Garret Skidder Help

Mickey72 · August 26, 2012, 09:48:18 AM

My dad picked up a Garret 15 he is trying to put back together. The differentials have been destroyed so he is looking for parts for it. I believe it has Rockwell truck rearends. Since the aft rearend was taken off he is looking for pics of how the drive line gets assembled. We believe he is missing the one of the splined slip joints.

Basically we need to find somewhere that we can get parts as well as pictures of the drive line and hangers.

Any and all help would be appreciated.

mad murdock · August 26, 2012, 04:38:34 PM

Does he have the driveline brakes intact? There is a brake band right off the main trans, a short shaft to the transfer case, then a shaft to the front axle from the xfer case, and one from the xfer case back to the rear diff, with another brake on rear driveline as it comes out of the xfer case. The brakes are handle operated(hand) and there are no carrier bearings on the front or rear lines.

Mickey72 · August 27, 2012, 10:24:59 PM

This seems to be a little different the transfer case is bolted to the aft rear end. He said it has a long shaft from the transmission to the transfer case and another long shaft from the transfer case to the front rear end. It looks like he is just missing the splined shaft with the yoke that goes onto the front pinion shaft.

He does have the hand brake assembly.

He told me it is the front ring and pinion that is bad. One front axel is missing and the bearing and bearing cones are missing.

He is wondering if this machine is actually a 10 and not a 15.

He was also wondering where the gas tank should be located. It is currently above the winch and it looks like it is not the original spot.

Does anyone have a copy of a tree farmer manual. My dad said he would pay for a copy of one if someone is has one available.

Just to let you know I am living in CT and my dad is in Minnesota since he is not that quick on the computer I am helping him out.

thenorthman · August 27, 2012, 11:45:54 PM

Yup I'm new here... Any way contacted Garrett a few months ago their are still Making/have in stock a few parts Mostly the Planetary and transfer case stuff, and if'n I remember right Gearamatic parts... Rockford axles are off the old wwII duece and a half trucks should be able to find nos or new parts for them, If not a Machine shop worth thier salt could help you out

mad murdock · August 28, 2012, 01:48:47 AM

Any way you can post a pic of the machine? That way we could really offer a lot more meaningful advice. The model and serial #'s on the machine are located on the left side frame rail near the battery location, on the top surface, just behind where the front guard bolts down on that he left side of the machine.

Mickey72 · August 29, 2012, 06:58:07 PM

I am trying to post more pics but it seems I am running into problems.

I will try again later.

Mickey72 · August 29, 2012, 07:20:01 PM

Ok it worked this time.

Note: the gas tank behind the operator's seat. We are wondering where the original one goes. Also not one axel shaft is missing from the pile of stuff for the front rear end. We are not sure if we are missing the splined yoke that connects the drive line to the front pinion

mad murdock · August 29, 2012, 09:15:39 PM

Good job on the pics! Looks like a model 10 to me. John W is way more versed on these than am I. The differentials should be Rockwell, same units that were standard issue on the deuce and a half. If you have the old drive lines, any drive line shop should be able to fix you right up. Nothing special.

mad murdock · August 29, 2012, 09:19:38 PM

Original gas tank should be under the seat,(it is the seat foundation). Fellow forumite Redlaker1 recently got done fixing up a model 10 Garrett, use the forum search tool to find the thread.

John Woodworth · August 30, 2012, 12:45:17 AM

That is a mid 60's 10, as for the rear ends 60 through earlt 70 1.5 ton Ford truck however your gear ratio is if I rember right 8.39 to 1. As for the drivelines upper trans to top of chain box, lower pinion to pinion be sure to check that there is clearance on the slipsplline when it is turned against the stops,too long and it binds either the trans which will snap the tail shaft, happened to me because of a machine shop foul up. 1.5 ton Ford slipyokes and U-joints.

thecfarm · August 30, 2012, 07:36:56 AM

Now that is a BIG puzzle to put together. Good luck to you. I've will keep following this. Hope you keep posting on your progress.

Mickey72 · August 30, 2012, 05:04:03 PM

Thanks for the info I will pass it on to my dad.

One question that comes to mind if the gas tank is located under the seat where is the battery located. It is currently under the seat

twobears · August 30, 2012, 08:54:34 PM

seeing how the gas tank is mounted up high i have to say something..in 1996 i borrowed a homebuilt skidder from a friend it had a ford straight 6 gas motor and the gas tank was mounted the same as this one is.one morning i went out and tryed to start it so i could work.when,it fired it blowup right in my face.the base on the motor was full of gas.
when,i parked the skidder at the end of the day it had atleast a half a tank of gas after it blow up the tank was bone dry.i burned my face,hands,arms and chest.we figure the float in the carb stuck and let the gas all drain into the motor because the tank was mounted high.

John Woodworth · August 30, 2012, 10:58:21 PM

Original batterys were long narrow 12 volt mtd. left front under the generator, I use a smaller 12volt, just have to loosen generator and move it up for a little more room but it is enough to start it, he may concider changing to a alternator and add a electric fuel pump before the main pump, sure helps when you run out of gas. Do take the fenders off, those are home made and look to be a chore to get in and out. Motor run?
Have all 4 tires? Take care off them because there is nothing on the market other than 12.00x28 which on that rim brings it down to a 10.00 which is the correct size, you have to be a little more careful as they don't have the plys of skidder tires.

John Woodworth · August 30, 2012, 11:09:18 PM

One more thing, the original gas tank which was the actual seat foundation mtd. flat to the frame and has a half circle ( about 6'' across in the middle frt. to rear for clearance of the upper drive line so keep that in mind when mounting the tank. the winch controll should be mounted on the other side behind the blade control.

mad murdock · August 31, 2012, 03:30:15 PM

More on the battery, You can get the style that fits under the gen/alternator, on the left had side next to the side frame from NAPA. It is a commercial battery, but they should have it for you. I am on the 2nd one since I have purchased my model 15A in 2006. They are a pretty strong battery. Will be a real nice machine once it is up and going! Keep the pics flowing as the progress comes along.

SBeange · September 05, 2012, 08:30:00 AM

Mickey72

I also have pics of a Can Car Tree Farmer with the fuel tank located the same as yours.

However, I have also seen one powered with a Ford engine, with the fuel tank located immediately above the engine, under the shroud, much like with the Ford agricultural tractors of the time.

Keeping posting pics of your progres.

Scott

lumberjack48 · September 05, 2012, 02:47:35 PM

I had a 1966 Ford Bronco with a 170, 6 cylinder, 105 hp.

This motor had 2 oil pumps, one in the front for going down hill, one in the back for going up hill. The oil pan had two reservoirs, in the front of the oil pan, and one in the rear of the pan, it held 8 quarts of oil.

I think this would be a sweet little motor for a skidder, project

I had a 68, C4 TF with a 172 Ford gas 4 cylinder, 68 hp