Sawmill Shed

[customsawyer]

I don't know if I recommend a edger. They are very addictive. If you build it we might be able to find a edger over a little west of here.

[stanwelch]

That might be like kickin the hornet nest!   :D :D :D

[stanwelch]

Took a couple weeks off but back at it again.  I'll be setting roof trusses next but decided to prep roof deck boards first.  I've been air drying boards I cut last year.

  this is the first of four stacks to process.  I'll need about 200 eight foot boards to cover roof.   Thanks to my grandson for his help.

  

  I visited WDH last February to see his impressive operation.  His planer shed setup inspired me to buy this Grizzly spiral head planer.  It works really well.  Now if I only had an edger...

[Kbeitz]

I was a Grizzly tech for 5 years...
Love the new Southbend line of tools...

[Ox]

Cool!  A little inside information from Kbeitz!  With the popularity of Grizzly tools on this forum I wish they were a sponsor.

[WDH]

Sweet!

[Magicman]

Now if I only had an edger...

One never knows when one is not looking.   

[Kbeitz]

Part of my mill is made with Grizzlys stuff...
I also use a lot of there tools...

picture is Grizzly band saw wheels.



 

[stanwelch]

Figured out how to install trusses.  Used the cart I made to set the plates and the help of my neighbor.  We placed 8 trusses on the tie beams and then tipped the starter end truss up to the brace.  I used Simpson hurricane brackets to tie the truss to the plate.  I want to make sure roof stays in place during high winds because the shed will open sided 

  

  

 

[Bruno of NH]

Looks good
Make sure you follow the bracing schedule on the trusses
They need to be braced well for snow and wind loads
Jim/Bruno

[Magicman]

How about editing and turn that first picture in Reply #108. 

[stanwelch]

Magic -- I'm not sure I know what you mean.  The first picture looks just like I took it.

Bruno -- I don't have a formal bracing schedule, but I plan to nail boards between the braces to tie them together.  Also, I will nail Simpson metal diagonal bracing straps following the Simpson guide.
Do you have any suggestions that I do additionally.  I have not installed trusses since I built trusses for our garage in 1973.  Things are probably better now.  :D

[fishfighter]

What are going to use as roofing?

[stanwelch]

I'm going to put 1 x 8s on the trusses then felt paper then metal.

[drobertson]

Crazy good stuff there man, you will be glad for the boards, open metal and rain is just about deafening.   Your shed looks great, lots of planning and work for sure, 

[beenthere]

stanwelch
The first pic to us is upside-down.  But likely you are viewing it on your iPad or similar, and that device will turn an upside-down pic the right way.
PC computers don't do that.

Not sure what the answer is... as in another thread, the pics are at 90°.  All in the way the iPad or camera was held to take the pics. I think....

[stanwelch]

I opened this thread with my PC and can now see that the first picture is upside down.  I have always used an iPad to post and view this site. Didn't know that iPad would autocorrect the picture rotation. Sorry :-\
now I need some help.  I can't figure out how to rotate the picture in the post.  Thanks beenthere for the info I'll be sure to check before rotation before posting future pictures.

[beenthere]

You're welcome Stan.
I was guessing a bit as to what has been causing the many pics of members to be side-ways. I had a few that I took with my iPad and saw that they can be rotated in "my gallery".

Try going to your gallery and click on that pic using your PC. When the pic is enlarged, there should be a button below it that says "Crop and Rotate". Once it is right side up, then you'll need to edit that post (I think, but maybe the URL doesn't change and will be ok without editing the post).

Leads me to wonder what tag is on an iPad pic that allows it to know which is up/down.. that the PC cannot know the same thing..??

[Bruno of NH]

I would use 2x4 bracing a strong back run down the middle nailed or screwed to each truss.
An angle brace on each gable end .
W bracing nailed or screwed on top of the bottom cord of the truss on each side.
I used to set up garage packages for a lumber yard and thats how they had us do it for the codes in NH
Jim/Bruno

[stanwelch]

Thanks Bruno for the information.  I plan to incorporate most if not all of these bracing techniques.

I have a question for anyone reading this regarding Roof Board Nail Pattern

I plan to use mostly cottonwood boards to cover the trusses 1x6 to 1x8 by 8 foot.  I will stagger the seam line as I go up the roof.  All of the boards have been air dried from 8 to 10% moisture measured after planing to 7/8" thickness.  Boards are squared and trimmed to size (using my jointer and table saw--thus I can see the advantage of an edger ).  I am going to use other hardwood boards (oak,ash & cherry) on the starter and lower runs because I don't have enough cottonwood dried and I have all these other lower grade boards.  Now the question-- I plan to put the possible cup side down and drive 2 nails about 3" apart near center of the width into each rafter on 24" centers.  The idea is to allow movement with minimum cracking.  Am I on the right track?  Any better way to nail um down?

[WDH]

Remember, wood cups toward the bark.  Kinda counter intuitive. 

[beenthere]

I wouldn't worry about the sheathing boards cracking, but instead nail so the boards stay flat as possible.

Movement of the board with the metal roofing nail is what you don't want much of, as that might elongate the nail hole for a leak.

So I think I'd suggest nailing each board about one inch from the edge, and one in the middle if you think it will reduce a hump from cupping.

[stanwelch]

The boards didn't cup too much during air drying.  I was able to plane the boards flat with 2 to 3 light passes on a side.  Will the boards that cupped during drying cup much after install on the roof?

[beenthere]

Likely not if nailed down.

[stanwelch]

Got half of the trusses up this morning.  I'll finish the bracing on these today and plan to get the other eight up tomorrow.  Thanks to the help from my neighbor, we were able to get them installed in about 2 hours.  Thanks goodness for cool temps and light winds  8)