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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1180 on: June 02, 2016, 09:20:13 PM »
Dave, I have been doing that recently, which I find helps me talk with the blade in a more spiritual fashion. 


But when I cut the chute, I was portable sawing, and I like to be as neat as I can, and often times there's things nearby that won't do to be covered in sawdust, such as flowers, firewood, ant farms, long-legged suntanning women, ya know..stuff
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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1181 on: June 02, 2016, 09:20:50 PM »
If I pushed the feed like that on my mill I would be saying surfs up dude
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Re: Useful sawmill mods, faster up-down
« Reply #1182 on: June 02, 2016, 09:45:25 PM »
Faster up-down speed for older mizers. Two methods. click here

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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1183 on: June 02, 2016, 10:10:20 PM »
I have tried a few thing but ultimately have not found any thing that really makes a lot of difference...
It seems like you didn't read my post.   :-\

You absolutely can increase the speed (by about 50%) just by changing the pulley but, the SimpleSet won't work correctly.
If you could change the speed of the encoder to match your
Speed increase then the simple set should work

Kbeitz,

Do you have some inside knowledge of the proprietary code that runs the Wood-Mizer SimpleSet?  It isn't as simple as you think.
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« Reply #1184 on: June 03, 2016, 12:22:06 AM »
Nice work, Grouch.  Appreciate it  8)

Grouch:  Thank you for the index. I've spent almost an hour looking at some of the modifications.

This thread needs to be a book on sawmilling. Thanks for the index. I never have managed to read this entire thread. This will really help.


Welcome. Glad it helped; wasn't sure if I was wasting time or not. When my eyes uncross I'll try to organize that better. Sure appreciate Jeff making it easy to use stock-standard html for links. That made it easy once the posts were cataloged.

Of course, now the index is out of date. :)
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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1185 on: June 03, 2016, 09:52:06 AM »
If I pushed the feed like that on my mill I would be saying surfs up dude

That was a 10 in 16 inch pine. You should see what it will do with a Turbo! :D
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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1186 on: June 03, 2016, 11:11:17 AM »
I have tried a few thing but ultimately have not found any thing that really makes a lot of difference...
It seems like you didn't read my post.   :-\

You absolutely can increase the speed (by about 50%) just by changing the pulley but, the SimpleSet won't work correctly.
If you could change the speed of the encoder to match your
Speed increase then the simple set should work

Kbeitz,

Do you have some inside knowledge of the proprietary code that runs the Wood-Mizer SimpleSet?  It isn't as simple as you think.
I have no knowledge of your machine. But if it has an encoder somewhere its reading so many 0s and 1s per movement.
So if that could be geared up or down to match the speed change of the carrage that should work.
I work with PLCs and encoders and if you dont have a way to change the programing then you change the ratio of the encoder
or buy a different encoder.
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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1187 on: June 03, 2016, 12:50:50 PM »
Need y'alls help. Looking for some ideas as to how to rig up a lock, to lock the saw head in place now that I have my mill on a trailer. Pictures would be great.

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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1188 on: June 03, 2016, 01:12:11 PM »
I just welded a tab with an 1/2hole in it and welded it to the carrage.
When moveing I bolt it down to the track.
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« Reply #1189 on: June 03, 2016, 02:10:42 PM »
Thanks, but I would have to do all 4 post. I wouldn't feel comfortable if I didn't.

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Re: Useful sawmill mods
« Reply #1190 on: June 05, 2016, 06:58:47 AM »
I wonder if Jeff could move that index up to the top of this thread.  ;)
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« Reply #1191 on: June 05, 2016, 12:35:26 PM »
Grouch, heck of a job on the index.. smiley_clapping
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« Reply #1192 on: June 06, 2016, 10:39:36 AM »
Grouch, heck of a job on the index.. smiley_clapping

Thanks. Trying for version 0.2 now. If I get shot for this, it's all your fault.

Corrections, etc. appreciated.

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« Reply #1193 on: June 06, 2016, 11:08:50 AM »
Wow, now that is fantastic.  I think this entry should be put either at the top of this thread (not likely) or in a separate thread as a sticky.
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« Reply #1194 on: June 06, 2016, 11:30:07 AM »
YE OLE GROUCH, pur-dee work Sir. 8)

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« Reply #1195 on: June 07, 2016, 09:33:01 PM »
Lot of work, good job.
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« Reply #1196 on: June 07, 2016, 10:39:33 PM »
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Start with a blade tensioning lever as it comes from the Wood-Mizer factory - a little too short and a little too hard to get my big hands around and turn without hitting my knuckles against the sharp edges of the tensioner body or the blade guide arm motor.

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Find an extra tall 3/4 (outside) nut.  (or, any such big nut this is just what I found). Find a slug of steel 1/4" thick by so big and so tall. I found this slug on the floor in my shop. It was 1-1/4x1. 

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Grind a slot across the end of the nut about 3/16 deep.  I used a mill bastard file to square up the bottom and true it up.  It sure would really be nice to have a milling machine.

Take a drift pin and drive the roll pin enough to be able to remove the factory handle but not all the way out.  No need in doing any more work than necessary.

Weld slug into place in the nut and dress down with grinder to fit the slot. (Sorry,  I meant to take a picture of the finished nut assembly and just didnt do it.  But you get the picture anyway.

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I used a 3/16 drill bit the same size as the hole on the tensioner piston to drill the hole in the new nut assembly.  I positioned the nut assembly in the slot and drilled just enough to make a location mark.  I didnt want risk to increase the size of the hole in the tensioner piston.  I also used a 1/4 drill bit to chamfer the hole on each side so to make it easier to drive the roll pin back in.

I assembled the new nut assembly to the tensioner piston by driving the roll pin back in.

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Tested with a 3/4 boxed end wrench that clears nicely all the way around for a full cycle turn and gives twice the leverage.  The wrench fits very solid on the extra tall nut. 

FYI,  I dont plan to leave the wrench on when sawing.  As we have a stationary mill, its no problem to have the wrench hanging on the wall.  If you saw mobile,  then you probably want to do some more thinking.  If you make this mod, you may want to make a holder to store a dedicated tool so youll always have it with you.


I like this mod.  I'd be running that thing in with an impact though lol
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« Reply #1197 on: June 07, 2016, 10:40:38 PM »
Grouch, wow, great job.  That must've tooketh alot of patience!
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« Reply #1198 on: June 07, 2016, 11:51:39 PM »
Thanks for all the kind comments, folks.

Each of those mods has taught me something or gave me ideas or made me think about some part of the process or tools a little differently. There's a lot of experience and creativity all through the thread -- how to make sawing, tools, maintenance safer, faster, easier, etc.

It just seemed to me that those who might benefit most from any given post are also those who would have the least amount of time to go looking for it.

The descriptions and categories chosen are pretty arbitrary. I'm not a sawyer so lemme know what needs to be changed, please.
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« Reply #1199 on: July 29, 2016, 11:22:25 AM »
my TK-2000 leveling jack mod
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