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Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« on: June 18, 2020, 10:20:24 PM »
I purchased the new LX55 electric mill from woodmizer. It seems my electric will not handle this mill according to woodmizer. They said there are 22 other mills out there and have had no problems with them. Does anybody know of anyone personally that has one? I find it hard to believe my electric is not sufficient. I even talked to my electric supplier and their engineer told me the power is more than sufficient for this motor. I guess I will need to go with a gas mill. 

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2020, 10:23:55 PM »
Welcome to the Forum.  What electric service do you have? Volts, # of amps available, and Hz (don't know where you are)  What did Woodmizer say was the requirement for the mill?
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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2020, 10:32:38 PM »


   Also what problems are you having.
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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2020, 06:20:07 AM »
I have Orange n Rockland in NY. My voltage sits at 238 and drops to 217. Woodmizer says it canít drop bellow 220 but the plate on the motor is rated at 220! Youíre allowed a 10% drop so I believe the plate rating is wrong. The motor wonít kick out of start mode. Stays slow. Eventually it starts kicking up after several tries but this will eventually burn starter up. I believe it should have a clutch to engage like a gas motor. With the V belt off and no load it starts perfectly 

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2020, 06:34:16 AM »
What size wire are you running and for how many feet? That's a significant voltage loss and usually a sign of an undersized feed wire. 
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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2020, 06:55:09 AM »
#6 wire 20í And I took house out of equation. Hooked it directly to my service. Still doesnít work. I have a hard time believing no other people have this problem. Their first answer was sending me a new motor. That didnít work Ö 

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2020, 07:07:04 AM »
How many amps is the motor pulling under load and unloaded? Not following you on the second motor. You have tried two different motors with the same result? Also is that #6 copper or aluminum? 
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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2020, 08:03:55 AM »
How many amps does this draw? Should be on the plate.

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2020, 08:09:20 AM »
There's always a possibility of problems on the power company side of things.  Can you check the voltage drop right at the service panel?  Sometimes the connections at the transformer get corroded or even loose.  Maybe try it with the motor unloaded too.  
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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2020, 08:35:50 AM »
For a 7 hp should be around 40 amp draw 220

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2020, 08:51:27 AM »
I worked in a shop once where we had crazy power issues, one leg would go too high as I recall and sometimes we had one leg go too low. We put buck/boost transformers on all the machines and life got real easy after that. AT one time I was well versed in figuring out the install on those, but now I don't remember squat.  ;D it was 25 years ago. AT any rate, this may solve your voltage issue, but you would need a real electrician to go through the numbers and spec a transformer for you, not some guy who slept in a holiday a couple of decades ago. :D
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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2020, 09:41:07 AM »
What size is the motor? How far away is the pole transformer? Remember voltage drop starts at the transformer, if it is too far away. :'(

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2020, 02:33:42 PM »
Whew! This took off. 🤣 I really appreciate all the feedback. But I have a top of the pay scale trouble shooting electrician. A utility worker and utility engineer plus a friend that installed sewage plants for cities. So we have covered all bases and then some. Really wanted to find someone else that purchased this mill and ask how it works for them. Again thanks to everyone again. 👍

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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2020, 02:38:07 PM »
What brand of electric motor is it

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2020, 03:13:51 PM »
Whew! This took off. 🤣 I really appreciate all the feedback. But I have a top of the pay scale trouble shooting electrician. A utility worker and utility engineer plus a friend that installed sewage plants for cities. So we have covered all bases and then some. Really wanted to find someone else that purchased this mill and ask how it works for them. Again thanks to everyone again. 👍
Yeah, this a knowledgeable bunch and glad to help.  Just the nature of the FF membership.
You have quite a team there to cover all the bases except the motor itself.  
Being fairly new, there are only a few LX55 owners here and I can't remember if any have the electric version or not.  Some LT15 owners here run electric.  Maybe the same motor, maybe not.
With that team it sounds like you've eliminated everything but the motor itself.  Hard to imagine two could have the same problem, but things do happen.  Woodmizer is known for outstanding service, so no doubt they will do whatever is necessary to resolve the problem.  They are probably perplexed at this point.
Hopefully an LX55 electric owner will see this and weigh in.  I'll be mighty curious to hear what the problem is when it's resolved.  Good luck and keep us informed.

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2020, 09:50:18 PM »
Whew! This took off. 🤣 I really appreciate all the feedback. But I have a top of the pay scale trouble shooting electrician. A utility worker and utility engineer plus a friend that installed sewage plants for cities. So we have covered all bases and then some. Really wanted to find someone else that purchased this mill and ask how it works for them. Again thanks to everyone again. 👍
That's great, he should be able to get the problem figured out in short order and my money is on something simple.

When I built my house and shop I had the power company place the transformer next to the shop but the house is almost 300 feet from the transformer.  I ran voltage drop calculations and was concerned about voltage drop to the house.  Next step was to talk with the power company.  My transformer has several different taps to compensate for voltage drop.  They wired the transformer on the highest voltage tap to help at the house.  At the shop I get 246 volts and at the house 242 volts.

220 volt systems disappeared years ago.
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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2020, 09:53:17 PM »
Motors made in Italy. Iím returning it and getting 14hp gas. I canít invest any more time into this one. 

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2020, 09:54:09 PM »
Bill, Is it possible there is a problem with the mill? Maybe bearings to tight? When the blade is off try rotating all parts? Try #4 wire and see if that makes it go?

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Re: Woodmizer LX55 Electric motor
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2020, 03:22:13 AM »
Sounds like you didnt get your main question answered, who else has one (electric)?

I would call Woodmizer, get to the customer service manager if necessary, and have them give you contact information for a couple of customers who have the electric motor.  
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2020, 06:49:46 AM »
Woodmizer NY actually sent a tech to put a new motor on it. He said everything moves just fine. A flag went up in my head when he noticed it has heavier wheels than he has seen on some bigger models. I asked if itís possible they put wrong wheels on it? He said nahÖ So maybe againó bad design! I would love to talk to other customers. Ohh and get thisÖ6 weeks to get a gas replacement!!!!! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


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