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I called 911
« on: October 28, 2019, 09:05:26 PM »
I misjudged the direction and length of a falling pine this afternoon and it fell into a power line in the woods.  I saw it happening and put some distance between me and the stump.  I called the power company and reported it and they dispatched a repairman immediately.  In the meantime the tree top caught fire and ignited ground brush and leaves.  Thinking I would need a fire truck, I dialed 911 on my cell and got the sheriff's office in a neighboring county.  They gave the number of my county's sheriff's office.  It stayed busy for at least 15 minutes of redialing.  I looked up the number of the city police and they never answered either.  In the meantime the fires burned themselves out.  I stayed put until the lineman arrived and tell me it was safe to cross downed power lines.  I know I did something stupid but this experience doesn't give me a lot confidence in dailing 911.  I must be missing a step in the emergency calling procedure.  I can't imagine getting busy signal if there is a intruder or the house is burning or needing medical attention.  

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Re: I called 911
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 09:13:20 PM »
Glad it worked out in the end.  I would contact your local 911 center and file a formal complaint about what happened, not to be vindictive, but rather to get the attention necessary to address the multiple failures that happened here.  The first SO should have stayed on the line with you and connected you to the correct center, not getting off the line until you were speaking with someone.  Definitely not giving you a number to dial.  

Maybe the technology failed, maybe someone will get jacked up for not doing their job, either way you don't want a repeat of this for you or someone else the next time when seconds count.   In addition to your local funding via budgeting the 911 system get paid from taxes you pay each month on your cell bill.  No need for this to have happened.  
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 09:18:12 PM »
Scary stuff. Glad it turned out as well as it did. Lucky thing the fires burned themselves out. Whew!

You might just need to wrangle up the local dispatchers direct number and make sure its handy in your phone. That works here. The call ends up at the best place for it without going through the 911 operator. I use it a lot for fire and police services that do not really warrant an emergency 911 call and its been invaluable many times. Just depends on how things work there. You might want to drop by and talk to them. 

Glad to hear it all turned out ok today. 

Be safe out there. 
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2019, 09:20:41 PM »
First I'm glad it wasn't any worse than it turned out to be.  The fire could have been a real problem which I know you know.  

Every place is different, in our area cell numbers issued in the near by larger city were "mapped" back to that neighboring county.  Fortunately, they could transfer to the 911 dispatcher in our county.  That has now changed here. My cell number is attached to my residence in this county now.

It would be worth checking with your county emergency services to find out what happened.
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2019, 09:21:46 PM »
   Glad nobody was hurt. We always joke about calling 911 and getting put on hold but when you don't get an answer or get through it sounds pretty scary. I thought if you got the wrong county they patched you through to the correct one and the receptionist stayed on the line till they ensured you were connected. I agree you should register a complaint so the agency does a review of what went wrong and how to fix it.
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2019, 09:38:28 PM »
That ain't right on any level. You should contact the supervisor at the 911 center you first called and register a complaint. This is how things get better. No way should that 911 operator have given you a phone number and hung up with an active fire, completely unacceptable in any 911 system I have seen.
 It won't get better if people don't hold them to the proper standards. Kick that same scenario up a notch and put a child under that fallen tree and see what kind of investigation they would run after you spent 20 minutes trying to get help. At the 911 center there should be no difference in this 2 calls.
 There is a problem there, and it's training.
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2019, 09:49:46 PM »
Similar experience a few years back. We had a machine in shop carch fire. Flames up to ceiling and spreading. I called 911, it rang 8 or 10 times, before I gave up and started to get out. Luck was on our side a exfire fighter that worked with us was able knock it down with fire extinguiser. 911 called back 10 or 15 minutes later. Had it not been controled im sure the building would have been lost by then. Told them I was not impressed, at least not in a good way.
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2019, 09:59:22 PM »
The 911 system there clearly made some mistakes and everybody brought up some good points. Keeping the dispatchers number with you gives you an additional option when 911 doesnt get the job done. Having options is a good thing, especially when dealing with government entities. 

Itll be interesting to see what comes from your filing a complaint. Hopefully things will be better for everyone if they rectify some the systemic problems. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2019, 10:00:00 PM »
I had to use 911 several times when my wife was ill, the dispatcher asked what city, what service was required then stayed on the line until I was connected. It sounds like yours was either not properly trained or procedures were not being followed. I suggest lodging a complaint and staying on it until you get an answer, that is not acceptable. A life could be at stake.
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2019, 10:31:14 PM »
Good thing you weren't out here with that fire!  You'd end up being responsible for paying for putting out the wild fire that would have ensued!  180,000 people evacuated from the Sonoma (Kincade) fire.

I agree, you should followup on that call.
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2019, 10:57:55 PM »
Likely your cell provider is routing the 911 calls to a wrong number. It happens to be a police station, but it could be Apu's Quicky Mart for all they know. If it went to a general enquiries number at a local Police Stn, the guy that answers likely doesn't have the info / ability to patch you someplace else. 

Make the complaint to the Emergency Dept that should be covering your Area. Even if cellular gets your location wrong, it should still go to a 911 Operator someplace in the general area, and they could then patch you to the right person. 

But the misdirection wont get fixed unless it gets pointed out to someone in charge. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2019, 11:14:24 PM »
I've had my cell in my pocket and accidentally hit emergency call and within seconds got called back to see if all was ok. Something definitely not right with what happened with you!! 
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2019, 06:13:26 AM »
Goes to show you [You don't count on anyone for help].
I called one time for Ann to get moved to the ER from home.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2019, 04:22:25 PM »
Don't be surprised if you don't get a repair bill from the power company. Years ago we were cutting a job near Celsie Michigan and staying in motels we cut from day light to dark. The other cutter walked over to me and asked if I would pound on a wedge for him . He was about tuckered out from pounding so we started back towards the tree and it tips over hitting a power line. It cost us $1500.00 to put a single phase line back up and the company toward us that if there was a dairy farm or store on the line they could sue us for the lose income where the power was off. Now as a old man we learned most of what we know by screwing up when we were young  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2019, 04:23:19 PM »
Bill that must have been infuriating!  

Equally as frustrating are the 911 calls requesting assistance on Hawkins Farm Road and the responders show up here on Hawkins Road (nearly 20 miles away).  Apparently the people at our house number on Hawkins Farm Road used to like to fight ALOT!'
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2019, 04:40:40 PM »
The county I live in just changed ALL of the duplicate addresses in the county, to eliminate sending emergency crews to the wrong address. It took over a year to do it, changing entire road names and house numbers that had been the same for 100 years. I still have to look at my drivers licence when people ask me where I live.
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2019, 05:32:52 PM »
Call up the local news station and get a high energy cub reporter on the topic.  Something will get done when it makes the local news. 
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Re: I called 911
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2019, 05:33:24 PM »
NZ changed the rural road numbering years back so your number reflects exactly how far along that road you are, in 10 metre chunks. They even put in marker posts at each driveway with the numbers on them. So my old place was 102 Manu Road, meaning it was 1.02 km up that road. There were only 3 houses, and the road was so remote that Google's street view hasn't got there yet. But the address could be found in an emergency. 

Unless you got confused with Manu Crescent or Manu Place, which the post office seemed to do quite often. 
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