How do you fill your fuel and LUBE jugs/tanks?

[jb616]

I go through about 100 gallons every 3 to 4 months.  I have a buddy who buys a thousand gallon at a time.  has been as low as 1.19$ a gallon.  I do him favors, like helping with his "Rut Hut" build so he brings fuel to me, or I load it with skid loader and go 1 mile to his house.  Dallas spreads manure for a living.

I am thinking of a lot of responses for that last line, all of which would incite @Jeff to give me the boot ;) 

[doc henderson]

yes, I thought about "favors" as I wrote it, but of course not that kind of favors.  we are good friends whos kids came up through school together.  Dallas is interesting because he has a manure spreading business, but his clothes and vehicles including his equipment are spotless.  he is smart enough to do anything he would want.  was in the army reserves.  He is basically running a million dollar business.  comment taken in fun, and the spirit intended.  



 



 

 

[jb616]

I was talking about the LAST line....spreading manure for a living.....hint (thought he was a politician)  

[WV Sawmiller]

   I don't know about that but our local biscuit chain sells a biscuit labeled "The Politician". It is a big biscuit filled with hot bologna. :D

[doc henderson]

that is a much better tack than where I thought you were going.  

[RAYAR]

Yeah, I found out how invasive that dye is. There was probably 5-10 gallons of the red-dye diesel left when I went to refill it. I figured putting 200 gallons of the normal diesel would make the red imperceptible... well, I was wrong about that!

Just mix a quart or so of used (black) engine oil in it, no more red ;)

[Magicman]

I finally got an opportunity to put the (almost) final touches to my sawmill fueling pump today.


 
I had to leave the nozzle hanging to take pictures.  I was well pleased with the nozzle's ability to feather the fuel flow.


 
I used my battery jump box but I will drop a terminal out of my battery box is why I said (almost).  The DanG pump is hiding and didn't get it's picture taken.  :



My detachable pickup tube is ½" PVC with a ¾" elbow.  I have plugs for all of the ends to keep out dust/dirt/debris.   I believe that this will be a very useful mod.

[Resonator]

Magic Man had a plan, pump the go-go juice from a Jerry can. 

[Magicman]

I finally got an opportunity to put the (almost) final touches to my sawmill fueling pump today.

I took care of the "almost" today and I now have a very convenient external 12VDC source for my fuel pump.


 
I used the existing grommet holes and accessed my sawmill battery.  The yellow connectors and inline 30 amp fuse will feed the external terminals.


 
Nothing but a "pass through" here and again using the existing grommets.


 
After I upgraded to the new style fuses, I had the old fuse block.  I only used the 250 amp lugs and added a nylock nut on the ends for a knob to attach the pump's alligator clips to.  I didn't have any red so black is - and orange is +.  I'll grind the 150 amp lugs off.

[Magicman]

I finished the fuel transfer hookup yesterday and the lube jug looked mighty lonesome.  :  The 12VDC connection is in the exact proper location.


 
I remembered this FloJet pump that I had so the rest was simple.


 
Some tubing, a PVC pickup tube and a connector for the lube jug.  I did not time it but the lube jug filled quickly.  No more lifting jugs for me.  ;D

EDIT NOTE:  The hanging white line coming from the left is the disconnected line that normally connects to the faucet on the lube tank.  It looks like some sort of "T" connection but it is not.

[wesdor]

Thanks for sharing. I have been looking for a solution for about a year. Bought the under $20 D cell battery pump from another company and it lasted about 3 cans worth. (Sorry Jeff I should have omitted company name)

This looks very hopeful. Please keep us informed if it fails. I'm ready to go to HF and buy one once we are allowed to move around freely.

[Magicman]

Both mods are to prevent me from having to lift 5 gallons of either fuel or lube above waist high. 

I may be lame but I ain't lazy, might be cripple but I ain't crazy.  smiley_dizzy

[Magicman]

I had fueled the sawmill using the battery "jump box" but not using the sawmill battery terminals that I detailed in Reply #83 above.


 
I must now report a complete success!!    It's crazy how simple the fill up is with no jug lifting.  Also, the nozzle can "feather" the flow down to a trickle and the pump apparently has an internal check valve or something because when you shut the nozzle off, there is no high pressure buildup or anything other than a slight change in the sound.  I am very pleased.  

[Tom King]

Tom King,
I would like to come get that tank from you, but it will be a little over 3 months.

Sorry Jeep, but I decided to put that tank back in service today.  It didn't have much left in it, had been stored deep in a shed, and the pump still ran.  It wasn't as bad of a job as I thought to clean it out.  Filled it with offroad diesel for $1.44/9.  
I soldered all the wiring connections, changed the always aggravating alligator clips to a nice little 12v plug, changed the filter, bought an extra one, and it runs pretty, red diesel fuel.

I could write a book on what I did, in my spare time, rebuilding this 1978 JD 2640, but long story shortened, it runs, operates, and drives like a new one.  I wanted to wait until I was sure I had fixed all the leaks before I paint it.  It's now leak, and squeak free.  I'll paint it sometime before long.


 

[Magicman]

I still can't lift a 5 gallon jug high enough, but yesterday I filled both onboard jugs with the pumps.  Wow!!  Why not sooner??  

[terrifictimbersllc]

Is that the same pump as on the lube-Mizer ?

[Magicman]

Yes, the newer style.

[jeepcj779]

Hey Tom, no problem. The tractor looks like it is working well. Good luck withe painting.

[terrifictimbersllc]

Wondering if I could make some plumbing alterations with  quick disconnects ,so that the lubemizer could refill itself from a jug on the ground. On the 40 super everything is crammed in there and hard to get at  but on my 70 it's wide open. Probably would need to tee in before that 3 psi check valve to get the max flow rate. . Of course I'd have to overcome the issue that the lubemizer won't run on my 70 unless the blade is engaged in the head is moving forward.

[Magicman]

I believe that your idea would work.  A "T" would need to be inserted before the 3 psi check valve to get the full flow from the pump.  It could all be done with ball valves and quick connects.  You could run a switched 12vdc wire to take care of the power situation.

Years ago I had an RV pump mounted inside of the side cover which worked very well.  I connected the input/output together when not in use to prevent contamination.  I thought about mounting this pump permanently but I am satisfied as is. 

[Sixacresand]

Lynn,  Pray you are pain free after surgery.  

The two gallon plastic jugs that washing machine detergent comes in makes a lighter way to transfer water to the lube tank,  I had already cut a hole in the top of the plastic tank for the filling purpose,  either with a hose or from the laundry jugs.  

Still lifting the fuel tank, but I fill half full.  If traveling with the mill and I pass a station that sells 100%, I fill up.  

Of course, if there is a young helper on site, he does it the hard way. :D

[Magicman]

I am fairly confident that I will mount the water pump "onboard" and may look at that option for the fuel.  The pump(s) work so well that I believe that it will be worthwhile to at least try.

When I first got the sawmill I did mount a water pump but at that time I had no lifting problems so I disbanded it.  


 
My "young helper" turned 18 yesterday.  ;D   Back to sawing today.  8)

[Nebraska]

Glad he can help you, you're both better for it.

[Magicman]

Today my lube jug filler pump became onboard. 


 
First I mounted the pump in about the only space I could find, but it fit.  That's it on the right and the LubeMizer pump is on the left.


 
And routed the pump inlet tubing.


 
I connected the pump outlet to a tee and added a shutoff valve.  The valve is off when filling the jug.


 
Here is a trial run filling the lube jug from a bucket.


 
And then turn the valve on for normal operation.


 
I made up a jumper to connect to my battery outlet.  This could be hard wired with a switch.


 
But the jumper setup worked very well.


 
The inlet tube stowed very well behind the lube & fuel jugs.

[kantuckid]

As I commented earlier in another thread after Magicman suggested the HF diesel pump:
Mine is in use now but for farm tractor, (fills on top of hood) not my LT15 gasoline mill. I pull fuel from 5 gallon plastic jugs using the exact same plastic fittings to reach bottoms of my fuel jugs.
The electric comes from my battery tender SAE lead which I changed out to 10ga wire to run this pump. I bought a 13' SAE lead on Amazon, spliced it onto the pump and cut the other end, then attached to my tractor battery where it hangs from under the hood for either purpose now. Battery Tender SAE leads  as included with their tenders, are too light gauge for this HF pump.
For my WM LT15 mill, I bought a gasoline FI pump off Amazon as a "used return item" for under $10. My plan is self build a copy of the Gas Tapper set up for fueling with gasoline. I'll do as they did, clamping the pump, switch & wiring inside a plastic carry case along with suction and delivery tubing. No more lifting fuel for my mill or Kawasaki Mule or riding mower!
My shoulder was a full rotator cuff tear sewn back together along with 4 titanium screws and cable, done 11/2014 and still ticking along with full ROM and other than the logical weight limits it serves me well. It does have arthritis in there that came along for the ride after surgery, so it creaks and catches some and acts weird but it works.