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Blackgreyhounds

P.S.  My last post is not meant as a criticism of anyone.  It is merely to spark additional research and evaluation of pesticides in general.  There is a HUGE amount of $ riding on the risk-to-benefit ratio of any one product in the markey (e.g. Monsanto's Roundup is in the BILLIONS of dollars annually).  This type of money can clearly skew priorities toward short term gains at the cost of long term environmental damage.  That's just human nature.

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Quote from: Magicman on August 08, 2015, 05:35:37 PM
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martyinmi

I gotta say I'm really liking this Round-Up ready sweet corn. 8)

I've noticed that my digestive system appears to break it down much better than non-Round-Up Ready sweet corn. ;D ;D

I understand that a few of you southern folk might not understand the not-so-hidden message in the above sentence. I'll explain if necessary!(Hint:no floaters)  ;)
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beenthere

Yeah, but she ALWAYS says that...    ;D
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scleigh

Most of the soy bean crops are round up ready seeds.
The corp. that owns round up is serious about protecting their product as well; there have been many lawsuits against folks that harvest the seeds and sell them.
Most farmers around here agree that R.O. is trying to corner the seed market, they have many round up ready seeds already.

IndianaJoe

This is just my two cents worth, and no offence to any one who prefers "non G.M.O." products. The majority of the world is complaining of high food prices, and some are dealing with malnutrition and in some cases starvation. Non G.M.O. seeds are planted and are either going to produce less per acre, or are subject to very labor intensive management. This means higher cost for the producer, and subsequently higher prices at the grocery store or the farmers market. We live in the land of plenty, but not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to afford a nutritious meal for the whole family every day.  This is where "roundup-ready" comes into play. By using glyphosate on our field crops we can double and even triple our yield, thus lowering the cost of producing and handling the crop. This means lower prices at the other end. And to some that means having enough to eat today and living until tomorrow. Once again no offence to those who can afford and do use organic and "non G.M.O."

Raider Bill

Paid $2.00 for 3 ears of Georgia sweet corn yesterday. Have to admit the ears were big and sweet!

 
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Windy_Acres

Quote from: IndianaJoe on August 10, 2015, 09:41:04 AM
This is just my two cents worth, and no offence to any one who prefers "non G.M.O." products. The majority of the world is complaining of high food prices, and some are dealing with malnutrition and in some cases starvation. 

Just curious, when and where was it our ( the US Farmer's ) charter to feed the world, both effectively and affordably. Why do I have to put my health at risk to ensure that someone half way around the world is properly fed, but is really living beyond their means ?

I hear the same BS time and again ( mostly from my neighbors ), " If we dont do GMO and roundup, we cant feed the world " Maybe its time to safely feed the USA, and let the rest of the world feed itself ? Yeah, I know, aint no money in that.. cause that is the real answer.

One other point on this subject, I think "black greyhounds" mentioned it only being used as a per-emrgent, so exposure is " light ". WRONG, it is also used as a post emergent, ie, the name " round up ready " meaning you can hit it with roundup, and its also regularly used on wheat as a preharvest tool to control the harvest date, and it also increase yield for the wheat separates from the chaff easier. Lets talk about a glyphosate " load ".

Different MDs Ive spoke to about this, that deal in Lower GI speculate allot of the population that thinks they are celiac or " gluten intolerant " are most likely glyphosate sensitive.

As far as it being safe, at one point cigarettes where promoted as being safe, and a plethora of food additives, weight loss pills, etc., there are 100,000 people a year in the USA that die from FDA approved drugs, using them as prescribed. 4th largest leading cause of death.

If you believe something is "safe" because the FDA says so, well, then go right ahead.

Back to Glysophate..

QuoteWidely Used Herbicide Linked to Cancer

The World Health Organization's research arm declares glyphosate a probable carcinogen. What's the evidence?

By Daniel Cressey and Nature magazine | March 25, 2015 |


Glyphosate is the world's most widely produced herbicide, by volume. It is used extensively in agriculture and is also found in garden products in many countries.


The cancer-research arm of the World Health Organization last week announced that glyphosate, the world's most widely used herbicide, is probably carcinogenic to humans. But the assessment, by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) in Lyon, France, has been followed by an immediate backlash from industry groups.

On March 23, Robb Fraley, chief technology officer at the agrochemical company Monsanto in St Louis, Missouri, which sells much of the world's glyphosate, accused the IARC of "cherry picking" data. "We are outraged with this assessment," he said in a statement. Nature explains the controversy.

What does the IARC report say?
The IARC regularly reviews the carcinogenicity of industrial chemicals, foodstuffs and even jobs. On March 20, a panel of international experts convened by the agency reported the findings of a review of five agricultural chemicals in a class known as organophosphates. A summary of the study was published in The Lancet Oncology.

Two of the pesticides — tetrachlorvinphos and parathion — were rated as "possibly carcinogenic to humans", or category 2B. Three — malathion, diazinon and glyphosate — were rated as "probably carcinogenic to humans", labelled category 2A.

Why should I care about glyphosate?
Glyphosate is the world's most widely produced herbicide, by volume. It is used extensively in agriculture and is also found in garden products in many countries. The chemical is an ingredient in Monsanto's weedkiller product Roundup, and glyphosate has become more popular with the increasing market share of crops that are genetically engineered to be tolerant to the herbicide.

What evidence is there for a link between glyphosate and cancer?
The IARC review notes that there is limited evidence for a link to cancer in humans. Although several studies have shown that people who work with the herbicide seem to be at increased risk of a cancer type called non-Hodgkin lymphoma, the report notes that a separate huge US study, the Agricultural Health Study, found no link to non-Hodgkin lymphomas. That study followed thousands of farmers and looked at whether they had increased risk of cancer.

But other evidence, including from animal studies, led the IARC to its 'probably carcinogenic' classification. Glyphosate has been linked to tumours in mice and rats — and there is also what the IARC classifies as 'mechanistic evidence', such as DNA damage to human cells from exposure to glyphosate.

Kathryn Guyton, a senior toxicologist in the monographs programme at the IARC and one of the authors of the study, says, "In the case of glyphosate, because the evidence in experimental animals was sufficient and the evidence in humans was limited, that would put the agent into group 2A."

Google the magazine and author if you want to read the rest, not sure if Im allow to post a link on this forum. You can read about the glyphoste for weeks, if you have the time, like the list of countries that will not allow its use as one example. And when "W.H.O." has a problem with it, its pretty bad.

FOOD for thought. Everyone else, enjoy your round up ready corn ! and make friends with an oncologist.. :o

beenthere

If one wants to go along with the WHO, which I don't. ;)

All hype as I see it. Many of these groups want us to be 'fraid of our own shadow. Guess it makes them feel better about themselves if they can cause some kind of panic. We get enough of that with the weather forecasters...  ;D
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Delawhere Jack

Round Up doesn't worry me, it's when they start messing with the genetic structure of plants to make them Round Up resistant that gives me pause. How much testing did they do before bringing this seed to market? 1 year, 2 years, six months? Did they use Guinea Pigs in the lab, or are WE the Guinea Pigs?

Remember, for 30+ years the USDA told ranchers they should feed processed dead cows to their herd for better profitability. Can you say bovine spongiform encephalopathy?

I am NOT a greenie type, or left wing whacko, quite the opposite in fact. But there are some serious issues with the way our food is produced. The long term effects on fertility of the land, the quality of the food, and the commodity nature of production that turns the farmer into a virtual slave working his ash off for a slim margin, or loss.

If you're interested, there are some very interesting videos on YouTube by a farmer named Joel Salatin. He raises cattle, pigs, chickens and rabbits almost exclusively on pasture. Doesn't spent a cent on fertilizer or seed, and makes way more per acre than guys growing commodity crops. Sure, there is more work involved, but his profit margins are way higher.


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