Did something dumb today.

[Don P]

I had always assumed it was my job to do the first dent, chivalry and all.
What horsemanship has to do with wrecks or throwing ones coat in a mudpuddle for ladies to stomp on is beyond me though, so I could be mixed up.

[Magicman]

You guys seem to be confusing me with an aforementioned unnamed person.   :D

[Old Greenhorn]

One thing to remember when you buy tools and guns.  The ladies might not know the difference but they can count.

Same way we are with ladies' shoes.  :

Aw, I am shocked to see you guys appear to be amateur's at this stuff and never figured it out. Back when I was in my 20's and newly married I had 3 buddies I would shoot with frequently and go to gun shows with. We had a pact wherein if (when) one of us bought a new gun and we brought it home openly, the wife would ask about it and we would say "Oh, that's a gun that Bob bought, but he asked me to take it and do a little work on it for him." Time would pass and it would be forgotten. Bob would blame his new gun on me, etc. around the circle. If any of the wives asked us, we would back the other guy up. "OH, sure, I hope he gets the work done on it soon, I'd like to try it out." or something like that. One guy bought so many guns that he was blaming a few on each of us. Fortunately the wives didn't get together a lot unless we were around. :D
 I always thought it funny that us guys were not permitted to complain about new shoes, purses, dresses, or any of that stuff. Oh sure, they could bring home all that stuff and we had to tell them how nice it looked. But bring home one little gun that barely cost a month's wages and they go through the roof. :D :D ;D

[WV Sawmiller]

   My son had watched a Parker double barrel in a local pawn/gun shop he frequented. He told the owner who was a friend of his "That old Parker double has been in her a good while. Would you take $500 cash for it?" The guy studied a while and said "Yeah. I really need to move it." My son bought it The tag said it was a 10 gauge but he got to checking and loaded a shell in it and found it was a 10 gauge which were a lot more rare. He took it to a Cabela's dealer in Charleston WV 2 days later and sold it for $3500 and used the profit to pay for their Disney vacation that year. After that his wife did not complain about his gun trading.

[bigblockyeti]

And whatever you do, add a backup camera to the Rav4. Once you have one, you'll never want to drive a vehicle without it.

I always found them kind of gimmicky, I will say they are very good at reducing actual backing skill from the vast majority of all driving population (not that there was much to begin with).  This ranks right up there with lane departure assistance, pre-collision braking & sonar cruise control.  The folks that rely on these things to drive safely aren't safe drivers.

[KenMac]

You guys seem to be confusing me with an aforementioned unnamed person.   :D

I think a few chickens and a goat would make a good peace offering. The truth shall find you out! :(

[barbender]

 It is never good when you get a PM notification that Southside has tagged you in, "did something dumb today"😂 I intentionally never even visit this thread because I'm afraid I'll have to many things to post about and folks will get weary of it😁

 Magic, I don't really have any advice for the unnamed person that backed into the Rav4. I prefer to back into stuff while the owner is present, it keeps everything on the up and up😊

[Peter Drouin]

I have always used my side mirrors, never a problem.
Ann and I would always tell one another what we needed or wanted first.
Then when done talking, go with what we decided. 
I remember one day, here car was kinder old. She wanted a new one, After talking some about how much $$ we had. I filled her purse with $$.
Go get one, I said, the smile on here face was all worth it. 
We never lied to each other, ever.
I miss her so much.

[K-Guy]

add a backup camera to the Rav4. Once you have one, you'll never want to drive a vehicle without it.

My wife's car has one and I hate it. I'd rather have bigger flat mirrors so I can judge the distance. Also the alarm starts beeping when I am still 2-3 ft from where I want to stop.

[Resonator]

We all have our opinions. ;D
I regard it as a safety feature, if it prevents an accident, I think it's worth it. And yes, I know you can drive without using one. I put 1 million miles on the road as a professional truck driver, not ONE of the trucks I drove had a backup camera. You'd adjust your mirrors, and G-O-A-L (get out and look) before you backed up. 

[doc henderson]

I am glad my wife and kids have that for them.  It can be handy, even for those of us that went through Dad driver ed.  

[aigheadish]

It feels like they are building more blind spots into cars, what with all the side airbags and junk. I'm a fan of my backup camera even though I learned and survived without one. My car also has a camera built into the passenger side mirror because that entire side is almost all blind spot. I think it's a good thing to have as just an extra set of eyes.

[dougtrr2]

What does a cut list for a doghouse look like?  Shouldn't take too long to knock out. :D

Doug in SW IA

[GAB]

What does a cut list for a doghouse look like?  Shouldn't take too long to knock out. :D

Doug in SW IA

How big of a dog you got in mind?
GAB

[wisconsitom]

@aigheadish, agree on the blindspots.  Wife's 2017 Highlander's got a big fat front corner post and that along with a big fat mirror mount in the same place, I can hardly see where I am making a right turn.

Plus, I learned how to drive where I do all the rear and side checking, etc. so to also be checking a screen plus listening to various bells and whistles just adds distractions for me.  I enjoy driving my '02 4runner!  It's primitive, like me.

[firefighter ontheside]

Honestly I don't know if I have airbags in my B post, but it is big and does block my view of trying to look over my left shoulder to see if there is someone in the blind spot.  I am now just used to having my convex mirror pointed such that it shows my blind spot.  Also I am accustomed to leaning forward and looking in the regular mirror to check the blind spot.  That's a habit learned from years of driving firetrucks, which I rarely do anymore.  I think those of us who grew up without cameras and learned to use their mirrors are the best ones for having cameras, because we use it as a tool, but not the only tool.  I'm trying to teach my son to use both.

[wisconsitom]

I find the straight on view blocked a bit.  Side mirrors ok.

I seldom drive it-that's the biggest factor.

[Old Greenhorn]

I've been following this with humorous interest. I know some of y'all will look at me askance hitherto from this point, others of you will think me less as a man, and still others will wonder if I am just turning feeble, but I am thinking of putting a back up camera on my Mule. :D OK, done laughing at me? It's not that I need help backing up, it's just that lining that thing up, with the short turning radius, to a loaded trailer I can't move by hand for the last inch or two is rough. I would have it pointed right at the ball and save me a LOT of getting in and out and re-adjusting. I've thought about it on the truck for the same reason. Of course, on the truck it would be nice to check it and see that while backing into a parking spot my pintle hitch may have bumped the tesla parked just behind so I would know what that thump was.  ;D ;D There are other handuy reasons for those things.

 Bill there used to be a book we carried in the rescue which I think became a phone ap where you could look up every vehicle made and get the airbag count and locations in each one. It also gave the wire color codes and routing on electric and hybrids as well as other hazards. Might wanna check out your vehicles.

[WV Sawmiller]

   Take steps to save steps according to YH. Sounds like that is what you are doing.

[doc henderson]

My programmer for my HD3500 came with a tag frame camera.  I made another one to go by the cab back stop light.  I can see the bed for gooseneck and cargo monitoring, and flip a switch to see across a car trailer, or back up to a bumper pull and line it up for hitching.

[Otis1]

2018 F150 basic model, no sensors. I find the back up camera most handy for hooking up a trailer. It sure beats getting out a couple times to line up or judge distance, mine can zoom in when I get close to the trailer. I like the convex mirrors in the corners of the side mirrors, helps a lot with blind spots. 

My wife's CRV has some sensors and even slows down cruise control if you get to close behind another car. And has a little light in the side mirror if someone is in the blind spot. I do not like all the new beeps and warnings. 

[Southside]

Had to move an employees Jeep something or other a couple weeks ago. When you turn the steering wheel the backup camera moves the lines and completely distorted what I needed to see, so I did what any redneck would do, opened the drivers door to look behind me. Turns out those have an ejection seat feature in them now that SLAMS on the parking brake after you are moving. Said ejection seat was almost successful, in the name of safety of course. I could not figure out what I had run over. Even got out and walked all around the vehicle. Eventually I noticed the little parking brake light was on and got it moved, but yeah, some technology isn't always helpful. 

[Magicman]

A backup camera is useless unless you look at the monitor when backing up.  At least that is what a friend told me.  ;D

[Don P]

I need one on the fork tips. Right into a sweet 8/4 walnut board loading the kiln  :-\

[aigheadish]

Man, for real about not being able to see around the A pillars when taking turns. I've had 2 Honda Civics, the first a 1996 had a giant greenhouse of a set of windows and you could see great out of it, then I had a Mercury Sable, that also could be seen out of well, then my 2017 Civic with airbags everywhere has giant chunky pillars, and the front ones made me most nervous when I started driving the car around. It's impossible to see a good 4 or 5 inches of space on either side of the car.

I'm also teaching my son to lean way forward as he's looking in the mirrors to check on blind spots but I should probably also get him some concave mirrors. 

Tom, I think that's a great idea and very helpful. I know you hate Cramazon but I got a pretty nice setup for about 50 bucks, that I use on the backhoe. 

Don P- I got over the loader bucket forks for the backhoe and it's impossible to see the forks at all while in the seat. I got a backup camera that I initially put on top of the bucket but the view was still tricky as I couldn't see the level of the forks to run them into a pallet or stack of anything. It took me a while but finally thought of getting a magnetic camera mount (easily removable), seen below, and put the camera in the bucket and what a difference that made. You can see the view nicely but now I feel like a camera mounted up high too because once a load is on it's tough to tell where the whole stack is. The last picture shows how accurate I could get, on my first try with this camera setup, as I pushed a pallet into my shed.