Woodchip hauling

[Janel]

:P
Would like some information on how most woodchips are hauled...mainly from sawmill to paper mill..not long transport.
Thank you
Janel

[Jeff]

Usually in a semi box van, blown in from the back. The vans will have screened windows in the front for vents so they don't collapse when being dumped from the chips sucking the air out. Dumping is done by hydraulic hoist. Most dumps now days lift tractor and trailer. Chips can also be loaded in open top vans via conveyor or front end loader but that is rare, at least around here.

[Janel]

Hi Jeff
I believe you met my boss at the Logging Conference.....
Company called Aeroswint...we manufacture the SideChuter trailer...for months now I have been trying to learning this forestry business...I think this trailer for sawmills...it hauls woodchips and unloads incredibly fast...I had been to your forum before....reading.
He is taking the trailer to the St Louis show...so I just wanted some ideas of what most haulers use...what they need ..etc.
Thank you
Janel

[Jeff]

Yep. I remember. I watched the video. Pretty awsome display of unloading.  This might be a good place for your boss to show the forestry world. If he's interested let me know and we will work something out to do just that.

I'll be in St. Louis and would like to get a look at the real thing. Where I can see a real value up here is bark haulers that haul to a central yard or deliver at jobs. Most use walking floor systems. Lots of moving parts and stuff to freeze up in the cold north.
 Most of the large pulp and paper mills are set up with dumps and I am not sure what they would think of the side unloading. I do however serve on a board with the procurement guys from mead, Georgia pacific, Weyerhaeuser, Louisiana pacific, smurfit and so on, so I guess I could ask em. ;D

[Janel]

I agree with you..I believe this would be a good place to introduce it to the forestry would...so yes....very interesting in your help to just do that.

The walkin floors are what got me sparked my idea that we should venture to forestry...greatest complaint on those are the maintence and break down..
I have done research on georgia pac..and Lousianna pac..the others you mention I dont reconize..

If you are definately going to St Louis please let me know.
I am at home right now..and my file to that show is at the office..but I am sure they allow demo's..if you will be there..I will see if I can set up actual unload demo.

but as I said early..yes very interested in your help.

Thank you again

[Jeff]

To give these guys an idea what we are talking about...

Aeroswint Sideshooter video link<<LINK<<

[Janel]

http://www.aeroswint.com  (scroll just a tad..and click on sidechuter video download)

I dont have the video clip of the SideChuter dumping sawchips up on site yet...will soon.

How do I add a picture to my profile...will put pic of SideChuter and sawchips  if I knew how. ( the pic on website doesnt really show that this is dumping out of both sides at the same time.)

[Jeff]

click on profile button and look for the place to add own pic. Picture should be no more then 100 pixles wide. preferably less for the user pic.

By the way thats a link right to the video I left. ;D

[Janel]

attemptin the pic
bare with me ;)

[Janel]

ok am clueless........tomorrow when you call......you step me though the pic .........I do look forward to talking to you.........
and Thank you again so much
PS you have an amazin site]

J

[Ron Wenrich]

Semi box trailers are pretty standard in these parts for woodchips.  However, we do use walking floor trailers for firewood (cut & split), bark, and sawdust.   All our sawdust goes to farmers and horse owners.  

[woodhaven]

Ron,
I have been looking for something to do with my dust. Do horse owners use a lot?

[Ron Wenrich]

It depends how many horses they have.  We sell a lot to chicken farmers, but we usually manage a couple loads a month to a riding stable that has weekly shows.  They pay top dollar - more than chips.  Absolutely no walnut in horse dust.

We blow everything from the saw into a walking floor trailer.  But, we produce at least a pickup load that misses the trough and at the firewood processor.  We let locals come in and clean it up for free - saves us the hassle.

From about December until April we almost have fist fights over who gets the dust.  Seems that a guy with a couple of horses will go through a pickup truck load a week.

It also looks like you can use a dust drag. :D  I put one in using old cornpicker chain and a hydraulic motor.  I took it out to a pole and let it mound up.  I've also seen the same arrangement to a building.  

[woodhaven]

Yea really,
That pic was from an previous post where I had forgotten to turn on the blower. What I want to do is build some kind of container to blow into and a easy way to scoop it out. I now just blow it in the woods but it is starting to look bad. I got to come with something.
What if I built just a big box with doors. I guess I would put screen on top. You think this would work?

[Den Socling]

Jeff,

I always assumed that the vents let the air from the material transfer fan out the front to drop the chips instead of having them blow out the back. I never thought about imploding the trailor while dumping but I can see where that could be a possibility.

Den

[Percy]

Hey Janel.
Very slick trailers. Up here in B.C. they use super B trailers for chip hauling. These trailers are very expensive as to dump them, they have a skirt system that lets the front trailer's chips slide thru the back trailer while its on the tipper hoist.(the truck has to disconect from the trailers every trip..pain the keeester). If your system is available as a super B, you should advertise up here in B.C. as all you would need for an effective chip dump is a paved yard and a frontend loader with a biggass bucket. I think you could sell hoards of them up here. Lots of pulp mills up here.

[Jeff]

Jeff,

I always assumed that the vents let the air from the material transfer fan out the front to drop the chips instead of having them blow out the back. I never thought about imploding the trailor while dumping but I can see where that could be a possibility.

Den

Yes blowing in is part of the venting also, but just so you can really get the truck real full. think about it, after about a third full the vents are covered anyways. The real reason is implosion. You have 30 ton of chips come out in 4 or 5 seconds and you get quite a vacuum. It happens up here reglar in the winter to guys that dont clean the screens in the winter when fines and moisture sometimes freeze them over. I've seen a couple. They look pretty neat. :D

[Janel]

Percy
Hello.
I had to ask what a SuperB was ..and come to find out that is an idea a customer was telling me about on Monday.I know if it is possible to do we will. (The minds are turning already working on it) He was talking about both trailers unloading at the same time not disconecting from truck.
I have read a lil something about the skirt trailer,but more on walking floors..and the bagger trailers.
Thank you for your comments.
Will let you know about the SuperB concept.
Janel