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Wildlife Food Crops
« on: October 27, 2013, 07:17:07 PM »
We have no White Oak acorns this year probably due to our April rains.  Since this year's Red Oak acorns were set last year, it will be interesting to see what we have.  Hopefully it will not be a lean year because acorns are a major food source for our wildlife.

The wildlife is really whopping my planted food plots.  There were about a dozen deer and also a flock of turkeys in the plot visible from the Cabin yesterday evening.  One very nice mature 10 point.   ;D
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Re: Wildlife Food Crops
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 08:40:23 PM »
No question about it, no acorns means heavy field usage.  Our mast is very isolated as well, some spots covered in white oak acorns, and others, where other ridges and bottoms nothing.  The rains did help the browse, but as for mast, spotty,    david
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Re: Wildlife Food Crops
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 07:00:20 AM »
We have a lot of acorns w and r , but they're small in size this year.
We did have a very wet spring.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2013, 07:16:07 AM »
We've also had a pretty poor acorn crop this year.  Been seeing lots of deer in the bean fields and cut corn fields, but it's going to get hard on them when those food sources eventually go away
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 07:50:34 AM »
Deer are absolutely eating our soybean crop up along the edges of fields. The bucks are fighting and leaving circles of trampled soybeans too. No one wants to kill the does, the hunters are after the 'super bucks'; they have their cameras, their feeders, their food plots and all [hunters] have four wheel drives ripping and rutting our roads to impassable for our grain tucks. We have had to cart out each and every bushel from up to a mile and a half to the levee.

This has been a hardship on us, tough on our equipment and added labor fatigue, you will not find a conservation officer near. This adjacent area is USDA privately held Wetlands...need I say more? Yes, I will. Now, according to a news release, in a Missouri publication, this so-called "wetland" is being returned to original swamp, fields of river cane are being planted and cultivated in hopes of making good swamp rabbit and cane-brake rattlesnake habitat. Honestly, if the tax paying public knew what the millions of tax dollars are being wasted for..... >:(

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Re: Wildlife Food Crops
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 10:06:20 AM »
Im still surrounded by standing cornfields. One of my new plots have been hit hard (chickory) but no stands near it, i could put in a ground blind but not my favorite way to hunt.

This morning there was a news bulletin on tv about lots of deer vehicle collisions so be careful when driving. The rut is on here in northern Ohio, i need to take time now to maybe get one.

Trail cams have spotted several bucks but nothing like what MM has down south.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2013, 10:29:38 PM »
You guys in the south have it made , shooting deer over bate, up here you can't do that.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 10:48:28 PM »
Guess my garden counts for a food plot???  :D  They only go in when it's dark.
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Re: Wildlife Food Crops
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 08:11:19 AM »
You guys in the south have it made , shooting deer over bate, up here you can't do that. 
Not in Mississippi.  Probably Texas is the only state that allows any hunting over bait.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2013, 08:43:30 AM »
Same here in VA, that's a big no no
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2013, 08:57:20 AM »
Michigan you are allowed to hunt over bait if you want.

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2013, 12:30:19 PM »
Well sitting in a tree stand in front of an apple  or acorn tree is ok  :D :D
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2013, 02:33:55 PM »
Count Western part of Virginia in the "NO" mast crop this year also... The deer are already hungry, eating everything in site around the house.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2013, 08:05:28 PM »
I started thinking about the acorn crop when I saw our dismal Pecan crop.   :-\
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 09:14:47 PM »
 

 
You guys in the south have it made , shooting deer over bate, up here you can't do that. 
Not in Mississippi.  Probably Texas is the only state that allows any hunting over bait.
We can in Louisiana. ::)

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 11:24:29 PM »
    We can't even hunt bears over bait, or use hounds, something I don't disagree with.

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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2013, 11:25:46 PM »
We had a heavy white oak acorn crop only on top the ridges. I was surprised as the acorns fell later than usual and a reason a big buck stayed over in the white oak grove and wouldn't come past my stand. Doe + acorns, what ever else would a buck want?

But this time of winter I begin watching the post oaks upon the higher south & west facing areas. The PO acorns seem variable as when they fall and to last much longer than white oak. Squirrels and turkey can tattle tale where the best acorns are and, with the recent heavy snow and ice, the critters have to be hungry...muzzle loader season should be a blast!


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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2013, 12:30:11 AM »
we had tons of apples and tons of beech nuts don't know about the rest don't have any oak with in 2miles of here

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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2013, 04:37:05 AM »
The second Friday of every month, (today), I volunteer to sit as a temporary judge for the "Traffic Calendar" for those people cited for infractions, (they don't trust me to handle cases where I can send people to jail).  Probably a good thing.   ;)

A number of "Fish and Wildlife" tickets also get thrown in.  Today I had my first "deer ticket" of the season.  Reading this thread, I thought it was pretty coincidental.  The officer ticketed the hunter for "baiting" deer, which is no-no here in California.  According to the officer, he heard a shot and upon investigating, found the hunter dressing out a legal buck who had been eating apples that had been placed on the ground as bait.  The hunter's defense; he has been hunting there for years, as it is an old abandoned cabin/homestead that has a couple of apple trees.  The officer cited that while there are a couple of "half dead" old fruit trees, there were no apples on the trees, and that the apples he found on the ground were large and of a modern variety.  The officer admitted that he did not see the hunter place the apples in the area.  When I asked the officer if he found any stickers, stamps or other imprinted marks on the apples, he looked confused and said no.  He really didn't seem to understand when I tried to point out to him that without such identifying evidence proving that the apples had been purchased, that there was no way I could find beyond a reasonable doubt that the apples constituted an illegal bait.  He kept focusing on the idea that the apples he found could not have come from the trees, even though he could not identify the varietal of the apple tree, nor even the varietal of the apples on the ground.  He also didn't seem to like my sense of humor when I mentioned that while I am sure he deals with a lot of "fruitcakes", that I doubted he would meet the criteria for a state certified expert on "fruit". 

In the end, I found the defendant Not Guilty.  I doubt the matter is over however, as the officer also confiscated the deer as an "illegal take".  While apparently the head may still be frozen in an evidence locker, the officer believes the rest of the deer was disposed of.  Incredulous to me that an agency would dispose of any portion of such evidence, especially when the propriety of confiscating such is still at issue.  So I am not sure my order to release the carcass to the hunter is going to solve the situation.  I wonder what the fair market value is for a mature black tail deer?

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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2013, 06:18:19 AM »
I don't live in CA nor have I ever shot a black tail deer( but) how do you put a price on some thing like that    to the hunter it could be priceless  its all about the memories  jmop


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