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Started by jedc43, April 25, 2013, 07:58:42 PM

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wolfen

what he said  a spacer is the way to go, I was always taught when I was a kid to NEVER put two logs on any spliter or one could fly up and knock ya for a loop, and trust me if those old guys in NW Arkansas said it it MUST be the Gods honest truth

plt

  I bought my Huskee 22 T used. I found it a little south of me for $750. 2 years later and about 15 cords I can't fuss at all. At times I've had some really junky stuff on it and thing would bog down, but it kept pushing till it got it split. It's never fail to start, or do anything I've asked it to do. But I have wondered on some of those slow downs in the bad stuff, when it will push the base plate off. The stress there has to be enormous. But I love mine. Probably the best $750 I've ever spent for the sake of a 70 years old abused back. :D
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plt
It is kicking down to the second stage of the pump when it will "bog down".  In time, you may see some effects of that extra force but just reinforce those parts when needed.

After 28 years, my splitter has remolded a few places as a result. But no failure yet.
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wolfen

Ok guys I appreciate all the comments about Speeco's due to current financial problems I might not be able to afford the Northstar besides, my mind got changed when I read the research on the two Northstar says max log diameter is 16 inches, so I asked them they said the max is 16 inches the Huskee says max log diameter is ANY.
I still prefer the Honda engine over the Briggs, but I have found only 3 or 4 bad reviews about the 22 ton with the briggs, but either way Honda or Briggs mi choice has changed to the Huskee, unless or course I can find a local Gravley dealer :) I really like the idea of everything up front and the wood split in back, but at the same time at least the Huskee has a Full I beam

hrhunter

I bought a Speeco 22 ton in Oct. 2012.  I have had zero issues with it outside of hard starting when cold.  It has the Briggs engine and I have thought about putting a bigger gas tank on it as well.  I have a 5 gallon tank from a mower that would work great.  It has split anything I have tried so far. 

wolfen

Even if the Briggs engine goes on oa Huskee or Sppeco if I buy one, its gonna be easy to change and easy to ind a replacement and cheaper than a horizontal shaft engine, I just hate spending money on something that should last longer than my lawnmower engines do.
If somebody could tell me honestly that the log splitter Briggs is better than the lawnmower Briggs it would definitely set my mind at easy

beenthere

Have had a Briggs 8hp horizontal engine on my wood splitter since Jan. 1985. Except for mice chewing on the ignition module wire, that is the ONLY thing that has gone wrong in all those years. Starts on the first pull choke on, and I don't run it WOT.
Have logged 801 hours as of yesterday. Change oil every 50 hours.
I've been very impressed with this engine all along. And there were a good number of years that I wasn't impressed with Briggs engines. This one has certainly changed my mind.
Wolfen
Where are you located? Pls go to your profile and give us a leg up where you are.  thanks
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thecfarm

I have a Briggs OHV 6.5 hp on my splitter. brought it new around 2001. I have used it ALOT. I split alot of big stuff. The only complaint I have is the way it starts when it's below 40°,which is when I use it the most. Summer time a 5 year old can start it. No reason to pull it hard,just a real easy pull and it starts. But cold out,it's a bear. I have put synthetic oil in it,which has helped,but I still have to crank on it. I just keep using my magentic heater on it and I put an old blanket on top of the motor to keep the heat in and it will start like it does on the 4th of July.  ;D
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wolfen

Thanks guys that helps a lot cause I really need a good log spliter, and all I have to go by here is you tube videos and personnel reviews, knowing a Briggs 6.5 will last that long sets my mind at ease cause the 22 ton is probably all I'll be able to afford and it comes with the Briggs 6.5

Beenthere I'll update my profile here in a minute as soon as I get done with this post


:edit: ok guys I just updated my profile, and on the map I pined my location down to my house :)
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clww

You're close to me in VB. I live off Holland Road, just Past Dam Neck, same side as the paintball park.

Welcome to the Forestry Forum. :)
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Knute

I have a 1981 speeco. Only thing replaced is a valve in the B&S engine. Has split about 200 full cords.

Yatt

I bought the 28ton Speeco 3 months ago and have done about 16 cord.  The 5 position choke on the B/S starts on the first pull.  (it does reside in a heated garage though).

I haven't timed it with a watch, but it seems like it will run almost 3 hours on a tank. I've never ran it out of gas yet, you will get tired before you do.
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wolfen

Quote from: clww on December 06, 2013, 06:45:56 PM
You're close to me in VB. I live off Holland Road, just Past Dam Neck, same side as the paintball park.

Welcome to the Forestry Forum. :)

I know exactly where you live then, you've probably seen m driving down Holland too, in my city truck, I'm the one with the galvanized home made fence tool rack and the heavy yellow trailer behind me. and trust me I'm not going 45 down that road cause im an A**, that  Chevy is made in China so I'm scared to go 50 :)

Oh I checked TSC's website, the 28 ton with the Honda eng is not onm there anymore and I can;t afford the 35 ton so I'm probally gonna have the 22 ton, but after some reading I have found that the Honda engines might not be a good as I thought,a small engine mechanic told m the internals of them are sometimes subject to breaking, so that makes them no better or worse than the Briggs.

sawguy21

Honda has two series, GC and GX. The GX is arguably one of the best, it has set the standard for the industry. The GC is a lower cost consumer throw away unit which is what will be found on entry level splitters.
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thecfarm

wolfen,I would call TSC and see if they had one. never know. I just looked at those splitter. Seem like one was $1000 than the 35 ton was $2000. They had the I beam that ran the full length too.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

wolfen

I've called and went over there, they can order one but all they have in stock is the 22 ton, you see this is a mostly urban area so log spliters ain't exactly a must have

redprospector

Wow, maybe I just got a lemon but I bought a Huskee 22 ton from TSC a couple of years ago and it was a total piece of junk!
They told me who was the "authorized warranty service center". Those folks had no idea that they were the chosen ones for SpeeCo in my area.  :D
I went ahead and re-built my 26 year old Duerr splitter while I was waiting on someone to decide to do something with the Huskee. When I got it back it was still a weak kneed piece of junk, so I sold it to my neighbor for $200 less than I gave for it (I don't think he likes me much anymore).
I have absolutely nothing good to say about these splitter's, and would not recommend them to anyone.

I don't know, maybe I just expect a little more quality, and customer service for my hard earned money.

Andy
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

wolfen

If you don't like it because of eth engine, I saw a you tube video that makes me want the bigger one, but thanks to the wife needing back surgery, bills and other stuff I'm gonna end up with the 22 ton and the 6.75 Briggs , so thankfully I know engines and modifications enough to maybe change it to a bigger one if I need to.

upsnake

Sorry if this is a stupid question but..
Why, other then to be Tim Taylor, does it need a bigger engine?
I have the 22 T speeco and it splits everything I ask it to and doesn't use much fuel?

I am not trying to say that it shouldn't just not seeing the benefits???

kwatvrider

I borrow a friend's TSC Huskee 22t w/ Briggs engine often. I have never had an issue w/ it. I think between the owner & I, we have put over 100 cords of wood through it and it runs w/o a problem. I will buy the same model when I can afford one myself.
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thecfarm

kwatvrider,welcome to the forum.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Yatt

Quote from: sawguy21 on December 07, 2013, 12:32:23 PM
Honda has two series, GC and GX. The GX is arguably one of the best, it has set the standard for the industry. The GC is a lower cost consumer throw away unit which is what will be found on entry level splitters.

Excellent point,

People get blinded by the Honda name, the GX is excellent.

The GC is probably no better than a B/S.  I have always not held B/S in high regard even though I have never really had problems with one.  I guess kind of a mental image type of thing.  The 5 position choke IMHO is much better than the ones with no choke and a primer.
288 XP Lite
372XPG
562XP
357XP
550XPG
346XP
Dolmar 7900
028 Super totally rebuilt and ported
Speeco 28ton splitter
Silvey 510, Oregon 511AX & Tecomec grinder

M_S_S

I have a Speeco splitter with the throw away Honda on it. My experience with the throw away Honda and the Briggs is that you will throw the Briggs away long before the cheap Honda. Ed
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wolfen

Quote from: upsnake on December 10, 2013, 07:37:19 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question but..
Why, other then to be Tim Taylor, does it need a bigger engine?
I have the 22 T speeco and it splits everything I ask it to and doesn't use much fuel?

I am not trying to say that it shouldn't just not seeing the benefits???

I'd change it to a bigger engine if the original either blew,quit, or didn't make enough pressure to split what I get.
I've seen you tube videos with the 6.75 on the Huskee and it splits just about anything, which is a plus to me because liek I said before due to financial requirements that's the only one I can affo9rd

upsnake

Ah gotcha. That makes sense.

Ya i have only had a handful of pieces ever that it would "wouldn't" split, and I just backed it out and moved the wedge to a different piece of wood and it powered through it.

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