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Started by TimW, November 23, 2020, 10:06:38 PM

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Nealm66

Will be interesting to see if the plastic sleeves work. So wet around here. I'd wonder if they'd still rot because of the moisture trapped inside. Gotta keep them above ground with metal here even with the ground contact treated if you really want them to last. The newer environment friendly treatment isn't near as good as it used to be. I've thought about roofing tar to seal, old farmer said it helps but they still rot

TimW

Nealm66,
  The posts have dried 3 years.  Then they were coated with 3 coats of copper naphthenate/diesel then put in the sleeves and sealed with silicone.  If they do rot, I don't think I will be around to see it.
I am high on a clay hill with sand down near the gully, so no standing water near the posts.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

I pounded in 6 stakes last week.  4 corners for the main body and 2 for a shed.  Next day I was too sore in the shoulders to do anything.
So, I thought how can I put in batter board stakes without killing my shoulders and arms swinging an 8 pound sledge hammer.
So I slept on it and ordered a 1.5 inch auger bit from Amazon for planting garden stuff.
I just planted nine split 2x4 stakes with almost no heavy swinging with this gizmo.............
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Here are the batter boards installed.  The stake between the excavator and batter boards will be a steel post for the shed where the sawmill will roost.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

My Grand daughter will stay with me next week.  I was planning on her helping me square it up with string lines.  But Hurricane Beryl is headed this way and at least Monday-Wednesday will be wet.  After that, the clay will need to sun dry a little to walk on it. 
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

I finally got my Grand daughter over to help square up the batter board strings.  We got it within 1.5 inches of square for 30x80 feet before I called quitting time.  Quitting time is when my T shirt is completely wet.  She enjoyed helping and I enjoyed it too.  She can't wait to help more on the build.  Paying her helps that incentive. She will be 11 tomorrow.  I think we are going to an escape room.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TreefarmerNN

I'll confess to not reading all 7 pages of this.  I should have so please excuse my jumping in late.  Did you consider prefab metal trusses in your planning?  If so, what made factors made you choose what you did?

Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

https://www.truss.supply/

Regardless of what you used, I'll watch with interest as I also need a sawmill shed.  The wide opening would be ideal for the mill, logs and long length lumber so your project looks ideal.

TimW

  I get SYP for free, just go pick them up and they load them.  My sawmill will only cut wood.  Thus a wooden sawmill shed.
 

Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

I got the corner post installed.  Gonna start putting in line poles later this week.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

thecfarm

Quote from: TimW on August 09, 2024, 06:54:58 PMMy sawmill will only cut wood.   
 


Most of the times my will only cut wood.   :wacky:
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TimW

Your right.  Once in a blue moon mine cuts steel. :uhoh: But only sawmill parts that didn't move out of the way. zzzz_smiley
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

I took a break from outside work to build this pole platform.  I will fork it up to the post via the slot built into it and can close a trap door to stand at work at pole top level from 4 sides.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Yesterday was the day to start putting in shed line poles.  First one took some time getting everything arranged with 2 orange/pink strings going from corner post to corner post.  Notice the levels ty wrapped to the pole.
The tower is very handy so far as it is easy to climb and tightened the string line.
But it's main function will be used while cutting 2x12 notches in the pole tops for top sills.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

Magicman

I like that scaffold Tim, plus you have a way to move it to where it is needed.   :thumbsup:
98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

barbender

That scaffold can double as a deer stand when you get done with your building project😊
Too many irons in the fire

fluidpowerpro

Change is hard....
Especially when a jar full of it falls off the top shelf and hits your head!

Local wind direction is determined by how I park my mill.

TimW

It's gonna be my Grand daughter's tree house, the one I never built years ago.  She is gonna love painting it.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Quote from: Magicman on November 03, 2024, 07:05:55 AMI like that scaffold Tim, plus you have a way to move it to where it is needed.  :thumbsup:
It's a bit top heavy, so it moves around at a turtle's pace. 
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

DanielW

I've helped build quite a few pole barns on farms around here that have used those plastic sleeves. Make uber-sure you caulk around the top (and preferable have a drain hole in the bottom with gravel beneath). They work quite well to prevent rot if they can keep the posts dry and insulated from the soil/microbes. But if water wicks its way in between the sleeve and post and sits there it can accelerate the rot.

TimW

I silicon  chalked the tops and put gorilla tape over that. I didn't put a hole in the bottom so water won't seep in.  It is sitting in concrete.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

I finally got the front posts installed.  The first double door header/top sill post went right into place.  Guess my Grand daughter helping bracing and handing me tools made the difference.  The second double post gave me fits and had to remove it and dig more over to the string side.  I used 2x4s and 2x6s to help hold it while I manuevered to get it in position and plumb.  I even figured out a hands free way of checking plumb and level!
Now 7 post plantings on the back side when it gets drier.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

I finished planting all the wooden poles.  The only two poles on dividing wall (machinery storage)  are cedar, with lots of character!
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Next to plant are two steel 6x6 "sockets" that 5x5 steel poles will sit in to support the 30 foot I beam over the Woodmizer, which will set outside the building under a 16 foot wide shed.  It will be in the lower right in the photo of all the poles, above.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

Magicman

98 Wood-Mizer LT40 SuperHydraulic    WM Million BF Club

Two: First Place Wood-Mizer Personal Best Awards
The First: Wood-Mizer People's Choice Award

It's Weird being the same age as Old People

Never allow your Need to make money
To exceed your Desire to provide Quality Service

TimW

I installed the 2 I beam pole "sockets" today and yesterday.  I was lucky to have two magnetic torpedo levels to plumb the sockets in place.  Problem was I would bump the level and it would fall to the bottom of the 3 foot deep hole.  The other problem was having to work on my knees.  Knee pads are a great knee saver.

Now we wait while it rains for 2 days.
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

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