new saws

[ehp]

I bought 5 saw stihl saws , 3 new 500i and 2 462 arctics , both 462s will not run to save their souls , the mtronic is all over the place trying to set the motor so they are back at Stihl , I have owned alot of mtronic saws and these are the first junk ones I have gotten .    Now the 500i , one runs great , the other 2 run great if you can get them primed  so I took the primer bulb out to see why it was sucking as much air as fuel , the groove the bulb sits in is a couple thou bigger than the bottom part of the primer bulb so of its going to suck air plain and simple  and another thing , why only 2 screws holding the plate to the primer , there should be 4 . the primer bulb fits in between the plate and primer , I just put a shim between the primer bulb and the plate and problem is fixed , make sure shim does not have a sharp edge that will cut the bulb

[doc henderson]

Wow.  That is sad! 

[Magicman]

Both of my newest saws are non MTronic on the advice of my selling dealer.  He had MTronic saws on the shelf and special ordered these for me.  He knows me and my chainsaw usage and said that there would be no advantage for me since I do not change them out every few years.  I keep saws forever and twenty years from now the computer tuning program might not even exist.

[ehp]

Have not heard back much from stihl other than both saws are junk , will see what they do about if anything , I think the one saw had 1.6 hours on it but never ran any good out of the box , other saw was just under 5 hours . If they do nothing that will cost them alot more in the end . I told stihl to really fix those saws proper or just keep them and I will eat the over 3 grand I got in those 2 saws and carry on running something else 

[customsawyer]

I hate to hear that. Just think of the extra money Stihl is saving, by not putting those two extra screws in primer bulb.

[GAB]

Someone might of gotten a bonus for value engineering those 2 screws and the holes associated with them saving the company maybe $0.20 canadian/saw.
When doing value engineering many factors need to be factored in to make a sound decision, it appears that was not the case in this decision.
GAB

[ehp]

It's the 462 arctics that are junk not the 500i's , my fix on the primer bulb has the 500i's  working good , no air in the bulb when priming . I heard that the dealer had to order the latest software to check the 462's but that was a week or so ago and I have heard nothing back . It's a shame cause I prefer to run the 462 over the 500i by alot but if that is the way the mtronic is going to be set I will not buy any more and a lot of guys watch what I do and say . So if this goes bad what will i be running , at this point more than likely the 365/372xt ported . Ran those saws for quite a few years and no problems with them and they cut and husky still has lots in their warehouse up here

[Woodfarmer]

That's just not right Ed,  still running that 2159 you ported for me what, 20 years ago.

[ehp]

If a saw is ported correct  it should out last a stock OEM saw in a good person hands , ported will run cooler which is the killer of all 2 strokes , engines blowing up are 99% caused by heat so you need to figure out how to manage that heat . Yesterday I pulled out my old 562 xpg that I cut with for I guess almost 2 1/2 years cutting big timber and its far from stock . I'm going to run it for abit and see how the shoulder handles it 

[ehp]

and the heated handles on the 562 seem to be the hottest I have ran , almost to hot lol , have to turn them off lots until hands get cold then turn back on

[ehp]

So a update , Stihl has had those saws a long time and yes they agree there is a real problem but has done nothing to fix the problem  so today I went to a new husky dealer and bought 2 of the 562s, 2 of the 365s and a new 395 , Pretty sure the plan is all saws ported if I get bored enough lol, Price on huskys are way way less than the stihl , I can buy a 28 inch bar set on a 395 for less than a normal 462 

[DHansen]

Made that dealers day a great one.