taking. We've been on wildfires for couple months and all the loggers I've talked to are hoping to stretch out season because they have no logging to go back to. Someone has to survive but it's gonna get lean in the meantime. 

[barbender]

Not good.

[rdobb13]

Another bites the dust, pixelle in Chillicothe Ohio.  Been a pulp mill for 214 years, as of today they have 44 days till close.  

[rdobb13]

Well, an Ohio senator put the equity firm on blast so it's pushed out to the end of the calendar year. Hopefully another buyer will take over, gonna crush this area. 

[SwampDonkey]

Here they keep dropping their rates. I think the latest rate drop recently is 35%. That's because industrial rates supposedly have been higher than in any other province.  All residential has gone up and going up some more. Notice I have here is 9.7% increase. We are up to 14.76 cents/kwh now.

[ehp]

I worried for the few mills we have left here , things are not good for them and the future does not look great for quite a while . I hope I'm wrong and it turns around fast

[nativewolf]

Interesting news for us in VA, big hardwood mill cut off all loggers and is cleaning up all logs on yard.  Rumors are the largest companies on east coast are preparing to shutter 20 mills, one mill of 100k bdft is down to buying 4 trucks a day to keep a skeleton crew busy.  Nowhere to put lumber.  

This will roil markets, stave will find itself with no supply.  

[nativewolf]

I worried for the few mills we have left here , things are not good for them and the future does not look great for quite a while . I hope I'm wrong and it turns around fast

Has China cut Canada off?

[ehp]

Right here has not sold anything to China in a long time, but there have been a few from there now looking to buy veneer here, Only problem is not many guys trust dealing with them 

[ehp]

Land owners here need to understand standing timber price has gone down , Had another bush come this way today but at the price they think its worth it can stay standing 

[SwampDonkey]

Quote from: Peter Drouin on 19/09/2024, 06:08:53
Most lumber yards have them around here. I have seen houses with all LVL for floor joses.

Not here, 100% special order at that magnitude. Plus we have a truss plant here that supplies all the new construction going on.  You check the websites of those places, no LVL stocked at any, including Homedepot.ca

Wooden I-beam plant here went bust 25 years ago, needed decent black spruce 2 x 4 for the tops and bottoms. The vertical wood I think came from LP. Spruce sawmill was on the same site as I beam plant. She all went down. Had operated 25 years. Wood supply ran out locally and market down turn, had to pay too much for wood to get it into the mill. Wasn't sustainable as a second large sawmill near there also was closed and moved to Maine 10 years ago.