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Started by Gary_C, April 25, 2025, 11:34:21 AM

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Gary_C

Or perhaps this should be called "Government Insanity."

Experiments to 'dim the Sun' to be given green light by UK government

Isn't that a "cool" idea? They wish to replace "Warming" with "Cooling."   :huh?
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SwampDonkey

It seems kinda stupid in a country that hardly sees much sun. On average 126 days of sunshine. Here in New Brunswick, Canada we experience 290 sunny days.
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doc henderson

well, it is sunlight that takes CO2 and water and makes sugar including the fiber that makes the plant structure.  it is simplistic to think that one factor can change the weather much.  Of course, cows put out CO2 as that is what the food is made out of.  with more CO2, the plants can make more plant material and sugar for us to eat, less sun, it stays in the environment.  Greenhouse gasses drop to low; we all freeze to death.  with more CO2 and plenty of sunlight, the tree grows faster, and we build houses, and now the CO2 is sequestered for a hundred years.  If California would manage their forested areas like they should, it could reduce CO2.
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rusticretreater

UK should ask Canada.  Their fires worked real good in blotting out the sun.  UK should "paint it black".
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SwampDonkey

There have been a lot of northern Canada fires especially in 2023 that are in vast unmanaged areas. No roads to access. Those areas have the most accumulative area burned by fire. I don't recall losing any sun, I do recall smelling smoke if the wind was in the right direction, which can't be too healthy in itself. Here in New Brunswick we were below the 10 year average for fires in 2024. In 2023 we had a peek year because of the Stein Lake Fire near Saint Andrews. which was man caused, an ATV caught fire and set the woods ablaze. Most fires here in NB are man caused, well over 90%. 
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Gary_C

This notion of controlling sunlight is not only dangerous but head scratching as well. Consider photosynthesis where plants take CO2 and water using sunlight to produce sugars and oxygen. Why would anyone want to slow or stop that process as it removes CO2 from the atmosphere, produces oxygen and isn't excess CO2 the cause of global warming? 

This idea is mind-blowing stupid! Or perhaps this is population control. You know the old principal of "if you control the food supply you can control the population."

Yes, these are dangerous times. Who needs enemies when you have friendly but stupid governments. 
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Ron Wenrich

I really have to wonder about all the so called climate science.  The problem I see with current scientific thinking is that they think they can quantify everything.  My view is you can't quantify anything because there are too many variables.

Variables include solar intensity (it varies over an 11 yr cycle), waning electromagnetic shields (there's talk of a pole shift), seasonal variability in temperature and rainfall.  Then there's the unexpected events like volcanoes, solar ejections, and massive storms.  None of these can be pinned directly to CO2. 

Every year we get a new prediction that the arctic sea ice will be gone within the next 3-5 years.  Every year, a past prediction is proven wrong by Mother Nature.  And every year we give the experts more money to make another failed prediction.  The only thing they are good at is writing grants that give them money.

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jb616

Being in Michigan,  I always ask how the great lakes were formed...they say glaciers....then I ask what global warming emissions were present then...
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SwampDonkey

Where I live, there hasn't been a fire since 120 years ago. Not much is old and falling down unless it's along a brook edge. Been intensively managed for decades especially so from the 60's onward. The forest is fairly young. And the local old timers knew not to have woods growing up around their houses and farm buildings to increase fire risks.
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Stephen1

I call it government insanity!
Please do not fool with Mother Nature.
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TreefarmerNN

Quote from: doc henderson on April 26, 2025, 05:04:42 PMwell, it is sunlight that takes CO2 and water and makes sugar including the fiber that makes the plant structure.  it is simplistic to think that one factor can change the weather much.  Of course, cows put out CO2 as that is what the food is made out of.  with more CO2, the plants can make more plant material and sugar for us to eat, less sun, it stays in the environment.  Greenhouse gasses drop to low; we all freeze to death.  with more CO2 and plenty of sunlight, the tree grows faster, and we build houses, and now the CO2 is sequestered for a hundred years.  If California would manage their forested areas like they should, it could reduce CO2.
Last year's wildfires put more CO2 in the air than California has "saved" in the last 15 years. 

rusticretreater

I win these arguments by looking up historical data.  I show it to the victim.  They go "See?  Hottest year/month ever!"

And I go, "Oh look, it broke the record from 1850!".  The smug victim goes "Yep, and its only going to get worse."

My reply is "I wonder what passed for global warming back then?  You know, they had to measure temps with a mercury thermometer.  What if they were off a degree or so?"  

You can see the cognitive dissonance descend upon them.  Works every time.
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doc henderson

yes, how many homes could be heated in the winter, if they harvested the trees that were down or needed to be.  they are so against woodstoves, that you prob. could not even get one installed.  the wood burned anyway, they could have at least got some good from it and not lost homes and lives.  It would have saved natural gas or electricity from being used for heat.
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beenthere

Just as recent as the 1960's, the fear mongers were in a panic about the glaciers moving down from the poles. The ice age is coming !!

In only a few years, the global warming was upon us and the glaciers were melting and the ocean shores would be encroaching and flooding our land. 
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hardtailjohn

I live not too far from "Glacier Park".  Years ago, they had signs up all over the park, claiming that the "glaciers are melting and will be gone by the year 2020".  Of course that year came along and there's still glaciers there, and the signs quietly disappeared, but they're still screaming about them melting..... as if that's not how the park was formed, and as I always say, that's a glacier's job...to MELT!!!
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SwampDonkey

Certainly the 70's was full of 'pretend' science shows such as 'In Search Of' with Leonard Nimoy hosting which had lots of nonsense to see. Even David Suzuki, a well known Canadian scientist, was preaching global cooling in the 70's. At one time I could pull up the video on Youtube. But I do have the full video series of 'In Search Of', so they can't hide that. All it took was 2 or 3 successive cold winters with deep snow at cherry picked locations to make it convincing. It was interesting that 2008 was one of the coldest snowiest winters on record in this region. It's never mentioned. I can also remember the mildest winter here in 1980. When trees leaf out in Feb up here it's pretty mild. I've never seen that happen since. Just a decade ago DNR in NB was blaming severe winters on deer decline, it's in news articles, until they disappear it.
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