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Started by firefighter ontheside, February 26, 2019, 10:48:19 PM

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TimW

Thanks guys!  I guess I am now in the "Logger Smashed Chainsaw Club".   I guess it could be the Smashed Logger Chainsaw Club! :D
My 461 is totaled with a cracked crankcase. 
hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

fluidpowerpro

I'm sure you could sell the trashed one on eBay for parts. It will sell. 
Change is hard....
Especially when a jar full of it falls off the top shelf and hits your head!

Local wind direction is determined by how I park my mill.

TimW

When buying the 462 today, The Woodlands, Texas Fire & Rescue Lieutenant came into the store.  He was there to buy in bulk.  While talking to him, I learned every truck has a 461 on it.  I asked if they ever burn the engines up.  He said yes.  I told him to tell the store owner and he can let me know there is a donor saw available next time that happens.  So I will be keeping the 461.
hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

firefighter ontheside

For whatever reason, we have MS280's on our trucks.  We have had them for a long time.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

TimW

He said the 461s are used a lot to cut through roofs.  They have smaller saws, maybe 260s on the engines or visa versa with the trucks and engines.  Anyway, he said the smaller saw is for walls and such.
hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

GAB

Quote from: Resonator on June 19, 2023, 04:21:55 PM
I've heard if you pour the detergent directly on a stained shirt, it will come out with kind of a spotty cow hide pattern of clean and stained fabric.  :-X

I always do a quick check of the bottom of the washing machine tub (around the base of the agitator), for anything that fell out in the wash cycle. Gravel, woodchips, guitar picks, and of course money. (I think that's where the term "money laundering" came from). ;D
My wife does not check pockets.  One day she laundered one of my credit cards.
Does that count as money laundering?
GAB
W-M LT40HDD34, SLR, JD 420, JD 950w/loader and Woods backhoe, V3507 Fransguard winch, Cordwood Saw, 18' flat bed trailer, and other toys.

ForestsAndTrees

The outdoors is my refuge.

TimW

I put this in the wrong thread.  Sorry!
  hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

firefighter ontheside

Ahh.  We have one vent saw that is a purpose built chainsaw for venting rooves.  It has a depth limiting wheel on the bar to prevent from cutting through the top cord of a truss.  Other than that we use a cutoff saw.  That being said, we very rarely vent rooves anymore.
Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

Don P

I'm about to learn something... why not?

firefighter ontheside

Woodmizer LT15
Kubota Grand L4200
Stihl 025, MS261 and MS362
2017 F350 Diesel 4WD
Kawasaki Mule 4010
1998 Dodge 3500 Flatbed

Old Greenhorn

Don, it has to do with fire dynamics being better understood recently through studies. This change was just developing around the time I left the service and it is a bit complex on how fire behave in closed spaces. If Bill has time, hopefully he can explain it accurately.

 We used to believe that getting the heat out was critical and slowed or rather controlled fire spread. It created a 'chimney' for the fire to follow and slowed it's spread to other areas of the structure.
 The studies that were done by NIST created many fires in abandoned identical row houses. So they could create the same fire several times but use different attack methods. They also placed many thermocouples and airflow sensors throughout these buildings. They learned a lot of remarkable things that help save a lot of firefighters lives. The one scenario that stuck in my head was a basement fire, and it turned out the best, and safest attack method was the one we had taught for years was the worst approach. Sticking a nozzle in a basement window and knocking it down was a big no-no when I was trained. I spent hours reviewing and understanding the new data collected in that study, to see why it worked out that way. Fire science is not always intuitive and although many of us refer to the fire service as "200 years of history and service unimpeded by progress". :D

 Hopefully Bill can put a better explanation to it.

 As far as those saws go, we always kept one with depth control fence on it on our engines. We did (in my day) use them for venting, but we also used the for other things, like opening walls with fire inside and floors for drainage. We did a miserable 3 story 150 year old hotel fire, 4 alarms, all night long and the water was 18" deep up on the second floor and realized we had better get that weigh out, so we cut scuttle holes in every room. That decision took every saw on all our trucks out of service. Turns out plunge cutting through carpet is a lot like driving a saw chain into a pair of chaps, it chokes everything up. I don't know how many of those saws Spike fixed and how many we fixed, but it was a lot. We did get the holes in, but the hotel was toast. Our main goal was to keep it from burning down everything else on Main Street (which we did, but it was a long night and the first and last time I got plastered across the back by a deck gun).
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way.  NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

Don P

I didn't know that had changed. 
My Dad's houses typically had widely spaced heavy beams for the roof with 2-1/4" thick T&G. Foam over top, 2" back then, and shingles. I was a kid but I remember they had vented one, I think before they realized they were seeing everything right there. I think had they known the construction they would have handled it differently.

My dumb one for the week, or a few weeks I think. That white thing plugged in is one of those pest be gone ultrasonic things. I saved on the 4 pack for the shop and gristmill truck box. It is supposed to drive rodents, ants, bats ,birds, and used car salesmen, insane with its high frequency squeal. That has been plugged in for 2 or 3 weeks.



 

That bat was snoozing on the joist 5' directly above the "racket". Thus proving bats really don't hear ultrasonic sound. They would never sell me a useless blinky light  ::).


 

moosehunter

I made a really nice wedge with a 11" wide Ash cant yesterday. 12' long, 1.25" at one end, 3/8" at the other I walked around the the mill , apologized to the client and explained what happened. His eyes got big and he says" I can make something cool out of this"!
You never know.
mh
"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days".    Ray Wylie Hubbard

TimW

Quote from: moosehunter on June 26, 2023, 06:55:35 PM
I made a really nice wedge with a 11" wide Ash cant yesterday. 12' long, 1.25" at one end, 3/8" at the other I walked around the the mill , apologized to the client and explained what happened. His eyes got big and he says" I can make something cool out of this"!
You never know.
mh
Photos.  We want photos or it never happened!  ;D
          hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

WV Sawmiller

   Not as dumb as many things I have done and no equipment or personnel damages.

  I was having trailer light problems on my newly purchased truck so I bought the little HF tester for the 4 pin style connection like my boat or utility trailer use. It showed only the right turn signal was working but not the left one, lights or brakes. I used an adapter in the round one for the electric brakes with the same tester and got the same results. I took it to a local shade tree mechanic and he immediately found the socket on the end of the pigtail that goes into the "box" under the bumper was loose. It was like plugging your vacuum cleaner into a loose wall socket. It was not making good connect on the female end. He cleaned the connections and I got him to run a screw into the frame (taking care not to hit any wires) and we tested everything and it all works fine now. He said "Pay me anything" so I paid him for an hour of his labor and we both left happy.

  I knew there had to be a ground or the R turn signal could not even work. I had never thought about the whole socket being loose. I assumed it was a loose or broken wire somewhere.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

SawyerTed

Trailer lights account for almost as much foul language as shins contacting trailer hitches.

Trailer lights fail in so many creative ways they could receive awards for creativity!  
Woodmizer LT50, WM BMS 250, WM BMT 250, Kubota MX5100, IH McCormick Farmall 140, Husqvarna 372XP, Husqvarna 455 Rancher

barbender

I just went and bought a new dump trailer, partially because I didn't want to deal with the lights on the old one😂
Too many irons in the fire

sawguy21

 :D Trailer lights have caused mor grief! I don't miss laying on my back in the snow fixing those miserable madres so I could get home.
old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm

Resonator

if you live in the land of the "High salt highway diet" like me, you might as well figure on replacing your trailer wires every few years. And depending on level of rust, you'll probably have to get a whole new trailer too. :D
Independent Gig Musician and Sawmill Man
Live music act of Sawing Project '23 & '24, and Pig Roast '19, '21, & '24
Featured in the soundtrack of the "Out of the Woods" YouTube video:
"Epic 30ft Long Monster Cypress and Oak Log! Freehand Sawing"

Proud owner of a Wood-Mizer 2017 LT28G19

WV Sawmiller

   I know on the trailers it is usually easier to just order a new wiring harness and replace them on the boat or utility trailer but I had never tried to replace the connections to the truck. This ended much better than I had hoped for.

   When I back my boat trailer into the water I first unplug the lights. I am guilty of leaving the trailer in the water just far enough to run the boat back onto it. I know that is not great on the grease in the bearings and such.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

Dad always said "You can shear a sheep a bunch of times but you can only skin him once

caveman

I try to mount my trailer lights above the water line and also try to avoid any crimp connections from the pigtail to the lights.  Soldered connections and good heat shrink will eliminate a bunch of trailer light problems.  A year or so ago I mentioned using extension cords for trailer light wires, but someone explained why that was wrong and a likely a DOT infraction-my lights work on all of my trailers.  This arrangement is much more durable than the imported Harbor Fright options.  Black extension cords would likely not draw any attention.  

On lights that do get wet, bedding the socket and the metal parts inside the light fixture in Vasoline may provide a little more longevity.  A friend taught me that when I went flounder gigging with him once.  He had been using the same lamp and 12v bulb for years.  He also stored the bulb in a styrofoam cup.
Caveman

Southside

Not sure which is more fun, trailer lights or exhaust repairs. 
Franklin buncher and skidder
JD Processor
Woodmizer LT Super 70 and LT35 sawmill, KD250 kiln, BMS 250 sharpener and setter
Riehl Edger
Woodmaster 725 and 4000 planner and moulder
Enough cows to ensure there is no spare time.
White Oak Meadows

K-Guy

Southside
Trailer lights. Campbells soup cans and hose clamps make exhaust repairs cheap and easy. :D  smiley_jester
Nyle Service Dept.
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
- D. Adams

Crusarius

I used heavy gauge roof flashing :)

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