Mill blockage

[bandmiller2]

Bobcat skidsteer with a flat rear tire is blocking my log loading area.Tree crews are all laidoff for the winter.Looking for someone to fix it all I saw was my own reflection in the window.Those are some stiff tires its tubeless and off the bead.I think it just got low and twisted enough to leak around the bead.Heading over today with a ratchet strap murpheys tire soap and sledge hammer.I'll clean the bead good and hopefully be able to push the bead out with the strap. I don't have the hangers to use the old ether and spark trick on someone elses machine in someone elses barn.Any handy tricks.??? Frank C.

[Jim_Rogers]

I have used a ratchet strap to help set the bead. What I did was what I saw a fellow at a tire store do once. He took the valve stem out so he could put a lot of air in fast. Once the bead was set he removed the air chuck from the valve stem body and quickly put in the valve stem center, before all the air leaked out.

I have done that and it worked for me.

Good luck with your repairs.

Jim Rogers

[julio]

this is my first post and maybe this will help pull value core put strap on it tighten it down   and if you got two air hoses let one dump air in value stem  and other one dumping air where it is leaking at around the rim  the idea thing would be to have  a cheata tank and dump a whole tank of air in at one time.

[Jim_Rogers]

julio:
Welcome to the forum.

Jim Rogers

[sandhills]

Welcome to the forum julio, I agree with the bead cheata.
I built a bead cheata out of a little 5 gallon air bomb and some 2" pipe and a hole saw, the valve costs enough otherwise it wasn't bad (my nephew and I had a lot of fun with mom's potatoes before I squished the end of the pipe down  ;D).  Those skid steer tires are STIFF though, they can be a real bugger, let us know what you do.

[shelbycharger400]

I use a ratchet strap!
dont forget to clean the bead!

[thecfarm]

I HATE tubeless tires on tractors and stuff like that. If you really work them,you will have trouble.I know it's not yours,but I wonder if you took it off and warmed the tire up,would that help some?

[Magicman]

Welcome to the Forestry Forum,    julio.   

How about starting an intro thread and telling us about yourself and your sawing/logging/woodworking, or whatever interest.

[julio]

thanks mm I will  sit down sometime in near furture and do just that. also i have traveled to.

[julio]

 

  

  

  

  this is a cheata tank i made 15 or 16 years ago it has worked fine  and was inexpense comprared to to what you pay for a factory bulid one  a portable air tank two pieces of metal 2 inch pipe a 2 inch valve  and 1/4 inch vavle and quick coulpeing for air hose

[julio]

i finally figured the pic part out now

[YellowHammer]

If you haven't already got it fixed, heres what I would do.

I always use a clip on tire chuck attached to the air hose, one that has a lever that will lock on the tire valve stem so it doesn't have to be held on by hand.  The inner workings of the tire chuck need to be removed so that it is full open, with no restriction.  In this configuration, when its hooked to the air compressor or portable air tank, air is always coming out, and coming out fast.

Also remove the valve stem center from the tire to increase airflow.

If you cant get the tire off the skidsteer use a jack, forklift, loader, etc to get the flat tire off the ground and let it try to resume its natural round shape, which will help flex the bead back into place. 

Use lots of bead sealer, clip on the tire chuck, open the hand valve on your air compressor and you should be dumping the air tank directly into the tire.  It'll either seat fast or you will see where the bead is not seating and leaking air.  Then use whatever you can to get the bead to catch by rocking the tire, tightening the strap, hitting with a hammer, etc. 

Once the bead catches, close the compressor valve to not to over pressurize the tire and reinsert the tire valve.

Hope this helps
YH

[levans]

ether works well for setting a bead on a tire but you have to be very careful and not over do it.   

[davey duck]

Hi ,I have 14x17.5 tires on my skid steer ,just check the in side and put a new tube in it ,that solves a lot of trouble,you might have to pump it up again after the air between the tire and tube leaves.14 ply tires are too hard to seat beads on when they are cold .David

[Beaudeane]

Some the guys that change big trk tires are on call on weekends & have equiptment in their service trk. If u know where one parks locally, offer him a little cash to reseat your tire. Local co-op or tractor supply may know of a guy that does it or may have a board with cards posed so u could call one.... If u can't get it done with a strap.... May also try setting the rim horizontally on a small bucket so only the rim touching the bucket... It can only leak at top that way... The ether trick works but is much more dangerous than a cheeta tank if it won't take air that way... Good luck & be careful either way

[sandhills]

julio that's just like mine other than for some odd reason I put the pipe coming out the end instead of the side  :, kinda screws up the balance of it all.  Did you launch any potatoes out of it  ;D?

[julio]

i made that one so you could put it up against your hip and help hold it when you shoot it and no i havent  shot taters :new_year:

[bandmiller2]

Thanks guys,almost had it this morning but know just what to bring next time.The tire chuck they had was a hold on and wouldn't work with the tire valve out,I got one that will.Cut a good load of firewood, morning wasen't wasted.  Frank C. PS owner said nail it with ether if I want.

[wdncno]

When using ether I have found it works well to spray a long wick of ether so you are a safe distance away when you light it.

[nas]

Be careful when you use a ratchet strap.  A friend of mine fixed a skid steer tire that way and the strap broke as he was filling the tire.  The buckle hit him in the face and knocked him out cold.  His co-workers thought he was dead!!  Thankfully he was ok.

Nick

[NWP]

I deal with this a lot.  Most of my ideas have already been mentioned.  Jack it up, pull the valve core, put the strap around it, and take the air chuck off the hose.  Use the valve stem to depress the ball valve in the air chuck.  This will get a lot more air flow.  I don't have a bead blaster but I've thought about making one.  I'll one up the ether trick.  I use acetylene.  About 4 seconds worth of flow through the torch tip.  Then I use a handheld propane torch to ignite it.  Bigger tires take a little more acetylene.  I know this isn't the safest thing but it works.

[customsawyer]

Use the ether. To light it step back and light a rolled up newspaper then just throw it on the bead of the tire. Be ready with the air hose. ;D

[ladylake]

 I used a 20# propane tank with a 1 1/2 ball valve, works most of the time but skidloader tires are tough.  Steve

[red oaks lumber]

i call the tire repair place.

[danreed76]

In the past I have packed heavy grease or soap in the gap between the tire bead and the rim.  Works great when the tire is cold or stiff. Learned it from an old timer a few years back.  He said he picked the trick when ether left him with two black eyes, a busted tire, and no eyebrows.

It holds the air in until the bead seats, then you can clean the grease off the outside of the tire.