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Poll: Cloned meat
« on: January 28, 2007, 08:29:18 PM »
The FDA will probably rule whether they think it is safe or not by the end of the year.  Would you buy it?

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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 08:39:41 PM »
 No , I have this thing about trying to know where and how my food is grown ... And clonning just aint right ... nature has a way of doing things that we should not be messing with .  :-\
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 08:44:40 PM »
It will probably be ok to eat but I think I will wait for test results.
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 08:50:48 PM »

 Never met a burger I didn't like. All look the same to me.  ;D ;D :D
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 09:06:12 PM »
I ain't skeered of it.  Cow meat is beef and pig meat is pork.  What I can't figger out is, WHY? ???  The animals is perfectly willing and able to take care of the procreation process on their own, and there is always artificial insemination and embryo transfer to get the optimum bloodlines.  They trying to get a cow that tastes like chicken, or what?
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 09:07:48 PM »
I said no, but only because I still have a choice.  :)
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2007, 09:10:29 PM »
Voted yes, but think most consumers will not want it in their Supermarket. At least not till more data is out there.  I'm sure we will be getting alot of customers Inquiring soon.  For Farmers, it behoves them to reproduce their best animals. If you have ever been to a cattle Ranch, you would see most are virtually looking like kissin' cousins already thru genetic modification.

Most Ranchers and Retailers are tasked with supplying consumers with a consistent product with the right amount of lean, marble, flavor and palitability. Besides if the goberment says it's safe, ain't it?  :D
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 09:20:24 PM »
i agree with DanG, Why?

our breeders should strive to improve breeds, not replicate them. 

our "science" is going to be the end of us.
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2007, 09:31:03 PM »
Cloning is fine as long as you aren't passing on undesirable stuff.   When genes mix, nature tends to take care of most of that stuff.  We'll have to see how cloning produces.  That sheep, Dolly was it?, died an early death supposedly from a heart malfunction.  I dont think they ever really found out why.  While cloning might carry forth the same genes, we don't yet know exactly how they will always be replicated.

I had to say "I don't know" because I'd like to know something about it before I jump in with both feet.

We eat cloned food every day and it hasn't hurt us yet, as far as I know.  Oranges, pears and persimmons are cloned.  Some Tomatoes are cloned. The main reason that we haven't eaten cloned Cow is because we didnt' know how to make'em.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2007, 09:34:21 PM »
Man has been genetically engineering our food for a very long time. Just because we now choose to call it cloning or selective breeding really makes no difference to me.

I saw up front all  the BS about BST or BGH. It was amazing knowing all the facts and hearing all the scare tatics that were used to try to stop it from being used. Bovine growth hormone was first discovered back in the 1920's and it was hoped that it could cure dwarfism in humans. So 80 years ago at John Hopkins they both fed it to humans and injected it into their blood. The tests were a complete failure as BGH had absolutely no affect on humans. Seems that protein hormones not only are species specific, but when eaten they are readily digested just like any piece of protein. Insulin is another protein hormone and that is why it must be injected, not eaten.

I am a lot more worried about contamination in our food than wether the meat is from a cloned animal.  :)
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 09:46:36 PM »
Marcel, nature clones as well.

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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2007, 09:50:12 PM »
NO!   Something is just not right here.
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2007, 09:54:00 PM »
 Ya , I know Furby , but I am still partial to beeing chassed by having a bull  in the pasture . Also going out to find a replacement with the qualitys that we would like in a calf .
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2007, 09:59:21 PM »
Cloning a cow or pig seems like a lot of work to do something nature does OK by itself, but it wouldn't bother me to eat it. Now they're working on another type of cloning using tissue culture to grow specific types of meat. Basically it's like growing the steak and bypassing the cow. That makes more sense to me, but I'd have to wonder if you could get the flavor of naturally grown, cloned or otherwise, meat.
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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2007, 10:16:53 PM »
The only way that makes more sense to me is if they are putting it in K-rations.  That stuff was mystery food anyway.

The good part about it is that, if they can make a steak, they maybe can make a heart, liver or kidney that works.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2007, 10:35:51 PM »
When I get hungry I will eat almost anything including cloned meat. Tom, what is this K-rations you are talking about? I thought they were WWll rations. You are not that old. :o  Maybe it was a Navy thing.  I have eaten C-rations and LRPPs, but no K- rations. I feel neglected since I never got any spam.

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Re: Poll: Cloned meat
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2007, 10:44:07 PM »
Pigman, K-rations were before my time too.  But, in the 1950's, being in an Army ROTC program, we were introduced to them as a measure of education and harrassment.  We also sampled some C-rations. 

The Navy fed us lobster, steak, eggs, potatoes,grits, tomatoes, milk and cool-aide. 

I can still remember asking from the line, What are we drinking today.  And, having on of our youngest sailers from the Bronx yell from the mess decks, "LOUD MOUTH LIME!".
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2007, 10:47:59 PM »
No problem with eating a cloned animal, been eating cloned friut and vegetables for years.

The problem I see is with the actual farming of said cloned animals. You have a whole herd of genetically identical animals.

Now some new strain of cow flu comes along, and if your herd happens to be susceptible to it, the ALL die. Now with with a normal herd, each animal is different, so some might snuff it, the remainder survive and pass on the resistance to their offspring.

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2007, 11:11:37 PM »
I et a bunch of Charlie-Rats.  I was one of the few that liked the Ham and Limas, so I did ok. ;D  Where I had a problem was with "B-rations".  That was the institutional sized, canned food that was for mess halls to put something out real quick.  Well, a whole gaggle of us came in late one night, and the mess hall was already shut down.  We hadn't eaten since breakfast, so they broke out some B-rats for us.  I musta been the only one hungry enough to eat the canned hamburgers.  Next morning, I got sick, REAL sick, about 200 miles from home.  They medevaced me out to a field hospital, where I DanG near died from Botulism poisoning, while they treated me for Malaria. ::)  I got out of there after about 3 weeks and literally hitchhiked back to my unit, only to find they had shipped all my belongings home. >:(  I got my stuff back before it left the country, and it all turned out ok, except I never did find that pretty Nurse I met at the hospital. :-\
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2007, 11:26:26 PM »
Oh those mess halls had such good food. I always remember the mornings when they had "eggs to order" and they had a grill right in the serving line. We had this big bellied cook that would stand over that grill in a T shirt soaked with sweat, a cigarette in his mouth with the ashes falling on the grill along with the sweat dripping off his nose, and he would fry your eggs any way you liked, no charge for the drippings.  :)
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