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Started by red oaks lumber, January 23, 2014, 07:49:45 PM

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fat olde elf

I sort of figured that you were doing well, I just didn't know just how well !!! Great look at your operation.  I really enjoyed our personal messages and a phone chat.
Thanks for posting !!!!! Easy does it.
Cook's MP-32 saw, MF-35, Several Husky Saws, Too Many Woodworking Tools, 4 PU's, Kind Wife.

rbhunter

Thanks for the pictures and tour I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to your farm tour also.
"Said the robin to the sparrow, I wonder why it must be, these anxious human beings rush around and worry so?"
"Said the sparrow to the robin, Friend I think it must be, they have no heavenly father, such as cares for you and me."
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21incher

Hudson HFE-21 on a custom trailer, Deere 4100, Kubota BX 2360, Echo CS590 & CS310, home built wood splitter, home built log arch, a logrite cant hook and a bread machine. And a Kubota Sidekick with a Defective Subaru motor.

petefrom bearswamp

Kubota 8540 tractor, FEL bucket and forks, Farmi winch
Kubota 900 RTV
Polaris 570 Sportsman ATV
3 Huskies 1 gas Echo 1 cordless Echo vintage Homelite super xl12
57 acres of woodland

giant splinter

Now that is what I call a very nice shop layout, very clean as well .......... Red Oaks is a tough act to follow.
Thanks for the tour and looking forward to the farm tour in the future.  smiley_clapping smiley_clapping
roll with it

schmism

would you be willing to talk frank about priceing?

Ive been trying to mold up some replacement molding for my 100yo farm house.   

do you offer finger grove connected material (for painting)   
do you mold MDF?

I had a good family friend that ran a millwork in Memphis 10-15 years ago.   I remember talking to him about molding priceing.   If memory serves it was $XX per inch of molding cutter, plus setup cost then a price per foot.  with extra fee if you didnt buy over a 1000 LF of molding..

do you profile grind your own cutters?

Did you acquire all your machines used from old mill works or did you buy new?
Do you have a sharper were you might make door blanks etc?

I didnt see mention of a saw mill... Do you just buy rough sawn material from other sawers?   
Do you purchase dried material or do you have a kiln to dry yourself?

Have you been doing it long?   It seems like CL has been full of old machines from millworks that closed up in the past 10 years.  Have you found it hard to stay busy especially during the downturn?
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red oaks lumber

schmism
i'll do my best to answer your questions in the order you asked.
i have no problem discussing pricing but, need more info first
we don't offer finger jointing but, i can give recommendations. why the need for finger joint?
i have never tried moulding mdf, it might work
the cost is you pay for the knives (i keep when done) and then its just a board foot cost after that.
i don't grind any profiles inhouse i have a outside source do my profiles. i cant justify spending upwards of $50 grand for a good grinder.
all my machines were bought new, with the exception of the rip saw..
i do own a shaper but, that is dedicated to a specific product so, the answer is no i cant run door parts. if you google that in your area i would think you could locate someone that does.
we saw and kiln dry our own wood as well as others. the mill is a wm lt40 hyd. and the kiln is a nyle  15,000 b.f. capacity
i started the business in 1998
this last one is always interesting.
my type of niche market is always changing, trendy, every 5 yrs what was is in is out and so on.knowing how to be in the front of trends is key to staying on top . i use the magic 8 ball for answers. :D no just kidding. business has remained very steady before ,during, and since the great explosion but, we arent doing the same type of products today as we had been doing pre 2008 so, driving the bus is always smarter than being run over by it. :) i hope i answered your questions or came close, if more is needed just ask.
the experts think i do things wrong
over 18 million b.f. processed and 7341 happy customers i disagree

WDH

Now you have went and done it.  You cannot come and see me now, because I would be too embarrassed to show you my little set-up after seeing yours  :).
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

red oaks lumber

remember danny, size dosen't matter :D :D
the experts think i do things wrong
over 18 million b.f. processed and 7341 happy customers i disagree

POSTON WIDEHEAD

The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

WDH

Well, at least I could BBQ something.  I got plenty of pecan ( smiley_devil)  ;D. 
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

red oaks lumber

as long as its not like devils spit bbq sauce, this old dog will be wimpering like a puppy ;D
the experts think i do things wrong
over 18 million b.f. processed and 7341 happy customers i disagree

WDH

I would whip up some Danjonit's Famous Sawmill BBQ Sauce. 

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,52866.20.html

Maybe Jake could bring some meat  :D.
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

red oaks lumber

some how i dont trust you fellas :D what kind of meat you suppose?
the experts think i do things wrong
over 18 million b.f. processed and 7341 happy customers i disagree

WDH

If it looks like a skinned cat, it is probably coon  :D.
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: WDH on January 25, 2014, 10:26:41 PM
If it looks like a skinned cat, it is probably coon  :D.

That's why the 'Ol Timers left a foot on the critter when they set it on the dinner table.
Some people had to have proof of what they were about to eat.  :D
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

Small Slick

Red Oaks, I have been past Spooner hundreds of times myself. I will make it a priority to swing past your shop sometime. Thanks for your input on some of my posts.

John

Peter Drouin

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on January 25, 2014, 10:35:08 PM
Quote from: WDH on January 25, 2014, 10:26:41 PM
If it looks like a skinned cat, it is probably coon  :D.

That's why the 'Ol Timers left a foot on the critter when they set it on the dinner table.
Some people had to have proof of what they were about to eat.  :D


Boy you southern guys have to leave feet on your meal so you know your not eating cat  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :o
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

WDH

Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5-111, Kubota L2501, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: WDH on January 25, 2014, 10:43:59 PM
And you thought grits was bad  :D.

Oh I'm rolling now..... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

1woodguy

Nice shop!
   I used to dream about a shop like that,,,and one night it disappeared
Years go by and then someone posts pics of my shop
:D
    I wish!
Experience is a rough teacher first you get the test later comes the lesson!

red oaks lumber

the experts think i do things wrong
over 18 million b.f. processed and 7341 happy customers i disagree

CHill8903

Red Oaks, very nice operation. How do you market your flooring?  Is it wholesaled or sold directly to the end user?

red oaks lumber

welcome chill8903
all the floor we sell goes to the end user. i don't see the need to sell wholesale when we don't keep inventory of flooring.
the nice thing about making our own products and making product using other peoples wood is there is always fill in work. for example if we are waiting for a kiln load for a specific job, we'll  bring in a customers job or jobs and keep on rolling.
scheduling it all can be alittle hairy at times :) some start out in log form, others might just be dry only, or dry, mould, end match. because everyone wants their wood now :D
every bundle of wood has a date, name , species written on the side that way its always idenified

 
the experts think i do things wrong
over 18 million b.f. processed and 7341 happy customers i disagree

CHill8903

I see.  I have a similar operation here(sawmill,kiln,molder)that Ive built up over the last few years working at it part time.  I finally have the pieces in place to expand the flooring end of things.  I also process customer's logs/lumber, however thats a much smaller part of the business than rough lumber sales and flooring/panelling.  Word of mouth is picking up and craigslist has done well for me locally, I was wondering how you advertise/draw customers, If you dont mind me asking?  I understand what you mean about a good product selling itself, when I can get a customer here to see samples in person, it generally results in a sale.

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