Getting the most out of a log with Dr. Gene, 7/29/20 webinar

Old Greenhorn · July 28, 2020, 09:33:09 AM

This online event showed up in my inbox this morning, thought others might have an interest:
https://www.workingforest.com/nhla-presents-improving-log-to-lumber-production/

Here is the extract:

As COVID-19 continues to restrict our face-to-learning opportunities, NHLA continues to meet the educational needs of the hardwood industry. Last month, NHLA hosted a 4-part Kiln Drying webinar series presented by Dr. Gene Wengert. The series was a great success, and we are happy to announce that we will be continuing our partnership with Dr. Wengert to offer more educational opportunities.

This month, we are offering a webinar series designed to help sawmills achieve the maximum return on log to lumber production. The webinar instruction will follow the book co-authored by Dr. Wengert entitled " Sawing, Edging and Trimming Hardwood Lumber, Putting Theory into Practice." The webinar series is offered FREE to the hardwood community THANKS to the support of TS Manufacturing.

WEBINAR 1 DETAILS

Title: Sawing Hardwood Logs for Grade & Yield

Date: Wednesday, July 29

Time:10am – 11:30am Central (8am Pacific, 11am Eastern)

Price: FREE

CLICK TO REGISTER FOR THE LIVE EVENT

About: Sawmill operators are always looking for ways to recover as much yield as possible from every log. Join NHLA and Dr. Gene Wengert to discover the opportunities for improving grade and yield of your hardwood logs.

During this webinar, these fundamental questions will be answered:

Webinar Q&A

Feel free to send your questions to the presenters prior to the webinar via the link provided, as we have saved time for questions and answers (Q&A) at the end. You will also have the opportunity to ask questions during the webinar.

Dana Stanley · July 28, 2020, 10:52:43 AM

I signed up for it.

jb616 · July 28, 2020, 11:51:10 AM

Will there be a recording that we can watch at a later time? thx

Old Greenhorn · July 28, 2020, 12:01:47 PM

Quote from: jb616 on July 28, 2020, 11:51:10 AM
Will there be a recording that we can watch at a later time? thx

I have no idea. Go like around at the link and see if you find older ones.

Old Greenhorn · July 28, 2020, 02:23:10 PM

Quote from: jb616 on July 28, 2020, 11:51:10 AM
Will there be a recording that we can watch at a later time? thx

OK, I just got home and spent 1/2 hour poking around. I see no evidence that this will be available after the live event, sorry. Gene did a 4 week series with them a few weeks ago on kiln drying that I would really like to see (don't know how I missed it the first time) and I cannot find that either. Its a shame, because this is good and useful stuff. I do have one other resource where these might show up in a few weeks after they have been approved for CEU's in another program I belong to, but that is a long shot. Sorry man.

kelLOGg · July 28, 2020, 08:43:35 PM

I'm registered and this is and excerpt from email from NHLA.

Recording: All webinars are recorded and placed on nhla.com following the webinar. If you miss the live webinar you an access all of our webinars from the NHLA website.

Old Greenhorn · July 28, 2020, 10:12:16 PM

I am registered and got the confirmation email, but it did not include that line. I also followed that link you showed and it did not give any hint of access to previous webinars. I would really love the see the one Dr. Wengert did on drying. Try as I might, I could find it nowhere.

jeepcj779 · July 29, 2020, 01:38:13 AM

https://www.nhla.com/education/webinar-series/

I think this is the link you may be looking for. From the main page, select "Education" then "Webinars". You have to register for access.

Old Greenhorn · July 29, 2020, 08:21:20 AM

YUP! Thats it. I don't know how I missed it, I am usually fairly good finding that stuff. Thank you. I will start watching that series tonight or tomorrow, after the live one today.
Thank You again. Knowledge is power.

jeepcj779 · July 29, 2020, 12:36:05 PM

No problem! Glad to help a fellow greenhorn.

Old Greenhorn · July 29, 2020, 12:37:33 PM

It was a very good seminar, well worth the time. Thanks to Dr. Wengert for as fine job.

doc henderson · July 29, 2020, 01:34:05 PM

I tried to get in. I logged in but needed a form filled out and it kept saying only letters? I called and left a message.

Old Greenhorn · July 29, 2020, 03:32:59 PM

I dunno. The registration email gave me a direct link to the webinar. No issues.

Dana Stanley · July 29, 2020, 06:03:21 PM

I got a lot out of it, hopefully will keep it in mind when setting up cuts. Some of the production stuff didn't apply to me, but it was interesting.

jeepcj779 · July 29, 2020, 07:52:47 PM

Hey @doc henderson, try it with no spaces. I was getting that same message, but when I ran it with no spaces in my business name, it worked.

Old Greenhorn · July 29, 2020, 09:19:12 PM

Hey @doc henderson I see they have the replay available already. Perhaps try that. I will be starting his 4 part drying series as soon as I finish reading the Doc's book on air drying.

doc henderson · July 29, 2020, 09:21:03 PM

thx all. work got too busy. I was going to watch the drying stuff first. I will get it eventually!

Sixacresand · July 29, 2020, 09:58:29 PM

I watched it.

APope · July 30, 2020, 06:57:22 AM

Quote from: doc henderson on July 29, 2020, 01:34:05 PM
I tried to get in. I logged in but needed a form filled out and it kept saying only letters? I called and left a message.

I had to remove a space between the two parts of my business name. Go figure.

Old Greenhorn · July 30, 2020, 07:04:33 AM

About a half hour ago I began to watch the drying videos and had to register again and NOW I know what Doc was talking about. I had to do the very same thing. BTW, in these drying videos I am not even 15 minutes into it and am learning to correct some of the basic mis-understandings I held with fundamental concepts. I never understood how a particular wood could have 110%MC, but now I am very clear on that.

Knowledge is power.

Old Greenhorn · July 30, 2020, 07:24:14 AM

BTW, Gene has another live one coming up Next weds. titled "Improving Edging & Trimming Practices for Maximum Return" and I plan to make that one too. The only difference between watching it live or recorded after the fact is being able to ask questions. Posing questions is done well in his presentations, but I am finding the Gene is such a good instructor that he answers all my questions (so far) soon after I formulate them in my head and before I finish typing them.

As someone who used to teach and present technical information in formal settings, I very much enjoy watching a good instructor at work regardless of the material. Gene is one of the best I've seen. I am enjoying these videos tremendously and learning a lot even after having read his books.

doc henderson · July 30, 2020, 10:47:35 AM

yes I got in and watched the first quarter of the drying part 1. OG it must be the engineer (pardon my French) in you that made you want to think you could not exceed 100%.. i used to wonder if it was 2% per day and if each day it dropped total water loss as the % of a smaller and smaller number. lots to learn. I think that is why the drying guys like it this way and then the loss in water weight each day can remain constant.

Old Greenhorn · July 31, 2020, 09:23:23 AM

Quote from: doc henderson on July 30, 2020, 10:47:35 AM
yes I got in and watched the first quarter of the drying part 1. OG it must be the engineer (pardon my French) in you that made you want to think you could not exceed 100%.. i used to wonder if it was 2% per day and if each day it dropped total water loss as the % of a smaller and smaller number. lots to learn. I think that is why the drying guys like it this way and then the loss in water weight each day can remain constant.

Yes Doc, you are right. When he got to the point of explaining that, as well as explaining how an engineer would figure it, I thought he was talking directly to me as if he was inside my head. It was a little spooky, but he nailed it and now it makes sense. As for WHY it is done that way, I liked his answer: "Just because, that's the way they decided to do it". Works for me. Some things you just have to accept as is. I just need to understand it in order to gain a working knowledge of how all this stuff relates, which is my end goal for now.
I just completed the second session, more good stuff. I can see myself going back and watching these all again in a few months to strengthen what I learned and put to use and remind of the stuff I missed or didn't quite get right. AT the end of that session (2) he warns that the book will be used more for the 3rd session and there will be a lot more detail involved. "Get a good's nights sleep before it" he advises. So I will take the hint and re-read that book before I watch the session. There are a few charts I just could not figure out, one of which he explained in the second session and that turned out to be an eye opener of new knowledge for me which I think opened the door to understanding more about kiln cycles and schedules.
Knowledge is power.

doc henderson · July 31, 2020, 10:14:52 AM

Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 31, 2020, 09:23:23 AM

Yes Doc, you are right. When he got to the point of explaining that, as well as explaining how an engineer would figure it, I thought he was talking directly to me as if he was inside my head. It was a little spooky,

That had to be kind of scary for Dr. Wengert too, I hope he made it back out ok!!! :D :D :D

Old Greenhorn · July 31, 2020, 10:28:12 AM

Quote from: doc henderson on July 31, 2020, 10:14:52 AM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 31, 2020, 09:23:23 AMThat had to be kind of scary for Dr. Wengert too, I hope he made it back out ok!!! :D :D :D

I am pretty confident he made it out OK.
I have been diverted this morning reading (yet) another of his papers, this one is on log grading. Another subject which is a bit of a dark art to me. Trying to get a feel for the concepts. "Guidelines for Grading Hardwood Logs". (1994)