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What would a tandum axle log truch weigh?

Started by olddude, March 01, 2012, 12:02:10 PM

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olddude

I know, I know this is a loaded question but I don't need an exact to the pound answer. I have a lot of hard wood that got blown over and I am using some, tops and knotty stuff for firewood but was thinking about selling the nice larger butt cuts to a guy that is cutting timber next door. I don't know the guy and he is probably an honest guy but I guess for my own peace of mind I would like to know what a load of nice logs will bring in today's market. I talked to a couple of the guys working over there and got conflicting answers to my questions and I haven't been able to catch the boss over there yet. When I do I just want to know if he is just yanking my chain or if he is offering me a fair price for my wood.....ifin you catch my drift.

I know there are a lot of variables and as I said I don't need an exact answer but what I plan on selling is all clean logs already cut and piled in several places on the property. Of course he will have to cut the logs to the length he wants to haul and he just leaves the rest right where it is laying. It is all clean, no knots, white and red oak and what I'll be selling is all over 12" at the small end.

They said they sell the logs at the mill by weight; which is something new from when I used to haul logs in my younger life. Another thing I was wondering, how do loggers figure what they pay for the wood they get from land owners and is there any way to be sure you are getting a fair deal?

beenthere

Welcome to the Forum.

Do you recall how logs were scaled to get their volume in bd ft (when you were trucking)? 
That would be something you could do, and then convert any "by weight" sale price-talk back to what your logs are worth. Total the volume you have and then figure a "take it or leave it" price that you would accept as fair to you. Have your check in hand before the logs leave your place.
Let them convert the price to whatever they think they can sell to their market.
Just a thought.
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smwwoody

first where are you located?

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olddude

Quote from: smwwoody on March 01, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
first where are you located?

Woody

PS   and welcome to the forum

Thanks! I'm in VA.

HiTech

I haul logs on a Paystar 5000 and the empty truck weighs around 26,000 lb. It is permitted for a gross weight of 66,000. This is just a tandem no drop or tag axle. Dump box with log racks. So you can legally get 20 ton of logs on it. Some types you may not hit 20 ton and others you could be over. The only wood I ever sold by the ton was poplar. They were paying $30 a ton. Not sure what they wanted it for, but it was going on railcars. I think it had to be at least 16' and not over 21'. That could be wrong on lengths...it was awhile ago. To get 3,000 feet on her you have to have good wood. I would say 2,500 to 2,800 is average. Don't know if this helps or not?

terry f

     Here its 34,000 on the drives and 12,000 on the steer with no tag or drop axle. I would think you could get 14 ton load legal.

olddude

Quote from: HiTech on March 01, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
I haul logs on a Paystar 5000 and the empty truck weighs around 26,000 lb. It is permitted for a gross weight of 66,000. This is just a tandem no drop or tag axle. Dump box with log racks. So you can legally get 20 ton of logs on it. Some types you may not hit 20 ton and others you could be over. The only wood I ever sold by the ton was poplar. They were paying $30 a ton. Not sure what they wanted it for, but it was going on railcars. I think it had to be at least 16' and not over 21'. That could be wrong on lengths...it was awhile ago. To get 3,000 feet on her you have to have good wood. I would say 2,500 to 2,800 is average. Don't know if this helps or not?

I think I probably need to rephrase my question. In my old age my mind does funny things some times. I was wondering what a tandum load would bring in $$$ at the mill and what do loggers normally pay the land owner for the wood they haul? Generally speaking of-course.

smwwoody

Where at in VA   I can give you prices for most of the central VA mills

Woody
Full time Mill Manager
Cleereman head rig
Cooper Scragg
McDonugh gang saw
McDonugh edger
McDonugh resaw
TS end trim
Pendu slab recovery system
KJ4WXC

olddude

Quote from: smwwoody on March 02, 2012, 03:14:54 PM
Where at in VA   I can give you prices for most of the central VA mills

Woody

Richmond area, I think they hauled some of the better stuff to West Point and the other stuff to the rail road tie mill off 106 in Charles City county.

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