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Well, i went mad.
« on: July 30, 2020, 03:17:28 PM »
Bored to borrow the splitter from a friend, i just bought one of those. 

But an electric one. 

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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2020, 04:26:42 PM »
Nice !  8)
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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2020, 06:53:45 PM »
Awesome!
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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2020, 07:08:40 PM »
Mighty nice!!!!
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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2020, 11:28:21 PM »
Best bit, i got it cheap, ish. 

Well, i bought it sight unseen. But the plan is to add wheels or put it on my trailer, tow it behind my new truck tractor thingy.  And bypass the electrics, when operating away from my workshop. Running it from the tractor's hydraulics. 

Offer a splitting service to people. May be. Thought It is mostly for my own firewood. 

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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2020, 10:23:48 AM »
That looks like a very good system. Hope you have good luck with it. I am wondering when you run it on electric what kind of power source do you need. Volts, amps, watts ??

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2020, 11:44:55 AM »
380/415 v 50hz, 15k watts. 

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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2020, 11:57:19 AM »
thanks. I figured you would need something serious.

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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2020, 02:34:23 PM »
Small volvo?  Almost looks like 6BT but exhaust on wrong side i think.. Pump looks bosch-ish 
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2020, 06:11:39 PM »
Small volvo?  Almost looks like 6BT but exhaust on wrong side i think.. Pump looks bosch-ish
11 something liters, 144kw output of the alternator. IIRC, it's named 6DT or something like that. 
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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2020, 10:15:21 PM »
Is there an equivalent of the swiss  Oekotubes in France or Italy?

https://oekosolve.ch/en/products/oekotube/

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2020, 11:55:27 PM »
 It looks like a nice machine, diff to see how the European stuff is compared to here. Why the short lengths, cook stoves ? 

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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2020, 03:15:46 AM »
Is there an equivalent of the swiss  Oekotubes in France or Italy?

https://oekosolve.ch/en/products/oekotube/
Well, on big incineration plants, there is electrostatic precipitators.   For small household heating, i've never heard of anywhere needing those. 
It looks like a nice machine, diff to see how the European stuff is compared to here. Why the short lengths, cook stoves ?
Bargemonkey, small cook stoves, but also small stoves, or even small mass heaters. The outside boiler, is something absolutely unknown here. And our houses usually average at 1000, 1500 sqft. May be 2000. 
More and more, you see modern vertical stoves in houses. 
  http://www.supra.fr/famille-gamme-supra/les-poeles-a-bois/
Mind you, in france, what was the mainstream stove for years, is "the godin" 
https://www.google.fr/search?q=poele+%22le+petit+godin%22&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjmouueuPnqAhVT04UKHXTDBgAQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=poele+%22le+petit+godin%22&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1CxXFidaWCGcWgAcAB4AIABRogBgwOSAQE2mAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=9hMlX-bPGdOmlwT0hhs&bih=616&biw=1280
That doesn't take big logs either. 
But that machine can do up to 60 cm, that's about 24 inches. 
Well, for me, that's a hobby machine. Kind of. 

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2020, 10:10:36 AM »
Looks pretty nice I have been running a Multitek wood processor about 25 years. In thinking about this I dont see a advantage of the electric over diesel when you need a big gen set like that to run it. My processor runs all day on about 5 gal of fuel. That gen set will burn that in an hour or two. The noise may be more but you can park the gen set further away to limit the noise. Don't mean to sound like i'm putting this down I'm not. Just saying it will cost more to run generating the power. I like the idea of electric no playing around in the cold to get a diesel started no messing around with fuel just flip a switch and go. 

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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2020, 11:51:19 AM »
Sawyerfortyish, no worries. I already had the gen set for the sawmill. It's huge, compared to the 66kw i would need to start the saw straight in delta position. The main thing is, i got the gen set with 401 hours, for 1500. I resold my old 80kw, unreliable GM 6.71 1944 gen set, for the double of what i had in it originally. And that nearly paid for the new one. Same with this machine,  i won't say it was dead cheap. But it was only a thousand euros more than i was willing to pay for a much smaller machine last year, so i said to myself, go for it. And i might be able to run it on the workshop's power. As i have 15kw power, and the splitter has a 15kw star delta startup too. So i might be ok. Not having to run the gen set. 
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2020, 11:53:19 AM »
Mind you, with an awake offbearer, i could run the two together, and chuck the slabs straight in there! :D 
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2020, 01:48:39 PM »
If amazon sold those we could all be rich!
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Re: Well, i went mad.
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2020, 02:33:25 AM »
That's a nice machine! Looks good with the circular saw, most of the saw/split machines have chains I thought. Are you selling firewood or do you saw and split for others per hour?
It might be an idea to have a small PTO driven generator on your tractor. Does it have a PTO?
They are much cheaper and smaller than a diesel driven generator. Lot of dairy farms use them in case the power shuts down. They run on the 540 rpm shaft, so it won't work on a front PTO I guess. And the rotation direction in the front is differen.



Edit; Didn't see that you posted the picture of your generator yourself  :D Looks like you have plenty of power for your unit!


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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2020, 12:36:07 AM »
Hi Cruiser_79.

Well, i have plenty of power for sure. But not mobile. I have found a PTO gen set, 50kva, but too expensive. I think i'll go the hydraulic route. Since i have plenty of hydraulics on this thing

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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2020, 04:23:28 PM »
With hydraulics your more free to find a place for your generator as well. You could place a dynaset like generator under the truck bed for example. But you will need a big hydraulic tank or an oil cooler to run a serious hydraulic driven generator. At my brothers company we have a hook lift workshop with a hydraulic driven generator. Works fine, I think it is 15 kVA or something like that. 


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