JD 460FEL cylinder rebuild

[CCCLLC]

Just received my quote to rebuild 2 cylinders on 460FEL. The 2 smaller ones one the bucket tilt. Nothing bent or broken, just internal seals. $340 each.
I knew it was going to be high but forgot how high.

[Wlmedley]

If they are using OEM seal kits that doesn't sound to bad.

[CCCLLC]

Yes, OEM from JD. Had it done 10 years for half that.  But that was 10 years ago. Recently  installed  grapple and this is part of my learning curve. Those two on the tilt are the weak link.

[Firewoodjoe]

Every week it's something different that goes up. Go buy some r134a. Went up 300%. Then this fuel delivery went down $.80 🤷‍♂️ I'm not complaining but in 3 weeks time that's a lot I'd say. Makes you wonder. 

[nativewolf]

Every week it's something different that goes up. Go buy some r134a. Went up 300%. Then this fuel delivery went down $.80 🤷‍♂️ I'm not complaining but in 3 weeks time that's a lot I'd say. Makes you wonder.

Oil is falling this past couple of weeks and heating oil is down to $3.5X when I checked it this week  (that's an august contract for a lot of heating oil).  
Do you keep a storage tank on site or at your house?  On a big job we're going to do I have though about moving our bulk tank to the site but haven't made up my mind yet.  

[Firewoodjoe]

Every week it's something different that goes up. Go buy some r134a. Went up 300%. Then this fuel delivery went down $.80 🤷‍♂️ I'm not complaining but in 3 weeks time that's a lot I'd say. Makes you wonder.

Oil is falling this past couple of weeks and heating oil is down to $3.5X when I checked it this week  (that's an august contract for a lot of heating oil).  
Do you keep a storage tank on site or at your house?  On a big job we're going to do I have though about moving our bulk tank to the site but haven't made up my mind yet.  

I have a storage tank at home and transfer tanks in my trucks. Some guys have one taken to the site but the fuel cost is the same and you have the theft risk. 

[Don P]

How much are the seals, if the metal is in good shape it sounds like a possible sweat equity equation... which has been known to factor in waiting for another seal kit, or I've been known to sheepishly carry in a box of parts, but most of them are not bad.

[CCCLLC]

Unsure of the OEM parts price. Guessing $50-$60, but like everything else, going up. Surely most of the bill is labor and cost of everything that goes with being in business.  Sure it's a fair price. Just surprised from 10 years ago. Guess I need to get out more. 
  Ten days from drop off to estimate pick up date. That's the worst part. Naturally they had a short work staff. Sign on fence said " join our team-$25 start".

[chevytaHOE5674]

In true JD fashion there are like 8 serial number splits for different curl cylinders. I'm sure some share the same seal kit but there is at least 3 different ones. Price is 30-60 bucks for the kits I looked up.

I'm sure the green dealer charges more labor than I do and I'm at $100 an hour currently for in shop work. 

So say 340-50 is at 290 for labor. By the time they tear them down, clean them up and reassemble they have 2+ hours into each one. 

[EricR]

Seems a little steep to me. I just had 2 prentice stabilizer pistons done for a little under $600. And had a 2.5 inch bucket tilt cylinder with a bent rod straightened and repacked for $285. 2-3 day turn around for each

[CCCLLC]

EricR, that sounds like a great price considering the investment in specialized tools and skillset needed to do it. Was that the "friends & family price?

[EricR]

No that's full price as far as I know. If they give me a deal they have never made it known.  I live a town over from new bedford Massachusetts- the number one fishing port in the US for the last 20 or so years.  There are a lot of hydraulic shops.  3 of them are within a few hundred feet of each other.  The competition might be keeping prices in check

[chevytaHOE5674]

If your concerned about price the JD dealer is the last place I would take them to get repaired. Order the seal kits from the JD dealer or online and take them to a small independent shop and I'm sure it'll be cheaper. 

There is a lot of overhead and "pork" to keep the JD sign on the building.