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Author Topic: Solved!!...12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?  (Read 9192 times)

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When the cabinets were built on either side of my fireplace in 1982, the cabinet maker did a crappy job on the 6 doors (3 on either side of the fireplace).  The doors warped, and we lived with them for too many years.  I decided to re-do the doors myself.  The idea was to create a door with two panels divided by a middle rail.  Each panel would be copper, with the shape of a leaf with significance to my family punched in the copper panel.  We had a family discussion to ascertain which 12 leaves we would display.  The criteria were that each leaf had to have some significance to us and that each leaf should come from our property.

We collected representative leaves and made the 12 choices.  I took the leaves to work and made a copy of the actual leaves actual size.  So each leaf is the outline of a real specimen.

The test is to see how many of the 12 leaves you can identify from the punched shapes alone.  Unfortunately, all the leaves are Southern since they came from my property, so you Northern, Western, Carribean, Southern Hemispherean, European, and assorted other members who are interesting in participating might have to do some research..........not a bad thing.

I will list them by number.  If you take the test before you scroll down to see other poster's responses, you will not be biased.

Post your response by number, for example:
1.  Redwood
2.  Atlantic white cedar
3.  Jolly ole oak

Here goes ;D

1.
 
2.
 
3.
 
4.
 
5.
 
6.

7.
 
8.
 
9.
 
10.
 
11.
 
12.
 
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 12:13:30 PM »
1. Black walnut
2. sycamore
3. Black Oak
4. shagbark hickory
5. Black Maple
6. Cherrybark Oak
7. Sweetgum
8. Buckeye, or horse chestnut
9. southern red oak
10. Red Bud, possibly mulberry
11. Tulip poplar
12. White oak.

Does spelling count?
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 12:28:04 PM »
I agree with TR except I would say #7 is Tupelo
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 01:02:14 PM »
1. Walnut
2. Sycamore
3. Red oak
4  ash
5. Sugar maple
6. R.O.
7. Sweetgum
8. ????
9. Southern R.O.
10. Redbud
11. Tulip Poplar
12. White Oak

I didn't look at the others until I made my list...I promise.
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 01:25:56 PM »
Current Scores:

Texas Ranger                10/12 or 83%
Onewithwood                  9/12 or 75%
Metalspinner                    8/12 or 67%  or 10/12 depending on leniency of Judge ;D
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2007, 02:43:09 PM »
WDH, I remember you quizzing me on those panels when I was first learning tree ID in high school :D.  I guess I'll refrain from the competition since I already know what they all are ;).
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 02:54:16 PM »
Nothing like a panel test, eh :D

Actually, both of TR's misses were by only a whisper, and given the info available, were excellent choices given that you are only working with silohoeuttes.

Of the three respondants combined, 11 out of 12 have been identified correctly.  Only one has yet to be properly identified..... ::).
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 03:22:42 PM »
1. Black walnut
2. sycamore
3. Scarlet Oak
4. shagbark hickory
5. Red Maple
6. Cherrybark Oak
7. Sweetgum
8. Buckeye, or horse chestnut
9. southern red oak
10. Red Bud, possibly mulberry
11. Tulip poplar
12. White oak.

I copied TR's and made a couple changes.

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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 03:41:52 PM »
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Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?

No but I'll play.

1.  Walnut
2.  ? Maple
3.  Red Oak
4.  Shellbark Hickory
5.  ? Maple
6.  Southern Red Oak
7.  Sweetgum
8.  Buckeye
9.  Black Oak
10.  Cottonwood
11.  Tulip Popular
12.  White Oak

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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 04:04:33 PM »
Current Scores:

Texas Ranger                10/12 or 83%
Onewithwood                  9/12 or 75%
Metalspinner                    8/12 or 67%  or 10/12 depending on leniency of Judge ;D
Radar67                     10.5/12 or 88%  Partial credit for one choice at discretion of Judge. 
Larry                            6.5/12 or 54%  Partial credit for one choice at discretion of Judge

Now, when all respondants are combined, 12 out of 12 have been identified, but nobody has got them all yet.
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 04:08:06 PM »
Okay, check my modification.
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 04:11:29 PM »
Current Scores:

Texas Ranger                10/12 or 83%
Onewithwood                  9/12 or 75%
Metalspinner                    8/12 or 67%  or 10/12 depending on leniency of Judge ;D
Radar67                        11/12 or 92% 
Larry                            6.5/12 or 54%  Partial credit for one choice at discretion of Judge

Modified score for Radar67.
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 04:17:03 PM »
Okay, let's change 3 to red oak

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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2007, 09:02:47 PM »
Don't change #3. 
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2007, 09:56:03 PM »
1. Black walnut
2. sycamore
3. scarlet Oak
4. shagbark hickory
5. Red Maple
6. Cherrybark Oak
7. Sweetgum
8. Buckeye, or horse chestnut
9. southern red oak
10. Red Bud, possibly mulberry
11. Tulip poplar
12. White oak.

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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2007, 10:02:19 PM »


Texas Ranger                11/12 or 92%
Onewithwood                  9/12 or 75%
Metalspinner                    8/12 or 67%  or 10/12 depending on leniency of Judge ;D
Radar67                        11/12 or 92% 
Larry                            6.5/12 or 54%  Partial credit for one choice at discretion of Judge

Modified for Texas Ranger.
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2007, 10:38:37 PM »
I only named four of the twelve as oaks.  My tree service guy would have called eight of those twelve oaks.  I should get some sort of credit for hitting the right family. ;D
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2007, 11:41:50 PM »
Hey , you saw the comment about the leniency of the judge :D.  I am not a hanging judge ;D.  The two in question were both oaks................ :P.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2007, 11:56:53 AM »

1. Black walnut
2. sycamore
3. Scarlet Oak
4. shagbark hickory
5. Red Maple
6. Cherrybark Oak
7. Sweetgum
8. Buckeye, or horse chestnut
9. Black oak
10. Red Bud, possibly mulberry
11. Tulip poplar
12. White oak.

Stew note the change on 9
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Re: 12 Part What-is-it Test......Do You Know Your Leaf Shapes?
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2007, 01:50:20 PM »
Negative Stew.  You had that one right.

I will have to say that the one that is in question could easily be two species from just looking at the shape alone.  One of these species is opposite branched and the other is alternate.  No way to tell that from the shape alone.

One person did get it right ::).
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