bunk spacing from ramey loader on log truck

[iceberg210]

Putting my grandpa's old ramey log loader on an international s series wondering what the best practices were for bunk spacing.  Going to have one over the single axle then a tag trailer but want to make sure I have enough room on the frame. Also if anyone has a manual I'd love to get a copy I know we had one at some point but don't know where it went
Thanks

[moodnacreek]

Front mount or rear mount loader and how much frame rail to work with? It sound like 4 bunks equally spaced to me.

[thecfarm]

Welcome to the forum.
Ramey loader, I had to do a search on that. I forgot there was a few threads about it.

[iceberg210]

Front mount or rear mount loader and how much frame rail to work with? It sound like 4 bunks equally spaced to me.

Front mount,  going to do just one bunk over the single axle with a tag trailer.  I'm hunting millable logs so they'll tend to be longer and fewer

Mainly looking to know what's best practice on distance from loader for first bunk,  4' is what's on the old one

[moodnacreek]

If the shortest logs to be hauled are 8' the stakes would be 7' apart and if only 2 they would be centered between the loader and the end of frame [but could be farther back]. Every log should hit 2 stakes so you can not double [end to end] anything for the most part. You don't say how much frame is there  or the boom length.

[iceberg210]

If the shortest logs to be hauled are 8' the stakes would be 7' apart and if only 2 they would be centered between the loader and the end of frame [but could be farther back]. Every log should hit 2 stakes so you can not double [end to end] anything for the most part. You don't say how much frame is there  or the boom length.

Think i might not  have explained quite right. I'll be doing a truck like this (couldn't find a better picture than a model) with a loader on it between the cab and first bunk and with only one bunk over the axle on the trailer
So it's more about the spacing from the bunk which will be right over the single axle to the loader pedestle.

[iceberg210]

Found some better pictures of what I'm trying to do. Hope this better shows the idea.

 

 

[mudfarmer]

you will need one of the west coasters like @Skeans1 or @quilbilly for advice on that type of setup I think

[quilbilly]

Not me, that's pretty old and I'm not a trucker. Skeans would be a better source. We do have front mount loaders though. Never seen a rear mount out here.

[iceberg210]

Not me, that's pretty old and I'm not a trucker. Skeans would be a better source. We do have front mount loaders though. Never seen a rear mount out here.

The only time I've seen a rear mounted loader out west was on trucks that had no bunks and were just portable loaders, not selfloaders.
I for the longest time didn't know they did it any other way! but then again this is the loader I was raised with.

 


 
Same loader that I'm going to move the the new truck (old Dodge is worn out plus a gas)
Once I get it done have to recreate the picture with my daughter me thinks

[Skeans1]

I've seen a few rear mounts out here before on mule trains. As far as spacing go I have no idea with a self loader the biggest thing is your axle weights if it's going on the road. The self loader I've been around were all 6 axle truck and trailers with the bunk just in front of or slightly behind the rear most driver. As far as the pintle that they use that's a whole different ball game all together same with the stinger that folds over.

[moodnacreek]

Sounds like the loader is going on a tractor and that is above my pay scale. I am in N.Y. and we have straight trucks and sometimes pup trailers. Tractor trailer log trucks here use center mount on trailer. What you are showing is western style to me although i have seen that style delivering telephone poles.

[Nealm66]

I had a 72 t800 kenworth short logger with a prentice loader. I got a few tickets for being heavy on the rears ( no scales. Not sure what your front end is rated for but guessing your rears are 20k? Anyways, you can snug the logs right up to your loader so just need to be a couple feet behind it. I just had two bunks on the frame I think they were 12' apart. I had an 8'x18' underground cylinder gas tank ripped in half I'd set down inside the bunks to haul whatever. Definitely a good idea to throw a wrapper over the loader arm when loaded as just grappling a log won't hold up very long to a bumpy highway. I'm guessing you're going to want everything as forward as possible to keep from overloading that first axle. 

[Nealm66]

I would only install the 2 bunks for ease of loading heavy. Basically one end at a time. 

[iceberg210]

I would only install the 2 bunks for ease of loading heavy. Basically one end at a time.

The plan is to have one bunk on the truck and the other one is this trailer (once I get it fixed up obviously) so the length between the two bunks will vary, with an adjustable tongue, it's more what i need to leave so the logs dont' mess up the loader, and i have room to operate.

 

[Skeans1]

@iceberg210 
Does that bunk have a turn table? How about the front bunk? If not you will bend the reach between the truck and trailer or the compensator or both.

[Nealm66]

That's an excellent point. I'm not sure how that loader would work with a trailer. You wouldn't be able to have it attached to the trailer or logs. The ones around here with a trailer buckle over the cab

 

[iceberg210]

The Ramey can definitely fold back over (the one time I saw another Ramey in person it was this one, having said that that'd take aton of frame space, that'd I'd have to figure out.



 

[iceberg210]

That's an excellent point. I'm not sure how that loader would work with a trailer. You wouldn't be able to have it attached to the trailer or logs. The ones around here with a trailer buckle over the cab

I guess this is the other option, does anyone have thoughts on over the cab or between the cab and loader?
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