loggers license

logman81 · March 03, 2011, 12:58:32 PM

I'm looking for info on how and where to get my wood cutters license. What are the requirements? I have the opportunity to work with one of the RI state foresters and want to make sure I have all the rite license's to do so.

Jeff · March 03, 2011, 01:08:44 PM

We have no such requirement for Michigan as a logger's license, But many places require you to carry workman's comp insurance in order to buy logs you produce.

SwampDonkey · March 03, 2011, 02:34:45 PM

Workman's Comp, Liability of $2M, First Aid, WHIMIS, possibly Certified Logging Professional certificate, and possibly a Mechanized Forest Operations certificate (12 week course) at a CC may be asked for when working on public land and some mill owned forest land (Industrial Freehold) here in NB. Varies across the continent.

If you look up "Certified Logging Professional" in Google it will probably pull up the Maine site at the top of the list. clploggers.com

We have done logger training at Marketing Board offices, but I think since the down turn in the industry that has been on hold. We never got too many loggers in our local office, it wasn't a requirement to do business on woodlots. Mostly small volume cutters 100-300 cords once in awhile. Workers Comp are pushing hard for first aid though. Need one first aider for every 3 employees, most will train the majority of the work crew because there is always someone who won't show up for work and you don't want it to be the first aider.

Tom · March 03, 2011, 02:42:31 PM

There's that "certified" word again.

Woodwalker · March 03, 2011, 05:14:07 PM

Quote from: Tom on March 03, 2011, 02:42:31 PM
There's that "certified" word again.

I wonder how the first one was certifed?

SwampDonkey · March 03, 2011, 06:21:03 PM

You can see why some people are competing on costs. Much of the training is to justify the pay scale and so people can be retained and work in a safe environment (cab of a machine). On woodlots we had a corporation who is a woodlot owner but into farming and food processing. They had their feet held to the fire when a contractor operating on their woodlots had a man killed under a circumstances the WCB deemed unsafe. Since the corporation is a multibillion $ company they came down hard on them and part of their fine was to provide training money for a specified duration and cost. The guy that got killed was working for a logging contractor who was mostly a farmer by trade as I recall. He was also fined as being the employer, but the corporation was sued. The guy was a green feller, he cut his leg and bleed to death. He had never taken training for the safe operating of a saw. For that matter, most loggers on woodlots and farmers have never taken a bit of logging safety training what so ever.

a old timberjack · March 03, 2011, 10:39:34 PM

logman, rhode island requires a " wood producers liscense" that is what it is called. it is 25.00 a year. renewals are june 1st. you can get one from the r.i div. of forestry in arcadia in exeter, or the glocester office. no studying or test required. now conn. or mass, that is a whole nother topic. very simple. no special test for our wonderful broke state.

a old timberjack · March 03, 2011, 10:49:04 PM

log man, wich forester do you work with ? paul or tom??? i work with tom. very very nice guy. he is always willing to work with you. he knows how the other side of the fence works.

logman81 · March 04, 2011, 06:56:19 AM

Thanks a bunch a old timberjack that is what I was looking for. You wouldn't happen to have a address for the one in exeter would you? I try and find it today and go and get the license. I have not yet worked with the forester but his name is Marc trembly.

Ironwood · March 04, 2011, 07:00:47 AM

I am with Tom on this one, what is next? Do you have a,...... permit, tracking#, license, blah blah blah. Argh

Ironwood

logman81 · March 04, 2011, 07:04:17 AM

It can be a struggle in some states but RI is very easy to get what is required and they don't require much.

Meadows Miller · March 04, 2011, 07:26:28 AM

Gday

Overhere they are called Forest Operators Licenses (FOL's) for short You need them in gov't owned forests but not in Private plantation or native forest I was going to get one but at a cost of $4500 coupled with the fact that we had 55% of our local forest made into a bloody national park about the same time I though bugger it and did not bother getting one I had been falling since I was 13 w/o one as the age to get one was 18yo the local foresters didn't bother with enforcing it anyway with Me as they just said you know what your doing Chris

;D ;D 8)

A funny story when they first brought it into law that you had to have one in the mid 80s Dad went and organized for the trainers to just come out and do it on site as he had upto 15 blokes falling for him at peak production in both hardwood post operations and pine thinning and clearfell ;) The trainer got the and asked who trained you to the Boys and they Said Joe Did to that he just turned to Dad n said well I reckon you could teach me a thing or two (as He was already recognized as one of the Best Manual Fallers in the State ) and just said fill out the forms and we will give you all your FOL'S

Im Very Proud of My Old Man

;) ;D ;D 8) 8)

Regards Chris

JHBC · March 04, 2011, 07:29:05 PM

Out here, there are big differences, depending on who owns the land. liability insurance, comp coverage is a must no matter where. For arguments sake though, a certified faller does have to go through a thirty day program, and that is followed by, what is essentially an apprenticeship for the next six months. Any contractor would require this, as well as any work done on gov't lands through woodlots etc.
It is a professional trade, and like any trade, employers want the most qualified workers, not just the most experienced.

a old timberjack · March 05, 2011, 06:52:42 AM

Quote from: logman81 on March 04, 2011, 06:56:19 AM
Thanks a bunch a old timberjack that is what I was looking for. You wouldn't happen to have a address for the one in exeter would you? I try and find it today and go and get the license. I have not yet worked with the forester but his name is Marc trembly.

marc is a very good guy to work with. he is a private forester, and the director of the r.i. tree farm association. tom abbot is the state forester, that is who you have to deal with wen you get a intent to cut permit. the # for r.i. forestry headquaters is 401-647-3367 tell them you want to obtain a r.i. wood producers lisc. very easy

logman81 · March 05, 2011, 10:10:08 AM

Thanks a old timber jack I thought Marc was a private forester but wasn't sure. The land owner that I'm cutting for now is using his services and he also said he is a good guy. I will give the forestry head quarters a call today. Thanks again and I like your skidder what model is it? I'm thinking about upgrading from my tractor and getting a small skidder or build my own forwarding trailer for tractor, That is if I get more steady work working with the forester. I'll probably just go ahead and build the trailer I could always tow it with a skidder and have a forwarder.

a old timberjack · March 06, 2011, 09:59:19 AM

Quote from: logman81 on March 05, 2011, 10:10:08 AM
Thanks a old timber jack I thought Marc was a private forester but wasn't sure. The land owner that I'm cutting for now is using his services and he also said he is a good guy. I will give the forestry head quarters a call today. Thanks again and I like your skidder what model is it? I'm thinking about upgrading from my tractor and getting a small skidder or build my own forwarding trailer for tractor, That is if I get more steady work working with the forester. I'll probably just go ahead and build the trailer I could always tow it with a skidder and have a forwarder.

no problem, my skidder is a mid 70's 225 timberjack, just like i say, " its A OLD TIMBERJACK " ha! ha!

logman81 · March 06, 2011, 12:44:13 PM

It's not that old, old timberjack I know a guy in ashaway that has a timberjack 205 and it is in the sixties. I would like to find myself an older smaller one some day. Hows the logging up in your part of the state?

captain_crunch · March 06, 2011, 01:56:03 PM

I will have to get in on the old TJ list I got an old 404 ;D ;D

a old timberjack · March 06, 2011, 07:27:28 PM

mud, mud, n more mud. just finished up last week n brought the old girl home. i have a little more trucking to finish up then gonna rip my log truck apart for some tlc. no clue were i am going next, got some pine to cut but you cannot even give it away.

logman81 · March 06, 2011, 08:54:50 PM

I hear you on that the job I'm working on now is a total swamp, tough on my tractor really need to get a bigger machine. The pine is hard to get rid of. What I do with the pine is bring it back to my place and burn it in the out door wood furnace if it is junk. We burn about twenty cords a year through it. If the logs are worth milling I have a guy with a wood mizer saw it up for me, then I sell the lumber.

a old timberjack · March 06, 2011, 09:40:46 PM

Quote from: logman81 on March 06, 2011, 08:54:50 PM
I hear you on that the job I'm working on now is a total swamp, tough on my tractor really need to get a bigger machine. The pine is hard to get rid of. What I do with the pine is bring it back to my place and burn it in the out door wood furnace if it is junk. We burn about twenty cords a year through it. If the logs are worth milling I have a guy with a wood mizer saw it up for me, then I sell the lumber.

like you know, we are so far from a decent pine market, even tho i have my own truck, i cant haul that far and by the time you pay to haul it to a mill up north, you have barely enuff to pay your stumpage. my buisiness is 95% hardwood

logman81 · March 06, 2011, 09:54:49 PM

What do you do with your hardwood?

a old timberjack · March 07, 2011, 08:17:07 PM

rossi corp ( scotland hardwoods ) scotland ct, and hull forest products in pomfret ct.. the beauty of rossi, is they come to you and they pay you right in the landing on site b-4 the truck leaves, check in hand.