Hack and Squirt for pines

rasawing · July 07, 2025, 06:25:51 PM

I am looking to kill some mature pines via hack and squirt. What chemical should I use? I've thought about using Tordon RTU.....but I've heard it is not that effective for pine. Thanks in advance.

Stephen1 · July 09, 2025, 07:43:43 AM

Mature seedlings or pine? wouldn't you just drop mature pine and saw them into lumber?

rasawing · July 09, 2025, 03:03:16 PM

Mature pines. (On average around 18" in diameter.) I want to kill them in place because I will not process them into [whatever] until winter time. (And I don't want to be handling wet pine then.) I would cut them off (as suggested) but my property is heavily infested with yellow jackets and hornets. Many a time I have cut trees in the warm months and found out I had a (unwelcome) surprise in them.

So given that background, I'd appreciate if any further replies please focus on the question in the OP.

Texas Ranger · July 09, 2025, 03:26:18 PM

Band them waist high with a saw.

rasawing · July 09, 2025, 03:42:11 PM

Quote from: Texas Ranger on July 09, 2025, 03:26:18 PMBand them waist high with a saw.

That won't work (assuming I understand what you mean by that). You never know where the hole is. It could be 35 feet off the ground.

So please people, no more replies that don't name a herbicide.

thecfarm · July 09, 2025, 05:31:53 PM

Everyone is just trying to help.
By the way I name the herbicide Herb.

Texas Ranger · July 09, 2025, 05:34:03 PM

I'll simplify my comment; Cutting the cambium around the tree will kill the tree with no herbicide. Can be done with a small chain saw.

Texas Ranger · July 09, 2025, 05:36:36 PM

By the way, I am a senior forester with years behind me on killing trees. Question me.

rasawing · July 09, 2025, 05:44:50 PM

Quote from: Texas Ranger on July 09, 2025, 05:34:03 PMI'll simplify my comment; Cutting the cambium around the tree will kill the tree with no herbicide. Can be done with a small chain saw.

That's great.....but that's exactly what I am trying to avoid. I don't want to be cutting on these things this time of year.

Again I ask: if someone doesn't want to name a herbicide....please don't post.

red · July 09, 2025, 06:24:19 PM

I don't want to name a herbicide . . I just wanted to post anything because that's the way it works on forestry forum

g_man · July 09, 2025, 07:01:03 PM

So how do you "hack" w/o cutting ??

gg

rasawing · July 09, 2025, 07:21:41 PM

Quote from: g_man on July 09, 2025, 07:01:03 PMSo how do you "hack" w/o cutting ??

gg

Basically (with the techniques I have typically used) we are talking just one or two whacks with a axe/hatchet. Nothing like the girdling/banding technique mentioned above that is going to mean a good deal of time cutting and introduce a great deal of vibration into the tree.

But I have typically used Crossbow for this in the past, but it's effect on pines (in this application) wasn't the best. As I noted in my OP, I have thought about Tordon RTU....but I have no experience with it....and have heard it isn't the best for pine. (Among other negative things.)

So.....to circle back around (for about the 4th time): I'd appreciate only a herbicide recommendation. Anything else: save it.

Jeff · July 09, 2025, 09:25:30 PM

Quote from: rasawing on July 09, 2025, 05:44:50 PMAgain I ask: if someone doesn't want to name a herbicide....please don't ppost

And you can kiss my ass and get the hell off my website you POS if you tell our members what they can and cant post one more time, in fact I'm removing you ya dickhead.

LeftFinger · July 10, 2025, 12:08:23 AM

Andries · July 10, 2025, 09:36:54 AM

Irritating guy.
Is that a new record; three posts and gone?

The comment from thecfarm: " By the way I name the herbicide Herb."
Made my day.

LeftFinger · July 10, 2025, 10:10:15 AM

Hack and Squirt sounded like some kind of flu variant

Texas Ranger · July 10, 2025, 02:14:07 PM

In his wisdom only "one or two whacks" is necessary for control on a 18-inch dbh pine, Humm, we did a whack with a hypo Hatchet for every one-inch radius. But this is Texas, maybe he has a larger hatchet/ax. But I doubt it.

Magicman · July 10, 2025, 02:18:19 PM

Quote from: Andries on July 10, 2025, 09:36:54 AMIs that a new record; three posts and gone?

No, he had 106 posts and had been here since Nov 30, 2015. Certainly experienced enough to know that topic drift is the normal here. Topics tend to drift along, go to food, and then find their way back to the original subject. I have gleaned much from the drift, sometime more than the original subject.

He actually may have set a record with the number of times (4) directing the responders to stay on "his" subject, and even doing so with bold letters.

I would expect a spanking.

thecfarm · July 10, 2025, 05:42:57 PM

Jeff did give him a spanking!!!!

GRANITEstateMP · July 10, 2025, 07:14:17 PM

I don't like hornets either, they tend to wreck my day. I like working from a TIGHT, enclosed cab. Maybe a tree shear on a tracked skid. The shear done hacks the tree and bees right off the stump! The inevitable hydraulic leak can be the "squirt"!

And, in honor of Magicman's comment, I had a couple slices of pizza for dinner, they were ok, but I'm really craving either an ice cream or a shake.

If O got a shake, I could put that in the cupholder of the skid while hackin' dem trees down! (see, I got back on topic!)