This is life...get use to it.

POSTON WIDEHEAD · December 27, 2015, 10:00:24 PM

sandsawmill14 · December 27, 2015, 10:09:18 PM

i have been fighting this problem for years >:( maybe they need to swap the 2 seasons

:D :D :D

Magicman · December 27, 2015, 10:19:50 PM

The day after Elk season closed.

POSTON WIDEHEAD · December 27, 2015, 10:25:27 PM

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Wudman · February 18, 2016, 07:19:47 PM

My Grandaddy taught me most of what I know about hunting and fishing. He lived through the Depression and hunted for one reason - to put food on the table. He carried a L.C. Smith double. During the general season, the left hand barrel would be loaded with buckshot and the right hand barrel with #4 shot. Squirrel, rabbit, turkey, or deer.....it made no difference.....it would fit in the pot. Once I got big enough to tag along, I was the squirrel shot. They were some wonderful days tagging along with Grandaddy.

Wudman

jtflynn · February 18, 2016, 08:16:48 PM

Could not be more true... :

WV Sawmiller · February 18, 2016, 08:41:49 PM

Wudman,

The Europeans took the double barrel idea even further and made something I have always heard called a Drilling. May have been made in America too but few I have seen were all German or such. My buddy had a 16 gauge version. Was a double barrel with a centerfire rifle underneath. You flipped a switch like a push type safety and it selected the rifle and raised a rear sight. His was rabbit ears but I think others were hammerless. I don't know which trigger activated the rifle or which barrel. Looked like a pretty good idea but it doesn't seem to have lasted so was not that popular overall.

Bark Beetle · February 18, 2016, 09:09:14 PM

That is so true and not in any season everything is everywhere.:D

mart · February 19, 2016, 12:33:25 AM

Drillings are still fairly popular in Europe from what I understand. In some countries the number of firearms one can own is restricted and a drilling (side by side shotgun with a rifle under), cape gun (side by side shogun/rifle), combination gun (shotgun over rifle or rifle over shotgun), and the rare veirling (two shotgun barrels either SxS or O/U coupled with two rifle barrels, often of different chamberings) allows hunters more versatility in one firearm.

This drilling is a Franz Jaeger 16x16x222 Rimmed. It was originally an 8x57 rimmed but was relined at some point before it came to live with me.

You can see there is a slot in front of the hammer and a bar showing in that slot. The selector switches moves that bar into position and a corresponding striker on the inside of the hammer hits that rather than the shotgun striker and fires the rifle barrel. Hammerless drillings work much the same but the parts are hidden internally.

RCBS · February 19, 2016, 05:27:28 AM

https://youtu.be/LZJ9-YMfBX8

WV Sawmiller · February 19, 2016, 08:46:05 AM

Mart,

yes, Europe is much more strict on their hunting regs. My Norwegian daughter (former exchange student who lived with us) and her dad hunt and every year they have to fire 30 rounds in practice then hit a 5" target 5 times at 100 meters with a DNR rep observing. Then their rifle number is listed on their hunting license. If they wanted to hunt with different rifles throughout the season they would have to do the same thing with each gun. They have to show they own or are a member of a hunting club with adequate land to hunt on. They also have to have or have on contract a trained/state certified tracking dog in case they have to go find a wounded animal. (Ruth actually has an Elkhound she has trained and certified - she would lay out a trail of sheep blood with specified turns and such and come track it 24 hours later. Judge lays out the course for the certification. DNR will also call on her to come track road injured animals in her area.) They can also sell the meat off any game they kill.

Magicman · February 19, 2016, 08:49:12 AM

Mart, that is a very nice Drilling that you have.

Deese · February 19, 2016, 09:11:57 AM

Nice Drilling. My granddad had an entire room full of them at one time. Then another gun collector came along one day and bought them all

mart · February 19, 2016, 11:13:48 PM

Thanks guys.

To POSTONLT40HD, my apologies. I didn't intend to hijack your thread. I often longed for a drilling or combination gun for those times just like you showed in you post. Many times out bird hunting I've jumped coyotes or out deer hunting jumped birds and not had the appropriate firearm.

thecfarm · February 20, 2016, 05:56:14 AM

mart,drillings?? Never heard of it before. Glad to see the hijack. ;D I myself don't see it as a big deal. We may wain away from the question,but we get back to the topic on hand.

GaTrapper · February 21, 2016, 04:25:34 PM

Spot on lol ;D ;D

Kbeitz · February 23, 2016, 06:57:42 AM

We call them over and unders here in Pa.

mart · February 23, 2016, 07:25:22 AM

It's actually a side by side laying on it's side and the rifle barrel is centered beneath the two barrels. I should have turned the gun upright for the picture.

Here's the correct orientation.

WV Sawmiller · February 23, 2016, 08:22:03 AM

Quote from: Kbeitz on February 23, 2016, 06:57:42 AM
We call them over and unders here in Pa.

As Mart said they are actually side by sides. A true over and under has a rifle on top and a shotgun underneath. There is also a stackbarrel because one barrel rests on top of the other. I think the Brits, if not other Europeans also, are hooked on them. I think if you brought a side by side to a grouse drive/shoot over the heather in parts of the UK you'd probably be immediately cast out in shame as if you'd forgotten to dress for dinner with a coat and tie.

POSTON WIDEHEAD · February 23, 2016, 08:22:12 AM

Quote from: mart on February 19, 2016, 11:13:48 PM
Thanks guys.

To POSTONLT40HD, my apologies. I didn't intend to hijack your thread.

No apologies needed or expected. We all hunt for one thing or another with one thing or another.
Just hoping to get that trophy to hang on the Wall Mart. ;D

drobertson · February 23, 2016, 09:39:03 AM

Yea, that's a dandy shot gun,, and a dandy thread, amazingly true, and that video RCBS put on pretty much sums it up in my book, just hilarious for anyone who has gone through combat with a fuzzy tail while deer hunting :D :D :D
I've been attacked, really, an old red, been eating black walnuts I reckon,, looked like a German Shepard coming through the timber, tree by tree, got to mine, down he comes raising cain, barking, hissing showing his teeth, run me off, I was pretty shuck up, all I had was my bow,, I believe that day he and I were the only two critters in the woods, and then there was one,, it's life get use to it! :D :D

Deese · February 23, 2016, 09:51:00 AM

My dad and I were turkey hunting one morning when I was probably in the 4th or 5th grade. We were sitting/leaning against trees about 10 yards apart. He was using a box call and I had my single shot .410
Being a little kid, I couldn't keep still and kept fidgeting around, not really paying attention. The next thing I heard was BOOM! My dad shot a large bobcat that had spotted me and was stalking towards me. The cat was no more than 20 yards away and I never saw him. He is now mounted in my dad's living room. Crazy. But, that's life and gotta get used to it!

Magicman · February 23, 2016, 01:10:46 PM

I shot a bobcat several years ago that was stalking Pat while turkey hunting. I would hate to think what those claws would have done to her head.

Like the instance above, it was less than 20 yards and closing in on it's "prey". :-\

WV Sawmiller · February 23, 2016, 01:31:07 PM

Quote from: Magicman on February 23, 2016, 01:10:46 PM
I shot a bobcat several years ago that was stalking Pat while turkey hunting. I would hate to think what those claws would have done to her head.

Like the instance above, it was less than 20 yards and closing in on it's "prey". :-\

MM,

Sorry to hear about the unexpected premature demise of the bobcat but sure am glad Miz Pat was not hurt. I bet it spooked her when you shot behind her. I have had bobcats and foxes come running to me when I was calling. I always figured I must have sounded like a dying turkey and a free and easy meal. I am not a very good turkey caller but is sort of an insult when everything but turkeys come to me.