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Title: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 26, 2019, 10:48:19 PM
I made a cut and then went to raise the head so I could return it for the next cut.  Apparently I lowered the saw on accident instead of raised.  When I pulled the saw, the back of the blade hit the log and the blade came off the wheels.  At first I thought the blade broke, then I realized what had actually happened.  The blade appeared undamaged, but I was leery about putting it back on.  I figure at the least, some teeth got damaged.  Whoís done this?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Woodpecker52 on February 26, 2019, 11:01:14 PM
Happens more times than I care to admit, forget which way to move dial.  Blade should be ok.  I like to finish a cut, turn the log raise the blade up about a 1/4 of a turn and pull back and do not see the bump sticking up till it catches the blade and everything comes to a stop. Or the all time bonehead, turn about a 4x 10 cant up on high side forget to raise up stops and have it fall over in the middle and jam the whole works up and end with a zig zag blade.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on February 26, 2019, 11:34:56 PM
Nope, not me, never hit the right trigger instead of the right thumb button.  ;) That's my story and I am sticking to it!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Percy on February 26, 2019, 11:59:00 PM
After 11,500 hours, my blade door on the mast side has a jagged hole in it where countless  blades have hit Because of various unintelligent moves. A common one for me is leaving the feed lever in the business position but having the speed control knob completely off. The lube mizer keeps squirting and, using pdiesel for lube,  enough of it accumulates on the blade. Hit the auto clutch on and the blade spins out on the diesel causing it to fly off, just as itís winding up. I could go on for many chapters of Dumbness. Should write a book called Percyís Pinheaded Sawmilling Techniques. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rhodemont on February 27, 2019, 05:35:10 AM
When sawing or logging I have a prescription for one-dumb-aday and use it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on February 27, 2019, 06:35:13 AM
I've done it maybe twice since I've had my mill, then I started following what's written in the book!

When the blade exits the cut, disengage it for the gig back to the front!  ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 27, 2019, 07:22:17 AM
A better question might be "who hasn't done this........... Yet." :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 27, 2019, 07:39:47 AM
Thanks for the replies everybody.  I enjoyed them all.  The thing is, I always disengage.  I must have disengaged and then tried to go back while it was slowing down.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on February 27, 2019, 07:48:18 AM
This is why I am putting a "laser" on mine.  I at least one time hit my setworks down button before I had cleared the back (near) end of the log and tried to stretch my blade.

"laser" indicator for sawmill. in Sawmills and Milling (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=105283.msg1639619#msg1639619)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 27, 2019, 08:09:07 AM
   Yeah, I have bumped the down toggle on my setworks after raising the head then lowered and knocked the blade off. Usually no damage is done, just a little embarrassment if others happen to be watching.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crossroads on February 27, 2019, 08:54:58 AM
Iíll take the 5th 😎😎😎😎😎
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on February 27, 2019, 08:57:09 AM
Been there done that multiple times.
No cure for it in my case as inattention is a constant trait of mine 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Alyeska Pete on February 27, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
Now we know why Cook always used plywood for blade covers. In recent years they caved in to the "me too" market pressure and went to steel covers. I'm lucky to have bought my mill before the change. I have yet to trash a blade by knocking it off on the return, despite having done it at least several times a year. I strive not to do this unless I have an audience.

au∑di∑ence  Dictionary result for audience
/ˈŰdēəns/
noun

  • 1.
    the assembled spectators or listeners at a public event, such as a play, movie, concert, or sawmill demonstration.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 27, 2019, 11:58:50 AM
Pete, I feel like you might have added that last part.  Lol.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Sixacresand on February 27, 2019, 01:32:58 PM
There are so many things you have to be aware of while milling,  Being tired and hot can cause lose of focus.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: gshd1 on February 27, 2019, 02:47:53 PM
ayup it happens
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: E-Tex on February 27, 2019, 03:10:10 PM
I made a cut and then went to raise the head so I could return it for the next cut.  Apparently I lowered the saw on accident instead of raised.  When I pulled the saw, the back of the blade hit the log and the blade came off the wheels.  At first I thought the blade broke, then I realized what had actually happened.  The blade appeared undamaged, but I was leery about putting it back on.  I figure at the least, some teeth got damaged.  Whoís done this?
that's just nonsense.  it's NEVER happened in bullard, texas!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 27, 2019, 05:23:30 PM
I looked closer at that blade today.  One tooth was almost completely sheered off.  I think I will not send that back to resharp.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on February 27, 2019, 07:48:06 PM
Iíll take the 5th 😎😎😎😎😎
You are definitely not alone on that one.
Don't ask me how I know.
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: starmac on February 27, 2019, 08:37:11 PM
Well, there is a saying on the haul road, that there is two kinds of truck drivers, those that have crashed and those that are going to.

Some things are just a whole lot alike, and yea I have done it, but I ain't admitting it. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: randy d on February 27, 2019, 09:04:40 PM
Yep been there done that happens when I am in a hurry.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Idiocrates on February 27, 2019, 09:39:54 PM
This has never ever happened to me......although I'm pretty sure that when it did happen that either the mill misunderstood my intentions and prematurely backed up or sensed the Head-Up switch contact as a Head-Back contact through some kind of inherent glitch or electrical impulse fault either of which results in a lot of cussing.  Of course, there's always the possibility that somebody UP there thought I was working too hard and needed a rest.......and those are my top three stories and I'm sticking to them all!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: tylerltr450 on February 28, 2019, 07:33:47 AM
Now we know why Cook always used plywood for blade covers. In recent years they caved in to the "me too" market pressure and went to steel covers. I'm lucky to have bought my mill before the change. I have yet to trash a blade by knocking it off on the return, despite having done it at least several times a year. I strive not to do this unless I have an audience.

au∑di∑ence  Dictionary result for audience
/ˈŰdēəns/
noun

  • 1.
    the assembled spectators or listeners at a public event, such as a play, movie, concert, or sawmill demonstration.
I have a timber harvester looks like cooks but came well before them and it has the plywood panels. One time on site with a customer I threw a blade and it stuck in the plywood. I turned to the customer and said you now see why its plywood and not steel. He laughed and said it must have happened a time or two based on the holes in your plywood. I smiled and said it happens more than I like to admit.

Best part about plywood is I saved many blades and I can make new covers in no time at all.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Brad_bb on February 28, 2019, 08:32:12 AM
I've done what the OP describes more times than I'd like to admit.  Whether I try to put the band on and try it depends on what I'm cutting and if I can afford to risk a dive.  If you put it on and get it turning and don't see any visible blurp in one spot, then try it slowly on wood.  If it's good, run it.  Just make sure to feed slow and cautious at first.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Percy on February 28, 2019, 10:04:42 AM
I've done what the OP describes more times than I'd like to admit.  Whether I try to put the band on and try it depends on what I'm cutting and if I can afford to risk a dive.  If you put it on and get it turning and don't see any visible blurp in one spot, then try it slowly on wood.  If it's good, run it.  Just make sure to feed slow and cautious at first.
Ive pondered putting mabey 3/8 plywood on the inside of my blade doors. Seen it done on many mills...Or I could just be more careful ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on February 28, 2019, 10:13:30 AM
Unless somebody saw it and states otherwise, no I have never done that!  Just line I have never hit the down toggle on the set works with the blade in a kerf!    :-X ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 28, 2019, 02:06:43 PM
Unless somebody saw it and states otherwise, no I have never done that!  Just line I have never hit the down toggle on the set works with the blade in a kerf!    :-X ::)
That sounds exciting!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on February 28, 2019, 03:06:19 PM
We always told the nervous boys getting stitches, and worried they might cry, "what happens in the ED, stays in the ED."  Or another favorite, " If a man says something, and no woman is around to hear it, is he still wrong!"  I think we are safe sharing our "learning experiences" here! :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 28, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
I dunno Doc, I always found that reminding them 'Chicks dig scars' usually worked well, if they were of a certain age bracket, say 11 to about 85 years of age.  ;D :D
 And NO, if a woman wasn't around to hear/see it, it didn't happen, (until she heard about it from 'her friend').
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: scrout on February 28, 2019, 04:02:36 PM
A "blade" describes various cutting devices that invariably hit every other freaking device in close proximity.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Texas Ranger on February 28, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
I keep coming back to these posts, primarily because a day seldom goes by without me doing something dumb.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on February 28, 2019, 05:45:30 PM
this one should be as popular as the weather post, happens everyday. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on March 01, 2019, 12:46:59 PM
If this were to happen to me me it usually wouldn't be the end of the log, it would be the hump or knot I forget about and don't raise the blade to clear it.  That is "if" it were to happen to me...... (I did just exactly that Saturday with a new and potentially very good customer off bearing).

The odds of sawing into the log stops or clamp, knocking a blade off or forgetting to drop the toe boards is directly proportionate to the size of the audience and value of the log.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Mike W on March 01, 2019, 01:26:31 PM
Well being a bit tired and a bit lazy at the end of the day, I did the dumbest thing ever, i consulted with the only occupation that allows you to be wrong 100% of the time and still have that job, you guessed it, the weather man.  Clear skies over night, so no need to go dig out the metal sheeting to cover the days worth of sticker'ed lumber, will just do it in the morning.  Well 1 foot of snow later, I now have SCD (snow covered drying), a close cousin to another disease with a similar acronym.  As for what else I have done dumb lately, no one has that much time or desire to read that much in a single post...... :-\
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 01, 2019, 02:41:16 PM
Well, a really cold, dry snow may be good for dehydrating your lumber.  We are supposed to get about 7Ē of just that this weekend so maybe Iíll give it a try.   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: buzywoodliff on March 03, 2019, 09:48:13 AM
my mill is manual up and down via a crank, i've gone the wrong way twice now and threw the blade when returning to home position, both times when theres an audience of course
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 03, 2019, 10:59:54 AM
Yep, thatís how I did it.  Manual mill.  Turned handle wrong way and yanked mill back toward other end.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rhodemont on March 04, 2019, 06:24:57 AM
I need to make an appointment with my doctor for misuse of my one-dumb-aday prescription.  I used 3 yesterday.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 04, 2019, 07:59:24 AM
Definitely hate to overdose on that prescription.  Maybe your doctor just needs to up your dose.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 04, 2019, 08:46:39 AM
I think if you are using 3 a day, you prob. need treatment.  abuse potential is real!!!   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on March 04, 2019, 10:00:51 AM
I need to make an appointment with my doctor for misuse of my one-dumb-aday prescription.  I used 3 yesterday.
How early did you start and how late did you go?
Good luck at the pharmacy getting that prescription filled.
When I asked the pharmacist for patience they told me it was on back order.
I try to learn from my not so wise moves.  
I have taken chances that I knew could cost me a blade.
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on March 04, 2019, 10:16:21 AM
Not sure if I learned anything reading this page.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: alan gage on March 04, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
Maybe someone should start a Whatcha' dumbin' thread.

Alan
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 04, 2019, 04:35:25 PM
Luckily for me, I havenít done anything dumb since I started this thread a week ago.  Do you believe me?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 04, 2019, 04:44:52 PM
Not sure if I have done anything dumb today cause my wife is working till 9 pm.  she will let me know when she gets home.lol.  As well, the day is still young.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Mike W on March 04, 2019, 06:17:29 PM
FireFighter,

No, not really, then again, maybe you just haven't done anything since you started this thread ;D, that would change my opinion to plausible :D

Doc,

agreed, I always say the day is still young enough for a lot to go wrong :-\ 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 09, 2019, 07:42:51 PM
OK, my turn I guess. Nice day today and I have cabin fever. I haven't cut in a couple of months now and there is this 65' snag I have to look at each time I leave my driveway. It's been there 15 years. A rotten EWP locked into a leaning 75' maple. It's a 'little' tricky and last March I did a much more dangerous complex 4 way tie-up right next to it (all hurricane Irene damage).
Anyway, before diving in, I wanted to get my sea legs back and had all these pines and one oak that had been down nearly as long. They needed to be bucked into something drag able, and some were a little hung up at head height. Lots of little forces involved with the twists and crotch jams. Well, you guessed it, I mis-judged the loading on one and got the saw pinched good in the oak. I didn't have another saw handy and didn't want to walk back, tried the wedge thing (as you can see in the photo), but wound up cutting it out with an ax. NO, I did not hit the bar or the chain with the ax. It was like surgery (OK Doc, maybe not quite surgery, but it worked fine, allow me the metaphor). I got it out. Still feel stupid though. The photographic evidence provided shows the saw just prior to removal after I had freed it up.
I did get the big snag down, but it took most of the day with trying to plan the way it shifted with each 4' chunk I took off the bottom. I did a LOT of wedge pounding, more than I have ever done on a single tree, let alone in a single day. Used every wedge I had in my pouch. My dumbest move of the day was around 3:30 when I realized I could not longer control either ax or saw above my shoulder height. I should have quit for the day, but I wanted that DanG tree on the ground and kept going. Now I feel pretty darn sore (I did get it down and bucked). Not using those muscles for several months sure has put a hurtin' on me. I could crawl into bed right now, but I am expected at the neighbors to shoot pool and be jovial in a little while. Time for more Advil.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF2259.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1552178065)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Mike W on March 09, 2019, 07:55:06 PM
OG,

Well overall seems like a success story, just the scenic route was taken was all.  At least it was Advil, had it been Tylenol, you'd have to have stopped every 4 hours for some more :D and that snag might not have been completed in a single day.  See, not so dumb after all.   8)

glad to see it all come together in the end, and you are still in one piece to boot, a win / win in my books

Best,  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 09, 2019, 11:32:15 PM
That definitely sounded like a challenge, OG, but you persevered in the end.  Thatís a good day.  Now rest those arms.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 10, 2019, 01:23:57 AM
OG, at least you didn't get your panties in a bunch when you got your bar in a pinch.  sign of maturity.   smiley_old_guy
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 10, 2019, 01:59:56 AM
Getting a bar pinched is part of the job. If you don't expect to have that happen from time to time, you just aren't realistic. I am actually surprised it didn't happen more than once today with all the odd cutting I was doing. As for the advil, never did take any until I got in the house at the end of the day. Too little, too late. I am about to take my third dose now at 2am. Snow coming in soon. I'd better get to bed so i can get up and plow at 5am. Probably no cutting tomorrow.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 11, 2019, 05:09:07 PM
Well, did it again today.  Didnít raise blade high enough to clear the cant. Drag back and bang.  No damage to blade this time though.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: offrink on March 11, 2019, 06:44:11 PM
I was sawing and got about 5Ē in and realized I was about 2Ē to deep and banged the housing around the band wheels on a cut off branch.  Tried to back out and the whole band popped off. Wasnít even thinking when I did it. 

What is the best way to get a band out?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on March 11, 2019, 06:47:52 PM
 . . . . What is the best way to get a band out?
In one piece or five?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on March 11, 2019, 06:52:13 PM
   I keep a couple of felling wedges and a small ax or hammer and if I have to back the band out I drive the wedge in to give me more clearance. Unfortunately it is usually easier to free a band 5' into the cut than one that is stuck 5" in. If I can't get it out with the wedges you may have to cut off the board/flitch/slab you were cutting with a chainsaw or handsaw. This is often a hard spot to reach due to the head position in these circumstances. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on March 11, 2019, 07:24:27 PM
Yes, tap wedge(s) in to raise the board and then use a cutoff section of a broken blade to clear the sawdust.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/IMG_0268.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1457716088)

Not pretty but it does the job.  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 11, 2019, 07:30:28 PM
If you have to take a blade out in pieces, or if it is damaged beyond repair, you can break it into pieces without tools by folding a section tight, and it will break.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 11, 2019, 07:32:07 PM

Not pretty but it does the job.  ;D
nice idea MM for a tool, cannot believe you do not have nice maple handles riveted to that blade.  nice floor, is that "grit grout!)lol
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on March 11, 2019, 08:25:09 PM
Lynn,

 I've seen you post the broken band to remove sawdust before but why? I have not noticed the sawdust creating a problem to pull the blade back. Then again, I have not tried removing the sawdust first. Do you find it binds or prevents the movement of the band? You must or you would not be removing the sawdust. ???
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on March 11, 2019, 08:48:59 PM
cannot believe you do not have nice maple handles riveted to that blade


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/IMG_5778.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1552350541)
 
The Plasti-Dip handle works just fine Doc. 

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/IMG_1890.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1487121812)
 
It's the same thing that I use on the ends of all of my Logrite tools to repair/prevent damage to the rubber grip.


Yes WV, I have had many occasions where I was deep into the cut and wedges alone would not raise the board/cant enough to allow me to back out without removing the sawdust.  I shouldn't say that I couldn't, but that removing the sawdust certainly made it easier.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 11, 2019, 09:34:23 PM
brilliant!  I thought it was electrical tape in the other pic.  I was just kidden ya.  all your repairs are first class, lots of good ideas.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 11, 2019, 09:55:41 PM
I like the handheld piece of blade.  I could make one from the blade I messed up, but then my son would probably get ahold of it and use it as a sword.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on March 11, 2019, 10:03:28 PM
Some day in the future when lasers are being used to cut boards from standing trees an archaeologist will find that tool and hang it in a museum with some story about how we used those to saw lumber with!!  :D 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on March 11, 2019, 10:05:35 PM
What happens to our mind in the cold. The other day at 17* and gusty at times I decided to go cut some ewp. I usually take two saws cause if I have only one Iíll get it pinched up! Well got the big saw pinched bucking off the top. Grabbed my smaller limbing saw, it needed gas n oil and I was getting cold. Filled it with gas and was putting in the bar n chain oil. Wait! You gotta be kidding me! Iíve been running chain saw for 58 years and pulled a first. Put gas in oiler n oil in the gas tank! I didnít try starting it thinking the oil was too cold to fire up! I drained it into a bucket I had on the tractor, refilled and went back to work. Still scratching my head on that one!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on March 11, 2019, 10:09:35 PM
I'm only half that bad.  I caught it when I put the oil in the gas.  I wouldn't have told, except you already did.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on March 11, 2019, 10:17:07 PM
I havenít told anybody around here! 🤫
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on March 11, 2019, 10:33:12 PM
A few weeks ago I filled my gas tank with oil but noticed my mistake before I put the cap on.  Later I forgot to put the oil cap on and noticed it when.......
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on March 11, 2019, 10:46:58 PM
The lids on my ms460 are good at that, if you get in a hurry and dont check it.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 11, 2019, 10:52:05 PM
A few weeks ago I filled my gas tank with oil but noticed my mistake before I put the cap on.  Later I forgot to put the oil cap on and noticed it when.......
You know all you guys think what you did was REALLY dumb, I know I would. BUT, I can tell you that I have always been so concerned about making this same error that I Never pour gas in the hole until I look down it and make sure that this is 'the hole that the gas goes in'. I don't know why, but I NEVER trust myself, and I have never (yet) made that mistake, and BOY do I know how the cold can make a sane solid man into and idiot for just a moment or two. I expect my turn will come someday too, I just haven't lived long enough to make that mistake...yet.
 I get the feeling this thread may need a "did something dumb today 219, 2020, 2021, etc." because if you haven't done something dumb, you ain't doing much.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on March 11, 2019, 10:57:13 PM
There's thems that screw up and thems that  :-X
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on March 12, 2019, 12:24:52 AM
Read this thread again and still havenít learned anything. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on March 12, 2019, 08:32:10 AM
You shoulda learned   smiley_book2_page  what you shouldna did.  smiley_dizzy 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on March 12, 2019, 09:19:02 AM
I did, but it doesnít help me. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on March 12, 2019, 09:24:36 AM
Me either.  Just bumble along and (try to) get up when I fall.  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on March 12, 2019, 10:14:38 AM
Just reading about something usually donít help.  You have to experience it.  So after the saw cap came off, twice I now double check to make sue itís not going to oil my leg for me..  Sometime It takes a couple lessons.  If they are good enough lessons ,once is usually enough, like when I got my head busted for not wearing a hard hat when falling a tree.  I have never cut one since without one on.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rhodemont on March 12, 2019, 10:45:43 AM
End of the day went to refill the chainsaw with fuel.  Opened the cap and then found I was out of fuel mix.  Filled the gallon container with fresh gas  and then proceeded to pour the small container of mix into the saw rather than the gallon of gas.  Let the saw drain overnight but still ran rough for next tank.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on March 12, 2019, 04:55:30 PM
. . . What happens to our mind in the cold. . . 
At - 35*F, you could imagine the knuckle headed moves I've made.
I try not to make the same boneheaded maneuvers more than six times in a row. 

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 12, 2019, 06:09:50 PM
That canoe may not float after that.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: OHBucknut on March 12, 2019, 09:06:11 PM
New mill owner here and I have read on here many times that people hit the log rest. 

I was like yea I can see it happening but it shouldnít be easy to do. I mean you look at the log before each cut.... turns out I was WAY WRONG. I hit the log rests on my third log. Lol what a rookie mistake.

Iím sure itís all depending on everything but can a band that hit the metal be resharpened ? Does it take the set out of the band? 

... very first day...at least I got it outta the way early
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 12, 2019, 09:21:12 PM
 I mean you look at the log before each cut.... turns out I was WAY WRONG. I hit the log rests on my third log. 
Hahahahahahaha!  :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
 I am not laughing at you, I am laughing with you. We all say "Nah, won't happen to me!" and yet, yeah, it does. Many reasons why: watching something else, too cold out and lost concentration, distracted by the tailgunner, pretty girl watching, you name it. There are as many reasons as there are log dogs.
 Welcome to the club, your member number is 2,189, 265.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 12, 2019, 11:12:29 PM
OHBucknut, I hit a log support the first time I ran the mill.  I cut halfway then it before I realized.  Luckily it was just at the very end.  Just kissing the thing probably ok.  Cutting halfway thru, probably fatal to the blade.
I just read your info on your profile page.  Be careful milking Lumber.  You can get splinters.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on March 12, 2019, 11:14:33 PM
at least I got it outta the way early


Trust me you didn't - it keeps coming back when you least expect it!!  There are two types of sawyers, those who try to saw off a piece of their mill, and those who LIE about not doing so...;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: OHBucknut on March 13, 2019, 11:01:33 AM
Firefighter

Thanks for the heads up on the splinters. I since quit milking and started milling. Lol
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 22, 2019, 11:14:01 PM
Two dumb things today.  One was totally not my fault.  Somebody ran into the back of my truck while I was stopped behind someone turning left.  Luckily the damage is minor, but still an inconvenience.

The second could have prevented by me.  I was picking up some big black oak logs that someone was giving me.  He was loading the first onto my trailer with a skidder with forks.  Put the log on trsiler and it rolled right across and off other side.  It put a good dent in my trailer fender on the way down.  I should have thought to lay something down to prevent it from rolling.  On the plus side, I got some great logs.  I think I will q saw at least a few of them.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on March 23, 2019, 07:56:46 AM
My trailer fenders looks like pianos fell on them.  Multiple pianos :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on March 23, 2019, 08:01:26 AM
I have performed this act twice. The most embarrassing thing it was the same customer about two years apart. While cutting the first slab off; find my first cut hight, engage blade, turn on debarker, engage debarker with the wood as I start through the cut. As I am coming out the other end, move debarker out, switch off the debarker, switch of the auto clutch as soon as the blade clears the log. I got myself out of sync and shut off the auto clutch instead of the debarker. The saw makes an interesting noise when the blade stops before it clears wood.

mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on March 23, 2019, 08:52:38 AM
Been there a few times too 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 23, 2019, 10:10:39 AM
I once thought I could put a log on the deck without the log stops up.  The log had a swoop that was up and it rolled off the back of the mill.  bent my trough and broke a few parts of the energy chain.  also deformed my sprinkler pump house lid.  This is starting to feel like a group therapy meeting, and I finally felt comfortable sharing.  Hi, my name is Bryan! :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 23, 2019, 03:06:10 PM
Weíre here to help and let you know youíre not alone, Bryan.  Does anybody else want to share with the group?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: brianJ on March 23, 2019, 03:32:43 PM
  Does anybody else want to share with the group?

Since you asked.   I put a firewood chunk into the back window of my pickup
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 23, 2019, 04:06:56 PM
Hello Brian!  does that warm or cool the inside of your cab? ::)  it is firewood after all.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Texas Ranger on March 23, 2019, 04:59:58 PM
I do some thing dumb most days, but I don't want to talk about it! ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 23, 2019, 08:39:52 PM
 Does anybody else want to share with the group?

Since you asked.   I put a firewood chunk into the back window of my pickup
Dang it.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: rjwoelk on March 23, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
Well I did not do this
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36761/20190323_064038.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1553391198)
 
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36761/20190323_103917.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1553391191)
 . But it woke me up at 0600. I reckon he felt pretty dumb. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on March 23, 2019, 09:44:35 PM
I was expecting to see a Swift truck.  :-X  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on March 23, 2019, 09:47:06 PM
Ha Ha Ha!!! Truer words were never spoken!!!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 23, 2019, 10:01:58 PM
Thatís probably pretty alarming to wake up to your truck getting hit.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: rjwoelk on March 23, 2019, 10:05:04 PM
It was a good loud bang when his trailer tires hit his steering tire. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on March 23, 2019, 10:23:28 PM
I had a dry box in a JD Irving parking lot one time that got whacked by a JD Irving driver.  My trailer was sitting there waiting to get loaded with wood shavings - drop and hook - no truck attached.  Irving tried to claim their driver was not at fault and my trailer was....I was like "whaaattt??"
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on March 24, 2019, 08:05:12 AM
Obviously, your trailer jumped in front of that truck. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on March 24, 2019, 12:21:08 PM
This is not forestry related, but I will pass it on anyway.  I took a pack of bagels out of the freezer, not having any in the fridge.  I put one in the microwave to thaw it out, then I put it in the toaster.  Bad idea...don't ever do it.  Made is almost to hard to eat.  I say almost, because Debbie was not here and I didn't want to make anything else.  Hard to believe that as soft as that thing was coming out of the microwave it could turn into a little rock in the toaster.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: rjwoelk on March 24, 2019, 08:35:15 PM
I was parked across from the oops. Had a good view. Yes I am thankful it was not my trailer or truck.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: rjwoelk on March 24, 2019, 08:39:51 PM
So yesterday I went to tighten the straps. Made it 3/4 around the trailer then this happened. Snapped the end off the snipe bar. I landed on my left hip and pinched a couple of fingers. Pretty stiff last night and this morning,  but feel better tonight. 
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36761/20190323_105837.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1553474304)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Skip on March 25, 2019, 06:28:35 AM
Wow, :o never seen one break like that. Seen cheater pipes fly though . Got 30 stiches in my forehead from one when snap binder kicked back in  Whg. Pitt. steel mill I was loading at  . Went to all ratchet binders was gun shy after that. Glad you're healing up ok.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: clww on March 25, 2019, 12:15:47 PM
Well I did not do this
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36761/20190323_064038.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1553391198)
 
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36761/20190323_103917.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1553391191)
 . But it woke me up at 0600. I reckon he felt pretty dumb.
Can not recall how many times Iíve seen this. Luckily, never happened to my truck, yet...(knocks on wood twice).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RichTired on March 29, 2019, 09:31:35 PM
So today was my day to do something dumb.
Well I knew it was going to happen, just didn't know when!
While I was cleaning up around my mill today I found a small cedar log.  So I thought I could get a few 6" x 24" boards out of it to make something one day.  So I fired up the mill and sawed a 6" x 24" cant and began sawing boards.  On the third or fourth board I fed the saw head a little too far past the cant and it found the edge of the bolt holding the roller assembly onto the log side support.   :-[

Glad that is over with, kind of like the first dint or ding in a new truck...



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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Woodpecker52 on March 29, 2019, 09:53:38 PM
Nothing like the sound of a band hitting metal to throw all the senses into hay wire mode.  Cut motor?,, Stop band?? pull back?? yikes!!!  Then what damage did I do to the baby!!!  Oh Cr#$ how did I do that?    My favorite is starting the band with the tensioner down (off).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: hacknchop on March 29, 2019, 10:30:55 PM
I did something last week that I'm still hurting about .The back door at home here has an 8' deck and Rhonda likes to watch the birds in the feeder we put out there and the black squirrels which are new here and kinda taking over were in the feeder , I bolted out the door to chase them away and that's the last thing I remember, till I woke up 1/2 hr later on the floor tried to get up couldn't went back down started vomiting was super dizzy finally crawled to my phone called 911 they showed up helped get me off the floor and to the hospital for the night released me with a heart monitor for couple days which is off now and I'm fine except for headaches which I am not acustomed to.  NOW when I look outside and see black squirrels  in the feeder i look elsewhere.
 Last Friday we were sitting in the house having coffee when my friend Tim jumped up and said look there goes a red fox with a black squirrel in his mouth,now that was nice to see.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: redbeard on March 30, 2019, 12:51:59 AM
 

It took 13 years and on my new AC 36  band mill, I grazed the back stop didn't have it all the way down. On a last 1" cut off Deck. 
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22539/rps20190329_214441.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1553921062)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Kindlinmaker on March 30, 2019, 01:16:41 AM
I donít know why they make log supports so long.  Every sawyer seems to have trouble with their length at one time or another. I have formally declared war on mine and am working on trimming them to a proper length - one stop and blade at a time.

Thatís my story and Iím sticking to it!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 16, 2019, 11:31:59 AM
Iím happy to see some folks have been doing some dumb things without me.  Well, today I did it again.....sort of.  I was cutting a large walnut that maxed out my saw.  I had to keep trimming the side as  I went down for the roller guide to clear.  I ran out of clearance and couldnít go any further.  I needed to back the saw up to cut with the chainsaw for clearance.  I even wedged the beginning of the cut about 3/4Ē, but it didnít help.  When I went to back the saw up off came the band.  Man what a racket.  Dinged one tooth on the blade, so it will go off for sharpening.  New blade and awaY we went to the finish line.  Got some beautiful 23Ē slabs at least.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on April 17, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
When backing the sawhead up, it's a good idea to disengage the blade, ESPECIALLY if the blade is still in the cut!  :P
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 17, 2019, 06:56:17 AM
well I guess I should tell on myself and compliment my son William.  He just graduated Buhler High School and often if he is helping dad, he would rather be with some friends or on line with them.  We went out to get the Walnut tree.  things went well.  saw poison ivy everywhere.  He transported logs to the trailer that sat on the road but had to travel a long narrow drive.  now he did nock over a 10 foot ERC tree not paying attention, but no big harm and a good learning experience.  As we were loading up on the trailer including the skid steer, he noticed that my gooseneck ball had came up out of the receiver and was just setting on the bed of the truck, under the full tongue weight of the trailer.  It had not worked well for many years after I got the truck and the pin would snap shut even just climbing up on the bumper.  so it had been a 2 man job to flip the ball with me holding the linkage and my son turning the ball.  I told my diesel mechanic to check it out, and the caul was dirty and needed lubed.  now it works great, meaning the pin was still locked in the out position.  took about 30 minutes of jacking up the front of the trailer and trying to put it back in.  It had deformed the opening so the only way was to use the weight of the trailer and move forward and back with the truck.  no one harmed. could have done lots or damage to my bed and tailgate had I drove forward.  even worse if had somehow got onto the road.  I am proud that his brain was engaged enough to notice!  It was also good to solve a problem to get us back to town, with him.
ps glad to see no one else has done anything dumb since a month ago!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 17, 2019, 07:34:50 AM
Doc,

 I guess me dropping the head off my mill when I changed the lower cam follower 2 weeks ago does not count, huh?

http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=106133.0 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=106133.0)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 17, 2019, 07:38:30 AM
Oh yes it does ;D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 17, 2019, 04:22:37 PM
as long as no one gets hurt in the making of these movies.  live and learn, learn and live!   8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 17, 2019, 06:48:01 PM
 ;)Right Doc, I havenít done anything done since April 16. ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 26, 2019, 04:33:37 PM
OK, guess it's my turn in the chute: SO I am milling this oddball crotch today and having a heck of a time fitting it in. I shimmed it all over and one of the blade guides got hung up on a shim and couldn't pass it by, so I grabbed a dead blow hammer just to tap the shim to get it to snap over the blade guide. Guess I gt a little too close and the blade grabbed it, sucked it in and jammed up solid.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF2554.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1558902494)
 

I missed the steel insert in the head, but let most of the shot out of it. No big deal. I had just reclaimed this mallet from a dumpster at work. No big investment, just feeling pretty dumb. It was hot, I was tired and my brain just farted.


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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 26, 2019, 04:41:42 PM
you should see the guys who's brains try to hold it in, good thing your brain farted.  I think there a still a few good years left in that safety orange dead blow.  refill it with shot and wrap in camo duct tape.  one of your neighbors will prob. offer you 10 bucks for it.  some times saving a few minutes turns into costing a few hours.  not sure when I can get up to see your place, but keep the coffee on just in case!  best regards.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 26, 2019, 04:44:23 PM
Skip,

   I missed your thread about the incident up at Wheeling Pitt. I worked up there for 2 years around 2000 staying in an apartment in Wierton overlooking the Welcome to PA sign then driving to Steubenville and down to Mingo Jct. We replaced their maintenance management system I was the implementer setting things up and teaching the guys to use the product. They were a pretty good bunch of guys to work with as a client.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: lxskllr on May 26, 2019, 04:48:23 PM
Dumb stuff? Not milling, but I screwed up laying out piles in a bridge abutment a few weeks ago. I have no idea what happened. Blew the computations, and laid it out. Everyone screws stuff up. If you aren't screwing up you aren't trying, but I try to leave it to the tricky stuff. There was no reason for messing up the piles. Still paying it off a bit at a time; $1.1k in extra concrete to cover it up  :^S
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: clww on May 26, 2019, 06:15:19 PM
OK, guess it's my turn in the chute: SO I am milling this oddball crotch today and having a heck of a time fitting it in. I shimmed it all over and one of the guide guides got hung up on a shim and couldn't pass it by, so I grabbed a dead blow hammer just to tap the shim to get it to snap over the blade guide. Guess I gt a little too close and the bad grabbed it, sucked it in and jammed up solid.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF2554.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1558902494)
 

I missed the steel insert in the head, but let most of the shot out of it. No big deal. I had just reclaimed this mallet for a dumpster at work. No big investment, just feeling pretty dumb. It was hot, I was tired and my brain just farted.


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF2553.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1558902530)

Oh my! Glad that wasnít your hand. Be careful.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 26, 2019, 08:38:26 PM
Did something dumb this afternoon. Sitting in the ER now.  Been here a couple of hours.  It is better to joint wood rather than your finger.  It is not a pretty sight  :).  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: DbltreeBelgians on May 26, 2019, 08:49:12 PM
Sorry to hear that Danny. Sure hope all turns out ok.

Brent 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 26, 2019, 08:55:16 PM
Did something dumb this afternoon. Sitting in the ER now.  Been here a couple of hours.  It is better to joint wood rather than your finger.  It is not a pretty sight  :).  
AH man! That  sucks. :( I hope everything grows back.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 26, 2019, 09:01:00 PM
Well Danny, that explains why you havenít responded to my messages I sent you about a kiln.  Lol.  So far, I only have jointed wood, but I have biscuit joinered my finger.  Thatís not pretty either.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 26, 2019, 09:15:32 PM
  refill it with shot and wrap in camo duct tape.  one of your neighbors will prob. offer you 10 bucks for it.  some times saving a few minutes turns into costing a few hours.  not sure when I can get up to see your place, but keep the coffee on just in case!  best regards.
I don't think it was worth 10 bucks when it was new and this one had one face pretty much worn off. I just grabbed it because it was perfect for tapping the log clamps in and out instead of my fist. Even without the shot it does that just fine. The camo tape idea is something I should think about that. I could outfit an entire shop with the stuff I find in dumpsters.
 I am always prepared to make fresh coffee when company shows up. I also have an unopened bottle of Johnny Walker Black in there for the same reason.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 26, 2019, 09:55:30 PM
Did something dumb this afternoon. Sitting in the ER now.  Been here a couple of hours.  It is better to joint wood rather than your finger.  It is not a pretty sight  :).  
you know, fingers need joints too! what no pics?  :D hope it turns out well.  will hurt long enough to make you more careful in the future... for a while!  biscuit or regular jointer.  in all seriousness, good luck.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 26, 2019, 09:56:48 PM
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) i would love to come visit, it is a way, so I promise not to show up unannounced!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: CabinCreations on May 26, 2019, 09:58:49 PM
WV,

Iím pretty sure I lived at the same apartment for a while - directly across from the Weirton Hospital? I work in Weirton but live in PA now. I travel near your current location quite often for meetings too.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 26, 2019, 10:05:50 PM
12Ē jointer with spiral cutterhead.  Unfortunately those carbide inserts cut more than wood.  Still in ER. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: stanwelch on May 26, 2019, 11:07:23 PM
WDH - sorry to hear about your planed finger my friend. I hope the docs were able to make repairs. Right hand or left? yikes_smiley 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on May 27, 2019, 06:00:27 AM
WDH,good luck to ya. Hope all will be well.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Skip on May 27, 2019, 09:01:43 AM
Happened at Beech Bottom loading roof decking, real spingy, . All that and most of Weirton steel all gone now .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 27, 2019, 09:03:49 AM
Danny, that is a lot of knives coming at you.  Get feeling better.  When I was making knife scabbards and getting home at 1 am, I would try to do a little project before bed.  I ran my thumb right into the band saw blade.  talk about a composite, walnut maple blood and tissue healed up nice but did not win any awards.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 27, 2019, 09:07:28 AM
I hope youíre all patched up and on the mend this morning, Danny.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RichTired on May 27, 2019, 09:49:57 AM
Danny,
   Wishing you a speedy recovery!

Richard
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 27, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
@WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) how did you make out at the ER? you gonna heal up OK? Hoping for the best, that's a nasty way to get hurt.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: tule peak timber on May 27, 2019, 02:29:03 PM
The best to your recovery. Rob
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 27, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Danny,

   Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I hope it wasn't your boiled peanut shucking and hushpuppy frying finger. My old roommate got his finger shot off in Viet Nam (M-79 too close to arm) and they put it back but stiff so said it could be straight or curved and he had it curved to fit a beer can.

Skip,

   Beech botom was where they did the painting. Across the river at Yorkville they did the galvanizing and made 5 ridge tin and such. I understand they'd paint and re-coil the steel at BB. I never understood why that did not destroy the paint but I guess not.

CC,

   Sounds pretty close if not the same. Holler at me if you are going to be down here very long.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 27, 2019, 04:22:49 PM
I was in the ER for over 6 hours from 6:00 p.m. to after midnight.  It seems that I was not the only one that had issues :).  I would post a pic, but it is not for the faint of heart, and I know that many of you have delicate constitutions.  I am recovering at home (smoking ribs, at least they are not mine ::)).  Now to the Orthopedic Doctor after the Holiday.  This kind of thing always happens to me on a Holiday weekend. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 27, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
Well, youíre feeling well enough to smoke meat.  Thatís good.  I guess keep your hand elevated and maybe have a beverage to numb the senses.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 27, 2019, 04:52:11 PM
I am managing to muddle through it.  Smoking meat is like air drying lumber.  Once you are set, you just sit back and watch, and a beverage helps with the watching. 

On my left hand, I am using a few different fingers to type, so a lot of back-spacing and correcting :) :).  I don't think that I am permanently maimed, just a little bit dis-figured on one digit if everything heals. 

Sitting and watching with a beverage is conducive to reflection on being DUMB, though.  It is not free. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 27, 2019, 05:05:41 PM
glad you are home and still will have a digit to type with.  It does slow a guy down.  which finger, and what happened?  kick back on the board?  My mentor Kenny Skeels lost his L pinky on a table saw, he tried to keep it and took months and never healed.  they took it off and the stub always caught on his jeans pocket.  He recently lost another, he is in his 80s and his wife wont let him play with big boy tools anymore. could be worse.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 27, 2019, 05:22:14 PM
I would post a pic, but it is not for the faint of heart, and I know that many of you have delicate constitutions.


Are we on the same Forum? :)

Seriously, that is not fun and you are lucky that blade did not get a good hold and suck more of you in. Sounds like your philosophy and sense of humor and place are intact. That's a big deal. Rest up, take time and heal. Try not to beat yourself up every time you look at it for the next 6 months.
I have driven a LOT of guys to the hospital after incidents similar to yours and universally they all say the EXACT same thing: "Boy, that was stupid". And, just to be fair, I have uttered those very same words myself as I sat in the E/D. You are not alone.
At least folks won't have to start calling you 'Lefty'. (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Heal well man.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 27, 2019, 05:32:10 PM
The left pinkie.  It is a little bit shorter now.  Never knew that it was so important.  This big honking bandage gets in the way of everything.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tom the Sawyer on May 27, 2019, 05:49:44 PM
Danny,

Ouch, that struck a chord.  
Don't fret, hope it heals up without too much throbbing.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Mossy Chariot on May 27, 2019, 08:58:09 PM
Danny,
Hate to hear when anyone has an accident that puts them at the ER. I kept thinking maybe itís not too serious since theyíre making him wait half the night. Worried this morning when we hadnít heard from you for a while. Glad to see your back on the forum. Heal fast!!!!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 27, 2019, 09:11:21 PM
it is interesting.  just got home from a 7 to 7 shift.  we see 25,000 pt. a year so 68 average per day, on holidays it goes up.  We saw 55 pt. from 7am until 5:30 pm today.  prev. 24 hours they saw 90.  so number go up, but same staff usually.  Danny I am glad you  are ok.  hope now that the finger is shorter it will stay out of the way. :)  best regards.  Doc.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: clww on May 27, 2019, 09:32:05 PM
Hope it heals up soon, Danny! I severed the last digit of my right hand pinkie finger about 10 years ago while splitting some big wood. Rolling a half of a big oak round off the splitter deck and caught it between that piece and a section of the trunk. Took it off like a pair of scissors. OUCH X3!! Awesome surgeon sewed it back on. Took a bunch of antibiotics for a few weeks and itís still there, even though I have generally no feeling in it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Dan_Shade on May 27, 2019, 09:58:11 PM
I hope you heal up quickly, Danny. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: PC-Urban-Sawyer on May 28, 2019, 12:52:38 AM
My Dad injured the pinkie and ring finger of his left hand when he slipped and his fingers went into the cutter head of a 6" Craftsman jointer. The guard had been removed. He wound up losing the first two joints on both fingers...

Hope you heal up quick and without complications...

Herb
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: DWyatt on May 28, 2019, 06:49:28 AM
My high school shop teacher had his safety talk about the jointer every year which involved showing us picture of his uncle's hand and all his fingers were the same length. Sure taught me to edge joint with my fingers curled up rather than sticking straight down. 

Hope you heal up well! When I nicked my thumb on the table saw it took about 3 years to get full feeling back, still hurts more when I hit that thumb on stuff.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on May 28, 2019, 08:52:19 AM
Mr. Hamsley Sir:
When jointing wood it is not necessary to sign your work in BLOOD.
When you get the bill for your little episode you will then realize the high cost of education.
Education, in this case, is why it is best to allow clearance between flesh and bones and rotating high speed steel.
Hope you get well real soon.
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 28, 2019, 08:34:20 PM
Here I am sitting at the computer and my education is throbbing :).  It won't let me forget, not for a while anyway. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 28, 2019, 08:41:06 PM
I can just imagine.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 28, 2019, 09:30:10 PM
Here I am sitting at the computer and my education is throbbing :).  It won't let me forget, not for a while anyway.
At least you only got a masters, and not a Phd.    :P   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 29, 2019, 07:42:06 AM
You are right.  At least it is only about half the finger tip from the last little knuckle to the finger tip lengthwise, not crosswise.  If you drew a line from the last little knuckle straight to the tip centering the line in the middle of the nail, one side of the line is gone.  The ER Doc called it an avulsion versus a cut since it is more of a ragged tear. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on May 29, 2019, 08:17:41 AM
I hates to saw "avulsions".  :-X
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on May 29, 2019, 08:50:42 AM
I am averse to avulsions.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ed_K on May 29, 2019, 09:05:53 AM
 I'm right there with you, got a tooth pulled last Fri. an it's not doing to good :(.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 29, 2019, 09:18:33 AM
Yes, many woodworking injuries are avulsions.  A word I learned long ago in EMT school.  My biscuit cutter injury was definitely an avulsion.  The sutures to fix it were kind of a star shape to pull everything back together.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on May 29, 2019, 09:26:12 AM
It must be a virtuosic thang.  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on May 29, 2019, 12:26:39 PM
Danny sorry to hear of the jointer bite!  did your hand slip of was the pinky just wondering too close to the table?

I did a dumb thing about 2 weeks ago.  I was preparing to sand some oak scraps to test some stains.  With the belt sander running and I wondered if the grit was ok for the task.  My left pointer finger moved before the brain engaged to tell my right pointer to release the trigger.  The result was the loss of the entire finger nail on the left pointer!  Fortunately the mental bashing of the dumb move and embarrassment of having to tell others what happened was much worse than the pain!

I currently have a 25 lb lifting restriction because of a cervical fusion and wearing a hard surgical boot because of foot surgery.  When I came upstairs (shop in basement) with blood running down the finger my wife asked what I did now!?!  She went on to say that I was grounded.  She is getting tired of nursing me! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 29, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
What did ya have on there 24 grit?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 29, 2019, 06:07:43 PM
Most tool injuries including knives and screwdrivers, saws and such are to the non dominant hand since we firmly hold them with our dominant hand.  accidental as well as non accidental trauma
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: tule peak timber on May 29, 2019, 06:37:24 PM
Doc, here is a plywood injury. It happened to me last summer. It also got my head, back and legs. >:(
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/35190/arm~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1559169413)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 29, 2019, 06:47:45 PM
be careful, we are not as young as we used to be.  
adds new meaning to the work Laminectomy,  (get it laminate/plywood!)  sorry for the med humor.  I only did not like your comment cause I did not want you to think that I liked your injury.   :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 29, 2019, 08:25:17 PM
Sam,

The stupid thing was that I was wearing a glove.  That is a no-no.  The cutterhead caught the glove and pulled my hand down into it.  It I had not been wearing the glove, it would not have happened. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on May 29, 2019, 08:53:06 PM
Thatís a good point about the gloves. Sometimes I wear gloves when running the jointer because of the super sharp corners. Time to rethink that. Maybe cut the fingertips off the gloves.

Good to know youíre on the mend with minimal damage.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 29, 2019, 09:01:00 PM

Oh man!  Proof that gloves are a bad idea when woodworking.
Well, heís got one glove with no fingertip.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 29, 2019, 10:28:29 PM
my dad was a truck driver,  he always had a pair of leather gloves on, or in his L hand, or back pocket.  I swear he would go from on to off 5 times a minute but he did it without even thinking about it.  They can be a limb saver, but nothing loose around moving equipment.  Insurance is cheapest for pilots between 100 hours and 500 hours.  too little experience, or too much confidence are neither a good thing.  We are all one spit second away from weeks of pain and poss. disability.  God Speed Danny.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 29, 2019, 10:55:54 PM
Dang Danny,
Can't leave you alone for 5 minutes.
Hope you heal pretty quick.

Does this mean you'll be using a Capo on your Bass?
Will you be tuning a half step down?
Maybe only 3 strings on your Bass now?

Seriously, I hate this happened. Be careful.....I've come close too.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on May 29, 2019, 11:39:30 PM
Danny - Hope you are feeling better soon, just caught up on this thread, guess that explains why you never texted me back the other day.  I was reading this and hoping you didn't say that you were suddenly distracted by a text when this happened.   :-X

If it makes you feel any better I did manage to shoot myself in the hand with a framing nailer once, while up on an extension ladder to just make the whole experience that much more interesting.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: alan gage on May 29, 2019, 11:43:54 PM
Sam,

The stupid thing was that I was wearing a glove.  That is a no-no.  The cutterhead caught the glove and pulled my hand down into it.  It I had not been wearing the glove, it would not have happened.
Thanks for sharing what caused it. I'm hoping to hold onto 10 full fingers as long as possible and it's good to (hopefully) learn from other's mishaps. Heal well.
Alan
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 30, 2019, 06:26:58 AM
Heal fast, my friend. When I cut myself I use super glue, works great. ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: hopm on May 30, 2019, 07:20:38 AM
Lotsa pain been listed on this post and it made me MUCH more cautious in my shop last night!! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 30, 2019, 07:43:07 AM
 
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/IMG_2824.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1559216499)
 

Also got me below the thumb, but it was just a cut.  :) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: LeeB on May 30, 2019, 07:53:20 AM
Real lucky it didn't drag your whole hand in there.  :o

Every time I see or read about something like this makes me remember I should use push sticks but I rarely do. I suspect I'll pay for the education at some point too.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on May 30, 2019, 08:04:00 AM
Oh no, now even you have an extra right hand glove:  Rights (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=103630.msg1610270#msg1610270)  It's either a conspiracy or proves that the rights are slowly winning and the lefts are loosing.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on May 30, 2019, 08:33:08 AM
Firefighter,  It was only about 100 grit or so but it sure acted like it was sticky!

Danny,  Thanks for sharing how this happened.  As Alan stated it is good to learn from others experiences and learn from them on how to change our practices or at least know proper technics.  Does not mean we will put into practice what we learned! ::)   Thus we post here. :o 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 30, 2019, 09:01:52 AM
Something fascinating about a spinning object.  We had a blue healer that would run up and bite turning wheels on a lawn mower, he just could not help himself.  His name was scout, from to kill a mocking bird
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: YellowHammer on May 30, 2019, 09:06:53 AM
Wow, hope you heal up.  Those gloves will get you.  If you need a vacation, take a drive up to New Market and Iíll feed you some steak and we can take a one handed cane pole down to the pond.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: red on May 30, 2019, 09:54:50 AM
Glad you are on the mend
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 30, 2019, 10:05:10 AM
Danny,

   I hope you heal up soon and completely and that this does not mean you get a 10% discount on your next manicure. ???

    I lost a fingernail on my right little finger this week. Came off from mashing it on the side of my FEL loading about a 3' maple log/section a month or so back. Turned black and finally I looked down and it had just peeled back.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 30, 2019, 10:44:21 AM
Yes when you get black under the nail, that is blood. and it will hydraulically separate the nail.  nail material is basically like hair, and feels no pain and can be melted.  so if there is a thick enough layer of blood, you can drill with a bit or needle, or heat something like a paper clip,  the key is to stop when the blood spurts so as to not damage the very sensitive tissue below.  this will relieve the pressure and maybe save the nail.  
Danny, I wonder if the local salon could glue you on a fake nail in the future.  choice of color is up to you ;) :D :D :D
My mentor Kenny Skeels had a lot of fun with his.  with a short stub he could really fake pickin his nose, and make you pull back a little if you were shaking his hand for the first time. (he would wiggle his pinky stub!)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 30, 2019, 01:09:25 PM
Ditto what Doc said, but let me add a little caution. If the digit is throbbing with pain, when you release the pressure it can be 'energetic' and also cause your ears to ring and vision blur for a second as the nerves beneath adjust to the pressure change. Shortly after, you should feel a WHOLE lot better. I have done this a time or two. Usually there is little issue, but those big ones, oh boy!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 03, 2019, 11:14:39 AM
Well @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370)  almost karma.  I have a little Bosch palm router.  I always have a 1/8 " round-over bit for softening the edges of almost everything I make.  I make oriole feeders to put the cups of grape jelly in, and I use a hole saw to make the two holes and use a router to make a grove for the top of the cup to seat in.  so left in the same bit, but adjusted the bit lower to also make a groove.  I use this setup so often, I can start and use it with one hand.  turned it on and assumed my usual grip, and felt a sudden intense burning feeling to my R little pinky.  It hurt bad enough that I had to look to investigate the damage.  sure enough 1/2 my finger was still attached and the other half was Ö dut, dut, dah!!!  still attached also.  got lucky and thought of danny almost immediately.  It was red from contacting the collet since the opening had now moved to where I always rest my finger.  great respect for things turning at 20,000 rpms.  will add pic later.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 03, 2019, 02:48:43 PM
putting finish on the wedding gift, the red mark is gone.  got off easy compared to @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) 


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51041/EAA48A1C-E65E-418F-B6F0-5D843B25BD04.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1559587628)
 


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51041/DD3FDD32-98DD-4730-B6F5-688EABB0C651.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1559587649)
 

the top is painted orange, and is a stove burner cover and the cups also are from the WM kitchen isles
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on June 03, 2019, 08:57:21 PM
You are living right, Doc.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on June 04, 2019, 09:56:37 AM
Close call on the router, glad it was your day to avoid an injury!  Very nice feeder with the engraving makes a great gift.  
Great job.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: YellowHammer on June 04, 2019, 06:43:43 PM
Yep, must be living right.  

Karma will always let you know sheís watching.  

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Brian C. on June 05, 2019, 07:59:56 AM
Danny, Danny Danny. There are better ways to trim your nails.

Glad it wasn't any worse and enough beverages can numb the feeling of pain or make you not care.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: armechanic on June 05, 2019, 08:46:22 AM
I did something dumb yesterday,  I didn't fire up the LT40 and saw any logs.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on June 05, 2019, 03:13:46 PM
Mondayís are Mondayís! I grabbed a couple of my Dadís axes when he passed in 2004, one of which looks as if it drove a number of fence posts over the years. The eye looks like itís started to bulge the slightest amount and the handle was in pretty sad shape. Decided time to do something with it so thought Iíd see if it would sharpen up and it did with some time n elbow grease. Nice n sharp! Been sitting for a few weeks, recently bought a new handle, grabbed the axe head, looking it over to see how best to get the old wood out of the eye and it slipped in n through my hand, bent over to pick it up and saw blood dripping. Never felt it but it sliced my left pinky in good shape! Put some super glue on my finger n wrapped some black electricians tape around it. Canít wait to get that old heavy head hung to see how it tackles limbing, fingers doing fine..
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 05, 2019, 09:11:48 PM
Super glue is the best. Just be sure to clean the cut good first.
Sometimes I use a plastic scrubber with peroxide then glue.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 06, 2019, 09:15:45 PM
Oh that hot feeling where you know something is not right, but how bad youíre not sure.  I was using an angle grinder with a thin cut off wheel to cut steel.  I was not using the guard or the little screw in handle.  It felt like my glove got really hot.  There was a clean cut thru the glove and a nice cut in my finger.  Put a bandaid on and went back to work.....and did it again.  I put the handle on after that.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: alan gage on June 06, 2019, 10:02:36 PM
When I got my first planer I, for some unknown reason, very lightly ran my finger down the length of one of the blades. But certainly not pressing hard enough to get cut. About halfway down the blade I started to wonder why the blade was burning my finger. It certainly couldn't be hot. Pulled my finger away and found a nice deep cut. Guess those blades are sharp.

Alan
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on June 30, 2019, 04:33:46 PM
So I needed 4 bolts to replace the 4 that are used to adjust the head position on my B-20. They keep coming loose and I believe the best way to keep them tight is to start with new bolts. So I drove 15 minutes to the local auto parts store, didnít have them. Drove another 10 minutes to the heavy equipment dealership, nope but would be happy to order them. No thank you. So on another 15 minutes to a Manufacture Supply store. YES! Itís Friday afternoon, hot and I sure would like to get this project started. Get the 4 bolts, 8 flat washers, 8 lock washers and the 12 nuts needed, go to check out counter, pay and head home. Grandson is with me and since we skipped lunch to run this errand we stop for a bite to eat, another half hour out of my way. Finally get home, couple chores to do before working on the mill. Get the tools out and set up to work. Wouldnít you know coarse thread bolts n fine thread nuts. The excitement of finding the bolts over powered the common sense to double check. That was dumb, now a second trip to make it right😟
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 30, 2019, 09:28:15 PM
@crowhill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=14684) , i bet if you get them to tighten down, they will not loosen up any time soon. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on July 01, 2019, 05:11:43 AM
@crowhill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=14684) , i bet if you get them to tighten down, they will not loosen up any time soon. :D
For sure since I jumped them up to a grade 8!😂
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on July 01, 2019, 11:04:45 AM
If you tack weld the nut to the bolt that should end the loosening issues.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 01, 2019, 01:49:19 PM
loctite, marring the thread a little, or "dimpled" lock nuts or nylox nuts, may also help.  i also like to double nut some bolts to lock them if they have room and a recurring problem.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 01, 2019, 07:42:38 PM
Good to see you guys are keeping this thread alive.  My most recent very dumb thing did not actually happen to me, but one of my firefighters.  We were working on a bus that we will use for training.  He hit a pry bar with a sledge hammer.  I noticed a tiny red spot develop on his arm.  Within seconds blood was squirting out like a garden hose.  A sliver of metal had broken off the bar and went in his forearm.  I spent the next 7 hours at the ER with him.  They brought in a plastic surgeon to try and get the metal out.  Well, he couldnít find it, so my guy will live with a sliver of metal.  PSA announcement......wear PPE everywhere.  He was wearing safety glasses, but.....

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36921/99F2EF71-94FA-4852-B087-DD1B633693C5.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1562024543)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 01, 2019, 07:55:56 PM
was it a pry bar or a haligan? A haligan should have taken that hit, but a pry bar is too hard and brittle. I have seen then shatter many times. Sorry for your Brother. I sense a tailboard talk coming on. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on July 01, 2019, 08:16:20 PM
I worked with a guy whose wife was taking care of fire wood as he was splitting the chunks with a maul and wedges that were very badly mushroomed on the top. A piece of that mushroom steel broke off as he hit the wedge and flew into leg just missing the femur artery, missed close enough she spent a couple days in the hospital, never did get that piece out.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 01, 2019, 08:38:46 PM
We all knew better, as it was a pry bar.  He didnít even hit it that hard.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on July 01, 2019, 09:12:11 PM
I have a bunch of 3/4" foundation stakes in various lengths that I've picked up for free off CL.  I got about a dozen that were badly mushroomed (must have been driving them in concrete!).  I spent an hour grinding them clean.  Probably should have just cut the top end off!  Also had an old steel splitting wedge that too a lot of grinding to make it safe again.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: luap on July 01, 2019, 09:22:17 PM
Good to see you guys are keeping this thread alive.  My most recent very dumb thing did not actually happen to me, but one of my firefighters.  We were working on a bus that we will use for training.  He hit a pry bar with a sledge hammer.  I noticed a tiny red spot develop on his arm.  Within seconds blood was squirting out like a garden hose.  A sliver of metal had broken off the bar and went in his forearm.  I spent the next 7 hours at the ER with him.  They brought in a plastic surgeon to try and get the metal out.  Well, he couldnít find it, so my guy will live with a sliver of metal.  PSA announcement......wear PPE everywhere.  He was wearing safety glasses, but.....

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36921/99F2EF71-94FA-4852-B087-DD1B633693C5.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1562024543)

Bad news if he ever has to have an MRI.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on July 01, 2019, 09:31:59 PM
Bad news if he ever has to have an MRI.
Naw, that will just pull it out! :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 01, 2019, 09:40:10 PM
Thatís what we both said at the ER.  Just put him in mri and pull it out.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 02, 2019, 12:23:33 AM
had a guy running a metal muncher press, and some of the die popped off and hit him in the lip.  sewed up his lip and he when he came back to have stitches out, he asked, "what is the lump in my cheek?"  did an x ray and there was the metal, it tracked through the soft tissue of his cheek, from his lip.  spent an hour taking that out, then more stitches.  he thought it was funny, but I learned to do the x ray in the first place.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 02, 2019, 06:08:34 AM
That's bull, can't find it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ianab on July 02, 2019, 06:40:38 AM
It's possible the bleeding actually flushed it back out of the wound?

If there was a chunk of metal left in there it would show as a definite spot on an X-ray. 

Other option is that it's already moved to some other part of the body, but if you still alive, that's probably not the case?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 02, 2019, 08:40:06 AM
I am pretty sure you can see the dot in the middle of the x-ray. There is a lot of sift tissue in there they will capture it eventually, assuming it doesn't go for a walk about first. Doc can say better, but I think if it develops an infection, it will be much easier to find and remove.
 I understand why everyone thinks if they know it's there, they should be able to find it, but if you have ever worked down inside live tissue, it can be a confusing places with lots of colors and camouflage and hiding spots. Add to that the fluids, blood, etc. and it is like trying to hand dig rocks out of a hole that is flooding faster than you can dig. It really isn't as easy as one might think it should be. That fleck in this one looks really small.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 02, 2019, 08:43:39 AM
looks like a white spec overlying the bone on the x ray.  soft tissue foreign bodies have consumed a fair amount of my life.  spent 4 hours on a sliver of wood to the butt, and 2 hours on a bb I could feel.  you have to be a little careful what you are cutting through to get it.  that is why we leave in bullets sometimes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 02, 2019, 09:12:17 AM
Ha, you know I still have (whatever is left of) a BB in my butt from when I got shot at age 16. It has given me less trouble these last 15 years though, so I think it's pretty much gone. Being shot where I was, it was hard to find a friend to dig it out (that's when you find out who your real friends are), so I left it. If they guy that shot me wasn't a coward and shot me from behind, I could probably have gotten it out myself. But I have never actually seen it, so.... ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 02, 2019, 10:20:49 AM
the body will wall it off and or in the process, form a tract to the surface and spit it out.  I will leave the "pain in the asthma"  jokes to you @Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 02, 2019, 10:53:57 AM
 I will leave the "pain in the asthma"  jokes to you @Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)
Thanks, butt I am not going there. ;D
 That BB gave me a recurring boil on my butt for 20 years. Funny story from that: The guy that shot me faded off into memory and I had no contact with him. Years later when my wife and I married we were at our reception and I ran into the catering hall Chef, and guess who it was? So I thanked him for making up for shooting me with a fine dinner and let it go at that. Still wish I could have shot back. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 02, 2019, 11:17:29 AM
had a kid come in at 2 am.  he was having a sleep over and had got shot in the arm accidentally while showing friends his bb gun.  his dad was still sleeping as there were strict rules regarding the bb guns.  so his mom snuck him in, but on x ray we found a second bb, so I a little gruff and interrogated him.  I was able to "break" the pre teen and he admitted they were playing bb gun wars.  He was far more concerned with what dad would have to say when he found out!

fudd-smiley          smiley_crying
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 02, 2019, 01:09:12 PM
No BB gun wars in my past. I was shot by a sniper. I didn't find out who did it for about 2 years then somebody let it slip.
 AH, to be young and dumb, and full of........stupidity.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on July 02, 2019, 05:30:57 PM
got a peice of sledge hammer in my hand for about 10 years.  went in the web between the thumb and first finger.  lodged about an inch and half in.  wife couldnt find it.  couple more peices came off that sledge and I sawed the handle off so it couldnt be used again.  Son got a bb in his stomach from his sister.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 02, 2019, 10:29:56 PM
   I stepped on a piece of glass in a local creek as a kid and a piece about the size of the end of a cooked grain of rice broke off deep in there and healed over as Doc described. Was in the center of my foot so when I stepped on a raised surface like a root or stone or such there I'd get a twinge. After 5-6 years I got tired of it and went to the doctor who dug deeply and it bled profusely then healed back the same. He could not see it on X-ray so said he did not know if he had gotten it. I finally started putting iodine on it and that killed the tough skin around it till it came to the surface and I opened it with a needle and removed it. Heck. it might have been on its way out anyway and the iodine might not have helped but I heard iodine would kill warts and such and figured the callused skin was about like a wart. Bottom line is it got gone and I don't miss it one bit.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Oliver05262 on July 03, 2019, 07:06:53 PM
When I was a kid, Ma would put a dab of Ergophene ointment over a splinter or other object buried in my hand or elsewhere and put a band-aid over it and in a day or so the splinter would be on or near the surface and easy to remove. You canít buy the stuff today, but there is another ďdrawing salveĒ available.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on July 03, 2019, 09:16:42 PM
Ahh the good old days of BB gun wars!!!  Good to see some kids still do it and it does not end up in an FBI raid complete with helicopters!!  We adhered to the the "only one pump" rule growing up.   ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 03, 2019, 09:33:55 PM
I think were the old daisy where one pump was it.  and yes, we are required to report to law enforcement and child protective services as a gun shot.  my pt. prob would have liked to go to juvi as his dad had laid down the law in the past.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on July 03, 2019, 10:02:46 PM
we are required to report to law enforcement and child protective services as a gun shot


Wow - I guess I get that, but geesh, it was just part of being a dumb kid and growing up, along with eating lead paint, riding in the bed of a pickup holding onto a heifer, trying to make nitroglycerin in chemistry class...;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 03, 2019, 10:53:36 PM
no wonder kids do not know how to do anything! right?  I know, it is the near death learning experiences that give us this spidey senses that keep us alive later in life!!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: rjwoelk on July 04, 2019, 09:50:01 PM
Southside. You forgot pipe cannons loaded with ball bearings. Light fuse and run. Yup good old days. Here in canada can't get firecrackers. Sad day that law came in.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 05, 2019, 08:00:02 PM
My buddy went back for a follow up with a different doctor.  He did another X-ray, one that was real time.  Turns out the sliver of metal was over an inch away from where the surgeon was looking for it.  Decided to leave it there.  I think the piece was only 5mm long.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 05, 2019, 08:28:56 PM
things can migrate, I have worked for hours under flouro (real time x-ray) and can feel something, see it on x-ray, and still not find it to remove.  Like having something in bathwater and you try to grab it and it keep floating away.  FFOTS,  that metal looked like 1/2 centimeter to me! :D :D :D.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 05, 2019, 10:11:49 PM
You say tomato.....I say tomato.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jimparamedic on July 06, 2019, 06:26:28 PM
During Paramedic rotation in ER 14 yr M GSW to left chest coming in buy squad. Everyone took a beep breath then medic on squad said it was a BB gun surgeon said oh so no big deal then medic report it was a sucking chest wound. turned out it was a high powered pellet rifle he was hit just below the collar bone went in at the 3rd intercostal and was laying on the diaphragm. He laying in waiting behind a knoll when his bubby shot him. he got a chest tube and a trip to Children's by Bird. Was very it only nicked his lung missed everything else.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on July 07, 2019, 07:45:13 AM
We can never be too careful with our guns. Been hunting since I was 6 years old. Have a deer camp. Late one evening all coming together not far from camp, chatted, started walking single file toward camp, one gun discharged, whoa! Itís dark, guns should be empty! Was told it just discharged!? Really? Once in camp, two of the group took the gun and tried to determine the ďit just discharged theoryĒ, they are pretty good at gun repair and modification. Absolutely no reason for a misfire. A teenager made a mistake, he was asked to leave and to think about the rules of safely handling a gun and to come back the following week-end. Tough lesson but no room for error and stated he pulled the trigger checking the safety but while pointed toward the ground.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 02, 2019, 06:19:46 PM
Itís been a long time since I did something dumb, well maybe not that long.  Yesterday I was standing on the tailgate of my F350.  That thing is about 42Ē off the ground.  I heard the phone ringing in the house so I tried to step down with my left leg.  Iím not tall enough to do that, so when the left leg went down as far as it could the rest of me fell off.  I landed on my rear and my back.  I donít know how, but I was not really injured.  My ankle was funky for an hour or so and my shoulder was sore last night, but thatís it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: breederman on August 02, 2019, 06:29:28 PM
Ouch.  I put a ladder on my tail gate so I can climb in and out. Sometimes it's in the way and I have to fold it out to use the gate. But for what I use the truck for it is great.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 02, 2019, 06:58:13 PM
FFOS,

   Glad you are not seriously injured than a few bruises and a little ego damage. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on August 02, 2019, 09:14:13 PM
I did something dumb today. I drove through canada on the way to the pigroast. That was seriously dumb. Took me 11 hours to get here.

I will never do that again. border crossing are BS!!!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 02, 2019, 09:15:29 PM
The stupid thing is that my tailgate has one of those pullout steps.  I rarely use it.  Maybe I should.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: breederman on August 02, 2019, 09:16:06 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on August 02, 2019, 09:21:50 PM
That is one of the options I did not get that I wish I had.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Mike W on August 02, 2019, 09:34:13 PM
Man, this topic sat dormant for a few weeks, just thought everyone was staying in doors out of the heat and not doing anything at all.  It's daily that I feel I do something dumb, even if it's only me that feels that way.

Glad it was only a minor mishap you had there FFOS, had a sub on a project a while back that did something very similar, landed on his backside, but there was a good size rock where he landed and cracked his tailbone, took months to heal and he looked in a lot of pain.

Bummer you had such a hard time at the border @Crusarius (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059), that does suck.  Can't speak to your side of the country, we live like right at the border, in fact could hit it with a rock (not recommended) from here.  Albeit, we are seriously in the middle of nowhere, the border is only open from 9 to 5 daily, they actually roll up the sidewalks at 5 and we see no traffic at all the rest of the day.  Own a store and have thousands of Canadian customers which hundreds frequent our facility daily to pick up goods ordered on line, and there is a fluid motion to and fro across this border, but as mentioned we are in nowhere land and that may be the big caveat, not being where any significant population is near, have a great time at the roast, wish I was able to attend, better planning next year might be in the cards.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on August 02, 2019, 09:38:11 PM
I was crossing at niagara falls and ummm somewhere into michigan. Unfortunately there is water eeverywhere except those 2 bridges so it gets quite backed up.

I only went through canada cause I was after a change or scenerey from the states. Funny thing was it looked exactly the same if not worse. Much less country the way I went to much city.

Oh well. I made it and think I am going to bed. need to be fresh for tomorrow. I hear there is a pig that needs devouring :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on August 03, 2019, 06:29:14 AM
I did something dumb today. I drove through canada on the way to the pigroast. That was seriously dumb. Took me 11 hours to get here.

I will never do that again. border crossing are BS!!!!
I tried to tell ya!
Todays company at the pr will make it worth the trip. 
mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 03, 2019, 07:43:14 AM
9 5/8" -4 5/8" = 5 5/8".... :-[  at least it was elm.... 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 03, 2019, 08:56:35 AM
    That Nebraska math must be different than ours. ???
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on August 03, 2019, 11:57:03 AM
9 5/8" -4 5/8" = 5 5/8".... :-[  at least it was elm....


Well can't laugh at ya, done similar only to realize too late.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 03, 2019, 12:28:26 PM
9 5/8" -4 5/8" = 5 5/8".... :-[  at least it was elm....
OH, I surely cannot laugh at you for that. I worked the night shift last night, sleep cycle is messed up, had a couple of 'cokes' when I got home, then got up and read your post before I had my first 3 cups of coffee. I sat here and looked at your math and thought "What? That looks right to me." took me a full minute to clear my head enough to realize what we both did.  AT least it was elm. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on August 03, 2019, 01:01:12 PM
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) 

Don't go look at trucks today!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 03, 2019, 01:14:15 PM
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)

Don't go look at trucks today!!
Funny you should mention that, I was just on my way out. But not to worry, I have finished my 12 cup pot and had a few hours to wake up. I am as fresh as a wilted daisy now. Also, my banker/wife is 3,000 miles away and I barely have enough cash in my pocket for a tiny good faith deposit. I am not buying today (at least that is not my plan).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 03, 2019, 06:28:26 PM
I made a nice 9ft 7inch x 5 inch x 12 ish inch can't that was supposed to be 5 5/8 thick to set aside to dry for a couple years to be part of a log wall on the front of a little she shed cabin by the pond. I finished the cut shut off the blade, idled it down, set off the flitch looked down looked at the correct dimensioned logs on the pile, shook my headrealizing what I had done....got the tractor moved out of the wondering now what are you going to do with THAT now...Then realized my lube was still  on....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Mike W on August 03, 2019, 09:25:42 PM
cut em all down to 5" and state that was the plan all along ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on August 03, 2019, 11:28:48 PM
I know. I just wanted different scenery. hey guess what. That section of canada is ugly anyhow :) Would have been nicer staying in the US. That is what I will do on the way home tomorrow.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: hacknchop on August 04, 2019, 12:09:58 AM
Beauty is most definitely in the eye of the beholder. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on August 04, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
I have traveled across the border and took the 401W, then crossed over at Sault St Marie, MI just to avoid getting near Chicago!

To me, it was well worth the trip!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on August 04, 2019, 08:51:08 AM
I guess I shouldn't have posted that late lastnight. it wasn't ugly per se but it wasn't any different than staying in the US. I do really think the NY plates on the truck bring out the worst drivers around me. When I ran AZ plates I never had the issues I have with NY plates.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 28, 2019, 07:17:09 AM
Well, I guess it's to me this time. I worked a 3 day music fest setting up then running the first aid group for the event, then breaking down late Sunday afterwards. I got home in the driveway about 2am Monday morning, no moon. I had the trailer and Mule on the truck so I just pulled it in and parked it in a handy place where I usually don't park. There was no moonlight, but as it is my own place I didn't bother to pull my flashlight out of my pocket, so as I turned the corner too go up the front walk my right foot caught one of those "pretty" rocks my wife had laid along the path. I went down hard and whacked pretty good on the blue-stone walk. Cut and bled pretty good,my shirt was covered. No big deal, but it really rang my bell. I washed and cleaned it up best I could and went to bed. Now almost 3 days out my working diagnosis is that I have a mild concussion. The headache is constant and annoying, stomach never feels 'right', and I am a bit irritable. I sleep well, but get tired easy in the afternoon, pretty tired. i'll be slowing down for a while here. But at least the cut is closing up well.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF2990.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1566990943)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 28, 2019, 08:31:58 AM
OG,

  Ouch! Looks like you could use a few stitches if not too late to get them. At minimum a few steri-strips to close that gap. Probably going to have a big old keloid scar. Sounds like you need to bite the bullet and go to the horsepistol (Or as you old Noggies call it  - the Sykhus) and maybe get an X-Ray or such and a second opinion.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on August 28, 2019, 10:42:14 AM
I agree with an x-ray.  when hit with something hard enough, those blue stones are prone to fracture.  the hard part is finding someone who will x-ray a rock.  :D :D :D.  just like the crappy-est logs, we talk about the character. looks like it may be adding some.  hope you recover soon.  a ct will show fracture or bleeding inside the skull, and worrisome if on a blood thinner.  concussion is based on symptoms and you do prob. have that.  the redness around the wound is called granulation and part of the healing, not infection.  god bless.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on August 28, 2019, 11:31:47 AM
I had a locust job Saturday. Before I started I did my mandatory safety talk, including " always be careful of your fingers, the wood and the steel deck". You guessed it, second log, go to help the client remove a 4x8x10' beam and pinch my right hand middle finger between the beam and the top of the outrigger. Actually "slammed" might better describe what I did!
 It looked right at the client and said remember not to do that.
 He said he was sure I had broke it because of the sound it made. It still hurts today but I didn't break it.

mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 28, 2019, 12:44:16 PM
Yeah Doc, that stone don't look too good, but I have already replaced it with another, softer, one. I don't have any of the other fracture symptoms, no point pressure or discoloration, was more concerned about intracranial hemorrhage, which I have no indicators for. Also, no meds to mess things up, I am drug free. If I was on thinners, I would have been in the E/D that night because you don't get a lot of second chances with that. (Beer however, is a different story, but I am staying away from that until things are back to what represents normal for me.)
 
@moosehunter (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1405) : Ice may help that but just because it ain't broke doesn't mean you may not have a problem. Digits are pesky little things, you may have cut the muscle or done some good nerve damage. Keep a close eye on that, by now the pain should be pretty much gone except when you bend or use it. If that is not the case, or bending it makes you feel like heaving, you'd better get it checked out. (And Yes, this is the pot calling the kettle black, I am aware.) Good luck with it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on August 28, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
It only hurts enough to remind me what I did! Now last night when I knocked on the neighbors door with that hand,... Does that count as a continuation of the same dumb thing or is that a separate dumb thing?

mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 28, 2019, 01:53:47 PM
I think it's not a new one, I believe it is more like 'multiplier points' or something like that. ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on August 28, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
  @moosehunter (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1405)   i would ask you to post a pic, but the admin guys would prob. take it off and such, being the middle finger and all.  sorry you got pinched.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on August 28, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11405/IMG_20190828_145121677.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1567018275)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on August 28, 2019, 03:14:49 PM
It only hurts enough to remind me what I did! Now last night when I knocked on the neighbors door with that hand,... Does that count as a continuation of the same dumb thing or is that a separate dumb thing?

mh
It never fails. If I injure a finger that is the one that takes the hit every time I walk by a sharp corner or need something. Years ago I took the tip off the second finnger of my left hand in a table saw, had a splint. Every so often I would hit the underside of the dash of my pick up while rolling the window up, I would roll to the side of the road, throw it out of gear, suck wind and wipe the tears. Man, that hurt.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 28, 2019, 04:19:05 PM
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread
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I dunno, looks like you got a pretty good run toward the bone before it stopped, but There doesn't seem to be a lot of bruising, so it should heal up ok. The photos aren't the game here, or I hope not. I waited over two days to take mine, mostly because it was the only way I could see it (I am not discussing this with my wife). I should have gotten one before I cleaned myself up. I do have one of the shirt because I am going to have to get a replacement next year and I might need proof. It doesn't look as bad as it could have.  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 28, 2019, 07:36:37 PM
That looks like it hurt Old Greenhorn.  Get some rest.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 28, 2019, 07:53:01 PM
That looks like it hurt Old Greenhorn.  Get some rest.
Yeah, it kinda did, well it still does. I have a full blown schedule overloaded at work and it's nuts, so I can't take any time off. But I am taking it easy at home, just doing a few things and getting to bed early. I just wish this persistent headache would go away. The cut is pretty much dried up now, no seeping at all today and it survived the shower tonight. I'll live, always have so far. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: rjwoelk on August 30, 2019, 11:30:06 AM
I have traveled across the border and took the 401W, then crossed over at Sault St Marie, MI just to avoid getting near Chicago!

To me, it was well worth the trip!
You really took the long way around, I dont find traveling through Detroit to the border Windsor or vis versa a problem very straight forward. Chicago is busy in rush hr. but I try to plan it out to avoid it if possible.If you take Sarnia it would be better and still avoid Detroit.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on August 30, 2019, 03:11:49 PM
Well, My home is here in NY and I was stationed at Ellsworth AFB, SD!  I spent 8 years there and travelled home every other year for leave and always looked for something different!  My normal route from home was to go South on I-81 until I got to I-80, the take I-80 all the way to Sioux City, IA (to avoid the cities and the toll roads), then I-29N to Sioux Falls, SD, then I-90 to Ellsworth AFB!
So, going through Canada to Sault St Marie was a welcome change!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: rjwoelk on August 30, 2019, 11:32:34 PM
Yup that makes sense.  We have the pass for tolls and if the traffic is light can make it through Chicago with out slowing up, that would be around 8,9 PM. 

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 10:50:30 AM
Hi...
I dont know if this will work.

I fell up my unfinished concrete stairs. Now have 6 inch scar on forearm. Treated with swearing, cold water and honey!

Good luck.

T
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on August 31, 2019, 11:01:45 AM
welcome Tam, that will work... and does your honey have a name?   :D.  some folks tend to post on this thread more than others!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on August 31, 2019, 11:03:53 AM
Falling up stairs counts!  Heck falling counts!

Dropped a coiled saw blade and could not get away fast enough!  It was
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/48503/47514DB9-1E67-49F1-9A3B-8A376760F22E.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1567263748)
 like 158Ē of cat claws coming after me!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 11:24:38 AM
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread
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I dunno, looks like you got a pretty good run toward the bone before it stopped, but There doesn't seem to be a lot of bruising, so it should heal up ok. The photos aren't the game here, or I hope not. I waited over two days to take mine, mostly because it was the only way I could see it (I am not discussing this with my wife). I should have gotten one before I cleaned myself up. I do have one of the shirt because I am going to have to get a replacement next year and I might need proof. It doesn't look as bad as it could have.  ;D
I am very new and also that dreaded thing, female! I avoid doctors and hospitals like the plague. Standard comment to children, dont come running to me with a broken leg. Please smile.
They have managed a few other things...
General comment...unless you can see bone or pumping blood (arterial) I dont really bother. Head wounds, a bit different. bleed like (EDITED BY ADMIN)  If they dont I worry!
Swearing, cold water and honey, with a bit of clean old sheet works well. Not as furry as proper bandages!
Any way up. IF you still have a headache after 3 days, go to the docs. Broken fingers and toes work well when braced with ice cream sticks and tape. Electrical for preference.
And I might send you a picture of my latest patient. Broken legged 3mo hen. Bit of a limp, but 3 weeks ago could not walk!
Please laugh at me..used to it...want to ask some sensible questions.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on August 31, 2019, 11:38:46 AM
Tam, you are too funny! 😄 

We mostly laugh together here!  

Welcome!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 11:50:38 AM
Falling up stairs counts!  Heck falling counts!

Dropped a coiled saw blade and could not get away fast enough!  It was
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/48503/47514DB9-1E67-49F1-9A3B-8A376760F22E.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1567263748)
 like 158Ē of cat claws coming after me!
Ok!
Get that hairy leg up and in cool water, loads of salt. Like almost floating! It will hurt, but..
Assume not near femoral, (EDITED BY ADMIN)
You have tetanus injection?
Any sort of honey will work, proper un-past-your -eyes,  phonetic ( not messed about with is best) I cannot spell.
Leave the littlest bites uncovered. Wounds heal better uncovered.
You can to save your beauty..(lol very hairy legs)  when the scars start to form use a cold cream to soften scabs. NOT anything like the Q10 face cream stuff! Does Nivea or Ponds still exist in USA?
The Q10 stuff BURNS like fire!
I know, got impatient with a pressure cooker! No scars, but had blisters from mid forearm to mid shoulder both arms! Old fashioned Nivea, ran out..and put the Q10 stuff on instead...spent 10 minutes in the shower yelling!
Good luck..sorry old fashioned..
T
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 11:59:48 AM
Thanks,

Pretending to be a bit dumb is the mission of my life. 

Do not tell anyone I actually have a brain please :D

They would expect me to join in with "REAL LIFE".
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 12:12:02 PM
Not nearly as ugly as some of the pictures on this thread
<
I dunno, looks like you got a pretty good run toward the bone before it stopped, but There doesn't seem to be a lot of bruising, so it should heal up ok. The photos aren't the game here, or I hope not. I waited over two days to take mine, mostly because it was the only way I could see it (I am not discussing this with my wife). I should have gotten one before I cleaned myself up. I do have one of the shirt because I am going to have to get a replacement next year and I might need proof. It doesn't look as bad as it could have.  ;D
I am very new and also that dreaded thing, female! I avoid doctors and hospitals like the plague. Standard comment to children, dont come running to me with a broken leg. Please smile.
They have managed a few other things...
General comment...unless you can see bone or pumping blood (arterial) I dont really bother. Head wounds, a bit different. bleed like hell (moderators, I AM English!). If they dont I worry!
Swearing, cold water and honey, with a bit of clean old sheet works well. Not as furry as proper bandages!
Any way up. IF you still have a headache after 3 days, go to the docs. Broken fingers and toes work well when braced with ice cream sticks and tape. Electrical for preference.
And I might send you a picture of my latest patient. Broken legged 3mo hen. Bit of a limp, but 3 weeks ago could not walk!
Please laugh at me..used to it...want to ask some sensible questions.




Tam, you are too funny! 😄

We mostly laugh together here!  

Welcome!

Thanks a lot.. You BUGGER! If you offer me tartan paint, sky hooks and a long weight. I will take it under advisement!

You made me feel young again. Ta.




Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 12:25:53 PM
welcome Tam, that will work... and does your honey have a name?   :D.  some folks tend to post on this thread more than others!
Thanks for the welcome in!
Really appreciated.. made my laugh out loud, when i realised i had been spouffed!
Has not happened since I was about 19.. 

Last time it happened..I was laying a cement floor, needed ballast for the floor, hardcore in in uk speak. they got me to walk into a all male hut (girlie calenders etc) and ask for a ton of hardcore the size of my fist!

AND No my LUUVERS ( Devonian for friends) I am not actually that gullible, but thanks for the laugh!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on August 31, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
Welcome Tam - a great start to a new member. 
I saw on your 'reason to join' that you're curious about how people in the USA 'do things'. 
I believe that if you're using a lot of white oak to stay warm in Bulgaria, that the Canadians also have a lot to offer.  ;D
While the Americans are sweating through another sweltering summer - the Canadians are stocking in another 10 cords of firewood because there's a "nip in the air".
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tam Barron on August 31, 2019, 01:19:48 PM
Well, usually here it is up to 26-28deg in summer. July to Sept. Sudden and I do mean sudden, two or three day can go from 26deg to 10deg C. Daytime temps..

It can be minus 25c here for about a couple of weeks. warms up and drops again. minus 25c is sort of normal!

For about 3 to 4 months..ish!

So we do wood collection.

OH Deity. American males...LOL

Any wood produced near me should be either building material or will be burnt!

I can get my stove up to pig skull burning heat!

Laugh, direct me to the jokers who do building!

T








Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 31, 2019, 09:20:25 PM
Tam, where are you located?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on August 31, 2019, 11:18:30 PM
Tam -

Welcome to the Forum.  Would love to hear more about your part of the world, what folks do, grow, etc.  We love photos here too!! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 02, 2019, 08:38:11 PM
 I have to make a full confession, I had forgotten about this (maybe because of the concussion in my previous dumb move, but 3 days before that when I was working on festival setup and running around doing all sorts of things, I had hung my chaps on the tailgate of the truck to dry. Two hours later I had to run home to get some more power cables. I forgot about the chaps and drove the 5 miles home at about 40 MPH and when I got out of the truck, saw this. Man was I lucky I didn't lose them. That was the dumbest thing I have done in a very long time, until that other thing 3 days later. :D :D :D


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF2955.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1567471008)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on September 02, 2019, 08:51:54 PM
2 things not to do. Put stuff on tailgate,tail gate down. Put stuff in loader on tractor. All stuff you think, I will not forget I put them there. :D 
Should we start a thread on this? :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 02, 2019, 09:09:02 PM
I did that one time with my camera, a very nice dslr. I set it on the roof of my car. Realized I left something somewhere. jumped in car angry and took off. came back home to a pile of camera all over the road. That was a very expensive lesson to learn.

Now nothing ever gets put on top of the car or any of the places listed above :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on September 02, 2019, 09:10:14 PM
Putting stuff in the loader bucket probably deserves itís own topic.  ;D  

Not that I ever did that and then forgot.  :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 02, 2019, 09:21:17 PM
Guys used to toss a big logging chain in the loader bucket, then one day someone scooped up a bucket of shavings and dumped them into the hopper. Well that chain made its way through 4 bed augers and managed to wrap itself around an elevated 14" auger before breakers started to trip out. After that it was a fireable offense to put anything metal into the bucket. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 02, 2019, 09:22:52 PM
I set one of my kids car seats on the cover of my truck bed and forgot about it.  I remembered it when I saw something move in my rear view mirror.  The seat did not fair too well when it hit the highway.  Luckily there was no kid in it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 02, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
did something similar but my 2 y/o son was in it!!!  it was in the back seat of my king cab.  as I approached a stoplight i could see in the mirror it was leaning forward let off the brake to let it fall back, but 2 lanes of stopped cars in front forced me to cont. stopping. face down on the floor board he went.  we had 2 kids and four car seats but occ. moved them around for grandparents to take kids.  this one was not reinstalled correctly.  he is a first year college student now so doing ok, but he was scared and mad.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 02, 2019, 09:45:23 PM
Apparently I am not alone. Who'd have thought? ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 02, 2019, 10:36:09 PM
   Re Items left on the top of vehicles -My wife bought our young son a hamster from K-Mart in Jacksonville NC 30 years or so ago. It died a day or so later but had a 7 day live guarantee so she called the pet dept and they said no rush just bring it the next time she came to town so she put it in a zip lock bag in the freezer. Several days later she was going to town so she took out the dead frozen hamster and went to the car and realized she had left her purse. She put the hamster on top of the car and went back and got her purse, jumped in the car, took off forgetting about the hamster. She drove a mile then remembered the hamster got out and checked but it had blown off. She turned around and drove slowly checking the road between there and home. There was very little traffic that time of day but at least one vehicle had rolled over the hamster so now she had a dead, flat, frozen hamster. She took it to the pet department and showed it to the clerk and said "My hamster died." The guy looked at it and asked "My God, Lady, what did you do to it?" She explained and he decided the tale was to bizarre to be false and gave her another hamster.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 02, 2019, 10:45:25 PM
Oh you are so not  alone...
 1 eletro cautery unit in a little in a little white plastic tote does not ride for 39 miles on the top of a vet box oh and they are free(not!).  I did the chain in the loader bucket the other day too,  have a chain hook in the center of the bucket. I had moved a log to the mill the night before, bucket had a six foot tail when  I dumped out the scoop of  sand. .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 03, 2019, 06:54:26 AM
I have learned if I use chains in the bucket to always drape them over and hook them to my hook. Otherwise I start yelling at everyone for not putting them back. Unfortunately that everyone is almost always me :)

Here is what my bucket hooks look like. This is why I am able to just hang them over the bucket and hook them.


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45059/IMG_20180903_144524086.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1536065952)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 03, 2019, 07:03:53 AM
That's a pretty neat idea! Have you ever had a chain slip out? Hanging over the front takes some load off the hook I would think and makes the chains visible to the operator. Hope I get a chance to try that some day.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 03, 2019, 07:20:49 AM
yes, I have had chains fall out. But only when I had it hanging on the back (not over the bucket) to try to get the extra lift capacity having the load closer to the pin. When I lift from the rear I need to roll the bucket forward to hold the chains in. When I dropped the chain I had a bucket full of chainsaws and other stuff so I was not able to curl the bucket forward as far as I wanted. It wasn't a big deal. I got off the tractor, hooked it up again, hanging the tail over the front of the bucket then lifted. 

I have thought about bending the angle up just slightly so it can't fall off. but I am not sure my break is up to the task. Overall though I love those hooks. They have been the best thing I have done to my tractor. I even made a matching set for the rear quick hitch.

With the choker chains I got at Boonville they are a perfect combination with the hooks.

Here is a pic of the rear hooks.

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(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/45059/IMG_20190615_160356209_edited.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1567509583)



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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 03, 2019, 09:47:01 AM
@Crusarius (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059) have you considered welding a small piece of round drop off as a retainer? Here is a crude sketch to explain my thought poissibly using 3/8 or 1/2 round stock.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/bracket.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1567518290)
 

This might provide just enough to keep it in the slot when it gets a little marginal. The ones on your hitch probably don't need it because the load ia always down, right? but on the bucket, it changes.
 Anyway, just a thought.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 03, 2019, 09:51:05 AM
I have thought about that. also thought about just welding a bead along there. it does not take much to hold them in place. a bead would be sufficient. But since they are already all nice and painted and mounted to the bucket for the few times I have had issues it does not matter to me. Ideally if I could put that in the break and angle it up a couple degrees it would be perfect. welding that stock on there is alot more work than I am willing to invest in them.

If they were 3/8" stock I would just mill a slot for the links to fit horizontally. That would fix that issue but I am only using 1/4" stock.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 04, 2019, 06:23:42 AM
I went to the store one time to fill my travel mug with coffey. Had a guy at the store show me his new chain saw. I put my cup on the bumper of my truck. Yup, it was there when I got home.   8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on September 04, 2019, 09:30:00 PM
On Thursday, I laid the bar for adjusting the jacks on my mill on the rail next to the hydraulics box.  I drove 14 miles home and 17 miles to my next job.  It was there Friday morning when I got there.   :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 04, 2019, 09:39:25 PM
Ted,
 
  You are lucky - Mine didn't make it 10 miles from my son's house to my home when I did that. :(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 04, 2019, 10:15:20 PM
Loosing that bar was always my greatest fear before I got the FAO's.  The thing is made out of unobtanium!!!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on September 05, 2019, 06:34:48 AM
Any time I lay my bar down, other than put it where it belongs, I ALWAYS put it so that it's actually "in the way"!  Doing so ensures that it won't be missed!

A few years back, I laid it down at the tail end on the mill and drove home, 1Ĺ miles and it was gone, drove back and didn't find it, about 10 days later while driving my school bus route I spotted it laying beside the road, 1/2 mile from home!  After bus run, I went and picked it up!

Worse part was about 4-5 days after losing it, I ordered another one from Wood-Mizer at a cost of $22.00, and in the meantime I was sawing for a customer and told him of it and he said he had something like that and he gave it to me!

So then I had 3 lifting bars, I gave one to my FIL who lost his years before, and I have a spare in the cabinet!

They are definitely made of some very hard stuff!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on September 05, 2019, 12:19:45 PM
Knew it was going to be a day when I put the coffee pod in my coffee cup instead of the Kuerig this morning. Sawing hemlock for a 16í x 20í addition to deer camp. Had a 16í log on the mill from yesterday, so started the engines to warm and decided to grease the guide wheels and band wheels. What was I thinking! Guess I wasnít!! Itís just the pressure is on to get the material sawn for the addition. The grease zerk on the inside of the drive side was in need of cleaning, I reached thru from the operators side with a grease rag, a no-no. Hereís why. The rag and my arm put enough tension on the drive belt to start turning, just like throwing the tensioner handle on. Pulled my wrist and forearm in between an active belt and belt pulley. The engine stalled but not prior to my receiving some good belt burns and scratches. I blame it on my new beagle puppy getting me up three times during the night! So I guess I call it as a safety meeting
this morning! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 05, 2019, 10:33:36 PM
Thatís scary.  Donít do that.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 06, 2019, 09:15:02 AM
glad you are ok, taught us all a valuable lesson!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 14, 2019, 09:13:20 PM
Well, who'd have thunk it, but it's my turn again. I was doing some work helping the new neighbors today cutting some nuisance trees for them getting their place ready for a wedding. I had to fuel up and we were chatting while I did that and I took both caps off the saw and poured the bar oil into the gas tank. First time in my life I have EVER done this. (No kidding, really, never before, honest) As I am answering the question I was asked, while pouring I realized what I was doing. All I could do was laugh at myself. They had no idea why I started laughing, then cursing a little. Took it off into the woods and dumped it. At least I didn't try to start it. re-fueled and went about the work, but because I had wasted the single tank of bar oil, I came up short to finish the day. I had used up the end of the gallon jug. SMH When I threw my stuff in the truck this morning I knew that jug was nearly empty, but i hefted it and thought "yeah, this will be enough" and it would have, if I hadn't dumped the tank. Sometimes I amaze me. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on September 15, 2019, 07:35:14 AM
Did that recently for the first time too.  It smoked a bit more through that first tank afterwards.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 15, 2019, 08:52:55 AM
Nope I have never done that, but I have come close.  Not sure I will admit it when I do!   :D  If the saw runs better after let us know, maybe we will all try it.  always happens with people watching.  that is part of why we have people step out for procedures.  If they were videoing you, the saw would prob. have exploded. :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on September 15, 2019, 10:24:06 AM
When I first got my Sthil saw, I would open both tanks and fill them.  About the third or forth time, I caught myself dumping gas into the oil.  Well, it wasn't until I went to put the oil in that I thought something was strange/backwards.  I just had to dump the gas out of the oil tank and I was good.  Since that day about 4 years ago, I only open the tank when I have in my hand what is going in there!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 15, 2019, 01:56:04 PM
That's just cleaning out the bar oil reservoir,  crud and sawdust can fall in there and that fuel mixture floats it out so nice. ;)  Funny how i t follows with cursing.  I caught myself doing it a while ago, I was mentally  doing something else.  Never gotten more than splash in there over the years, but it's happened once or twice.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on September 15, 2019, 02:11:36 PM
Oil in the gas tank is bad but forgetting to put the cap on the oil tank is worse.  That mess is hard to get out of your work boots!!  :-X
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on September 15, 2019, 02:15:08 PM
Quote
I put my cup on the bumper of my truck. Yup, it was there when I got home. 
There is actually a low pressure suction created behind the back of a vehicle while driving, it will help hold objects in place.


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Did that recently for the first time too.  It smoked a bit more through that first tank afterwards.
I had a customer buy a used chainsaw cheap from a homeowner who thought he had ruined it by putting oil in the gas / gas in the oil. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 15, 2019, 09:56:53 PM
crowhill, that is why I never trust myself working on running machinery. ::) I have done more than a few dumb things over the years but nothing recent. At least I don't think I have but the memory ain't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 16, 2019, 07:57:08 PM
I have never done that, to my knowledge.  What I did years ago while fighting a brush fire was put fuel into the backpack blower I was using and then forgot to put the gas cap back on.  Can you imagine how bad that could have been if I had walked into the fire with gas pouring off the blower on my back.  If I remember correctly, I ran out of gas before I ever made it up the hill to the fire.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: adirondacker on September 19, 2019, 06:40:13 AM
Do what I do....I have big RED piece of duct tape right in front of my eyes before I saw......LOOK at Bunks....raise saw head after cut....? Seems to work.....that's my story also...lol
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ed_K on September 19, 2019, 09:28:17 AM
 Yesterday I was in need of 2x4s and had 2x8s. so a quick run  smiley_horserider up to the mill and put 5 on locked them down an ran across at 8" to level the crook in a couple of them. Flipped them over and locked them down. Checked the front stops lower than 4"s and run right into the back stop  ;D.What a mess almost new 10į WM blade thems are sharp cut into the stop a 1/4" tried to pull it back an pulled it off the wheels :o. Had to drive a wedge in the end to get the blade out >:(.
 Not that hasn't been done before but the blade never sawed that deep  :o.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 19, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
I have never done that, to my knowledge.  What I did years ago while fighting a brush fire was put fuel into the backpack blower I was using and then forgot to put the gas cap back on.  Can you imagine how bad that could have been if I had walked into the fire with gas pouring off the blower on my back.  If I remember correctly, I ran out of gas before I ever made it up the hill to the fire.
What purpose does a back pack blower serve in fighting a fire?  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 19, 2019, 10:13:52 AM
blowing leaves out of the fire break.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 19, 2019, 10:21:01 AM
SS, a big part of fighting brush fires is creating the fire line. This is especially true with what we call 'creepers' which are smaller brush fires in higher humidity conditions that creep along the ground in the duff and leaves and underbrush. To do this you need bare ground and digging is labor intensive and slow. Moving along with a leaf blower allows one to create a 4-6 foot wide path mostly free of ground litter pretty quickly. It isn't the end all solution, followup is need on un-blowable stuff, etc, but it is a quick first pass to remove a large percentage. A crew of 3-4 can move in a line, the first guy blows, the second guy has a grub ax to move out the brush, and the third guy might have a chainsaw.  Everything is moved from the unburned area into the burn side so that any hidden embers will be allowed to burn out safely. 
 This fire line is then walked regularly to stamp out any cross overs and trim up root trails etc. Every fire is different, but this is a basic layout. This is how we do it in the northeast where the humidity is higher than out west. Not sure if it would apply there as much. East Coast and West Coast firefighting techniques and fire types are so very different that it's like we are on different planets. Heck we don't even use the same terms for the same equipment.
 Ask a firefighter from each coast what the difference is between a "tender' and a 'tanker' and you will get very different answers.  ;D :D
 Let's just say if you call for a tanker on the west coast, you had better know what you are asking for, on the East coast, not so much. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 19, 2019, 10:33:45 AM
Ok - thanks.  The only wildland fire I have ever been involved with - seen plenty as an observer - was involving a feller buncher that caught.  The local Forest Ranger had two flat tires while enroute with his Indian tanks, in the meantime the contractor sent over a BIG grapple skidder who hooked onto the tracked buncher and drug it into the opening.  Not too long after the landowner, Irving Forest Products, had a helicopter over head dropping water and other than a crispy buncher not much was lost, well except for the State owned tires....  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 19, 2019, 08:56:15 PM
Here in MO our fire seasons are in the spring and fall when the humidity gets low.  There is a lot of leaf litter on the ground and thatís what the fire mainly travels in here.  We use blowers to create fire breaks as described previously.  Very different from out west.  I used to fight fire out there too.  My favorite tool was the Pulaski.  I have several that I use around here for everything and anything.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 19, 2019, 09:05:26 PM
 My favorite tool was the Pulaski.  I have several that I use around here for everything and anything.
I am with you FFotS, that was my first hand tool to grab off the rig, very versatile and light. Wish I had one around here. I was tempted to scoff one off a rig, but just couldn't do it, and we never broke one that I could take and fix. I'd love to have one strapped on my Mule. We get very few heavy fast crown fires up here. but the last big one I worked was like that and blew over a 400 foot safety zone. Pretty scary stuff, changed the way the evaluate every fire in the state now. It could have killed 75 firefighters, but they bailed just in time. That was a rough job, every chopper in the region worked that job moving water and gear. It still pops up in my dreams from time to time. When you see the federal guys, the big 40 year fire bosses walking around white as a sheet, you know it was a close call.
 I kind of miss it, but am getting old.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 19, 2019, 09:37:12 PM
We get an occasional fired up here mostly in the early spring if it's dry along the railroad tracks, 
or somebody's combine catches on fire in a field in the fall. For those they usually get a couple tractors and discs and make a fire break that way. I just wondered what a Pulaski was?? Not much forest here.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 19, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
It is an axe with a second blade at right angle, it can be used as an axe or as a hoe. Also referred to as a grub hoe. Very useful for clearing firebreaks and exposing burning roots. Did my apprenticeship on a mop up crew when I was 18, talk about hot, dirty, miserable work but it paid decent with no tax deductions and we got fed well. 150 bucks for ten days work, I thought I had the world by the tail on a downhill pull. :D
When I think about some of the dumb things I got away with I shudder.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on September 19, 2019, 11:57:38 PM
It is an axe with a second blade at right angle, it can be used as an axe or as a hoe. Also referred to as a grub hoe. Very useful for clearing firebreaks and exposing burning roots. Did my apprenticeship on a mop up crew when I was 18, talk about hot, dirty, miserable work but it paid decent with no tax deductions and we got fed well. 150 bucks for ten days work, I thought I had the world by the tail on a downhill pull. :D
When I think about some of the dumb things I got away with I shudder.
Been there done that, though in a few different situations. But in my opinion it does not fit in the "Did something dumb today" thread. It built character,work ethic,value of a dollar, and most of all "who you are".
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 20, 2019, 08:18:10 AM
Well I could've search engined the Pulaski thing, but this is a better place to ask instead.  Here the thread is back on track. I must've grabbed the  winter weight bar oil when I fueled my big saw last time, not so good, got a bit warmish, and smoked a little, but no I hadn't put fuel in the wrong hole. I'll put the jug under the bench for February the most useless month of the year.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 20, 2019, 04:42:01 PM
I sure miss fighting fire out west.  Some of the best times.  Speaking of doing something dumb, I went to a fire in Yellowstone and had to protect a pile of trash left by Roosevelt when he visited the park.  Lots of tin cans and an abandoned Ford.  It was a historical landmark.
The second pic is me and my Pulaski in Oregon, by mount Washington.

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on September 20, 2019, 05:01:39 PM
Very handsome!

The Pulaski, that is :D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 20, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
Lots of things in the picture look better than me.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 20, 2019, 08:41:04 PM
Lots of things in the picture look better than me.
That's funny FFotS. When I saw the photos and before I read your follow up comment, I thought to myself, man we ALL looked the same in the yellow shirts and green pants and (mostly) yellow hardhats and neck shields. There are few outfits that are LESS attractive and unsexy than that. Has nothing to do with you, I looked worse probably (OK, assuredly). My gear still sits in a go bag on the other side of the room. I think I will leave it there. Although the shirts were pretty comfortable, the pants always made my butt look fat. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 20, 2019, 08:49:43 PM
Originally I had a yellow helmet, but Firecache had a deal on that green wide brimmed one.  I think it was some kind of forest service anniversary edition.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 20, 2019, 09:20:24 PM
Because of the wildland experience i came to dislike the plain hats and moved to the full brim also. (neck protection from ash and branches, also better balance). The hat I wore on the fire-line bit the dust a year ago. I wear orange now. I might get red for my next one. I have no idea why. As long as it isn't white. White helmets still make me shudder.  ;D (I assume you get the reference.) I always wanted to get one of those helmet stickers that said "white helmets kill brain cells", but I would never had the guts to put it on, I got in enough trouble without it. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 20, 2019, 10:26:44 PM
Yeah, I get the reference.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36921/843282CD-66C5-4E75-B61E-72C529F07DCA.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1569032787)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 21, 2019, 08:08:01 AM
OOOPPSSS! My bad!  ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D
 Had no idea you were a BC, congrats. Keep your head on a swivel and your people safe. I worried enough about mine as the Cap, but as a BC, well, I never wanted that. Tough duty. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 21, 2019, 08:31:45 AM
Iím happy where Iím at.  I have 9 folks that work for me.  Thatís as high as I will ever go.  I see the stress that the Chief has to deal with.  I like being on shift instead of days.  At one time I aspired to be a Fire Chief, but not anymore.  Now I aspire to work 10 or less more years and then do woodworking/sawmill until Iím tired.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 21, 2019, 08:55:59 AM
It is funny.  when my brother worked for a big road construction company, he wanted me to visit him on the job.  He gave me a white hard hat.  I said won't people wonder who I am?  sure enough I went visit, drove 12 miles across the job past gates and barricades wearing that hat.  everyone waved like they knew me.  they just though I was the big boss from corporate.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 21, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Years ago I worked for a summer as foreman on a construction project, I knew squat about building water lines but had done a stint as a surveyor's helper so was the most experienced ::). I wore a siver aluminum hard hat, the crew told me to keep it on so they could see me coming.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 21, 2019, 07:12:06 PM
   Does tucking my cap behind my belt and not finding it till I flushed the toilet qualify for posting here?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 21, 2019, 08:07:00 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on September 21, 2019, 08:11:48 PM
Does not gathering your bib overall straps qualify??  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 21, 2019, 08:16:08 PM
in construction the "white hats"  are the bosses, in medicine the length of your white coat is like a rank.  med students hip length short, attending professors, knee length long.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 21, 2019, 08:19:09 PM
MM -  Is that similar to forgetting to remove your nail apron before you go pee?

Doc - My favorite was Robin Williams in his white butcher's coat in Patch Adams. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on September 21, 2019, 10:11:22 PM
Never have to remove it.  I have that one down to a science.  :P
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Roxie on September 22, 2019, 02:40:49 AM
  Does tucking my cap behind my belt and not finding it till I flushed the toilet qualify for posting here?
Yes!  :D :D

Does not gathering your bib overall straps qualify??  ::)


And Yes!  :D :D



Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on September 22, 2019, 05:30:17 PM
I had a good laugh one day out on the mill, the helper was wearing a Stihl helmet with the ear protectors and a screen face shield.

Well, this guy chewed (do I need to say more) well he spit without raising the screen!  ROFL    smiley_roller

First thing the guy did was look to see if I saw it!   laugh_at   I did!

In the end, we both had a good laugh!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 22, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
   Last night at the fish fry our 7 y/o gd Molly asked her grandma for her truck keys so she could get her stuff out and transfer to her mom's car. Becky gave her the keys and showed her how to push the remote 2 times to unlock the front then the back doors. A few minutes later Molly and sister Abbie returned and said it was not working. Becky quizzed her on how she had tried to use it then decided her remote had died and asked me for mine and I reminded her I don't have a remote for my truck. They discussed the issue some more and finally I reminded her we had driven my truck, not hers, which was why the remote was not working so Molly borrowed my key and went and got her stuff. Becky had my key on her ring too so really no need for mine. Becky and my DIL had a good laugh when they realized what they had done. I am not sure Molly thought it was so funny.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 22, 2019, 08:59:45 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 22, 2019, 09:32:01 PM
Well - this is along the lines of WV's situation, I didn't do it, but was pulled in as an observer.  Couple weeks back my wife and I made a run to town for groceries and such.  Well we are in Sams wandering around the store and I had parked the cart to grab something and another guy had parked their cart by mine.  Other guy walks back to the carts and begins to stroll away smiling with my cart, now I am watching this and thinking "hua, this is going to be interesting" he got maybe 10 feet away when either wifey or girlfriend comes around the corner, looks at the cart, looks up at him, looks back at the cart, then back up at him.  Suddenly a black cloud formed around her, the winds picked up, lightning and thunder broke out and her face peeled off, skin, muscles, suddenly bare bone showed as she elevated several feet off of the ground in a true Poltergeist or Indiana Jones type of scene.  This response from her caused "other guy" to look at the shopping cart he was pushing and evaluate the contents, or lack there of, in the cart - no big deal right, he has the wrong stuff, the store has plenty more.  Only problem was the cart he left behind contained a child in it, clearly hers, and now I am not sure if it's his or not.  In what can only be described as one small step for mankind, one giant leap for "other guy" he instantly realizes his error and sprints back to his child containing cart, looks at me knowing that he is about to walk into the light, and pushes away.  Now he has two carts, a demonic presence hovering over him, and no idea what to do, so he leaves his cart with the raging storm coddling the child, pure Ghost Busters by now, and returns my cart and sort of mumbles something along the lines of "sorry".  Well, I am really trying not to laugh and my wife is just about to my side by this time dumbfounded.  They leave and we have a good laugh about it at his expense.  

We finish our shopping and head across the what - 15 acre parking lot - get to the van and what to my wondering eyes should appear? But "other guy" and his "Dear".  So we load the stuff into the cooler bags that we bring and nobody is really saying much, "other guy" fills his vehicle in record time and is about to push the cart away when my good nature came out - was just trying to be helpful - and I asked him "Sure you got everything?"  So he kind of laughs and says "yea" and while managing to keep a straight face I looked right at him and said "I am not sure how, but you realize she is going to kill you, right?" to which he just kind of stared at me and gave a nervous half smile.  My wife overheard me and later said that was not nice, but it sure seemed like the thing to say at the moment.   ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 22, 2019, 09:50:14 PM
   While we are talking about shopping carts, remember if you are bored in WalMart while your wife shops to entertain yourself you can do things like sneak pregnancy test kits into old couples buggies, condoms into the priests cart, a bottle of wine in the Baptist preacher's cart, etc. then watch when they get to the checkout line.

  I had a friend in Albany GA who ran the dry cleaners and he had a fake pair of ladies bloomers about 100" waist size and he'd get a stack of clothes, shake them and the bloomers would fall out and he'd pick them up and stretch them out for all to see. Once he did that and the man who dropped off the clothes got beet red, grabbed the bloomers, stuffed them in his shirt and walked out. We always wondered what his wife looked like.

  Years ago in church after helping with the offering a distracted member came back and sat down in his pew only he was one row off and the lady he was sitting beside was not his wife who was in the row behind. This was an honest and harmless error and nobody thought much of it till he looked over and saw the strange woman beside him then he literally screamed, jumped up and ran to the seat behind him. The error was easy to make and correct with a simple "Excuse me" but his reaction was priceless and broke up the entire congregation.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 22, 2019, 10:31:07 PM
I usually do the shopping cart thing with my wife just to see how long it takes her to notice some absolutely ridiculous item in there, things like a 5 lb chocolate cake or 20" cookie.  One time I found a pair of massive clown slippers and tossed them in, these things were huge, she didn't pick up on it for a while, and when she did I put them in a random, unattended cart - never leave your cart unattended or your vehicle un locked at the county fair - you never know how many Zucchini you will find in there when you return :D.  I was still in observation range when the cart driver returned.  He picked those up and with a bewildered look was searching for the vandal, who was nowhere to be found while hiding in plain sight.... ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on September 23, 2019, 05:55:43 AM
I have almost done the wrong shopping cart,but I was not pushing a baby!!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 23, 2019, 07:31:55 AM
This one makes me shudder, I almost absentmindedly  asked if a young lady was "expecting" the other day while making small talk over  a new kitten in the office, she had her 3 year old in tow. I have never made that mistake before, turns out  she was.  She volunteered the information herself. Several years  ago I witnessed one of those incidents and vanished like a puff of smoke  outside to get something out of my vet truck. I was "not" the guilty party.  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 23, 2019, 08:29:33 AM
In private practice at one point or another, all of my nurses made that mistake at least once, and for most only once. i think as long as it is not your wife, you are ok.  i usually exclaim, "What did you have for lunch?"   but i am sure i will get in trouble for that one someday.  i usually already know they are pregnant.  I fear someday they may relate that indeed it was over lunch... ;) :) 8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on September 24, 2019, 06:14:52 PM
So I share my birthday week with my daughter in law and the two step daughters of my best friend.  So my best friend and his wife threw a birthday bash for the four of us - me, my daughter in law and my friends step daughters.   Did I say the three women are between 26 and 31?

When the carrot cake birthday cakes came out, the three girls started trying to smear cream cheese icing on each other.  I had faded into the background.  The three of them decided that I needed to have cream cheese icing smeared on my face too!

Apparently, I didn't protest enough.......
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 24, 2019, 09:48:28 PM
 :D I would have paid admission to see that.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 24, 2019, 10:33:50 PM
Pretty sure that's called a "cover charge" sawguy... :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 24, 2019, 10:48:44 PM
My dumb thing for today was making all the parts for 8 rail and stile cabinet doors.  The dumb part was making all of the rails one inch too short.  Consequently I will be making them all again tomorrow.  Planing, jointing, cutting, milling at the router table.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 25, 2019, 12:36:30 AM
could just make some shorter cabinets!  @firefighter ontheside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921) .  sweet @SawyerTed (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 25, 2019, 10:20:47 AM
Was having chainsaw irritation,....switched bars when it was getting dark had a new Oregon 20 inch loop. Got the bar switched it was dark when finished stowed the saw under the mill shed gave up for the night. Last night between rain showers I went out set the beam machine on the 2x4 started back down into the cut. No chips right away,  instantly realized that I had put the chain on backwards in the dark two nights ago. > :-[  Was really impressed with myself,luckily no witnesses I'm safe.  8) ..
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 25, 2019, 11:22:19 AM
Not the first time that has been done. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 25, 2019, 11:37:46 AM
I was probably "due" honestly been a while since  I  had done it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on September 25, 2019, 12:40:53 PM
I just did it the other day,putting a chain on backwards. I have no idea how,why I did. But as soon as I put the chain into,well onto the wood, :D  I knew what I did. ::)  I don't think I have ever done that before,but somehow knew I did it as soon as I did it. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 25, 2019, 01:11:28 PM
I havenít done that......yet.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 25, 2019, 01:19:13 PM
I think they should start making 2 direction chains. Twice the life between sharpening :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 25, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard.  :-X
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: talma on September 25, 2019, 02:41:42 PM
southside I tried the other day.  took me a bit an some help to turn the blade over.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 25, 2019, 03:22:38 PM
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard.  :-X
Yes, I have 'Heard" this also. >:( ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 25, 2019, 05:14:56 PM
An acquaintance inherited an old two man saw from his grandfather, apparently it wouldn't cut so the man threw it in the shed and forgot about it. You guessed it, the chain was on backwards. I tried to buy but no go DanG it!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 25, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
Probably  my third band out of the box of 10 that came with mill opened up reversed. I started to put it on the mill and then thought..... :o  "oh no it's the wrong blade, that won't work"   for just a second and the light went on, ......oh yeah flip it over dummy..... After that little set back I also always wear gloves when handling blades, because  of course afterwards all I could find was a box of "Buzz Light Year Toy Story band aids,  I guess better than "Little Mermaid" for my ego  I did get a "nice band aid" comment the next day at the clinic from my tech.
Just got a little father along on the sawmill learning curve there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 25, 2019, 06:27:08 PM
good for you @Nebraska (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) .  only a few good men can pull off putting on a Disney princess bandaid.  the grand kids would love it.  good for you!  to infinity and beyond! 8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: A-z farmer on September 25, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
We cut firewood every winter for the people who help us with moving our beepers and buffalo and running them through our circle .Two years ago we were cutting for this one guy and he brought a saw .He must of hit the frozen ground and he was changing his chain .He could not get it to cut so my son and I were astonished to watch him totally destroy his nice saw .Needless to say he does not help us any more and his only comments was he could afford another new one.
Zeke
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Stephen1 on September 25, 2019, 07:06:54 PM
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard.  :-X
And then call the tech complaning the mill isn't sawing right.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on September 25, 2019, 08:05:55 PM
My dumb thing for today was making all the parts for 8 rail and stile cabinet doors.  The dumb part was making all of the rails one inch too short.  Consequently I will be making them all again tomorrow.  Planing, jointing, cutting, milling at the router table.
"Inch syndrome" if I had a dollar for every time :D

For whatever reason laying on the ground fighting the chain onto the lucas slabbing bar it is real easy for me to get turned around. Not too bad till it happens back to back.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 25, 2019, 09:17:33 PM
You know it helps one legitimatize a sawmill purchase with reducing the amount of rental fee's
one has to pay in renting the "board stretcher" at the home town lumber yard. I just don't know
why it was always  rented out  when I needed it.  I think they just saw me coming.   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 25, 2019, 11:15:39 PM
This was a while back ago but I was making an order of stair treads for a customer.  They came out of the kiln looking awesome.  Through the edger they go to get them pre-sized for the moulder (can you hear the ominous foreshadowing music at this point?)  Run them through the knock down planer and set up the moulder, they are all perfect.  About to feed the first one into the moulder when, HOLY GAP PROBLEM BATMAN, HIT THAT KILL SWITCH!!  So I double check the set up on the moulder and much to my chagrin she is spot on.  Look back at the stair blank and for the life of me I can't understand what the problem is.  Now we are not talking about a 1/16" width gap problem here, more like 2".  11 1/8" - that's what they should be, pull out the tape to check the blank and @#$%!@#%^, they are 9" and change - every single one of them.  At some point after retrieving my tape measure from the other end of the building after strange forces drew it from my hand and caused it to defy gravity as it traversed the 100' length, I walked back over to the edger to check the scales (ahh that same music is playing again) accuracy.  Lets see, left fence scale is dead on, right fence scale is dead on, adjustable fence scale is dead on.  Scratch my head some more and suddenly there it is.... the 9 and 11 cross each other on the scales and I had used the left adjustable fence and read the right scale, meaning the edger had worked perfectly, now if only my customer had small feet...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on September 26, 2019, 07:31:03 AM
In marketing, you always have to find that right customer ;D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 26, 2019, 07:54:39 AM
It's even more impressive when you put the band on backwards on your mill, or so I have heard.  :-X
And then call the tech complaning the mill isn't sawing right.  
   I am pretty sure I did that early on with 2 blades on a job and I was so green and the problem was obvious the tech never thought to ask me about the teeth direction and just told be to send them back for replacement which I and they did. At least I did not complain about the mill. I just complained about this batch of "bad" blades.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 26, 2019, 09:15:51 AM
I had a customer here once, he was a Boston Cab driver, he brought his recently sharpened "blade" for his chain saw. And was putting it on as I was getting ready to saw his logs.
I watched as a huge cloud of blue smoke rose from his cut.
I walked over and asked him: "will you get mad at me if I tell you that you put your chain on backwards". He said no.
I said to him "you put his chain on backwards."

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ed_K on September 26, 2019, 10:34:57 AM
 Riding with a friend we had to stop by an acquaintance of his. He was in the yard and very unhappy couldn't get a saw to cut some cordwood. after talking awhile I looked at the saw. The chain was on backwards and he had tried to sharpen it that way :o. It just wouldn't cut  >:(.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on September 26, 2019, 10:45:03 PM
Riding with a friend we had to stop by an acquaintance of his. He was in the yard and very unhappy couldn't get a saw to cut some cordwood. after talking awhile I looked at the saw. The chain was on backwards and he had tried to sharpen it that way :o. It just wouldn't cut  >:(.


Well... I would think most folks at least would notice the chain on backwards if they tried to sharpen.   Was there alcohol involved here?  :o
Now watch me do this very thing next week.   
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on September 27, 2019, 06:24:21 AM
Does not have anything to do with wood. The wife's dog. We let the dog have free range here. She was outside when I went out. I saw her come to me and went across a batch of grass and had a foot in the air.Thinking the grass was rough,crabgrass,weeds too,I thought she did not like the feel of it. I get on the tractor and head down to the road. She is running along beside me on 3 legs!! Stops to lick the foot and catches up with me. I stop the tractor and try to see what is wrong. I touch the foot and she yelps in pain. Broken foot? it does look odd at the end,by her toes. I carry her back to the house and tell the wife and she looks at it too. Something is wrong. We call the vet and get in an hour from now. They have a hard time looking at it too. They xray it and all is fine. Maybe bent it a little,bee sting. She gives her something to take the swollen down,you could see the swollen part and home we go.This all started at 1:30pm. Well by 8:pm she is bearing weight and acts like nothing wrong.  Which is good,but we paid a vet bill for a bee sting!!!! ::)  But at the time it gave us a peace of mind. The way she was acting it looked beyond bad. She was even sitting at an angle so that foot would not even touch the floor.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on September 27, 2019, 06:39:37 AM
That's not dumb cfarm that's love for your dog. I would have done the same thing.
smiley_wavy Hope all is well up there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on September 27, 2019, 06:56:11 AM
Completely agree - would do the same thing.  Now if it were my foot I would hobble around on it for a week before getting anyone to look at it, but if it was one of the dogs - no question.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 27, 2019, 08:13:14 AM
   Sampson, my 13 lb Rat Terrier and general knock around buddy, often runs around with one back foot in the air. I am not sure it is even the same foot all the time. I think it is to keep at least one foot dry and warm when the grass is wet or there is snow on the ground.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Woodpecker52 on September 27, 2019, 09:34:20 AM
If you were in Korea majority would have eaten the dog!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 27, 2019, 11:45:21 AM
I was trying to retrieve the messages from my stoopid blankety blank phone, finally called the carrier help line. " Well sir, it says here your call forward is activated". DOH!! He laughed, says it happens all the time.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: KenMac on September 27, 2019, 12:27:52 PM
  Sampson, my 13 lb Rat Terrier and general knock around buddy, often runs around with one back foot in the air. I am not sure it is even the same foot all the time. I think it is to keep at least one foot dry and warm when the grass is wet or there is snow on the ground.
My wife has 2 chihuahuas.  One of them holds a foot up like that. Always a rear one, but no telling which one.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on September 27, 2019, 12:37:13 PM
our chocolate lab Norman Rockwell and our blue healer Scout, had a routine.  throw the ball for the retriever, and half way back he would be cut off by the healer, and his left rear foot would be carried in Scouts' mouth back to me.  they would both sit and do it all over again all day long.  named him Norman cause my dads dog was Coco and his father was named Hershey, so the good chocolate names were all used up.  Scout after to kill a mocking bird.  Norman after my favorite artist.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on September 27, 2019, 12:51:45 PM
@doc henderson (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) 

You like Norman Hangshafter too!! Small world. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 27, 2019, 09:22:47 PM
If spending money on dogs is dumb,Iím one of the dumbest.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 28, 2019, 09:27:23 PM
My turn (again). I put a bunch of new parts on my Mule to get it back on the trail today. I was worried that the used front differential I bought was good. When I got it all assembled I rolled it back and forth under power and it sounded a little noisy, even at .01 MPH, just moving 5 feet forward and back. Then it dawned on me I hadn't put any grease in it. :o

Stupid move number two: I am moving and driving this thing VERY slowly listening for every creak, groan, grind, rub, or any other indicator of a problem. Sounds pretty good, so I start moving down the length of the driveway. Still sounds good, so I cut across the lawn to head for the skid road. When I dropped down on the lawn i hear this terrible CRUNCHING noise. I sopped, backed up, then rolled forward and it was gone. Now I am on pins and needles looking for a problem. I went across the road and dropped onto the neighbors driveway leading to the skid road. I heard it AGAIN, this time it was worse. Now I am wracking my brain as to what the heck I did to mess this up? Was the differential I bought bad, did I screw up and alignment on something? Did I totally miss something important?  i am really stressing at this point, but I crept onto the skid trail and did a slow little loop and came back up. As I came up the driveway I began to realize what that gosh awful was. 
 Acorns.
 They have been dropping lie mad in the past week and as I have not been driving the mule around, I was not used to the sound. It was freaking acorns that had me on pins and needles tearing myself apart for a stupid error in my work. ;D
 Many times in my adult life I have been told by family, friends, and employers that I am my own worst enemy and my own worst critic. I guess this is proof. ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on September 29, 2019, 12:55:28 AM
Thank you to all of you who spend money on your animals, it feeds my family.  @Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) thank you for brightening my evening. 

I just got back from watching an old fashioned thrashing.  Joke for you.... what's this.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

It's all the helmet stickers Ohio st gave out after the game this evening. I figured my road trip to Lincoln today qualified for a post here.





Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 29, 2019, 09:46:18 AM
old greenhorn, I get that but usually the nuts are in the belt case. darn squirrels and mice seem to think its a good storage area. Hickory nuts scare the poop out of you the first time they get crunched when your driving.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 29, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
I was down by the mill unhitching a log this morning when an acorn came down and whacked me on the shoulder blade. HOLY COW did THAT hurt! ;D It about brought stars to my eyes, but no blood that I could see. Now I have a little welt there. It's a lot worse than hitting a June Bug on your motorcycle. Thought about putting my hard hat on. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 29, 2019, 01:26:47 PM
With all the nuts falling and the squirrels dropping stuff on me I tend to wear my hardhat in the woods this time of year.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Sixacresand on September 29, 2019, 04:05:42 PM
This was dumb and against my better judgement.  With temperatures approaching 100 degrees, I set up the mill at a local fall festival Friday afternoon.  My first shirt was soaked in 15 minutes.  I sat in the truck under the AC and drank a quart of power aid to cool off. And just like that, a dome of clouds moved overhead, a breeze started and the temperature dropped 10 degrees.  

God is good and He looks out for us.     
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RAYAR on October 01, 2019, 01:58:34 AM
Now my turn. Was out to buddies woodlot / build site on Sunday afternoon. Was parked on the road / driveway by the first build site and trimming some stumps down a little in an area so I could back in off the road. There was one stump off to one side left so figured I'd get it after backing the truck in past it. Caught it with the right front wheel as I swung around and it momentarily stopped the truck before jumping over it, so continued back a few more feet and heard something under the truck, probably some brush. The tail gate was down and I had set my little Craftsman (Poulan) 40cc saw on it up against stuff in the box. Got out and walked around to the back  and several things from the box were out on the tail gate, so I put things back and then realized my saw was nowhere to be seen, then it struck me. I crouched down and looked under the truck and there was my saw way up under the cab just under the left side. DANG! So I walk up and pull it out and it's not looking too good, the chain brake is tweaked some and the forward handle is also a little tweaked out of shape and position. Now for the bar, it was not looking too good at all. It was really bent out of shape, to the left and also upwards a bit. Well after fiddling with it for a few moments, I put it aside and grabbed my old Husky 61 with a fresh sharpening and raker set and used it for the rest of the afternoon. Now that's a saw that performs well! It's the one with the aluminum chain brake handle, yup, one of the older ones.

On Monday afternoon, at home, I figured I'd go out and see what I could do with my poor little saw. Fixed up one of the anti-vibe mounting springs for the forward handle and it's not looking too bad now. OK, grab the poor looking bar, which also has the rack and pinion slack adjustment built in, and see what I can do about straightening it. Wasn't easy, but after an hour or so, I had a curved and bent piece of junk looking like a bar again, was mainly bent next to the mounting end, but also a curve in the middle of it the opposite way. Put it back on the saw and had to work on the chain brake mechanism to get it operational again. After that, I sharpened the chain, wasn't too dull, and then filed the rakers as they're needing to be done. Fired up the saw and ran it for a minute or two and you'd never know it had been a wreck, no replaced parts and it ran good. Should've gotten a few pics, but I didn't.

Oh, that stump I ran over got trimmed down with the Husky. Wasn't a big stump either.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 01, 2019, 10:11:40 PM
I hate when that happens.  Nice job saving it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on October 01, 2019, 10:31:10 PM
I agree with FFOTS, I hate when that happens, but I LOVE when I can pull it out of the whole in a short evening without spending money. A dumb move tha resulted in a WIN, of sorts. Good on ya!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 01, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
Just in case anyone needs to know they don't build the jacks on log splitters like they used to.  Mine failed miserably when I backed over the splitter the other day with the Lull... >:(  Never even felt it, happened to get off of the machine and bummer - there is my log splitter lying on it's side.  Luckily nothing else was broken so all I need to do is get a new jack.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on October 01, 2019, 11:43:39 PM
Well that was sorta lucky, last time I did something like that the tire truck came to visit my tractor. It got too close to the little flipper lever on a coupler on an old trailer sitting in the tall grass I  was mowing. Straight through the bottom of the sidewall it went...barely bent the lever  :-\, missed my turn just that much. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 06, 2019, 11:46:27 AM
Well, I was in a hurry this morning to do a small job that took 2 hours to do.  We had somewhere to be and I needed to be done at 10.  As you know, rushing leads to doing something dumb.  I hit a log support.  It threw some pretty sparks.  My customer thought I had hit metal in his log.  He was happy when I told him what had happened.  What sucks is that our plans have changed and I have all kinds of time.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RAYAR on October 06, 2019, 11:38:00 PM
Now my turn. Was out to buddies woodlot / build site on Sunday afternoon. Was parked on the road / driveway by the first build site and trimming some stumps down a little in an area so I could back in off the road. There was one stump off to one side left so figured I'd get it after backing the truck in past it. Caught it with the right front wheel as I swung around and it momentarily stopped the truck before jumping over it, so continued back a few more feet and heard something under the truck, probably some brush. The tail gate was down and I had set my little Craftsman (Poulan) 40cc saw on it up against stuff in the box. Got out and walked around to the back  and several things from the box were out on the tail gate, so I put things back and then realized my saw was nowhere to be seen, then it struck me. I crouched down and looked under the truck and there was my saw way up under the cab just under the left side. DANG! So I walk up and pull it out and it's not looking too good, the chain brake is tweaked some and the forward handle is also a little tweaked out of shape and position. Now for the bar, it was not looking too good at all. It was really bent out of shape, to the left and also upwards a bit. Well after fiddling with it for a few moments, I put it aside and grabbed my old Husky 61 with a fresh sharpening and raker set and used it for the rest of the afternoon. Now that's a saw that performs well! It's the one with the aluminum chain brake handle, yup, one of the older ones.

On Monday afternoon, at home, I figured I'd go out and see what I could do with my poor little saw. Fixed up one of the anti-vibe mounting springs for the forward handle and it's not looking too bad now. OK, grab the poor looking bar, which also has the rack and pinion slack adjustment built in, and see what I can do about straightening it. Wasn't easy, but after an hour or so, I had a curved and bent piece of junk looking like a bar again, was mainly bent next to the mounting end, but also a curve in the middle of it the opposite way. Put it back on the saw and had to work on the chain brake mechanism to get it operational again. After that, I sharpened the chain, wasn't too dull, and then filed the rakers as they're needing to be done. Fired up the saw and ran it for a minute or two and you'd never know it had been a wreck, no replaced parts and it ran good. Should've gotten a few pics, but I didn't.

Oh, that stump I ran over got trimmed down with the Husky. Wasn't a big stump either.

Used my saw today that I backed over last week. You'd never know it had been, worked great and for a 40cc consumer saw, it rocked! Of course knowing a thing or two about filing chains and having the proper equipment to do so helps. I used to make a living working in the woods many years ago.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on October 27, 2019, 10:02:04 PM
My best repeat customer asked me to help move out of his old house, and into his new house. While cleaning out his old garage, he told me he had bundles of extra shingles he saved from when he redid the roof, that if I wanted them, I could have free. Sure I'll take them, why not! So I flipped down the tailgate on my pickup and opened the back window on my topper, and started to back up into the garage to load them. SMASH! Folded my topper back window almost in half, shattering the glass, pushing against the top of the garage door opening. Lesson learned, always check your clearance, Clarence. Funniest part of the story, it didn't even leave a scratch on the old garage, which is slated for demolition. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on October 27, 2019, 10:37:00 PM
OUCH! That is an expensive mistake.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on October 27, 2019, 11:00:51 PM
Man, I can't tell you how close I came to that a number of times. I caught myself every time and got lucky. Sorry you got crammed.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on October 28, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
Not terribly bad, I see entire used toppers for $100 (or free) on CL all the time. I told my customer (a car collector) to find me the soft back window out of an old convertible, then it won't happen again. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 28, 2019, 11:31:25 PM
Whoops!  Yeah, things happen.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: East ky logging on October 29, 2019, 06:27:39 AM
I done something kind of dumb yesterday,my dog thought it was real dumb. I was sanding with a belt sander and had the trigger lock down sanding away and the electric went out. I rolled my chair up by the table and he jumped in my lap and we was both taking a nap. Well the electric came on and before we could get our eyes open we had a running belt sander in the chair with us. Heís still not talking to me  :D.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 29, 2019, 09:03:59 AM
   Maybe he will when the hair on his butt grows back. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on October 29, 2019, 09:41:07 PM
I bet the look on your and the dogs face was priceless. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on October 30, 2019, 06:20:31 PM
Sorry had to laugh at that one just from the vision of it happening.  Glad no animals were injured in the making of this opps.  It can be a bad thing if folks had stoves or ovens on when similar occurs and they don't turn them off.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 30, 2019, 07:46:43 PM
I guess itís time for a magnetic switch for your sander.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on October 30, 2019, 08:00:27 PM
 :D :D I'm sorry, that is just too funny. Bet you release the lock every time you put it down now.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on November 01, 2019, 07:21:12 PM
Thankfully it wasn't a big fire but it was exciting for about a minute!

I was fabricating some parts for a project this afternoon and was using the bench grinder to clean up some rough edges on some parts.  I didn't notice the wad of steel wool on the bench behind the grinder where the sparks go out the chute until the bright glow caught my eye.  Needless to say the steel wool caught fire on the bench.  Fortunately my welding gloves were on the temporary work bench behind me.  I quickly slipped them on, picked up the steel wool, dropped it on the concrete floor and stomped it out.  The bench nor any other stuff caught fire.  Feeling thankful it wasn't worse and feeling a bit humble tonight.

I have no idea where the steel wool came from, I keep it in an entirely different building.  But The Doc and my adult children use the shop on occaision.  That's not an excuse but a possible reason the steel wool got there. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on November 01, 2019, 08:39:15 PM
I can't tell you how many times I set my shop on fire. Good news is it usually does not spread.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 18, 2019, 08:36:49 PM
Geez everybody must be on good  behavior as far back as I had to go find this.
 So yesterday I had a gorgeous afternoon milled an elm log off of the firewood  pile that I had second thoughts about burning,   it had laid in a pile for 2 or 3 years came from my grove behind the house. It was very pretty inside....minus the nail not a single mineral stain to give It away , didn't even cross my mind to check it. Go figure... 
one blade... 
New blade on make three cuts, it's a thick  live edge, last cut don't have the stopper down the blocks me from sawing my clamp.....yeah  just barely dinked it.  Finished the cut with a thrashed blade. New blade number two ....last thing I did was cut a dry ash log into stickers kinda crooked about 10 inches.  Kinda crummy wavy cuts on some of passes....   just thought oh well, a dud , dull,not a good band I'll finish these stickers and put it up.  Cleaned up, pushed the saw in the shed, reached down to detension my blade......
Ever notice that a blade cuts better under tension. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on November 18, 2019, 08:41:37 PM
 :D :D :D

Keep your blades tight and your eye on the ball ;D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on November 18, 2019, 08:47:15 PM
 :D :D

Laughing with you, not at you. 

Thereís always something. 

I canít even throttle up without tension on the blade or Iím sure I would have done that. That still leaves me plenty of things to overlook though. 

I think itís remarkable that you sawed at all with out tension. So thatís kind of an achievement.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 18, 2019, 09:30:31 PM
Not sure how it even stayed put. I had just turned the handle enough to check if it tracked ok, and put the blade guards on....Then I must've went and grabbed the log off the pile and went merrily sawing away.. It was three full turns short of tight.  8) Glad the good Lord watches out for me, that's a clatter bang noise no one wants to hear.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on November 18, 2019, 10:23:22 PM
My blade tension handles are painted bright pink for that exact reason.  More than once it has saved me.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 19, 2019, 01:47:42 AM
@Southside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) at least your tension handle matches your shoes! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on November 19, 2019, 06:51:14 AM
Been hiding this😕. Few months ago we got a lemon beagle pup, goes everywhere with me. Put her in the truck placing the retractable leash between the seat and console allowing a very short leash. She sits on the console watching where we go. Truck is new with 2025 miles, weíre headed to camp. At 1/3 mile from the house she jumps to passenger seat and to the floor, her leash isnít long enough to be on the floor. I reach over to pull her up and up she comes but when I look up there is the utility pole in front of me, quick turn to the left, right hand mirror explodes, bang  left hand rear door, cab corner and box side implode. Dog is fine, Iím fine but my truck, well I took it to the truck doctor yesterday for $6000 plus in repairs. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 19, 2019, 07:31:35 AM
Ouch !!   No dog is ever free, just some cost more in different ways.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on November 19, 2019, 08:16:38 AM
   At least the dog is okay. We must keep our priorities straight. Sorry about the other boo boos. :(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ncsawyer on November 19, 2019, 08:19:39 AM
At least you kept all 4 wheels on the ground!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 19, 2019, 09:02:42 AM
you know, had you screamed like the dukes of Hazard, everything would have been fine!   move_it :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on November 19, 2019, 10:22:31 AM
@Southside (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) at least your tension handle matches your shoes! :) :) :)
I am not in Kansas anymore Doc.... :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 19, 2019, 05:53:01 PM
Oh no, did you click them together? :o  If you wind up in Ks, do not say I did not warn you.  I think you have to twirl a little as well.  if you wind up near here, I will come and pick you up.   :)  If your purse matches you shoes and tension handle, you may have to ride in the back of the truck! :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on November 23, 2019, 03:54:50 PM
...and I documented it. I am moving the mill and was making good time so I pushed it a bit much. I got the mill head up on the trailer and moved 2 track sets. Then I went back down wthout the trailer (which was still loaded, unloading comes later when the track is reset) and tried to get the rest on the Mule alone. The porblems was the 2 6x6x12' beams, they are just too long, but I figured out a way, then I put 2 more track sections crosswise on the bed and 2 6x6x8' on top of them. I was pretty pleased with the way I rigged those 12 footers. I thought about tying the track and short timbers on, but they seemed secure. It was a load.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF3343.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1574541941)
 

Anyhow things were going pretty good until I was almost at the top of the hill and that's when it all broke loose.  Gas cans, chainsaws, timbers, tools, tracks, all gone to heck. But those 12 footers were still where I put them. :D


(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF3346.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1574541952)
 

It was a heck of a mess in the middle of the hill to untangle, but I got most of it straight and came back for the rest in a second load.  Next time I take 2 minutes and throw another strap on.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 23, 2019, 05:34:16 PM
Dang @crowhill (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=14684) sorry bout the truck, but at least the pup was unharmed.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 23, 2019, 05:35:34 PM
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) you sure do put that mule to work.  Go on easy on her now and then will ya.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on November 23, 2019, 06:24:49 PM
@Old Greenhorn (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) you sure do put that mule to work.  Go on easy on her now and then will ya.
Actually, that wasn't a real heavy load, just awkward. Earlier in the day I had pulled my road trailer (just a 5x10) up with the mill head, 2 sections of track, some timbers and other stuff, that load barely made it just from the weight. More on that in my thread.
 BUT, not to worry, now that the mill is up the hill and behind my shop, her life gets a lot easier. SHe will skid logs to the mill, get me around, but I won't have to run everything UP and DOWN that skid road. So it will be mostly skidding work. I only take hitches of 3 logs or less. So yeah, she does get a break.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on November 23, 2019, 06:31:53 PM
I figured even though I don't have a mill yet, my dumb thing does have something to do with cutting. When I was home on leave in October, my fields had gone well beyond the capacity of my finish mower to cut. I was planning to get a brush mower next year anyway, so I went ahead and got one so I could do the mowing and my dad didn't have to do it. Unknown to me, my neighbor had removed the grates off the riser for the dam and put them on my boat ramp over the summer. At some point, an old man who I allow to use the boat ramp occasionally to fish moved the grates into the grass on either side of the ramp. All this happened over the summer, so I was not around to see it because I am stationed in Hawaii. Anyway, I found the grates with my brand new brush mower. Here is the after and before pics of the grates (neighbor sent a picture of where the grates were last time he saw them - not sure why he felt the need to put them on my property instead of his own):

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56423/20191024_171246_resized~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574551317)
 
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I didn't see them until it was too late because the grass was 4 feet tall. This is the result:

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56423/20191024_180956_resized.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574550397)
 
(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56423/20191024_180856_resized.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1574550395)
 

The mower seems to be ok other than the blades are beat up. Not to bad considering the grates were made of 1/4 inch steel frame and rebar. I don't know if that counts as I did something dumb today as much as somebody else did something dumb and I get to pay for it. About $150 for new blades.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on November 23, 2019, 07:41:19 PM
I have a 5' brusher as well and like bandmill blades they are great metal detectors and any other hidden gems.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on November 23, 2019, 08:56:46 PM
you should have shear pins in the bush hog. Did they shear? If not I would get some grade 2 bolts and put them in. Bolts are cheaper than gearboxes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on November 23, 2019, 09:00:52 PM
Mine has a shear bolt. Took it out many times.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on November 23, 2019, 10:20:08 PM
It came with a slip clutch drive shaft, so I think the gear box is ok. I didn't see any indication that the gear box shifted in it's mounts, and no unusual vibration following the event, so I think the slip clutch did it's job. I think I would prefer the shear bolt though. The slip clutch will protect the drive system, but allows the blades to keep turning until I am smart enough to shut down the PTO. A shear bolt would completely sever the connection without my input.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on November 23, 2019, 10:30:37 PM
With the slip clutch you will want to make sure it hasn't seized up over winter or long periods of non use. They can seize,especcially in moist weather and not provide any protection. I had a 10 footer (twin) at work and had to back the tension springs off and make sure it was functioning properly and re-tension. Easy to do.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 23, 2019, 11:00:35 PM
Its fairly spectacular when you are trying your latest 5 ft craigslist haul for mowing weeds up at the cabin, and find out the hard way that the shear joint is rusted solid where it's supposed to slip when the shear bolt let's go.  Yeah I doubled the price of the bargain..... 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on November 23, 2019, 11:56:33 PM
Yup, I found an antique intake manifold in the weeds, they did not spare the iron in castings back then.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on November 24, 2019, 03:15:20 AM
Unfortunately, the slip clutch didn't have time to seize up. The mower was a day old when I found the neighbor's garbage in my field. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on November 24, 2019, 09:43:02 AM
you get any moisture at all on those clutches and they will seize. You are much better off with shear bolts unless your test it all the time.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: crowhill on November 24, 2019, 10:29:25 AM
I did a lot of custom field and pasture mowing with a 6í brush hog and also went through many sets of blades, mostly just from rock. But the worst thing I found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast! Took about two hours to cut it out. That same farm had several test holes dug that were about 4íx4íx6í deep looking for gravel, they had years of dead hay and brush over them. Surprise!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on November 24, 2019, 11:08:09 AM
Old Greenhorn, seems that many times when I do something similar, I have thought that this might not be a good idea or I should take a few more minutes to do whatever.  However, many times I opt for the in a hurry or 'what could go wrong' thought and head out.  Most times it goes ok, but then there are times it is a failure.  Glad not injuries or damage occurred. 

jeepcj779 I don't think I have it steel.  I do mow rock, stumps 'someone' left too high, and once an abandoned plastic pipe (the barbwire type scenario).  I too have a slip clutch that every spring I loosen the bolts and slip it to break loose the rust.  I have not looked at the blade lately.  Probably need to do that to avoid posting a future issue here. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on November 24, 2019, 05:49:33 PM
When I worked for the DOT of Mississippi once I tried a drive line with a shear bolt.  The big bushwacker mowers  (15 footers) that we used would litteraly shear the shear bolt on start up at times.  I went back to the slip clutch as soon as I could.  Run a slip on the little 5 that I have behind my 2600 ford now.  To each his own I guess.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on November 24, 2019, 05:58:56 PM
If I pop the clutch on my JD 2150 hooked to the 5' bushhog, it is time to replace the shear bolt :).  At least I have the comfort of knowing that the gearbox is safe from all this stuff that y'all on here are mowing :D.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on November 24, 2019, 06:43:15 PM
   My dumb move of the day was to move my climbing deer stand to a different tree on the back corner of my property in preparation for Rifle season that starts tomorrow. I bow hunt out of a couple of permanent shooting houses with feeders and such but usually the first day of rifle season I hunt out of a climbing stand overlooking a deep draw, a ridge and bench that is a common crossing. Being there also discourages poachers from ignoring the posted signs and coming on my property. Anyway I changed trees and adjusted the back clamps on the stand and climber/seat because the new tree was smaller. To test it I climbed about 20' to check out the view and shooting conditions. As I climbed the tree got smaller so I decided to adjust the bolt to a new hole to tighten the climber/seat. All went well till I dropped the wingnut. I keep a spare in my fanny pack but it was about 30' away at the old tree (with my safety strap). I moved the remaining wingnut to the the shorter bolt and carefully inched down 8-10 inches at a time. Fortunately putting weight on the climber/seat put pressure on the bolt and held/locked the longer bolt in place but it was pretty nerve wracking for this fat old man to be up there that high. I got down safely but will be sure to put a spare bolt and nut back in the stand in an unused hole so it will always be there if needed.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 24, 2019, 08:46:24 PM
   Jeepcj, that must have made a terrible racket.  Glad it wasnít worse.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 24, 2019, 08:49:03 PM
Well, my dumb move of the week involved my Sawstop tablesaw.  I was using my dado blade set and mitre gauge.  Well, with the dado set installed there wasnít clearance and the blades hit the miter gauge.  Before I knew what was going on there was a bang and a jump of the saw.  Itís good to know the sawstop works as it should, but that dumb move cost me $199 for a new dado set and cartridge for the saw.  I will be more careful next time.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on November 24, 2019, 09:20:26 PM
Quote
I found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast!
I have also heard that "finding" an extension cord buried in the snow with a snowblower will cause similar results. :-X 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on November 24, 2019, 10:07:11 PM
Banjo, you are probably correct. I have to think the manufacturer included a drive shaft with a slip clutch instead of a shear bolt for a reason. It does require quite a bit of torque to get it moving, so I'll have to consider carefully before I decide to switch the drive shaft I have for one with a shear bolt.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on November 24, 2019, 11:09:03 PM
Quote
I found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast!
I have also heard that "finding" an extension cord buried in the snow with a snowblower will cause similar results. :-X
:D :D I worked in lawn and garden shops, lost count of the number of extension cords gobbled up by snowblowers. Yes sir it is a brand new cord but I cannot cover it under warranty. I sure hated cutting barbed wire out of them.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on November 25, 2019, 07:01:52 AM
Well, my dumb move of the week involved my Sawstop tablesaw.  I was using my dado blade set and mitre gauge.  Well, with the dado set installed there wasnít clearance and the blades hit the miter gauge.  Before I knew what was going on there was a bang and a jump of the saw.  Itís good to know the sawstop works as it should, but that dumb move cost me $199 for a new dado set and cartridge for the saw.  I will be more careful next time.
During one of the AWI shows I was working my booth was directly across from Sawstop. I talked to them extensively. He told me that most of the time the blade is salvageable. Did you bend the blades? I would think that you can pry the aluminum block off of it and continue to use it. 

I could be wrong, but be nice to see what happened to the blade set.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on November 25, 2019, 07:30:54 AM
Howard,

Some of us are getting too old to be climbing trees :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 25, 2019, 02:16:30 PM
There were numerous carbide teeth broken off of the blades, which may be able to be replaced, but probably not really worth the trouble.  Also, Iím afraid at least one of the chipper blades is bent.  I can post some pics in a few days when I get home from work.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on November 25, 2019, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: crowhill link=topic=105351.msg1693873#;Ddate=1574609365
But the worst thing I found with mine was several hundred feet of barbed wire that made a beautiful nest around the blades and shaft. It wound up tight and fast!


I had a similar problem on the axle of a M68 jeep when I was in the army after a night of simulated attacks during an exercise. It sucks when everyone else is sleeping while you lay on the ground cutting (what seemed like a mile of) barbed wire off your rear axle 6 inches at a time. Lesson learned!! ;D 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on November 25, 2019, 05:36:14 PM
I did the same thing with my bush hog only it was high tensile electric fence wire, can't cut it with regular wire cutters or linemen players very easily ..... cutting torch to the rescue.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: breederman on November 25, 2019, 06:14:41 PM
It doesn't take long to wrap about a half mile of electric fence wire around a hay tedder. It takes much longer to cut it out.🙄
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on November 26, 2019, 12:14:38 AM
Banjo, you are probably correct. I have to think the manufacturer included a drive shaft with a slip clutch instead of a shear bolt for a reason. It does require quite a bit of torque to get it moving, so I'll have to consider carefully before I decide to switch the drive shaft I have for one with a shear bolt.
The slip clutch is a great driveline/gearbox protector. No need to change it at all, just make sure it is operating as it should. Don't overtension it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on November 26, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
A new entry:
 I can't say who, but somebody in my household that was not me saw one of my work jackets hanging on the back of my chair and thought it looked like it needed washing, which was nice. They threw it in the washer, then dryer. 
 When I inquired as to the location of said jacket, the good Samaritan handed me a freshly laundered jacket and I thanked her for doing that for me. Then I realized the pockets felt kind of full. Wow, I said, "you even put all my stuff back in the right pockets, that's amazing". She said 'pockets?' Turns out not only was the jacket cleaned but so were my gloves, pencils, a rag, and my moisture meter. So I just ordered another cheap moisture meter last night. Try as I might I can't get this one working again. Too many corroded little electronical buggy things on the PC board to make any sense out of it. Oh well...... ;D :D :-[ 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 26, 2019, 12:37:28 PM
prob. never work again, but take out the batts open it up, and plunk it into a bowl of rice.  and if you wife makes stir fry, watch out for the probes!  that is funny,   :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on November 26, 2019, 01:02:25 PM
prob. never work again, but take out the batts open it up, and plunk it into a bowl of rice.  and if you wife makes stir fry, watch out for the probes!  that is funny,   :)
Did all that and more Doc, no go. It's gone. The backlight works, but nothing else. The detergent really did a number on those small surface mount components and IC's on the board. Just all fuzzy green stuff. It's gone.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on November 26, 2019, 02:32:26 PM
I had a favorite wool watch cap that fit just right, which is a real pain to find when your noggin is shaped like mine.  One day I went to put that on and "what the heck?"  It was about half the size it used to be, but all nice and clean and dry.....early on in the marriage, so we had a discussion about wool outer garments and proactively about my cast iron cook skillets and dutch ovens in order to avoid any other incidents... ::) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on November 26, 2019, 03:48:33 PM
Bet it overdosed in the high-moisture environment, then it pegged out again in the dryer by changing directions too fast!  ;D

But, it was a way to get a new moisture meter without an argument!  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Oliver05262 on November 26, 2019, 04:43:29 PM
K-guy, commo wire is pretty tough stuff, too. Also it comes on pretty long reels.................
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Oliver05262 on November 29, 2019, 10:04:42 PM
 Of course, I would be the next one who played "el Estupido"...............
 What do you tell your kid when you give him or her a knife to cut something? "Now don't cut towards yourself". 
 cue the warning bells. Red lights blinking. What could go wrong? And I put a new blade in the folding sheetrock knife last night.
stupid stupid STUPID  STUPID
   
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Here we are 5 stitches later. And I got to see the inside of the new Pownal clinic set up by Southwest Vermont Medical Center and met some really nice, professional people who took great care of me.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Roxie on November 30, 2019, 02:56:46 AM
At least itís your left hand.  Thatís the only good news I see here. Probably stung like a bugger.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on November 30, 2019, 06:09:45 AM
That's a bummer Oliver. Now it looks like you are only down to three. (sorry, I couldn't resist)
 At least it was a sharp knife, dull would have been much more painful. 
 Heal up quick.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 30, 2019, 06:56:52 AM
did it last week.  we had the power damaged to the shop 2 years ago with an ice storm and a neighbors tree branch that fell on overhead wires.  bent the mast, ogled the rubber seal, had to retention the wires to get me by. the stars aligned and a friend had 50 feet of 3 inch conduit, I had time off, so my son and I began placing the conduit. 130 feet pole to meter can.  got a 1/4 inch rope to pull the wires.  stretched it out to paint a line.  My son rolled it up and thought he put it in the shop.  dug and placed the pipe.  blew the fishing line and cotton ball through the pipe to pull the rope.  where was the rope?  my son thought he put it in the shop, but where?  decided it must be under the dirt, so with the back hoe, raked some dirt around thinking I would snag it.  needed a little dirt on the pipe anyway.  may place a 1 inch conduit 18 inches above the power line for cable.  next day.  looked in the shop again.  put a bucket on and moved most of the remaining dirt into piles.  "Wil where did you put the rope?".  " I do not remember".  poor guy. so after moving nearly all the dirt, I told him after class the next day to stop by Lowes and pick up another 36 dollar 150 foot bundle of rope.  he went inside.  the last place I saw it was on a pallet of old fence posts.  was parking the skid steer and as I crossed the trench, picked up one more scoop of dirt at the very end by the pallet,  there it was.  



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he did coil it up nice.  now have underground 4-0 ice proof electric service to the shop.


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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 30, 2019, 07:49:04 AM
First thing I ever put sutures was my veterinarian fathers thumb when he had a little accident involving scalpel and a calf,  I think I was 12.
I forgot my log tongs and lifting straps were in the loader bucket the other day when I went to get a scoop of asphalt grindings, some how while the tractor was warming up I remembered to check the bucket..,
Never leave bright orange or hot pink livestock marking paint stick in your coveralls pocket....There's a reason there are two sets of Laundry equipment in the house,,,, ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: breederman on November 30, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
Orange paint sticks in the dryer do not make momma happy!.....so I have heard . Lol
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on November 30, 2019, 07:57:57 PM
 :D :D I'm sorry, that is just to funny.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 30, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
It's very  much like the song lyric about crayons melting in a Maytag dryer.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on November 30, 2019, 11:41:57 PM
Yea - a pump bottle of Blue Kote left in a jacket pocket has the same spouse inciting effect..... ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 11, 2019, 09:58:25 PM
Itís been a while since I contributed to my own thread, so Monday I was milling red oak and tried to slide the logs against the stops by hand.  I felt something pop in my wrist.  I kept going, but could tell it wasnít right.  Last night I went for an X-ray which turned out negative, which is good, but I definitely tore something.  Doc said it will heal fine on itís own, but Iíve been useless the last two days.  The normal bump on my wrist is a bit bigger than itís suppised to be.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Brad_bb on December 12, 2019, 12:25:04 AM
Just over 3 weeks ago I'm pretty sure tore my rotator cuff trying to get the top radiator hose back on my tractor/forklift water pump.  I need to hew 14 timber faces, but I can't even think of swinging an axe.  Never had this before and it's taking a real long time to heal.  It's been improving very slowly.  I think at least 3 more weeks if not more to be able to swing an axe.  If I try too soon, I'll inflame it and regress the healing.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on December 12, 2019, 07:43:59 AM
Brad, a rotator does not heal. There is also a bursa up there, a fluid filled cushioning/ lubricating sac that can get angry, bursitis. Water on the knee is another p.o'ed bursa. The inflammation and pain go down but if you've torn it don't be fooled, there is a tear that only grows with abuse. The surgeon told me "Every morning you guys make a new deal with your bodies and tear another fiber" very true. Avoid the shot, let it calm down and get on you tube for some strengthening exercises to kick the inevitable down the road. If you tear one of the 4 rotator tendons out the arm usually goes down and is difficult to lift without help from the other arm but your body instinctively knows how to cheat, mine didn't go down till I tore the second tendon out, 3 is still stability in engineering terms after all. By then it had been 10 years, that first tendon was retracted and atrophied to the size of my thumb, don't fool around.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 12, 2019, 08:05:34 AM
@Brad_bb (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=6191) ...Go see your GP and get some good NSAIDs (Non Steroidal AntiInflamitory Drug) Maybe just motrin. He will tell pretty quickly if you can get by with ice, rest, and or PT or if you just need to get an MRI and go see the orthopedist, don't wait too long.
One of my classic I did something dumb moves,  was trying to tackle a goat. This was two years ago.   I used poor form and tried to arm tackle her by just sticking my arm out while she was trying hard to escape.... As the lightening bolt shot up my bicep I could hear my old football coach yelling move your feet, MOVE YOUR FEET!
I got an awesome scar out of the reattachtment surgery but I had witnesses to the event (my two younger sons) So I get corrected on how big this goat was if they are around and the story comes up, and yeah she wasn't very big. .....but she's expensive.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on December 12, 2019, 09:25:50 AM
I have eaten some mighty fine goat dishes.  food6
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 12, 2019, 09:58:22 AM
I think if I tried to take one of my goats by the horns right now, I would tear my ligament the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on December 12, 2019, 06:32:56 PM
I've been thrown to the ground by a lamb :D, when that 4 wheel drive takes off in an unexpected direction all bets are off!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on December 12, 2019, 07:44:17 PM
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) and @Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) you should both be ashamed of yourselves, telling stories about a FF member when the Kid can't even defend his own hide.  :D That's just down right rumeniscent of y'all.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on December 12, 2019, 07:46:17 PM
I've been thrown to the ground by a lamb :D, when that 4 wheel drive takes off in an unexpected direction all bets are off!
Gave up being in the PMBA eh? (Professional Mutton Bustin Association)  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 12, 2019, 08:50:51 PM
 @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) ....Funny you mention mutton busting,  I came to this area 23 years ago and after  a couple years I got to know some folks, so  I took in the  county fair rodeo next county south of here. Lots of clients there, I remember the mutton busting in particular watching, a young man hang on for dear life. He might of been all of six... Well tomorrow  I'm working his father in laws cows, his daughter is about 1 now, he is usually  there helping on these jobs, it sorta makes  one feel a little bit  old. 
It seems most animals that are considered a food source have tried to run me over at least once .... Scariest one was a camel. :o Comes with the territory I guess.

Oh yeah and I did something dumb earlier I had a few minutes  of day left  and a log qued up  on the mill, so I quick got a rough cant squared up   and promptly knocked my band off by not  raising the head, before i backed up.  You know,  hurrying....  yep heard that wonderful noise.. Wasted the rest of my visible light changing the blade, finished with the headlamp out of the truck.  Knocked three teeth out of the blade to boot. 8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on December 12, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
Yea - I did the whole speed band removal thing earlier this week, it's an even dumber move when you have a drag back system, cleared the band from the cut, but didn't get far enough out of the cut for the drag back fingers to engage, raised up and back fast - 55 HP of bang and sparks resulted....  >:(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on December 12, 2019, 09:24:29 PM
 
It seems most animals that are considered a food source have tried to run me over at least once .... Scariest one was a camel. :o
Tastes like chicken ???
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on December 12, 2019, 09:33:15 PM

It seems most animals that are considered a food source have tried to run me over at least once .... Scariest one was a camel. :o
Tastes like chicken ???
Ya know - thinking about it I have been chased by a chicken, he chose Poorly.... :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on December 12, 2019, 09:44:31 PM
We had this one rooster. I'd open the coop in the morning and fairly often he'd come off the perch at head level spurs first. There were few things more satisfying in that moment than slamming the door and hearing him whump and slide to the floor :D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on December 12, 2019, 10:56:06 PM
My wife wont let me have chickens.  She remembers being chased  by them as a kid
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 13, 2019, 05:41:40 AM
When you have an aggressive rooster, you just have to be a bigger rooster!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on December 13, 2019, 07:31:02 AM
but didn't get far enough out of the cut for the drag back fingers to engage, raised up and back fast - 55 HP of bang and sparks resulted....  >:(
That sawhead gigs back in reverse at the speed of light. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 13, 2019, 07:34:09 AM
When you have an aggressive rooster, you just have to be a bigger rooster!
or a 410 works well also!  sorry @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 13, 2019, 07:35:10 AM
Wife has banned chickens and pigs at our place at least in the live form. Packaged they are quite welcome.  She spent too much time with them growing up as well.  Every once in a while I run I into an aggressive rooster on a place, no sure why the stupid ones seem to stay around of course too many people keep stupid cows. 

@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)  I bet that bang is much more impressive indeed.  It  makes mad I still had some goody left in that blade. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on December 13, 2019, 08:24:36 AM
@Nebraska and @Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) you should both be ashamed of yourselves, telling stories about a FF member when the Kid can't even defend his own hide.   That's just down right rumeniscent of y'all.


@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) 
You shouldn't be one to talk with your habit of sacrificing chickens to the sawmill gods!!! ;D:D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 13, 2019, 08:53:48 AM
When you have an aggressive rooster, you just have to be a bigger rooster!
or a 410 works well also!  sorry @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)
We've had chickens for many years.  When I get a rooster that thinks he's boss, I just snatch him up and carry him upside down by his legs for a few minutes.  Two or three times is all it takes and he knows who the big rooster actually is..... :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on December 13, 2019, 08:59:09 AM
   The camel I ate always tasted more like stringy beef than chicken to me. A half liter of cold camel's milk and a Cadbury Hazelnut chocolate bar was a tasty snack however.

  My wife has several screws in her shoulder from our old billy goat who became suddenly deceased shortly after he dislocated her should. She and our former Norwegian exchange student finally got him wrestled to the ground and Ruth tied him to a sapling with her belt. My son came home, tied a hay string  to his collar and led him back to the barn. If he'd have stayed in he'd have just found a new home the next auction day. He kept breaking out and my wife was afraid he'd hurt someone else and issued the death warrant for him.

  I'm with
@Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) on tasty goat however. My old mentor used to raise them and they were good eating, especially BBQ'd.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 13, 2019, 09:00:07 AM
when we had a dog kill a chicken, it gets duck taped to the back of the dog for a few hours.  our German Shepard would still stalk but would not touch.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jeff on December 13, 2019, 09:28:03 AM
That sounds kinda like the story my dad told about a dog his dad had that would chase deer. He put the dog and a deer hide in a barrel and rolled it down the hill that dropped down to the little salt river flats. The dog apparently thought the deer was kicking his butt and he never chased another deer.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on December 13, 2019, 09:42:16 AM
When I was "growing up" back in the 50's there were no deer on our property, but there was a herd of wild goats.  All different colors and when I say wild, I mean WILD.  If any goat saw suspicious movement the only thing left would be their stink when they fled.  You had to approach from downwind and hopefully find the herd by spotting a white one.

A very careful stalk was necessary to get close enough to pop a nanny with the .22 rifle.  During those years that was our source of "wild" meat, and the .22 was the only rifle that we had.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 13, 2019, 10:04:01 AM
About 15 years ago some undisciplined goats jumped out of a truck a couple of miles from here.  The owner had just bought them and was hauling them in a truck with a stake bed enclosure.  Only thing wrong with that was there was no top.  Needless to say the goats jumped and ran.

After a week or so they took up with our cows.  That wasn't a problem as long as the cows were at pasture but when the cows came to the barn to be fed during the winter it was a different story.  The goats got in the barn, chewed through strings on hay bales, pooped indiscriminately and tore up the feed sacks.

My brother-in-law handled the barn operations and was at his wits end on what to do with the goats.  He finally took me up on the offer to dispose of them after animal control and the animal rescue folks failed to capture them.

Little did I know how hard they were to hunt!  They were subsequently processed and given to some neighbors for roasting. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on December 13, 2019, 10:42:24 AM
   When we first moved here to WV we bought 4 goats to clear the multiflora roses that had taken over before we bought the place. We had strung a haphazard electric fence thinking it would hold them. Wrong. They immediately escaped. About a month later a neighbor caught one and tied up at our place and she had a kid a few weeks later. About 6-7 months later a neighbor asked me if I was still missing goats and I told him yes - 3 of them. He said they were hanging out with his ponies at an old farm house about half a mile or so up the mountain. The road was impassable for vehicles up to it but we walked up and found 2 of our goats both with kids they had had over the winter. I met the owner of the place and he allowed me to use an old log shed as a trap so I set a falling door and figure  4 trigger and caught them and we gentled them down and later sold them. The one goat we never found was brown and I assume someone shot her for a deer. When building a fence to hold goats use the water test - if it will hold water it will hold a goat. if not it won't. Pretty near true.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 13, 2019, 08:27:20 PM
I put up 4í field fence and two strands of barbed wire up to 6í.  Amazingly they have not gotten out in the 5 years I have had them.  They are troublemakers though.  The other day I noticed my chickens were troubled by something.  I looked into the pop door for the coop and saw hooves.  My big fat goats had gotten into the coop thru a door that is about 10Ēx12Ē.  It seemed impossible, but they were in there.  Ate all the chicken food.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on December 13, 2019, 09:29:15 PM
You can BBQ a possum too, but I don't.  A man has to make choices :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ianab on December 14, 2019, 02:48:36 AM
You can BBQ a possum too, but I don't.  A man has to make choices :).
Slow cooker, with a heap of curry. 
We have a native bird called a Pukeko (swamp hen). Instructions for cooking one is to put it in a pot with am axe head to weight it down. When the axehead is tender, throw away the pukeko and eat the axe.  :D
Our Opossums are the Aussie variety, and actually edible in pinch. Never been that hungry though. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 14, 2019, 06:10:23 AM
It seems like I do dumb stuff with some regularity.  For a very long time I have been compelled by some overblown sense of pride to keep the dumb stuff I do to myself.  

So this thread is ďtherapeticĒ (Barney called it that).  

Latest dumb thing - after doing some routine maintenance under the hood of my Ram 3500, I was closing the hood.  So I reached up and pulled the hood latch loop by inserting two fingers in the loop. The hood came down faster than I expected. I did get my fingers clear of the latch but didnít get my hand out of the hood.  Yep the hood closed and latched on my right hand. It took a couple of minutes to free myself.  All I cloud think about was Red Forman from That 70ís Show..... 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on December 14, 2019, 08:59:21 AM
SawyerTed,
Don't know why but that story reminded me a one dad would tell about a gentleman.  The incident happened when dad was a kid, late 20's.  A man was working in his field with horse and wagon and was jumping out of the wagon to the ground.  This is something routine as we may jump from the back of a truck.  As he did he grabbed the side of the wagon with his hand and jumped over the side rail. When he did this the tip of a finger went into a knot hole.  So this left the man standing on the ground with the end of his finger protruding out of the knot hole and unable to jump back up into the wagon.  Being afraid the horse would move off and not having anyone around to help him he resorted to using his pocket knife to remove the end of his finger so he could get his hand free.   Don't know if it was true or not but he told it several times.

Glad your truck did not run off!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 14, 2019, 10:46:43 AM
great lesson, hopefully not true!  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 14, 2019, 12:36:42 PM
That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while! :D

Not the man cutting his finger off -  ouch!  I'm glad it wasn't a horse and wagon too!

When my son was 3 or 4 he was my right hand man (still is he's 29).  I was spreading fertilizer on our pastures.  There was a pallet of 50 pound bags in the bed of my pick up truck.  My son was "helping" load the spreader from the back of the truck.  My wife was also around helping watch the kids by the way.  My son saw me jump out of the truck to get on the tractor.  So after I drove off he thought he would jump like dad did.  I turned around and saw him dangling from the corner of the tailgate from the seat of his pants.  He decided it was cool before I got back to free him.  When I got over to him he yelled, "Look Dad!  I'm Superman!"   :D :D :D

I felt like Dumb and Dumber (where one character put his tongue on a frozen metal pole) standing there in front of my truck with my hand stuck in the hood.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 14, 2019, 01:56:26 PM
the trick is learning the lesson without permanent injury or death.  sometimes just dumb luck. smiley_swinging_board smiley_carpenter_hit_thumb :snowball1: :snowfight1: hurt_smiley
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on December 14, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
This was a few weeks ago.
I was putting in a drainage ditch to get water to flow under my driveway instead of over it. Some years the ice has been over a foot deep!
The 100 amp service to my garage goes across where I needed the drain. Not really a problem because I knew where the wire was because I put it there. 18 years ago. I dug my 36" deep ditch until I got to where the wire was (supposed to be) then I slowed way down and dug about an inch at a time with the backhoe. I figured that was safe because I had put tracer tape over the wire. Find the tracer tape, do a little hand digging then go back to digging with the backhoe at full speed. 
Well, I dug 8 feet or so to full depth and didn't find the wire. Maybe it's deeper than I remembered? Just to be safe I dug another 8 feet at a painfully slow pace looking for the wire. It's not there. It must be deeper than I remembered. Good, I gotta get this ditch done before I lose daylight so of I go at full speed. 
 You guessed it, the wire was at the depth I thought, just about 15 feet from where I was sure it was. 
  Luckily I have a friend at the local professional electric supply house. He fixed me up with what I needed to fix my mistake. Took me about 2.5 hours in 15 degree weather after work the following night to get the service back to my garage. 

mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on December 14, 2019, 04:01:01 PM
I felt like Dumb and Dumber (where one character put his tongue on a frozen metal pole)

Fond memories!  When I was about 9 or 10 (youngest of 7 kids in 9 years), my oldest brother was about 16 or 17?  He was always doing all sorts of experiments.  

He screwed together some half inch steel pipe with a little brass valve on one end.  Before he put a cap on the other end, he put some dry ice in it.  Not sure what he was trying to do - maybe make a co2 fire extinguisher?  Anyhow, it got really frosted up.  So he touched his tongue to it.  Yep, froze the tip right to it! ::)  I remember my mom pouring warm water over his tongue while leaning over the kitchen sink.   He was tugging pretty hard and I think he lost a few taste buds in that one. :D

Another one was (with the help of my dad) filling dry cleaners bags with natural gas (stove gas) and sending the balloons aloft with streamers and such.  Pretty neat.  Got the bright idea to do one at night.  Counter balance with a piece of coat hanger (plastic IIRC) on one end and a never-go-out birthday candle on the other.  What could go wrong? ::) We set it free in the back yard and up it goes.  Over our house into the front yard.  Up a couple hundred feet.  Way cool!  Then it rolled over and was engulfed in a massive ball of flame!  Came crashing down in the middle of the street, a puddle of burning plastic.  Neighbors thought it was a UFO or something.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 16, 2019, 07:20:15 AM
@firefighter (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=8493) otheside 20 or so years I built a pen I called "goat knox " 8 strands of hightensile fencing every other wire hot. Worked great til one day after a thunderstorm the goats were up in the yard helping themselves to lilac bushes, fruit trees, and whatever else they found irresistible. Lightening had burnt the yard light wire in two and blown the fuses out of their holder on the electric fencer.  It looked impressive to me.... three years ago It was replaced with combination livestock panels with board stiffners between posts and a hot wire around the top. It hasn't been breached yet. As long as I remember to chain the gate that is. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 16, 2019, 06:01:40 PM
I let the goats out to eat today.  I guess they werenít finding a lot with the new snow on the ground.  So they kept going in the garage.  One of them went under my truck and got stuck.  I had to crawl under there and pull him out.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 16, 2019, 06:19:01 PM
when we lived out in Fort Hays Ks, we had about 60 chickens, ducks and geese.  the neighbors Labrador would carry them home and bury them live in the garden.  I had an answering machine and would get the message that their dog brought them a duck and it was in the garage and I could just come and get it when I got home.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on December 16, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
I would have told them to return it after all, they caused it to be taken! :-\ 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 16, 2019, 06:38:13 PM
I did eventually tell them that, but I think they thought they "got out"  and it was usually the same dog.  told them they could just drive by and toss it into the yard, and they were happy to do that.  is was a group of houses out in the country with about 50 families and everyone watched out for each other.  if I burned a bunch of cedar limbs or something, 2 or 3 cars would drive by.  we were on the back of the group and not seen by others easily.  they were just making sure we did not have a fire and in need of help. :)  and of course I worked a ton and usually got home after 9 pm.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 16, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
Iím sure Iíve put the neighborís cows back in the pasture a dozen times in the last few years.  Itís what neighbors do for each other here.

We have a neighbor who brings my dog home after the dog goes to visit. Of course my neighbor loves my dog so she brings the dog home after they ride to the store, visit her sister and have a sleepover.  I usually get a call from my neighbor that my dog is visiting.  Used to happen once or twice a month.  Now not so often.

What did I do dumb today?  I got into an online discussion with a troll.....duh.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 21, 2019, 12:28:00 PM
Well I really qualified today. The holiday break started last night for me and after a late music gig last night I got out as early as I could this morning to start in the shop. First task, clean off the bench and remove a sheet of 5/8" plywood that is going to be a tool board, and cut about a foot off so that it won't interfere with a floor joist later. Cleared the bench and removed all the tapcons holding the sheet up. it stays in place. (?) So I get a shim bar and begin lifting it away from the wall. It is jammed between the sheet above it and the board below it. I work my way across the bottom, peeling it away very cautious that the whole thing could drop. I get the entire bottom edge out and just hanging. It is still not falling. Now I have a good grip on the bottom edge with both hands because I know the weight. Shake, shimmy, nothing. I relax my grip and remove my right hand followed by my left as I am thinking "what the ..... WHAM!! Down it came. About a 8" drop. I had not gotten my left hand fully out and there was no time to apply any grip. It crushed my index and middle finger. My index kind of exploded and the middle finger just took a direct hit. I don't ever recall feeling that kind of pain. No, I am not laughing yet. I got the glove off hoping all my fingers were still attached, and there was a fair amount of blood so I could not see much, but I could feel ........ A LOT. I headed across the yard to the house and asked the wife between gasps for some ice. I was fighting the urge to pass out and/or throw up. It took 20 minutes before I got control of my senses.
 It's one of those things that is worse than it looks.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF3406.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1576944333)
 

I bandaged up the index finger so I could work but the middle finger did not burst so it is swollen tight. The index is getting better, but that middle one is very sensitive and when I touch something the wrong way it all comes back.
 i followed the blood trail back to the shop (pretty on the frozen snow) and got the sheet down, cut it off,put it back up and rehung it. All good now.

(http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/DSCF3412.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1576944324)
 
 But man, this pain isn't really going away none too fast and I got really tired, so I came in to take a break. Started at 10 degrees this morning, not ready to run the mill yet, it's only up to 20 now. Maybe I'll just rest for a bit before I go back at it. 
 Man that was dumb.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on December 21, 2019, 01:08:32 PM
OGH,

  Sorry about the boo boo! Looks painful. Brings back memories of similar times. I have a bottle of excess pain pills left over my dentist gave me the last time he drilled a post in my jaw for a future implant that I had been thinking of throwing away but after looking at your digits there I think I may just keep them a little longer for contingencies like that. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 21, 2019, 05:16:09 PM
Oooowwwiee wooowwwsser!  I pinched off a hemorrhoid just thinking about that!  Gosh I hope you feel better soon!  I mashed two of my fingers working firewood in March.  One is fine the other is still recovering.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on December 21, 2019, 07:00:31 PM
OUUCH!  I mighta uttered ugly comments if that had occurred here.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on December 21, 2019, 07:38:50 PM
I feel your pain! I tried to stop a firewood row from collapsing and got my finger between a stationary block and the falling blocks. Lost my finger nail on that one. At this age it still amazes me that I have to try to catch these things but I'm learning.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 21, 2019, 07:42:21 PM
even worse when your hands are cold.  feel better soon! smiley_carpenter_hit_thumb
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on December 21, 2019, 07:43:12 PM
Old Greenhorn, the upside is that you weren't working outside when you did that. 
If you mash your fingers like that when your hands are really cold, you don't really, really feel how bad it is....until you go inside, take off your mitts and feel the whole Dang stupid moment get replayed in slow'mo as your hand warms up.
Priceless!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on December 21, 2019, 07:45:12 PM
Hey Doc, sounds like you've been there!
😨
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on December 21, 2019, 07:47:55 PM

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/19307/20190813_192329~2.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1576974582)
Well, it WAS my favorite mug.
'nuff said.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 21, 2019, 07:53:08 PM
sadly @Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307)   yes, more than once. we all have to learn and occasionally need a "booster" lesson!  some more than others.   :D  @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 21, 2019, 08:36:08 PM
Andries, sorry about your mug. I hate when that happens. Be happy you weren't drinking from it at the time this happened. ;D

As for my own blunder, I am just glad that mu fingers came out of the glove with the rest of my hand. I just did a bandage change on the index finger and there was a 'bit' more of a hole/tear than I thought. It felt OK all day, so I didn't baby it but apparently it had been seeping the whole time. It's a bigger hole than I had thought. ;D Good thing I have had a lot of wound care practice, this is gonna take a while to close. OH, and I have been corrected, it was 3/4 ply, not 5/8. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on December 21, 2019, 11:06:54 PM
From one tree frog to another, by the looks of that ring finger, this ain't your first rodeo :D

I'm about healed up from the metal roof edge a couple of weeks ago, the judges on the ground didn't give high marks on form even though I stuck the landing on the lower roof, something about deductions for screaming like a girl ::) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 22, 2019, 06:59:15 AM
From one tree frog to another, by the looks of that ring finger, this ain't your first rodeo :D

I'm about healed up from the metal roof edge a couple of weeks ago, the judges on the ground didn't give high marks on form even though I stuck the landing on the lower roof, something about deductions for screaming like a girl ::)
Nope, not my first rodeo and I am sure we will load him up into the gate again soon. ;D In retrospect, I am usually that guy that swallows a deep groan/grunt when I do something like this, but this time a let out a howl that kind of scared me. Most unusual indeed. :D
 That middle finger is pretty much a stick this morning wish I had a leech to relieve the pressure.
 There were no judges around but it happened so fast and was so severe that I headed to the house so the wife could make a call if needed. Probably could have put a stitch or two in the finger. 
Last night we had the grandchildren over to decorate our little tree and the 5 year old comes up to me smiling as I was re-dressing that finger. He said "Look Grandpa, I used the adult scissors and I didn't cutted myself!" I said, "yes, you have to be very careful with scissors!". He said "yes, that's right, because if you are not careful you put tiny holes in your hand." To which I replied "that's right! kind of like this hole?" and I showed him the index finger. To my surprise he got his nose right up there and studied it closely. The he looked up at me and said " No Grandpa, I said TINY HOLES. that hole is too big to be from scissors!" :D I laughed so hard I nearly cried. He's gonna be a good one. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Dakota on December 22, 2019, 03:58:36 PM
@Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307), being a Yeti, makes it worse. >:(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on December 22, 2019, 08:09:23 PM
You're right, Dakota.
I'm back to using Big Bubba.
It's dented, but lives a charmed freaking life. 
Fifty foot run-away Western Red Cedar logs roll off the forks and Big Bubba takes a hit. I find it under a pile of cedar bark. Not a scratch.
Forget Bubba on the trailer, drive to the city and its still sitting there on the deck.
Fill it with water, it's frozen solid in the morning and still smiling.
The Yeti died a quick and decisive death.
I could forget Bubba at the Pig Roast, and a dozen years later, some guy named
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) would return it to me saying: 'Hey, your name is scratched on the bottom'.
😆
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on December 23, 2019, 07:00:29 AM
With the price of the YETI brand products, it seems you could get some kind of warranty or accident insurance with them!  :'(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 23, 2019, 09:08:32 AM
Iím proud of yíall for keeping my thread going for so long.  I guess as long as we keep doing dumb things, it will continue to grow.

Andries, is that yeti sitting on top of the tire that ran over it?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on December 23, 2019, 09:10:40 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 23, 2019, 02:57:29 PM
Oh I'm pretty sure this thread is safe for a long time.   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 23, 2019, 05:49:30 PM
Iím proud of yíall for keeping my thread going for so long.  I guess as long as we keep doing dumb things, it will continue to grow.
As long as there are sawyers and loggers and builders I don't think this thread will die. You would be surprised at the number of things I chose NOT to post here. I think there is a chance I am not alone. ;D ;D There is 'dumb' and then there is 'embarrassingly stupid'. No, I don't think we need to start another thread for that, this one is just fine as is. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 23, 2019, 06:19:12 PM
As long as there are human beings, this thread will live on!

I just happen to be extremely human too! :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on December 23, 2019, 06:23:51 PM
   As we used to say in the industry side of the house "This topic is Evergreen". The reason it stays alive is all of us, sawyers, woodworkers, loggers, cooks, hunters/outdoorsmen, whatever can relate to this thread as we have all been there is some fashion - and will be there in the future if the truth be told. My biggest hope is when someone reads it they will think about it and maybe, just maybe, it will keep one reader from getting hurt. Have a safe and happy holiday season and keep them posts a'coming.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 06, 2020, 05:16:33 PM
Note to self: Ted, don't put your toolbox on the roller conveyor that carries your slabs away from the sawmill.

It doesn't turn out well.  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on January 06, 2020, 05:24:23 PM
Did you get a picture of the carnage?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 06, 2020, 05:44:11 PM
A certain sense of pride, embarrassment, mortification and later humility prevented me from having the presence of mind to photograph the wrenches, sockets, pliers and screwdrivers scattered among the slabs.

It was bad.  On a positive note, my metal detector finally was useful!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on January 06, 2020, 07:20:03 PM
I'm glad to hear that the result was only a bruised ego, and that no stitches or emergency room visits were required.
Some accident reports are hard to write.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rhodemont on January 07, 2020, 08:12:51 AM
Have had some nice tiger maple slabs in the basement for about a year.  Went down the bulkhead to take a look.  Decided to bring one out to the shop .  On the way out while carrying this big slab I banged my head on the low slung cast iron sewer pipe.  Dropped me to my knees.  But, to avoid damaging the live edge on the slab I was able to hang onto to it which ended up in it smashing my hands against the floor.  Good thing had heavy gloves on. My head,neck, back, knees and hands still hurt.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on January 07, 2020, 10:11:40 AM
Have had some nice tiger maple slabs in the basement for about a year.  Went down the bulkhead to take a look.  Decided to bring one out to the shop .  On the way out while carrying this big slab I banged my head on the low slung cast iron sewer pipe.  Dropped me to my knees.  But, to avoid damaging the live edge on the slab I was able to hang onto to it which ended up in it smashing my hands against the floor.  Good thing had heavy gloves on. My head,neck, back, knees and hands still hurt.
AH but you saved the slab!  All the other stuff will heal.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: richhiway on January 11, 2020, 06:33:55 PM
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/35823/20200109_141515.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1578785517)
 
Broke the plastic fuel fitting off taking the tarp of the mill. Plastic and cold weather don't mix. Luckily it was pipe thread and I had a brass nipple that fit.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on January 11, 2020, 07:07:21 PM
Good to keep a spare fitting around. The O ring will eventually let go as well. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 11, 2020, 07:36:24 PM
Rich,

  Been there, done that. Fortunately WM is quick to respond and an easy fix. As I remember we were able to stick the hose down in the tank and run the mill till the part got here a couple days later.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on January 11, 2020, 07:40:07 PM
Been there, "done that" too Howard!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on January 11, 2020, 08:49:20 PM
So today I was replacing the blown out ballast in the fluorescent light with 2 nice new led tubes. I was smart. I pulled the string and shut the light off. But then I was promptly dumb right after that and forgot the feed was still very much live. I did not pop the breaker but pretty sure something else popped. Like my pants :)

Then after that I was going under the sawmill frame to turn another light off. Well there is a clamp on it that has been holding the linear bearing to it. I managed to drag my nice bald head all the way down the clamp. Looks like grand canyon in my head. When I looked up after it was done there was a very large chunk of skin still on the end of the bar clamp.

Anybody want pics? 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 11, 2020, 09:33:40 PM
Cru,

  No thanks. I am still traumatized from the last MagicMan pictures.

Guys,

  If you have sore aching muscles and use heating rubs like Ben Gay and such be sure to thoroughly wash your hands before you go pee. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Brad_bb on January 11, 2020, 09:33:46 PM
I touched an upright with my band on Friday after well over a year of not doing so.  Luckily I was going slow and backed off as soon as I felt/heard it.  The band should be ok after resharp, and it's just going to add to the scars on the uprights.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 11, 2020, 09:51:58 PM
@Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059) my head hurts thinking about that!  

@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) I have no words.....but ooooowwww!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 11, 2020, 10:43:18 PM
Tough day guys. In lots of areas. :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on January 12, 2020, 09:26:25 AM
If you have sore aching muscles and use heating rubs like Ben Gay and such be sure to thoroughly wash your hands before you go pee. 'Nuff said.


Worth repeating!!!! That goes the same for icy hot!!!!!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 12, 2020, 09:51:30 AM
   That is actually the brand I use (Not that it has ever happened to me you understand....). :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 12, 2020, 09:59:22 AM
So I hadn't taken the time to shave for a couple days and my razor was dull so got a new one out of the package. ....I'll spare you the rest involves  no styptic powder...pencil eraser sized divot on my chin, now  my chin is  packing a bandaid... skipping church.... I handle sharp things everyday.
At least it's a regular bandaid not Buzz Light Year..... 
Also previous posts made me remember the icy hot in the jock strap prank from high school football.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on January 12, 2020, 10:23:30 AM
If I am going to sport a bandaid it better be a good one. I will rock anything as long as its not spongebob!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on January 12, 2020, 12:27:22 PM
What do you have against Spongebob?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on January 12, 2020, 01:16:41 PM
Another thing to remember - don't squish a stink bug close enough to your face that it hits you in the eye --- it's worst than CS and Pepper spray together, discovered that the other day!!! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 12, 2020, 01:19:08 PM
Nebraska, I have lost count of the number of times I winged myself with a razor. I have to remember to shave BEFORE I put on a clean shirt.
Southside my wife had never encountered stink bugs before we moved to the Okanagan, she freaked when they made their annual appearance. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on January 12, 2020, 01:35:41 PM
I hate stink bugs. Can't grow decent tomatoes anymore. I wish the government would allow wide distribution of that Asian Samurai wasp that kills them.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on January 12, 2020, 01:37:12 PM
pretty sure they brought in stinkbugs to kill something else then something else to kill them. every time they bring in something to kill something else it ends up being worse than what they killed. I wish ppl would stop meddling in the affairs of mother nature.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on January 12, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
Stink bugs came over in shipping containers from Asia (Japan, China, Korea) in the late 1990's. No natural predators here, so they spread quickly. They are resistant to pesticides and cause millions of dollars per year in crop damage across the country, and they also ruin my tomatoes. Where they come from in Asia, stink bugs are not a problem because they are naturally controlled by mother nature with the Samurai wasp. I'm all for widespread release in the States, as they are already beginning to establish natural populations in some areas of the northeast (apparently some wasps are making it here in shipping containers also).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 12, 2020, 03:24:00 PM
First my wife's cousin brewed a cup of coffee in her fancy k cup machine yesterday.  Her husband bought a new flavor of coffee and she wasn't sure she cared for the flavor.  When she got to the bottom of her first cup of the day she decided to check the coffee, the coffe maker and the k cup.  Yep, a stink bug between the k cup and the bottom of the cup holder.  She promptly puked in the kitchen sink.

Second, Neem Oil is an excellent organic pesticide/fungicide that prevents stink bugs from hurting tomatoes, squash and other vegetables.  It doesn't work like a synthetic pesticide but is more a systemic so it takes more frequent applications to begin with.  Combined with an insecticidal soap it is very effective.  Don't expect to see insects falling over dead initially but over a week or so it works!  The other benefit is it is a natural fungicide and leaf polish.  Just don't use it on broccoli, Neem Oil will taint the flavor.

Permetherin is an excellent stink bug repellant. Sprayed around doors, windows, attic vents etc it helps repell stink bugs.  We have a tenth of the things this year since I sprayed Permetherin.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 12, 2020, 04:49:31 PM
   FWIW and because inquiring minds want to know - when I was working in Jeddah Saudi Arabia I learned a Neem tree is a chinaberry tree. I assume that is where neem oil comes from. Our CBs were round and the ones over there were oblong. Over there it is a well loved tree with many medical uses.

   Dad grew up in N. central Fla along the Suwannee River in Dixie County and most folks ran free range hogs and had a hog claim registered with the county (Remember what started the Hatfield McCoy feud?). Dad said they would cut every chinaberry tree they found because he said their hogs would starve to death sitting under a chinaberry tree waiting for a chinaberry to fall rather than getting out and foraging on acorns and other available forage. I think my horse is like that - he will starve to death waiting at the gate for me to bring him a cup of sweet feed rather than grazing on knee high pasture grass.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 12, 2020, 10:11:22 PM
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503)  ok it's winter up here what do your stink bugs look like? It's past season here I just wonder if what I call a stink bug is the same. Curious that's all. 
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) ,  I really think it's common in horses as well as goats....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 12, 2020, 10:21:54 PM
It's winter here too but it was 70į today.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/48503/image~90.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1578885441)
 
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256),  Southern Stink bug y'all.  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 12, 2020, 11:23:37 PM
Yep same stink bug, they don't do so well at 14į. Haven't seen one for months.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on January 12, 2020, 11:27:43 PM
Either of you have the green ones now? They are smaller, only been seeing them for about a year or two.  76 here today.... ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Brad_bb on January 12, 2020, 11:29:06 PM
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) I hate those little suckers.  You vacuum them up and they stink the place up! I deal with those coming in in the farmhouse here. I'll bet they get in the attic vent and find their way down.  Fortunately I'm not long for this house!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on January 13, 2020, 05:37:10 AM
Them critters like my squash plants, especially the zucchini plants.
So far they stay in the garden and not in the house. I don't have them on my tomatoes, yet,
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: alanh on January 13, 2020, 12:00:27 PM
I`m building a new bathroom vanity from a pile of red oak I  cut awhile back, after getting the front frame on I grabbed a nice piece off the pile and cut out the panel doors, I planed `em down,routered them up,stuck them together and set them against the vanity.....then noticed they were white oak..doh. Picture is of the second (proper lumber) set of doors.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on January 14, 2020, 07:40:10 AM
That is looking really good. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: alanh on January 14, 2020, 09:16:44 AM
Thank`s, it`s my first project that involves doors and drawers in quite a few years, getting the "relearning curve" back created some designer kindling wood. I made the drawer guides from wood last night, that went pretty well compared to the doors, got them first shot.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 20, 2020, 07:42:07 PM
   Well, it was yesterday actually. I had a pile of free (There's that word again) dirt I got from the road department several months back. I have been using it as fill to raise the level of my lower lot next to the creek behind my boat house and fish and game cleaning station. I have been moving it whenever I had a little spare time and the weather permitted with baby John (JD 750) and my small FEL. I was nearly done and determined to finish yesterday even though the lot was a little damp. I finally got all the dirt spread now just need to dress it up a little when the ground dries out (or freezes?) and I can drive the tractor over it with my blade and not bog down too badly. Anyway I put baby John up last night and decided to use him to move my stack of mantels as a neighbor wants a badly split up hickory one for a river table.Of course it is on the bottom of the stack so I had to move the 10 above it. Mostly they are stacked 3 mantels wide and each is 3-4 inches thick and mostly 8-10 feet long so they are pretty heavy. It was down in the low 20's last night so I plugged in the block heater for 30-40 minutes while I worked on some other project. I cranked baby John up and started to back out to the front of the shed to put the forks in the bucket but John kept veering right. I checked to see that I wasn't in a frozen rut then checked the tires to make sure none were flat. No problem there. Finally I realized the soft mud on the front tie rods had frozen and would not allow me to steer. I knocked enough off with a spud bar and hatchet  to get some range of motion then drove down to the lot to the spigot and washed all the mud out solving the problem. Just a reminder - if you are are working in soft mud in the winter you would be well served to wash, power wash if possible, any mud and snow away from the steering connections on your mobile equipment. 

   BTW - mill feet will stick in the ice and frozen mud too if you dug them in and you have had rain or melting snow so you might be well served to put them on wooden blocks or such.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jim_Rogers on January 21, 2020, 09:51:36 AM
Well, it wasn't today or yesterday. It was Saturday.
I fell down.
I twisted my ankle on some not flat surface and lost it while carrying a 1x6x16 over to the pile.
My right shoulder hit the ground hard and my right hand got bent backwards a lot but I didn't break anything other than my pride.
Not fun at all.
It took me a while to get up.
Lots of pain in the shoulder, but that's mostly normal, it was before I fell.

Jim Rogers
PS. I haven't told my wife.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on January 21, 2020, 09:53:38 AM
PS. I haven't told my wife.
Why would you?!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on January 21, 2020, 04:03:51 PM
Glad youíre not hurt too bad.  That sounds like something she doesnít need to know.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jim_Rogers on January 21, 2020, 04:12:47 PM
PS. I haven't told my wife.
Why would you?!   :D :D :D
If I did she'd most likely say: "that's high on the list of things you're not suppose to do......!"
Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on January 21, 2020, 07:56:09 PM
PS. I haven't told my wife.

Yep,  No broken bones, gashes, no big expense, no hospital visit required!  Meets the criteria of never happened.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: boonesyard on January 29, 2020, 10:53:08 AM
I know better, but I did it anyway.

Never, ever set anything down close to the equipment tires. In a hurry, cut the timber, set the saw down, finish stacking, jump on the tractor, back up, oops (I think I used different words) :o. Maybe it'll cut beveled timbers...

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on January 29, 2020, 10:59:33 AM
at least no one was injured in the making of this movie.   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on January 29, 2020, 11:13:11 AM
That way you can make tight cuts without the motor blocking your view.  ;D  :D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 29, 2020, 11:19:13 AM
   Looks kind of like an old Dizzy Gillespie trumpet. :D Sorry to see that but glad it is just property and no body parts involved.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on January 29, 2020, 11:19:53 AM
Pull the rope and see if it still runs. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RAYAR on January 29, 2020, 11:24:56 AM
Ran over mine last summer and it looked worse than yours, bent and twisted bar. Also had to work on the chain brake and anti-vibe suspension of front handle bar. Spent a few hours at it but works and cuts like it never happened. No new parts either. ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: boonesyard on January 29, 2020, 11:47:15 AM
Luckily it's just the bar. 

My wife was the one that jumped in the tractor and backed up. When we saw it, she just glared at me from the cab as if to say "go ahead, I dare you, blame me". I set the saw down, my bad. :-*
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on January 31, 2020, 05:26:16 PM
My turn.  I was trimming off some extra metal from my log arch to lighten it up and getting ready for some paint touch up.  Using an angle grinder to take off a section of ľ" plate.  I was cutting at mid-chest height.  Most of the way through and it caught or bound up a bit.  It kicked back and down and bounced off my thigh just above my knee.  Hit the ground and the 3/32" wheel exploded (no shrapnel injury, though)  That smarts, I thought, rubbing my thigh.  Weird, it didn't cut my pants there, just hurt like it got hit.  Really hurt.  Then I noticed the slice in my jeans about 6" higher.  I looked through the hole and said a Bandaid is not gonna fix this.  Off to the ER.

I almost took a before stitches picture to rival an MM post but didn't want to ruin anyone's breakfast or lunch.  It was a pretty gaping wound but only the skin was sliced and presumably instantly cauterized as there was very little blood.  Lets just say I'm not lean meat.  Three mattress stitches and eight regular.


 
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 31, 2020, 05:48:59 PM
 :o I had cutoff wheels kick back, that could have been a lot worse!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on January 31, 2020, 05:58:00 PM
@ljohnsaw (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=20640)  many of us are on low carb. so a little fat and meat is OK.  it is "whats for dinner."!   :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on January 31, 2020, 06:03:31 PM
probably the motor housing hit you where you felt it, and didn't feel the wheel up higher :-[
glad your ok, will not take time to heal since you got stitched up quick, could of been quite bad just another 6" up .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: boonesyard on January 31, 2020, 06:49:58 PM
At least it missed the important stuff  :). Glad it isnt any worse.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 31, 2020, 07:37:53 PM
Dang it man!  I'm glad it's not worse and hope you have trouble free recovery and healing! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on January 31, 2020, 09:33:33 PM
I almost took a before stitches picture to rival an MM post but didn't want to ruin anyone's breakfast or lunch.
This is not a contest John!!!   :-X
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on February 01, 2020, 07:41:43 AM
Wow very glad that wasn't worse. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on February 01, 2020, 09:21:07 AM
Oh man not good, glad it was not worse.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on February 01, 2020, 10:20:03 AM
I know.  And I know exactly what I did wrong. 1. I was cutting such that it was throwing sparks away from me.  The second it grabbed, it pushed towards me and rotated deeper into the metal causing it to push harder. 2. I was standing wrong.  I was directly in the line of fire. I always almost always stand to the side. 3. Didn't have a secure grip on the grinder.

A hard lesson I shall never forget.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on February 01, 2020, 06:00:43 PM
An fellow I know had a grinding disc explode. Shrapnel penetrated his abdomen. ER docs missed the shrapnel on the X-ray. He ended up with a life threatening infection. Keep the shield on your grinder! I cut my wrist with one when I was 17 years old or so. Had that scar for 30 + years. 
mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on February 01, 2020, 06:13:26 PM
Now moose hunter itís good you put that + sign in there cause if your age is right that should read 40 years.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on February 01, 2020, 08:17:02 PM
Went to the cabin to check things, read the meter, and work a little on a medium big burr oak blowd own.  Supposed to be a quick trip. Got snow down the boots hiking over to the tree >:(. Decided just to work on some of the crown and smaller stuff, as the spare bigger saw is down and at home 128 miles away (so only one saw up there right....) only had a couple more cuts to make and it's  time to bring the tractor up any way.  The  branch shifts as I'm cutting  and pinches the  chain tight. >:( :( :(.  Didn't pack a saw or hatchet along and they are now 1/4 mile away through fairly deep snow.  
"I DID SOMETHING DUMB TODAY" RUNS through my head. Blew about an hour fenangling to get it free. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 01, 2020, 11:32:25 PM
I hate when that happens.  Been there done that!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on February 02, 2020, 07:31:43 AM
The only thing worse than not having a chainsaw is only having one chainsaw :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on February 02, 2020, 11:16:20 AM
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370)  Yep, and I so know that. The back up saw is an old worn husky 372 that now needs refreshing or replacing.  I could've  easily grabbed another small saw to use as back up before I left home, but you know the "oh it'll be fine" line of thinkng we all have at various points in time. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on February 02, 2020, 11:40:03 AM
Now moose hunter itís good you put that + sign in there cause if your age is right that should read 40 years.  Banjo
Ya, but the scar went away some years ago!
mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on February 02, 2020, 11:40:34 AM
 :D I am glad I'm not the only one that has done that. I feel a little better now.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on February 02, 2020, 11:50:22 AM
The only thing worse than not having a chainsaw is only having one chainsaw :).
Suspecting that I might get into that quandry one day I brought the longer bar and chain with me, just in case.
Sure enough it happened.  Removed the power head, put the longer bar and chain on and cut myself out of my predicamant.  Then went back to my shorter bar and chain.
I did not bring two saws, but the next best thing.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on February 20, 2020, 07:53:29 PM
Wow this went back almost three pages we've been really good lately!!. I went to the mill for a few minutes of therapy today.  Have a Ponderosa log sitting ready for almost three weeks. It was minus 2 to start the day but by 5:00 it was all the way to 29, sunny not much wind. Had a few minutes  free so let's go start the log... This might belong in health and safety ......but just proved this.... if you leave an open package of n 95 dust masks on the ledge inside your mill shed, mice will get into the package and leave you presents on every single one of the five left in the package. Do I have mouse proof storage there......yep...... :-[  did I fail to use it ::).... For some reason I've heard they are a little bit hard to find right now... I still have a few but felt kinda dumb to waste the 5.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 20, 2020, 09:09:41 PM
Well, that sucks.  Hope it didnít keep you from starting the log.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 20, 2020, 09:48:39 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D
Yeah, don't leave anything in the mill shed that ain't steel or in some kind of non-cardboard box. My issue was always with the paper towels I kept for wiping out the coffee pot or cups. Had confetti all over the place. I thought it was just me and I never had the stones to mention it because I made the same mistake a few times. ;D >:(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on February 20, 2020, 10:34:19 PM
Oh no I was bad  :o and made three cuts with just my face shield thingy, the wind was good, otherwise I would've made myself go get one.  Got it pith centered and cut  on 3 5/8 slab. Got a start anyway.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on February 22, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
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It was a ďnear missĒ something dumb......caught it before it turned bad!

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on February 22, 2020, 08:44:26 PM
 :D This is a fun thread, I'm glad we can laugh at ourselves and carry on. I think of a couple of bonehead stunts I pulled and wonder why I am still here.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on February 22, 2020, 08:56:27 PM
 :D :D Yep, and if I donít laugh at myself, my wife and kids sure remind me that I should!  :D :D Iím old enough now I donít have anything to prove except that I still can....!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on February 22, 2020, 09:19:04 PM
Ted - isn't that the "Extended, manual, vertical backstop" mod that is used for turning really big cants?  Yea - that's it.. you just forgot to lower it is all... :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: woodnut on February 29, 2020, 11:06:28 PM
Hey firefighter on the side. I'll be getting a LT-55 soon and will feel better when I have those dumb hopefully minor mistakes. I just wondered when 1 tooth of the blade is gone could you snip 1 alternate tooth off  and use it for awhile longer?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on March 01, 2020, 06:48:31 AM
If just one tooth is gone, take a pair of vice grips and clamp it onto what's left of the missing tooth to make it line up with a raker!

The rest of the teeth will never miss it!  ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: woodnut on March 01, 2020, 08:51:49 PM
Thanks Chuck. Good to know. I hope I don't have to make to many rakers.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trimguy on March 29, 2020, 07:54:58 PM
 
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 I had a bad morning . A bowed log rolled when I set it on the mill and knocked it off the jacks. the pallet racking is to flimsy for this application .  Flimsy was good when it came time to fix it.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on March 30, 2020, 05:56:31 PM
 That looks really not good.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trimguy on March 30, 2020, 10:03:59 PM
It wasn't . I did get it almost back right , less than an 1/8 of an inch. Definitely looking to get some 1 1/2 by 6 tubing to build another one. More things get add to my list to do than are getting check off. I need another me. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on March 31, 2020, 09:27:01 AM
 :'(fiddle-smiley smiley_flowerhead   closest things  I could find  in the list for a get well/sympathy card for your mill. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trimguy on March 31, 2020, 12:29:46 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on March 31, 2020, 03:04:13 PM
I woke up at 3:30 this morning after a nightmare that the same thing happened to my mill. :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Outlaw on April 01, 2020, 01:25:06 PM
I knew it would be my turn sooner than later. Had the mill in the yard to do some maintenance.  After all the maintenance was done I had some logs to mill for my nephew. Pulling away from my garage I managed to hook the box of my company truck with the tee handle for the blade tension.  That handle on the TK's sticks out a little to far, that is until you bend it over dragging it down a truck bed.  Guess I better call the insurance guy ::)
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RichTired on April 01, 2020, 02:16:33 PM
No need  to worry Outlaw, it's a work truck.  
Knock out the dent smiley_smash 
Paint a little anchor seal over the scratch to keep it from rusting arteest-smiley
And keep on trucking   move_it 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 01, 2020, 10:27:34 PM
Ouch and double ouch.

Seems the dumbest thing Iíve done was to be a firefighter/emt right now. Happy to be home for a few days.  Woodworking and milling will keep me busy.  Maybe playing with the kids a little.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on April 01, 2020, 11:11:02 PM
 FYI
If you use tissue glue(super glue)  to close a couple cuts on the back of your hand let the glue dry completely before applying the bandaids.
Apparently  the glue likes the adhesive  in the bandaids really well.  ::)

Imagine a really mad 14 pound terrier mix......... This little dog does not want his blood drawn to re check his thyroid, no way, no how and he is way quicker then you.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on April 02, 2020, 01:15:52 PM
They seem to come in small groups.  The frequency is disturbing almost as much as the pain.  

I was turning around near a barn in our property where Iím cutting trees and clearing out the understory. Didnít remember the stump....
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Found it with the bumper.  

Then this morning I was building some bird feeders for the nursing home in Walnut Cove and managed to pierce my finger with a nail from my finish nailer.


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The offending nail
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 02, 2020, 03:47:56 PM
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) anything else?   :)  they usually come in threes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on April 02, 2020, 03:53:37 PM
Not yet and that bothers me a little.  :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on April 02, 2020, 05:54:26 PM
Rush home and get under the covers. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on April 02, 2020, 06:12:36 PM
 :D Never!  I try to take it like a man!  And write checks to cover the damage.... :laugh:
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on April 02, 2020, 08:33:45 PM
No good deed goes unpunished.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on April 02, 2020, 09:05:41 PM
Ugg.... Well, like they say the first scratch hurts the most.....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on April 03, 2020, 08:17:17 AM
Man, April is starting out with a bang and a bite!  Not cool.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Poquo on April 18, 2020, 12:34:10 PM
Finished a mobile job sawing big Red Oak logs , getting mill ready to tow its dark  I'm lowering the saw head down on the pin when I here Bang . In the dark I caught the outrigger with the blade . Blade broke , next day i'm checking everything on the mill . Found tensioner gauge broke and one bed rail needed adjusting .
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on April 18, 2020, 12:55:29 PM
I just have to ask, why was the blade still installed?

Keeping a blade installed and especially tensioned is not good for the life of the blade!

Just sayin'!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on April 18, 2020, 01:17:44 PM
I just have to ask, why was the blade still installed?

Keeping a blade installed and especially tensioned is not good for the life of the blade!

Just sayin'!
Does not do much to the tensioner seals either.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on April 18, 2020, 01:31:01 PM
guys, not like he's hijacking this thread or anything....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Poquo on April 18, 2020, 03:48:20 PM
I was tired after cutting all day to finish the job , it was dark and I was in a hurry to get home . Just forgot to take blade off before securing the head .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on April 18, 2020, 05:29:37 PM
guys, not like he's hijacking this thread or anything....
Nobody said he was!
Just asked a simple question, and he answered!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: tacks Y on April 18, 2020, 08:09:21 PM
So does WM recommend removing the blade after use or just to transport? I understand removing tension.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on April 18, 2020, 08:19:39 PM
Man oh man, this thread never ends :D. We just continue to find ways to hurt and embarass ourselves. I backed onto the parking pad and all of a sudden had that sinking feeling. Shoot! ::) Fortunately my buddy was not far away with a chain. I had a 4x4 post laying there doing nothing constructive so that is now pressed into service. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 18, 2020, 08:52:32 PM
So does WM recommend removing the blade after use or just to transport? I understand removing tension.
   After reading this I went back and reviewed my manual. I almost never transport mine with a blade on and I don't leave a blade on after sawing every day. One point I had read but forgotten was my manual says to engage the clutch to tighten the drive belt and help stabilize the motor during transport. I will be doing that in the future. I am not sure what it says about mills with autoclutch or if you can leave them engaged with the mill off. 

   I appreciate posts like this thread because it reminds me to re-check myself periodically.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Poquo on April 19, 2020, 06:33:56 AM
I wrote myself a note on the simple set cover so I don't forget to disengage the clutch before starting .When I first  brought the mill home , the first thing I did was start the motor without disengaging the clutch .
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 I mostly cut at home and remove the blade when I finish cutting.Now I need to write another note check blade .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on April 19, 2020, 07:31:46 AM
If you leave the blade installed when you're finished sawing, whether tensioned or not the inside of the band where it contacts the belts will stain/rust !
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Patrick NC on April 19, 2020, 05:57:05 PM
 
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Cant even think up a good excuse for this one 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 19, 2020, 06:51:38 PM
Oh yeah you can, you just need to think about it a bit.
 Here's mine,  did miss the clamp, barely, but I know I messed up the blade on the bottom side.

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For a change, it was on the very last cut of the day and the blade was ready for a change anyway.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Patrick NC on April 19, 2020, 07:41:32 PM
I wonder if I can blame it in the virus?😏
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on April 19, 2020, 07:52:49 PM
If you leave the blade installed when you're finished sawing, whether tensioned or not the inside of the band where it contacts the belts will stain/rust !
I never leave a blade on after sawing, even overnight.  There are too many good reasons to remove it; safety, mechanical, housekeeping, etc.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on April 19, 2020, 08:18:54 PM
I wonder if I can blame it in the virus?😏
Itís either Ronaviriitis OR That D4MN Murphy at work again!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Patrick NC on April 19, 2020, 08:30:04 PM
I wonder if I can blame it in the virus?😏
Itís either Ronaviriitis OR That D4MN Murphy at work again!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Patrick NC on April 19, 2020, 08:32:00 PM
I wonder if I can blame it in the virus?😏
Itís either Ronaviriitis OR That D4MN Murphy at work again!
There he goes again! Murphy's been following me around all weekend.  He even put sawdust in my fuel filter. 😉
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 29, 2020, 10:26:40 PM
I have always unfolded my bands that come wrapped in 3 loops, by tossing them in the air to land on the grass and spring open.  I decided last week that I could try to unwrap one, since I do a handled maneuver to fold them back up.  well it twisted in my hand, and I got one tooth into my palm.  not my first rodeo so I went on and got a little dirt in the blood which helped the clotting process.  so this week I had a stubborn blade that no matter how I tossed it, it stayed together.  so I got it twisted open, then let it go.  not injury but boy did it smoke and not cut well in the ERC I was working on.  yes I manually unwrapped it backward.  then had to invert it.  took me a few days to post it but now I feel good I have made many if not most of the mistakes that everyone else here has made.  my hand is healing up fine.  thanks!   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on April 29, 2020, 11:40:42 PM
Mine made a funny noise too when i did that. ::) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: frazman on April 30, 2020, 06:43:53 AM
Well, I can say that I haven't cut the metal back stop. Oops , I forgot I haven't even cut a log yet either...  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 30, 2020, 07:28:45 AM
I have always unfolded my bands that come wrapped in 3 loops, by tossing them in the air to land on the grass and spring open.  I decided last week that I could try to unwrap one, since I do a handled maneuver to fold them back up.  well it twisted in my hand, and I got one tooth into my palm.  .....   :) :) :)
doc doc doc! C'mon man! I thought you were better than the 'throw it on the grass type'. You're a craftsman after all. :D There was a video I saw here over the winter and it took me 40 minutes to find it, but go to this thread and watch the video in reply #43, this is a safe and fool proof way to handle blades, @Chuck White (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=7517) knows what he is doing.
 I used to throw blades on the floor in the shop (when I was 16-18 years old and afraid of them) and then on one of my first real machine shop jobs a toolmaker saw me do that and threw an oily rag at my head and started cursing in German. Then he gave me a lesson, such as is in this video and I never went back. Throwing blades can cause dulling and other issues, especially in a machine shop on a concrete floor. ;D
 Be careful. We need your hands in a functional condition with no new infection entry points.
 Knowledge is power.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on April 30, 2020, 07:35:10 AM
Thanks for the "tag" OGH!

I'll post that thread here, might save a few more injuries!

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,73467.40.html (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,73467.40.html)

Nothin' to it!  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 30, 2020, 07:49:22 AM
OH SHOOT! I spent 40 minutes looking for that video and then never put the link in the post. :D
 Well, I guess I did something dumb today too. Thanks for adding it, it just a good clean simple video on a basic skill that can get folks in trouble if they are not careful.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 30, 2020, 07:57:13 AM
thanks chuck.  I watched it a few times and ready to give it a try.  thanks OG.  good info.  heavy gloves and eye protection are prob.  not a bad idea!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on April 30, 2020, 10:32:52 AM
Doc is just using the dirt to build up his immunity from infections  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on April 30, 2020, 11:29:07 AM
The uncoiling process if done correctly should be no problem.  Itís when itís done wrong that you get hit on the forehead as the blade springs open and it cuts you!  I know a guy that happened to recently shortly after he started sharpening his own blades. ::)  I have to remind him to uncoil so the teeth are away from his body :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RichTired on April 30, 2020, 11:41:33 AM
I had one blade that was "inside out", but I noticed it as I was installing it.  So I turned it right side in before cutting any logs.  And as has been stated, throwing a blade on the ground is a good way to dull the blade and knock the set out.  
I uncoiled a blade this week and it slipped and I have three little tooth marks on my arm along with holes in one of my work shirts.  I am sure the blood will washout...  :) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 30, 2020, 08:24:09 PM
Iím so proud that you guys are keeping my thread alive.  I will always use a big patch of zoysia grass to uncoil my blades.  I get them started and and then let them go.  That grass is like 70s shag carpet.  The blades are very well padded.

My something dumb for the week was while putting a new rear bearing on my wifeís Subaru.  I set the parking brake to be safe while working on it, not thinking that that would make it almost impossible to get the rotor off.  I say almost impossible, because with enough prying and pulling and banging it will come off.  Luckily I didnít damage the brake and I got it all done and now the car doesnít make terrible noise.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on April 30, 2020, 08:39:18 PM
That is funny. I fought with the brakes to the point of exhaustion. Why didn't sumdumguy just cut the seized cable?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on April 30, 2020, 10:29:12 PM
Circle mill, them bandsaws sound dangerous :D

Well, I went out yesterday morning ahead of the rain to drop another tree along the driveway and get it to the mill. It was a leaner but I got it to lay over nice and miss critical infrastructure. I then limbed it up a good ways and began bucking it up. The butt log dropped down nice, I taped off the next 12'4" log and bucked it. as it dropped I had one of those gears a whirling ignoseconds but the mass was in motion. The driveway there is over 20% and it took off rolling. Nothing to do but watch. It looked like it was going to roll out fine onto a flat area but then about halfway down it scrubs the high side bank just enough to start a turn. Oh this isn't gonna be good, mamma is doing the dishes and she is gonna be pithed. Yup perfect strike, the well tile explodes, lid goes flying concrete tile smashed. Well might as well walk down and survey the scene of the tragedy. Amazingly the wellhead is undamaged, the concrete absorbed it all and chocked the log. The rest of the day was spent shuttling logs down and bringing old scrap chunks of I beams and even part of an old truck frame back up the hill. Modern battery drills are amazing. By the end of the day Rube Goldburg had bolted together a cage over the wellhead, there's still 6 or 8 trees in striking distance and leaning for the light ::). I suspect I'll remember to leave a limb or two on them.

I might bring some big honkin rocks up to surround it all just in case :D
And another honey do added to the list, replace the well tile. A few more free trees and I'll about dig my way to the top of this hole.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on April 30, 2020, 11:01:54 PM
That job sounds like trying to chew your first raw oyster.  You chew and it gets bigger and bigger and thereís nowhere to spit! :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on May 01, 2020, 05:36:53 PM
@SawyerTed (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=38503) yer just eatin the wrong kind of oyster.  ;) 
I was in the process of oyster harvest this morning and managed to whittle a little hide off of my finger. After this many years you woyld think I could make it through an entire spring with out doing that. It's not a huge booboo but I still feel dumb.  Had to stop and improvise a bandaid out of the truck..
I also. managed to send a log rolling down the hill last night with my wife watching up at the house.  I had it decked by the mill and decided it could go sit on the firewood pile as I had better ash logs  to saw before it so decided to pick it up with the pallet forks and unceremoniously  dump it.  I came in the house she said nothing til I was crawling into bed the she burst out laughing said it was pretty funny seeing  me chase the log with the tractor as it rolled slowaly down the slope. .. ::)...Thanks dear .... I guess it would make the qualification as a log... Meets the" logs roll" rule.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 01, 2020, 07:05:17 PM
@Don P (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17) ,

   That's funny (as long as it is someone else). :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 01, 2020, 07:20:42 PM
That job sounds like trying to chew your first raw oyster.  You chew and it gets bigger and bigger and thereís nowhere to spit! :D
  Which goes back to the age old question: "How drunk was the first guy to ever try to eat a raw oyster?" :-\

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on May 01, 2020, 07:44:00 PM
Or exactly how hungry did that first oyster eater have to be?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 01, 2020, 08:08:32 PM
Native Americans thrived on oysters and fresh water mussels as there were huge piles of shells called middens discovered by European Invaders.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on May 01, 2020, 11:51:16 PM
how ironic, the real invader was small pox.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ianab on May 02, 2020, 03:57:43 AM
Native Americans thrived on oysters and fresh water mussels as there were huge piles of shells called middens discovered by European Invaders.
As NZ has no native land mammals seafood and shellfish was a big thing for original polynesian Maori. They would harvest Paua (Abalone), Kina (a spikey sea urchin), various clams (pipi and toheroa) and kutai (mussels). Inland was tuna (eels) and koura (crawfish). Regular fish and birds where on the menu as well of course. 
Collectively they are called kaimoana. Kai (food) and Moana (Ocean). 
Like WDH says, archeologists are able to trace the history of old coastal villages by the piles of shells they created. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 04, 2020, 03:21:19 PM
Well, it was my turn today.  I went to town to buy a bunch of supplies for building my kiln shed.  I had 12 sheets of osb and about 70 2x4s on my trailer.  That stuff is so slippery against each other.  I made the turn onto the road that goes to my house and noticed a 2x4 in the mirror as I rounded a turn.  I pulled over to tie it down better and someone pulled in behind me to let me know that a bunch came off my trailer in the middle of the intersection.  Of course it took a while to get turned around on a little side street with my big trailer.  I called 911 to get the police to go make sure no one had an accident.  I was still on the phone with 911 when I got back to the intersection.  To my relief a state highway truck had come along and dragged it all to the side.  11 sheets of osb and a dozen 2x4s to be exact.  No damage to any of it.  I had that stuff tied down tight, but starting on that hill just was too much.  I got it all back loaded with the help of the highway worker and super strapped down and finally headed home.  As punishment for my stupidity I got stuck behind another highway truck spraying roadside weeds.  17 mph all the way home for 9 miles.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on May 04, 2020, 05:52:40 PM
I ain't saying nuthin but don't feel special :D
The funniest one of those I saw was a flatbed delivery truck loaded with 12' sheetrock and apparently very loosely strapped. He crossed a railroad grade and I saw the load go up, the truck continue forward and then the load slammed back down on the bed. About 2' of the entire stack snapped off and dropped to the road. The driver was oblivious. To have been a fly on the wall when he got to where he was going :D.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on May 04, 2020, 07:27:16 PM
That is why the local hardware store will not help secure a load, they don't want the liability. OSB is miserable stuff at the best of times.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 04, 2020, 07:32:28 PM
When I was unloading the trailer at home I stepped on the pile and took a ride.  Twisted my back trying to not fall.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on May 04, 2020, 08:09:01 PM
That store bought stuff is out to get you.
Hardware store I work at, we can not help secure the load either.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 05, 2020, 01:29:46 PM
That store bought stuff is out to get you.
Hardware store I work at, we can not help secure the load either.
As much as Iíd like to be using more from my mill to build this, 2x4s are so easy to buy.  Plus, I buy from a little family owned lumber yard.  They all know my name in there and I buy on account.  My dad worked there over 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on May 05, 2020, 09:38:11 PM
Glad you and all others are ok and no issues.  That would cause quite the adrenalin rush!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 06, 2020, 06:16:02 AM
I started sawing yesterday and my lube mizer had nothing coming out of it.  I had cleaned out the 3psi check valve day before, so was looking forward to first rate operation.  

I figured the pump was empty and maybe blew a fuse.  

So told customer might be a few minutes while I figured it out.

Checked that the inline filter was full.  Tried to run again not working.  Checked fuses in fuse box.  Lost one somewhere in there and got another one from truck.  Still no go.

Starting to worry, was cutting dry cedar poles and lube is helpful keeping blade cool so didnt want to wing it.

Then I turned on the Lubemizer on my console.  This made a huge difference and fixed the problem.  Maybe only 5 minutes down, customer was impressed how well I knew my machine.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on May 06, 2020, 12:44:13 PM
 :D :D That is funny.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 06, 2020, 07:32:12 PM
Itís like looking everywhere for the glasses that are on top of your head.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on May 06, 2020, 08:34:25 PM
Don't forget the tape measure you put in a "safe place"
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 07, 2020, 07:48:20 AM
I have only hit my log stops once.  you can see the line on it from years ago.  this time I only polished it on top.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51041/8A10B881-3B6A-4ABC-8BF8-D7ECB398196C.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1588852037)
 

need to get some Timber King blood red paint!   ;) :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on May 07, 2020, 03:10:32 PM
You have to be good to just polish the top.  8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 07, 2020, 05:42:16 PM
I polished the top of one of my clamps just like that.  Trouble was it did just as much damage to the blade as cutting into it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 07, 2020, 07:55:17 PM
i stopped and backed out.  i sure was not going to hit the next three log stops set at the same ht. and I assume i lost the set that was oriented down and the blade was sure to start going up.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 13, 2020, 09:47:47 AM
I went and picked up a few cedar logs from a friend this morning after work.  I got the logs on the trailer with no problem, but when I tried to move one forward my feet slipped on the wet trailer(itís raining) and my face went right into the log.  I hit the log hard and was seeing stars for a moment.  The bridge of my nose has a small laceration and a few other scratches.  That was not fun.  Of course I had to strap the logs down with blood dripping from my nose.  Drove home wiping blood off my nose with a napkin.  Wife had to leave for work, but she put a couple steri strips on me before she left.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36921/F7C1C529-08C4-4B22-9D7C-FB617453DAA4.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1589377654)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 13, 2020, 10:03:31 AM
at least you did not break your glasses.  I am sure the log is ok, and if ERC should blend in fine (blood) .  glad you were not seriously hurt (life threatening).  I know that hurts.  if I stumble going up stairs I get a slight sense or smell of blood.  prob. PTSD from the times I did stuff like that.   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 13, 2020, 10:27:46 AM
Lol.  The glasses are readers that I put on to be able to see the phone while I took a selfie.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 13, 2020, 12:17:06 PM
Ouch
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 13, 2020, 08:32:31 PM
That is a pretty good whack.  I always heard that if you are going to do something, you may as well do it right :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on May 13, 2020, 08:35:56 PM
Oww!  Glad you are ok..
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 13, 2020, 08:47:01 PM
That is a pretty good whack.  I always heard that if you are going to do something, you may as well do it right :).
Thanks Danny.  Iím happy you think I did it right.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Wintergreen Mountain on May 13, 2020, 08:54:25 PM
   WOA!
   When I saw firefighterontheside as last post, I was afraid you Done Something Dum Again already.

  Good to see you Didn't
  Stay safe!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on May 13, 2020, 09:08:18 PM
Ever walk into the door of a cap on a truck? I have a small truck, Colorado. That DanG cap door comes just right. I won't bother to tell you all this is the second time. The first time, many months ago was not all that bad. I made up for it this time.  ;) That corner is sharp.
Forgot to say, that corner bites into my forehead.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on May 13, 2020, 10:24:21 PM
I am glad to learn I'm not the only one to do that. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on May 14, 2020, 08:07:35 AM
Unfortunately this thread will never end. Who knows maybe someone will learn something from this. 

Probably not me though!!  electricuted-smiley thumbs-up
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on May 14, 2020, 09:12:44 AM
Ouch! Man hitting your nose like that can sure make your eyes water!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 14, 2020, 09:55:52 AM
I sure hope I will be more careful on the wet trailer boards,but yeah, I will continue to do dumb things.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 14, 2020, 11:43:14 AM
Was hooking up the gooseneck to my 1 ton about 10 years ago.  my son who was about 9 gave directions as I backed under.  It was close so we lowered it to see if would center itself.  told my son who weighed about 60 pounds to grab the front of the trailer and shake it to help it over.  we were back in trees and it was a little muddy.  it did not move.  He was in the bed.  so I jumped up to the far left side of the bumper and with both hands on the tongue of the trailer, gave it a hard shake, as my son had already done the softer version and it did not move.  trailer still did not move, but instantly push my feet off the bumper and my left rib cage landed full force on the side of the bed.  I could barely breath or walk, and of course my son smiles a little.  I told him not to smile as I made my way to the open drivers door to lay my top half in the seat and catch my breath.  when you break bones in a circle, they usually break in two places.  I had pain in the front and back of my left rib cage for about 6 weeks.  pretty sure in other word I broke ribs.  I survived.  no x-ray as the treatment is the same.  grin and bear it.  unless sob, then need to r/o a collapsed lung.  good lesson.  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 14, 2020, 12:03:50 PM
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) ,

   Your tale with your son reminds me when we were leaving Jacksonville NC after I got out of the USMC. I had sold my house and moved into a rental till things stabilized (If that is the correct term for it for moving here). I was moving furniture in my right new pick up with a camper shell on the back and had it loaded to much I could not see out the back so I told my son who was about 11 y/o to watch for traffic as I backed out of the drive. I had the passenger window down so I could see and talk to him. I slowly backed up and kept asking "Is anybody coming?" He kept telling me "Nope" Finally I came to an abrupt stop with a loud crunch. I got out and found I had backed into the new owners Scout parked at the curb with it's heavy duty bumper which was just high enough to ride over the top of mine and hit the corner of my truck between the bumper and the light. I looked at Sean and told him "I thought you said there was nothing coming." Sean has never been one to be at a loss of words and immediately replied "It wasn't coming. It was parked."
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawwood on May 14, 2020, 12:15:54 PM
Yesterday i was at the sawmill cutting up a maple log for a customer. Need to go back to the shop

 to fill the water jug. I forgot to raise to garage door up and it was just at head high. Dum me I as

looking down at my cell phone and ran right into it. Knock me down on the drive was and bruised my

Hand. Next time i will remember to raise it up all the way.

Sawwood
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: VooDooChikin04 on May 14, 2020, 12:37:26 PM
I was at a residential home loading up some logs from a fallen tree about 2 years ago.  The heaviest one had me slip right as I was at the back of the trailer, fell down and about broke my teeth out on the back corner side rail.  Luckily I came away with only some hefty scratches!


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/60036/Screenshot_2019-04-24-18-58-19~2_copy.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1589474228)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on May 14, 2020, 12:52:33 PM
Yep,
Pushing a wheel-barrel over loaded with firewood to OWB during spring thaw, picked up good head of steam before front wheel sunk in mud, feet kicked out and face plant into back of wheel-barrel (maybe a log, my eyes closed by that point), still going down with hands on the handles, next face plant into mud, and entire load of firewood dumped ontop of my back and head as barrel flipped backwards.   Little slow getting up from that one, sorry/thankful no pictures or video, but busted right between the eyes like FF-ontheside.

       JJ
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 14, 2020, 01:02:57 PM
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) sounds like something my 9 year old Sean would do if I trusted him at all to help me back up.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on May 14, 2020, 02:30:11 PM
we are all either lucky to still be alive, or tough as nails,  I guess I will go with both! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on May 14, 2020, 02:38:42 PM
sounds like something my 9 year old Sean would do if I trusted him at all to help me back up.


Sounds like you are learning already. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 14, 2020, 03:17:09 PM
Something about reading this thread during lunch brought me bad luck this afternoon when I fell not once,but twice with a very heavy load. Could have got bad hurt both times. One injury to my cocyx and the other to my shin. I was lucky.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/IMG_20200514_151206226_HDR.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1589483636)

Here's a photo of one, I haven't seen the other myself yet but they both smart right well. I won't be posting a photo of that one in any event, don't want to give MM any competition.

Edit 2 hours later: that tail bone pain is not letting up and it hurts to sit. Then shin only hurts when it gets touched. Glad tomorrow is a lighter day with a run up to harbor freight an hour away. Hope I can tolerate sitting in the truck that long.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on May 14, 2020, 03:24:43 PM
Some of us are real creative when it comes time to hurt ourselves. ;D We were unloading concrete guardrails with a picker, I reached up to stop one from spinning just as buddy swung the boom. I was on the offside where he couldn't see me. That load caught me in the coconut and parked me on my butt. Good thing I was wearing a hardhat but it still rung my bell.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on May 27, 2020, 11:12:54 PM
Nothing sawmill or tree or lumber related here just my glamorous job....
So today was crazy busy no real reason for it except the weather was better I guess. It's been drizzly wet a few days, we needed the moisture. I had a bunch of cattle work after dinner and wasn't really presentable afterwards and we had some small animal appointments late afternoon so I changed out my dirty scrub top that has a zippered pocket to a plain one. Well things are going back and forth techs taking pets outside, sending aimals home taking in appointments etc. Well one dog I had to sedate and it  barfed in the surgery room while the sedative was starting to work.  (ma'am has your dog eaten today.....)   it happens with this product some times, no big deal.  Move the dog to the exam room, the tech goes out to do something else, I retrieve  stuff to clean it up and just as I bend over to start, I realize I just changed shirts.
Now....No longer is my cellphone contained by a zipper pocket. It is of course ahead of me along with its pocket buddy the ink pen, they have sensed their new found freedom and are hurtling out of my pocket at lightspeed. My hand flails up grasping a now empty shirt pocket, and  clinically inappropriate words issue from my lips as in slow motion my phone belly flops into a pile of fancy gourmet dog barf, his buddy the ink pen only lands half way in/out.. :-[ So from the office across the hallway I hear Doctor H's voice  "what's going on in there Doc?".....My reply ...cell phone fell out of my pocket into fancy  dog vomit.....pause ...laughter from across the hall.  receptionist  down the hallway "what was that, your phone fell in what??"
Me "dog barf" ....more laughter. At lest my tech said thank you for cleaning up after laughing. My wife even laughed at me. Glad I've got a good phone  case.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on May 28, 2020, 07:37:32 AM
I hate it when that happens. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 28, 2020, 08:02:05 AM
Those darn phones do like to escape with new found freedom.  Sometimes, as you found out, they land in fancy dog barf.  You would think they would learn a lesson, but they donít.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on May 28, 2020, 08:18:25 AM
Well at least it didn't commit harikari upon landing, there was a bright side. A couple others weren't so lucky wh e n they lept to freedom.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 28, 2020, 09:06:56 AM
   Your tale reminds me of the time I stopped at our local Vet's office and he was cussing a blue streak and scrubbing all the walls. Seems the previous patient was a monkey with diarrhea. whiteflag_smiley smiley_horserider headscratch running-doggy steve_smiley
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on May 28, 2020, 09:39:49 AM
My dad always carried a transistor radio in his shirt pocket.  He wrapped a couple of rubber bands around it to keep it from sliding out when he'd bend over.

Thanks for the chuckle this morning.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rodman on May 28, 2020, 09:41:21 AM
Nebraska at least you got yours back. I went to marina to take boat to the lake property. Always put my phone inside boat before I did anything. This time I was in a hurry to meet someone out there. Started untying boat splosh, there goes my new ( 2 month old ) sonim xp8 phone 50' down to the bottom. They are waterproof for 30 minutes. But for some reason I couldn't find a diver hanging around the marina that day to retrieve it lol. Costly mistakes $700 to replace.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on May 28, 2020, 11:12:23 AM
Your phone story reminded me of a couple summers ago, I was adding oil to the hydraulic reservoir on my old combine. Bent over pouring oil up on the platform when my phone took a dive out of my pocket.  Right on the ground and broke the screen in 2 places.  Worked for a while before wiping out my contact list.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on May 28, 2020, 11:49:53 AM
 Your tale reminds me of the time I stopped at our local Vet's office and he was cussing a blue streak and scrubbing all the walls. Seems the previous patient was a monkey with diarrhea.


Did you go twice that day? :D

Just kidding
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on May 28, 2020, 02:54:32 PM
Monkey with diarrhea,  oh heaven help me, :o I have three I loosely care for in the practice (along with much deference to a well experienced veterinarian  around Kansas City).  They are a very quick, athletic beyond belief, two year old, un potty trained toddler who will never grow up. Buyer beware....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on May 30, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
And a monkey is not nearly as cute as a grandkid.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on May 30, 2020, 10:10:45 PM
My turn.  Splitting firewood yesterday had one last piece  biger than the rest.  Rather than tilt the splitter i lifted it up well almost just before i got it on the splitter my hand slipped.  Landed on my big toe.  Now my foot that has the heel that is getting better has a black  big toe. No pic I cant match magicman with gore.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 31, 2020, 07:30:48 AM
Ouch.  Makes a good case for steel toes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on May 31, 2020, 07:32:52 AM
Ever notice when we try to save a minute it cost many more minutes?  ??? 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on May 31, 2020, 11:58:26 AM
Oh ouch, I hope that toe heals without residual damage....Nothing like lifetime reminders of the sins of your youth.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 31, 2020, 05:46:06 PM
It turns out my Samsung phone has a pretty good waterproof rating.  I found that out after I fished it out of my pond.  I was taking my goats out to a fenced area for them to graze for the day.  I noticed something splash into the pond and figured it was a frog jumping in.  Later I couldnít find my phone so I called it, but I never heard it.  I started retracing my steps and thought, ďI wonder if that splash was my phone.Ē  Sure enough, I found my phone submerged right under the surface.  It had been in there maybe 10 minutes.  Itís working as if no harm had come to it.  Still, Iíve got a fan blowing on it.  My wife looked it up and itís supposed to be water resistant for 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: goose63 on May 31, 2020, 06:11:19 PM
Put the forks back on went to dumo some scrap on the fire ( note to self ) lock the forks in be for you dump stuff on fire  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on May 31, 2020, 07:58:20 PM
OOOOPS!! :D How come we too soon old and too late schmart?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 03, 2020, 04:46:43 PM
Caution, the following post contains photos rated at about 6 on the Magicman grossness scale(tm). ;D

Te dumb thing I did toady was not burning my finger as I has done last week while cooking breakfast last week.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/IMG_20200526_113932323.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1591216741)
 

 Nope, not that. Nor was it that I was working with the newly exposed fresh skin uncovered.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/IMG_20200530_122710064~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1591216761)
 

Nope not that either. Neither of these were created through my lack of thinking or dumbness (well maybe just a tad). The dumb thing I did today was managing, while pruning just one single pine branch that was in my way, with a pruning saw to land said saw in the middle of all that new very tender skin.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/IMG_20200603_145857904.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1591216771)
 

 Stung just a little. Now I have a scab in the middle of a healing blister.
 I do note that this thread is on it's 15th page. SO I am not alone, just sayin'  ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 03, 2020, 04:54:55 PM
sorry I should have mentioned that too.  so...  addendum:  "leave it open and exposed to air at night, and do not cut it open with a saw!"   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 03, 2020, 05:47:15 PM
NOW you tell me? smiley_furious say_what smiley_tom_dizzy01
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on June 03, 2020, 06:24:07 PM
At this point, you might ensure that it's sterile, by rinsing it really well with alcohol!  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 03, 2020, 07:19:28 PM
Gee thanks Chuck, great idea! I'll let you know how it goes...than again, maybe you will hear directly, you're not that far away. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 03, 2020, 10:09:18 PM
That burn looked bad enough.  You just had to add insult to injury!  Isnít that always the way.  If youíre injured, you can always manage to hit that exact spot again.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on June 03, 2020, 10:17:13 PM
Murphy is a cruel SOB!  He enforces laws on those with greatest likelihood of pain!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on June 03, 2020, 10:18:56 PM
Glad it was  after supper, when I saw that post. Of all the spots to hit...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 03, 2020, 10:41:28 PM
@Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) is now off the hook and I can take his spot. ::) ::) ::) :(

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38064/IMG_2006.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1591235931)
 This was a right new glove.

   I've always said my WM is safer than a tablesaw and I can prove that now.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38064/IMG_2007.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1591237402)
 I was cutting the corner off a bench leg on my tablesaw set at a 45 degree angle. Made the first cut and the cut off piece was on the table and I reached for it. I don't know if it hit the blade and snatched my hand into the running saw or I just dumbly stuck it into the blade. That stopped all forward progress for the day!

   To the house, called wife up to go to the ER 8 miles away. Got there with my hand wrapped in paper towels, through the C-19 check and got checked in. About 90 minutes later with 10 stitches in the ring and middle finger and a fingernail on my index finger headed to the great manicure shop in the sky, a tetanus booster, an antibiotic shot and an 800 mg Motrin and I was done. We got to the pharmacy just before they closed and got 5 days worth of antibiotics and a special sleeve to keep the fingers dry. I considered trying 3 condoms over them but decided the gauze on the bottom would wick up the water. They X-rayed for foreign object and to confirm no broken bones. Deep but did not get quite get to the bone.

   The doctor on call tonight was a lady doctor from Sudan. She was very pleasant with a good bedside manner and we did some refresher Arabic I thought I'd forgotten and she was not expecting to hear in a rural WV community. I am very well pleased with her performance at this point.

   I'll see my regular doctor/PA on Friday for a check up to make sure no infection and get it re-dressed. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 03, 2020, 11:00:25 PM
Ah man! I am so sick to see that. So very sorry that happened to you. That just sucks. Glad you kept your fingers.
 My son saw me running the table saw a couple of months ago and chastised me for pulling out those little strips. He was pretty firm with me, he said "my teacher taught me to NEVER do that, and my teacher was RIGHT." It's rare for him to 'correct me', but he knew I don't argue with someone when they are right.
 I am more careful now. He WAS right. Of course you know this too. Just really sorry it happened to you. That will take a while to heal. Keep it clean and dry (I know you know this too. FF translation: Don't put them fingers back to work before they are ready.
 Funny, but when I looked at your octagonal leg I thought "hey, that looks nice, but it must be a pain to cut on a table saw." I just never expected it to be THAT much pain. Rest up and heal up. 
 Oh and thanks for taking my spot on this thread. Sorry you gave up so much to do that.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 03, 2020, 11:26:43 PM
Well that's just great!  I bet you still cannot play the piano!   :)  glad you are gonna be ok, FF translation, it could have been worse!  best wishes for a speedy recovery!  Doc.  Just be sure when they are almost healed, not to cut them in the same spot with another saw!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on June 03, 2020, 11:31:32 PM
I hope you have a speedy recovery 👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on June 04, 2020, 12:07:50 AM
WV, you showed a picture of a tore up glove.  Were you wearing that while using the saw? :-X

I was always taught that you NEVER wear gloves around rotating equipment.  Too easy to get snagged and pulled into it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on June 04, 2020, 06:16:57 AM
That is not good!!!  :(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on June 04, 2020, 07:16:23 AM
Da glove man, da glove.  Can it be saved?  Stitches, transplant ??  Ya gotta do something to save da glove.  :o

Oh and about da fingers, they will heal kinda OK and the pain will go away as soon as it quits hurting.  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on June 04, 2020, 07:34:23 AM
I had a jointer grab my glove on my left hand last year.  Pulled my hand into the cutterhead.  I should not have been wearing gloves.  If the cutterhead had not grabbed the loose finger part of the glove, I would not have lost the end of my finger ::). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on June 04, 2020, 08:49:44 AM
As odd as it sounds I think you are very lucky, could have been way worse. Take care!

Table saws scare the heck out of me but I still use one so I try to be extra careful.

What I try to follow:
No gloves, loose clothing etc.
No reaching over a spinning blade (I start and stop the blade a lot).
Stand to one side to avoid kick back.
Use push stick.
Clear tripping hazards.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on June 04, 2020, 08:51:54 AM
OH Man!  Not good. Sorry to read this Howard.  When I saw the glove I was expectibg a lot worse result.  Sorry for your injury.  Heal quick!   
You are gonna be wanting to do stuff, but don push it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 04, 2020, 08:52:50 AM
 Lynn,

  The glove probably can't be saved. :( Another HF $1.89 down the drain. ::) Yes I was wearing it at the time and yes it may have been a contributing factor. Unfortunately lately I have had some sort of fungus or such on both hands and if I am not careful and let them dry out they crack at the seams so bad they bleed so keeping plenty of lotion on them and wearing gloves has allowed me to function. I guess that will be a topic of discussion with the doctor's follow up visit tomorrow (That just changed to today) and we will see. So you are saying it will feel good when it quits hurting - that is good to know. ???

OGH,

   The octagon legs really are easy to make just watch those cutoff pieces. BTW - I am ready to hand off the goat spot to anybody else who is willing to take it. Of course if my wife ever figures out how to send the pre-stitches photo off her phone nobody else may want the spot.

Doc,

   Now you've got me really upset 'cause the doctor told me I'd be playing the piano by the end of the month and I told her that was great because I never could play it before. :D I was surprised to find a Muslim lady doc from Sudan because of the politics with that country. Just goes to show there are great people everywhere if we can just get past the politics.

H366 - you are spot on. Any of those suggestions would have prevented this.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on June 04, 2020, 09:02:26 AM
I try and avoid painful experiences, therefor I have no intention of competing with you fellows.
Hope your pains go away soon.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on June 04, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
WV Sawmiller
My dad lost a finger tip in similar fashion when he was in his early 70's. Just because you can't see the tip of a running table saw blade, it's still there.

ps In my travels(much less than yours unfortunately) around planet earth I have been lucky enough to meet good decent people everywhere. Locations change, people don't.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 04, 2020, 09:30:10 AM
Lynn,

... Unfortunately lately I have had some sort of fungus or such on both hands and if I am not careful and let them dry out they crack at the seams so bad they bleed so keeping plenty of lotion on them and wearing gloves has allowed me to function. I guess that will be a topic of discussion with the doctor's follow up visit tomorrow (That just changed to today) and we will see. So you are saying it will feel good when it quits hurting - that is good to know. ???

OGH,

   ...  BTW - I am ready to hand off the goat spot to anybody else who is willing to take it. Of course if my wife ever figures out how to send the pre-stitches photo off her phone nobody else may want the spot.

Howard, regarding that skin condition, over the years I have had something similar particularly in miserable winters when I am working a lot in the weather). Are you familiar with Bag Balm? It is a paste/lotion used on a cows udder to keep the skin healthy and has some ingredients that help fight infection and cracking. When things get bad, that is my go-to. Available in most farm supply stores. 
 Regarding somebody taking up the spot of last in the list...Nobody wants that, but SOMEBODY has to do it, just not intentionally.
 Sorry about your glove, maybe you can get a grant from the government to help overcome the financial impact? I have been using those mechanics type gloves in the shop. They fit tighter and allow more dexterity. I buy them in the fall when HD has them in a big barrel, 3 pairs for $17 or so. Those 3 used to last a year, now they last about 8 months. They are snug and not too hot and help me eliminate a lot of little cuts. Of course I did not have them on yesterday when I cut myself because I did not want to get sap on them. :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: DWyatt on June 04, 2020, 09:39:28 AM
Oh and about da fingers, they will heal kinda OK and the pain will go away as soon as it quits hurting. 


This reminds me of my Gramps. Whenever someone would hurt themselves, he would smile and say, "You know, the good thing is that it'll feel better when it quits hurting."
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on June 04, 2020, 09:54:10 AM
Oww. Glad it wasn't worse!
I'll just pipe up to say, tight fitting or not, no gloves around spinning machines. You can pull out if it gets skin, cloth can suck you in.

Corn Huskers lotion is another one we used tree planting, not as greasy as bag balm. Pine tar soaps and salves have some magical properties from the resin as well.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 04, 2020, 10:20:17 AM
  Okay, because of all the concern about the glove I went back and cut the fingers off the other one and my wife is sewing them on right now so we may be able to save it after all. (Not so sure what to do about the other one now - maybe it fits in with a new fashion trend.)

   I am familiar with bag balm and think I have heard of the corn huskers lotion so depending on what my PA gives me today I may pick up some BB and CHL on my next trip to TSC. (They are in the same lot with HF where I need to go for the gloves ::).) I was going to the doctor tomorrow but when we called for an appointment she said come today - I think she is off tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rhodemont on June 04, 2020, 10:33:08 AM
Ouch!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on June 04, 2020, 10:41:06 AM
At this point, you might ensure that it's sterile, by rinsing it really well with alcohol!  ;D
As long as you're rinsing it with alcohol, you might as well set it on fire too, to sterilize it.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on June 04, 2020, 10:47:16 AM
I was cutting the corner off a bench leg on my tablesaw set at a 45 degree angle. Made the first cut and the cut off piece was on the table and I reached for it. I don't know if it hit the blade and snatched my hand into the running saw or I just dumbly stuck it into the blade. That stopped all forward progress for the day!


Man, I hurt just looking at the photos!  However, I know hindsight is alway 20/20, would it have been better to maybe use a compound miter saw instead of a table saw to cut the table legs?  A lot more stability and easier to keep the hands at a safe distance.  Just a thought.

I hope you heal fast and I hope there's a warranty on the gloves. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on June 04, 2020, 10:52:20 AM
Guess you won't be playing the guitar anytime soon either. I felt my stomach churn looking at that, I remember the pain when I took the tip of a finger off in a table saw almost 50 years ago. I have used one since but am almost too cautious now.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on June 04, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
Oh and about da fingers, they will heal kinda OK and the pain will go away as soon as it quits hurting.  


This reminds me of my Gramps. Whenever someone would hurt themselves, he would smile and say, "You know, the good thing is that it'll feel better when it quits hurting."
That reminds me of a mechanic I worked with back in the 70's when I was a diesel mechanic in Montana.  The guy was in his 60's and had no right thumb.  He would tell the story that when he was 10 years old, he would help his Pa with sawing logs in their sawmill (one of those big circular saws run with a big flat belt to their steam tractor).  He was pushing a log through and got distracted and it sawed his thumb right down the middle.  Needless to say in his day they were 30 miles from the nearest town and even further from a hospital so his Ma did the only thing she could do.  She cut off the thumb save for a flap of skin and sewed it on over the wound.  It healed fine.  That was always a cringe inducing story to me.  
Glad you still have all your fingers.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 04, 2020, 11:15:34 AM
  The story continues - the ER nurse just called back and said they checked the X-rays and all said all the cut fingers have several fractures so she is setting me up with an ortho doc tomorrow. She said everything seems to be intact and I can't see what he will do other than maybe splint it to stabilize it a few weeks as needed. Do they make special epoxy for this? I guess as long as they don't want to do a river table I should be okay.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on June 04, 2020, 11:19:04 AM
 The story continues - the ER nurse just called back and said they checked the X-rays and all said all the cut fingers have several fractures so she is setting me up with an ortho doc tomorrow. She said everything seems to be intact and I can't see what he will do other than maybe splint it to stabilize it a few weeks as needed. Do they make special epoxy for this? I guess as long as they don't want to do a river table I should be okay.
Speaking of epoxy, don't let them do this with your hand!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16yIdoa48UI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16yIdoa48UI)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RichTired on June 04, 2020, 11:38:04 AM
WV Sawmiller,  This past school year (before closing due to the virus) I was a substitute teacher for a local high school.  One of the classes I subbed is the modern version of the shop class, now Construction Technology, which teaches the students the use of hand and power tools. One of the main points is always safety.  
So the topic of when and when not to wear gloves while working in the shop is covered for each and every application.  They have a Stop Saw in their shop and we have demonstrated its safety on a hot dog, but we have yet to see it work on a real finger.  And I hope that never happens, but it is nice to know it would work to keep the student (and teachers) safe. 

I hope all works out well for your fingers.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on June 04, 2020, 11:43:36 AM
WV Sawmiller,  This past school year (before closing due to the virus) I was a substitute teacher for a local high school.  One of the classes I subbed is the modern version of the shop class, now Construction Technology, which teaches the students the use of hand and power tools. One of the main points is always safety.  
So the topic of when and when not to wear gloves while working in the shop is covered for each and every application.  They have a Stop Saw in their shop and we have demonstrated its safety on a hot dog, but we have yet to see it work on a real finger.  And I hope that never happens, but it is nice to know it would work to keep the student (and teachers) safe.

I hope all works out well for your fingers.
I saw a video a while back where the owner of the Saw Stop company actually stuck his finger into the running saw with the stop technology.  Just a slight nick and no blood albeit he did it very slowly and not like pushing a board through.  Pretty awesome demonstration.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rodman on June 04, 2020, 11:48:15 AM
Wow  :o I'd say you were pretty lucky. Hoping you have a speedy recovery. So we can keep up to your daily doings. Play Safe
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on June 04, 2020, 11:50:39 AM
I was just going to mention the SawStop table saw, their demonstration uses a hot dog to simulate a finger. The website says the blade carries any electric signal, and as soon as it makes contact with the body, an aluminum brake stops the blade in 5 milliseconds, and shuts off the power to the motor. I hope everything heals up good WV.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on June 04, 2020, 03:43:08 PM
Howard, I hate that you got your fingers tangled up in the table saw.  The table saw is the heart of the woodworking shop but it will bite even the most experienced if given the chance - it has no loyalty to its operator and may even have some contempt.  I hope your fingers heal quickly and completely.

During the dry, winter months my hands get dry, crack and sometimes bleed (especially when I used to work quite a bit with fiberglass and cleaned resin off of my hands using acetone -stoopid, I know).  The bag balm, as greasy as it is, makes my hands feel better.  I have heard some folks pee on their feet to help with the fungus.  I am not sure how appropriate that would be for the fungus on your hands but...

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 04, 2020, 04:47:12 PM
Oh man!  You know I did not create this thread for you guys to outdo me.
When I saw that glove, I was surprised to see gauze in the shape of 5 normal length fingers.  Glad it was not worse.  I was told not use gloves years ago, but I used to.  Iíve not had a real injury on the TS other than hit in the gut with a small piece.  Still, 2 years ago I invested in a sawstop to prevent what seemed would be inevitable at some point.  Iím glad I bought before I became afraid of the saw.  The great thing is that itís an awesome tablesaw with 3hp.  I accidentally tested the safety system with my miter gauge and not my fingers.  The good news is that it fired just as promised.  The bad news it cost me almost $300 for a new cartridge and new dado blade set.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on June 05, 2020, 07:10:19 AM
I have the contractor saw version of the sawstop for some reason ::). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 05, 2020, 07:59:56 AM
If you want to upgrade, you can get close to new price when selling your current saw.  Sawstops are not on the resale market much.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on June 05, 2020, 10:27:51 AM
Howard, Iíve been working on a honey-do list the last few days and didnít see this until this morning.  I hate that happened and hope you heal quickly and as completely as possible.

That glove gave me a sinking feeling and several horrible images (significantly more horrible than reality) ran through my mind. So glad it wasnít worse.

As a retired voc. ed. guy three machines worried me the most - table saws, jointers and radial saws.  Lathes werenít heavily used but were also worrisome for the danger they present.  Fortunately, the worst student injury in my shop I ever had to deal with was a cut from a utility knife that required four or five stitches.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on June 05, 2020, 10:36:52 AM
My dad was alsso a high school shop teacher and very strict about safety around power tools. He did wing himself once with the jointer fortunately not in front of the class. One faux pas I do remember was his personal radial arm saw, the brake on the motor failed. He couldn't get replacement parts so he left it off. I wasn't allowed to use the tool.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 05, 2020, 05:19:04 PM
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38064/IMG_2009.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1591390954)
 Anybody want to play Rock, Paper or Scissors?

   I went to the ortho doc today and this was the result X 2 weeks when I go back and he will likely put me in a full body cast with my luck. ::) 

(Which reminds me of an old USMC family/wife friend who was looking at old family pictures and found one of her dad, a USAF pilot, in a full body cast when he was on active duty. Evidently he was in the cast for nearly a year after a flying accident. All was fine till the lady got to computing the time of the accident and recovery in the body cast then compared it to her birth date. Huummm. Seems there is a lot more you can do in a body cast than most people think. ;))

   Doc today confirmed I had several fractures (Cracks?) in the index and second finger. The index finger has no stitches but will finish losing the nail soon. Next finger has 6 stitches and a nail going bye-bye. The ring finger has 5 stitches but no fractures. I think the cast and ace bandage is mostly to keep me from using and bumping the fingers. No individual splints on the fingers.

   Stitches out a week from today is current plan. I don't know what the ortho doc is looking for a week after that. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 05, 2020, 06:04:00 PM
A man, I just hate to see this. I hope you aren't hurting too much. It will be a while before anyone calls you 'lefty', I hope that is your off hand.
 That little filtch must have grabbed you more than you first indicated or knew, you got sucked in good.
 All you can do is rest up for a bit Howard. This is one of those deals where you have little choice. Either that, or a body cast, just to be safe. Be thankful they didn't do a head x-ray.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 05, 2020, 06:19:52 PM
OGH,

   Actually it is a little uncomfortable but really not painful to speak of. Whether it was shock or something else even the initial pain was not that bad. The ER doc had to give a couple more shots lower on the fingers when stitching but it was almost more of a big bruise than anything else. The fiberglass cast or form under my hand and the ace bandage seems like overkill but probably for the best.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 05, 2020, 07:21:49 PM
Dang!  Adrenaline is a good painkiller.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 05, 2020, 07:41:29 PM
Well, rest up and take it easy for a few days.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 05, 2020, 07:57:42 PM
   Adrenaline may have kicked in initially but I assure you it is not exciting now. A normal aspirin would pretty much be adequate now.

    I did take the 4 - 8' long poplar 4X4's I had in stock with me today and dropped them off at a customer who sells primitive crafts and such. Her husband wanted them for farm table legs. Not a big sale but paid for lunch at DQ while we were there. Kind of like peeing in the ocean during a drought - every little bit helps. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 07, 2020, 04:20:51 PM
   One suggestion I will make for any budding high school shop teachers or supervisors of people working with woodworking or metal working power tools like RAS, table saws, joiners, metal shears, etc is to have your students/employees/co-workers fasten a cardboard tube over their arm from elbow to fingertip and let them wear it an hour or two as an eye opener. Let them try to button their shirt, zip their fly, put on a coat, and similar daily tasks then remind them if they get injured on one of these tools that will be the nature of their life for from a couple of weeks to the rest of their life, depending on how badly they injure themselves. This has definitely been an eye opener and reminder for me.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: richhiway on June 07, 2020, 06:06:36 PM
Hello Howard.
Glad you are mostly in one piece.
Heal up fast.

Rich
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on June 07, 2020, 08:36:22 PM
Howard thatís a great idea!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on June 07, 2020, 09:36:06 PM
I teach students to use a fair amount of tools in ag mech class and the table saw is the one that I really dread watching or teaching others to use.  I use it for ripping, cutting coves, bevels, miters, dados, circles and just about anything else but it is an unforgiving machine. 

Several years ago I was having the students rip a piece of plywood just to get used to using the saw with the fence.  There was a girl in the class who, right near the end of the cut, quit holding the roughly 2'x2' piece up against the fence.  It kicked back, missed her and knocked the heck out of me.  I insisted she do the cut again and this time do it properly.  She did it exactly the same and I got smacked again.  There were 20 or so classmates watching and learning unintended lessons and probably vocabulary.  I guess I would have qualified for doing something dumb that day, twice.

Not having the use of a hand will certainly give you a different perspective.  I have been impressed that you have been able to make good posts with one hand typing (Howard).  

A very good friend of mine cut most of his right hand off in a meat slicer while working in a grocery store when he was home on leave when in the Air Force.  The military had typing training books for one handed typists.  He told the instructor that he must have gotten the wrong one because it was for a right handed typist.  The instructor turned the book over and the flip side was for left handed aspiring typists.  He mentioned that he felt a little dumb at that point.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 07, 2020, 09:45:39 PM
   A technique I started when I was in USMC and followed through my follow-on career was any time one of my troops or employees was injured or had a near miss I got the team together very soon thereafter and had the troop or employee give a safety class to his teammates explaining 1)What happened 2) Why? 3) What made it worse? 4) What helped lesson the injury (PPE, etc) 5) How it could have been prevented/Lessons learned.

 I found a worker bee speaking in language the rest of the team understood with his arm in a cast or a pull start hat on his head (I.e. Bandages like an eastern turban), visible stitches in his body, etc. had a more lasting impact than me as the OIC/Manager giving the same safety class. I shamefully admit in my current condition I'd have more street credibility than I'd like to admit. ::)

Cavey,

  Thanks for the typing compliment but I am mostly a hunt and peck typist and I still have a working thumb on my L hand for the shift key.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 07, 2020, 09:56:46 PM
you really are a hunt and peck guy if you use your thumb of your left hand for the shift key.  Left side of the keyboard or right?  :D.  I was forced to take typing as a freshman in HS.  I argued I did not plan to be a secretary.  little did I know, that is half what I do as a doc. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on June 07, 2020, 10:14:25 PM
Glad you got to keep your hand.  This month i had one friend drop a 14b axle onto his hand, crushing the pinky and cutting 3 other tendons.. And another who had a plunge router get away and router the tendon out of his dominant thumb.  

Not good folks.  Be careful. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on June 07, 2020, 11:01:06 PM
That is another tool that requires undivided attention.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on June 07, 2020, 11:24:45 PM
I was taught "The tool is always watching you". Some I think with malicious intent.

Getting thumped like that, Howard look at the x-ray next time closely. if the tips of any of the fingertip bones are broken check closely to see that those little pieces are in contact and knitting. They can be tough.

After confirmation that we are indeed flightless I spent 9 months with both arms in casts. As the doc was putting them on he said "I'd be thinking about that next trip to the bathroom". That did not improve my day :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 07, 2020, 11:44:00 PM
Yeah, not being able to use the dominant hand in the bathroom is bad, but 2 hands.....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 08, 2020, 12:10:31 AM
remember not to try to clean the grass from a mower shoot with the motor, let alone the blades running.  see one a week or so all summer long.  lots of bone fragments and able to tell the weather changes coming for a lifetime  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 08, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
Doc,

   Unfortunately one of my projects is to replace a spindle on my 54" mower deck. I broke it last time I mowed and ordered/received the replacement parts now can't put them on and the yard is beginning to look like a hay field. I thought about getting out the push mower yesterday but figured that would get the ace bandage and maybe the dressing sweaty so I figured I could wait.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 08, 2020, 08:25:22 AM
I have a great x-ray to make you feel better about you condition, but I do not want to risk a privacy concern.  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on June 08, 2020, 09:01:56 AM
I never had a shop teacher that didn't have very significant scars or missing body parts from at least one tool in the shop. 

Yes Howard it kinda gets your attention.

The tool I remember being most respectful of was the handheld router, we had an idiot showing off, that was lucky the worst injury he got was his pride. I thought for sure it was going straight into his guts.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on June 08, 2020, 09:15:08 AM
Those shop programs are long gone from the high schools here.  School boards are just not willing to take on the liability that comes with the current litigious world we live in.  It's too bad.  Learning how to work safely is a benefit that pays off for the rest of life.  Avoiding the lessons that teach that is a detriment for the rest of life.  

The greatest gift my father ever gave me was instilling safe habits working in the shop or with farm equipment.  Those lessons got ingrained at an early age and have kept me intact for a long time.  I am considering replacing the Powermatic with a Sawstop though.  Just a little insurance policy as I get older.  Besides the safety aspect, they did a really good job with that saw and it has a lot of improvements over the traditional table saw design.

Glad you came out as well as you did, WV.  I hope you heal up quickly.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Roxie on June 08, 2020, 09:59:04 AM
My most feared shop tool was Cowboy Bob. He wasnít working unless he was bleeding. May God rest his soul. :) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on June 08, 2020, 11:01:59 AM
 :D That is funny. For a long time I figured if I wasn't bruised or bleeding I wasn't working hard enough. @doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) I worked as a lawn and garden mechanic for years, I always cringed when equipment came in the shop with safety devices deliberately disabled. Eventually we would not work on the unit unless we could fix them but many times the customer refused, he was the only one using it and he knew what he was doing. ::) The worst were belt covers and seat switches.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: dirtmotor on June 08, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
When I took metal and wood shop in school we had to go to the employment office and take a mechanical aptitude test before we could take the classes , my senior year they decided that was discrimination,
Wow the chuck keys started then , along with hair being ripped out by about every piece of equipment in the shop . I really felt for long time shop teacher Elmo Scott , he resigned that same year .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 08, 2020, 01:02:46 PM
   As far as I know before this bug hit and the local high school closed they were still teaching shop here or industrial arts or whatever the new term is. The kids would build a small house on big metal I-beams that could be transported and reassembled. When finished they'd auction it off and start on the next one. They learned carpentry, plumbing, electrical, roofing, etc and I thought was great practical experience. We have had trouble keeping shop teachers lately. One quit a few years ago 6 weeks before school end. The sub was not certified in shop so she could not let them use the tools. I talked with her and she set it up for me to bring the mill and saw a few logs and we had a real good time at it,
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jeff on June 08, 2020, 09:18:34 PM
How dumb do we have to be to play?

YouTube (https://youtu.be/vVYZUOXfULM)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on June 08, 2020, 09:24:27 PM
Thats right up there with a high lift jack handle.

I noticed that you got your face right in there in the "proper" position before you let the handle go.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jeff on June 08, 2020, 09:28:08 PM
I wated to punch back but I still have a 6x12x16 ridge beam to hoist.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 08, 2020, 09:29:39 PM
   Now where is that FF policy on ladders again? :D Glad not to see anyone taking a tumble. whiteflag_smiley
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 08, 2020, 09:52:48 PM
Don't get mad at me. I am not being a safety nazi, its just that I noticed the rear left tire [EDIT: that should say rear right) on your ATV looks pretty low. You might want to check on that. ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 08, 2020, 10:25:50 PM
  Now where is that FF policy on ladders again? :D Glad not to see anyone taking a tumble. whiteflag_smiley
Right, I was waiting for a ladder to fall and totally missed the winch handle until I watched it again.  Jeff, that qualifies for sure.  Ouch.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on June 08, 2020, 11:30:47 PM
Ouch!!! Everything was looking good until that in the video. I bet you had a few words come out. Lucky! Could have been worse. You can take it your a lean mean dude now after all the weight you lost 👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on June 09, 2020, 12:48:15 PM
I inadvertently practiced sho Shi Ban on a mostly firewood log pile. A spark blew out of my waste barrel that I burned last Thursday. The wind was really bad out of the South and it was hot. I drove by the pile on my way to the office after eating lunch around 1:00  didn't smell anything hot or see any smoke from the barrel. Was by it multiple times the day before never noticed anything. Son got home from work about 5:00 and called to ask me if that pile was supposed to be burning. I beat it out of the office and home.  Called the fire in told the dispatch it was just a pile of firewood logs  and nothing was in trouble they sent a couple trucks out any way. 

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I have a hydrant not far from there, and had got hose strung saved, some logs, a spruce and some red cedar, it messed up a bunch of this year's firewood, but  It could have been much worse! I should've checked that barrel over the weekend and made sure it was burnt out, so my bad. I suppose the double vortex design ;D would've  burnt it more efficiently. It was a long evening after it got mostly out I started cleaning up. Put a sprinkler on the pile over night for good measure.  I 've got a few logs to fish out of the pond but hey a bath was a good way to put them out. The local fire department brought the grass fire truck out and a couple  new volunteers got some live fire hose training. So some good came of it. I lost some fire wood and some barn beams I had just stashed there but nothing all that important. Maybe I'll build a burnt edge bench or two. ::) 

Jeff's video really made me cringe,  looked like the hoist system was working well, to a point.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 09, 2020, 01:26:30 PM
Woodpiles can be a real pain to put out, I imagine a log pile is only slightly easier. We had a structure fire one time on a remote house, the house was in the foundation by the time it was called in, so not much to save there, but protect the adjacent house (the wood siding was starting to steam, then smoke, the windows had already cracked, once we had that under control we realized the was about 5 cords of wood stacked behind the house that was now gone and the radiant heat had started that burning. There was still a very dangerous 3 story chimney standing by itself so accessing the woodpile was a hazard and the pile took a long time to pull apart and get to it all and get it out (we don't like going back for re-kindles). I think we worked as hard on that woodpile as we did on everything else, including chopping through the ice to get water from their pond.
 Glad all you lost was a little wood and an evening. That is a blessing.
 By the way, when I ran burn barrels (illegal here now) I would always throw a piece of steel window screening over the top of the barrel when I was done. I thought it would keep the fly ash down and in the barrel.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on June 09, 2020, 02:08:24 PM
Lots of green grass will slow down a fire. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on June 09, 2020, 02:26:37 PM
Yes to that had my tractors pto been working right I would have at least had windrows of hay there probably bales much  more flammable than green brome. It was due to cut last week.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on June 09, 2020, 04:07:53 PM
Glad to here you caught it. Itís a good it wasnít in the fall
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 09, 2020, 04:29:29 PM
Yep, good thing that grass was green or it would have been a lot more exciting for you and for the new firefighters.  Piles of burning anything are always a challenge.  Long time ago we went to a fire at a pallet yard.  There was a mountain of mulched wood that had to be 80í tall all on fire.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on June 09, 2020, 04:55:37 PM
How dumb do we have to be to play?

YouTube (https://youtu.be/vVYZUOXfULM)
When you got hit was that the tension on the rope before it engaged in the cog ? Hope your feeling better 👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 09, 2020, 05:08:19 PM
@Jeff (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1) , you are a bad influence.  ;D I put a too large log on the mill too late in the day and nearly killed myself getting it turned right and the first side opened. I was still sucking air and soaked with sweat when I decided to shut down for the day. As I was pulling the tarp over it, the tarp hooked on the winch handle and in my state of exhaustion I just gave the handle a  whack to  swing it downt to the low position. It came around and managed to find my chin. Now I'm sweating heavy and sucking wind AND can't see straight. :D
 I'd like to say it's your fault, but I know better.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on June 09, 2020, 06:06:14 PM
"You'll have some of that on these big jobs"

Had a nurse one time doing something, she saw me wince and said "I didn't feel a thing" perfect delivery and cracked me up :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 12, 2020, 09:31:34 PM
   Okay - a gory update. Went to see my PA today to get the stitches out and when she looked at the injured digits she decided it was too early to take them out. It has been 9 days today since the injury. I was wondering if it wasn't a little early. She set me up an appointment to come back Tuesday. The middle finger is still showing some dead fish color from infection. She gave me a shot of antibiotic and oral antibiotic for a week. She said to remove the bandages, wash it good with soap and water, let it air out an hour or so then redress it pretty much as before. I'm thinking the fingernail on the middle finger is not the total loss I expected. May actually retain the left half of the one on my index fingers.

   I still can't close my fingers but some of that may be from the swelling and being immobilized for over a week. I know there are worse things but I would not wish this on anyone. In all honesty the pain has been relatively minimal. Maybe I suffer from long term shock syndrome. ???

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 12, 2020, 10:13:47 PM
Yeah, I see her concerns. I am no Doc, but it looks like that needs to dry up a bit. That soft white skin is not ready. I think it might not be getting enough air on a daily basis. But heck, with some airing out I bet it is good to go in a day or two. Just keep that puppy clean. I know, waiting sucks.
 My finger burn finally healed up a few days ago from the secondary cut I added. I am in good shape now, you will be in better shape in a few days. Did I mention you should just keep it clean? I think, as bad as it may look, you got really lucky.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 12, 2020, 10:29:21 PM
   The best part for me is being able to remove the bandage and gently wash it good with soap and warm water then I leave it open to the air 30-45 minutes then bandage and splint it again. Hopefully that is going to be enough drying time. I guess we will see tomorrow night how much difference it made.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on June 13, 2020, 02:39:57 AM
H2O2 is your friend. Pour or liberally dab onto your problem areas. Might sting a bit, but it will work on the dead stuff and sanitize a bit. Dab it dry, then let it breath until it dries for a while. Works for me on damp wounds (not a doctor, and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn recently). Hope you get healed up soon.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 13, 2020, 04:32:20 AM
I agree on letting it dry out.  exposed to air is not dangerous, and did not cause infection. the white skin may be macerated (think wrinkled skin soaking in the bath tub)  peroxide is good for removing blood and scab.  if the one wound is open (looks like the stitches pulled out)  you do not want it in the wound as it denatures protein and can damage good tissue.  part of the finger flexion is swelling and if you try too hard it can open up the lacerations.  stitches come out usually in 10 days, and beyond that they are usually not doing much.  next week they could take them out, and then reinforce with steri strips maybe.  If one opens up, it will heal by secondary intention (scar in) and that can reduce function in a finger.  so be patient and let it air out a little more.  that's my 200 bucks worth (inflated from the usual 2 cents)  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on June 13, 2020, 05:16:40 AM
Did not look long at the picture, I will let others do that.  :)  I do want to wish you luck.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on June 13, 2020, 06:51:24 AM
In a dumb move, not paying attention moving logs with the tractor, I backed into the corner of my lumber building hitting it on the corner with the box blade :-\.  Hurt my feelings more than it hurt the building. 


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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 13, 2020, 07:43:40 AM
Ah, that will buff right out. ;D Or you could plant a bush there so you don't have to see it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: stanwelch on June 13, 2020, 09:53:31 AM
 :)  I was amazed in February when I was there that it wasnít dented. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on June 13, 2020, 10:34:56 AM
In a dumb move, not paying attention moving logs with the tractor, I backed into the corner of my lumber building hitting it on the corner with the box blade :-\.  Hurt my feelings more than it hurt the building.  


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Now that you baptized it, you will probably never hit it again. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 13, 2020, 03:41:46 PM
WV, did they say anything about possible tendon damage on that middle finger?  Yeah, I would say thatís getting too wet.  Are you working and getting sweaty.  Maybe you need more couch/recliner time.

Danny, the corner of my fenced yard looks just like the corner of yer building.  My old tractor had clutch issues and even though I pressed the clutch it kept on driving and the blade snagged the post.  A new corner trim piece would probably fix most of the damage.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 13, 2020, 06:46:24 PM
@firefighter ontheside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26921) ,

   The PA did not mention any tendon damage. I think it looks better today after a little drying time last night. I showered and washed it good a while ago and am letting it dry another few minutes then I will bandage and splint them for the night. I liberally coat a non-stick pad with triple antibiotic ointment, wrap a few wraps of gauze around it then tape it. Then I put the splint back on and wrap it with an ace bandage. I don't think I ever got the gauze sweaty as I kept it wrapped until last night. I did go push mower the front yard a little last night but immediately came in and showered and washed the fingers, let them dry nearly an hour then bandaged it. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on June 13, 2020, 07:26:45 PM
Howard, don't you have a neighbor you could pay to fix your rider?  I have several push mowers but they are relegated to recreational purposes only these days.

Danny, I know that dinging your shed hurt your feelings but, probably like a lot of folks on here, I have been operating tractors since I was 10 years old and I still find a way to do things like that.  I am glad you are able to get out and do stuff.

After yesterday and the night before, I have black fingernails on both hands.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 13, 2020, 07:45:08 PM
Cavey,

   Thanks for the concern.

   I could either fix it or get my son to fix it (It is just removing 4 bolts in the spindle, putting a new one back then putting the blade on, and the belt then tightening the tension spring and ready to go - the spring I could not do now) but with the slopes and creek bank/drop-offs I mow I feel safer push mowing it myself till I have 2 working hands. I asked my PA yesterday about the vibration from the mower and she said she did not see where it would bother the fractured fingers which was my concern as the tip are pretty well protected with the bandages and the split. I don't want to try to run a weedeater yet and with the push mower I can get closer to the tight spots. I did not run a tank of gas through the push mower so it was not an extended session. I figured maybe an hour a day at sunset then go grab a shower, air out the stitches for an hour and re-bandage and re-splint.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Roxie on June 14, 2020, 06:55:41 AM
Itís enough to make a person wonder if we own property or if it owns us. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on June 14, 2020, 07:24:59 AM
:)  I was amazed in February when I was there that it wasnít dented.
I guess that you did not see the holes in the other end where I punched through with the tractor forks :-\. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: stanwelch on June 14, 2020, 04:34:41 PM
 :D I didnít see the other damage.  :)   What else are you not telling me?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on June 14, 2020, 08:16:50 PM
Boy, I did a dumb one on Friday afternoon.  The AC on the tractor wasn't working the best, and decided I should add a can of 134.  Took the cap off the compressor, and was looking to see if that was the right place to connect my hose, and touched the back of my left hand on the back of the fan.  The noise was like buzz for just a second or so, got the hand away, dropped and lost the cap, and was hoping the hand was not too badly damaged, and went ahead and put a can of freon in.  Much cooler AC.  Put the cold can against my wound, and it froze to it.  Was so sore that evening, when I went to bed, couldn't find a place to put the hand without it hurting.  Much better the next morning.  And it improved all day Saturday. I can make a fist today.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 14, 2020, 08:31:19 PM
Ouch.  You didnít put your tongue on there did ya?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on June 15, 2020, 10:39:09 PM
No, didn't put my tongue on it.  The can warmed up when it was empty. Tractor was a lot more pleasant to run with just one can added.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 16, 2020, 06:56:00 PM
   I went in this afternoon and the nurse practitioner on duty took out the stitches. A couple were buried pretty deep and she struggled a little to get them pulled up enough to cut then pull out. Surprisingly, to me anyway, there was more itching than pain associated with removing them. She said everything looked good and complimented the ER doc for good tight stitches to close the wound tightly. She says I can leave it open to the air at home but suggested I cover them before going out where there is more risk to getting crud in the wound to encourage more infection. Now I am just hoping the ortho doc tells me Friday I can do away with the splint.

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 Won't win any beauty contests but sure looks lots better than it did 13 days ago. Looks like I will lose about 1/3 of the nail off the index finger instead of the whole nail like I expected. The nail on the middle finger seems intact and the bubble/blister looking lump is where the ER doc pulled the loose skin over an open cut and it will sluff off or be absorbed I gather. I still can't bend them far but don't want to try much more till the ortho doc says okay.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 16, 2020, 07:19:59 PM
Looking better for sure.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 16, 2020, 07:34:17 PM
the nail should re-grow, you would have never won a beauty contest anyway!  a little scratch on the finger is a real pain in the ash!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on June 16, 2020, 07:47:24 PM
   Now Doc, that wasn't very nice. >:( I think we need to send you back to take some "Remedial Bedside Manners Classes." :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on June 16, 2020, 07:54:54 PM
most of my older patients (you qualify)  look at me then laugh and appreciate my "bedside manner".    hope you do well old man! :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on June 16, 2020, 08:24:59 PM
Had to have several large trees removed adjacent to the powerline.  One really big oak was partially uprooted and hung up in a couple of other trees and hanging over my powerline.  Had to be removed from the top down.  I told the tree service that I would clean up.  So I was moving a big load of limbs on the forks with the tractor when one pretty nice sized limb fell out of the load right in front of the tractor.  The little voice on my left shoulder said, "You should stop the tractor, get off, and drag that limb out of the way."  The little voice on the right shoulder said, "Naw, just run over it, it will not be a problem."  Well, so much for the old saying, "Discretion is the better part of valor."


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/IMG_3444.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1592353351)
 

So much for saving money by doing the clean up myself :-\.  "Stupid is as stupid does".
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 16, 2020, 09:26:18 PM
Yeah, the Kubota hydraulic filters are pretty exposed.  Some folks make guards to go,around them.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on June 16, 2020, 10:00:11 PM
They donít give that kubota fluid away either, and I wouldnít dare mix something else in with it.  Have heard reports of bad things happening when you do. Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on June 16, 2020, 10:01:00 PM
From the looks of that fluid it was contaminated with water and needed replacing.....badly.  One place where it usually enters is a cracked gear shift.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on June 17, 2020, 05:19:05 AM
Than with the 2 dealers that I went to, they would not have the filter in stock and I would be down a week waiting for parts.  ::)  ::)  :o :o >:( >:(  Real  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on June 17, 2020, 06:00:32 AM
From the looks of that fluid it was contaminated with water and needed replacing.....badly.  One place where it usually enters is a cracked gear shift.  
MM is on the money here Danny.
Sometimes the little boo-boo reveals a potentially big crap fest coming your way. 
Those little voices were your best friends!
Best not use that machine again till you've changed oil and filters, plus figured out where the water is coming from. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on June 17, 2020, 06:59:38 AM
That might be water contamination but may also be air in the fluid from it still running while low on fluid. 
mh 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on June 17, 2020, 07:05:18 AM
Moose is right.  There was no water contamination.  I collected most of the fluid, that which did not leak out until I got a bucket under it,  and the fluid was good.  However, in my haste, the bucket was not clean so I did replace the fluid with new fluid, and Banjo is correct, Kubota is proud of their fluid. 

Note to self:  Listen to the little voice on the left and ignore the one on the right :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on June 17, 2020, 07:43:36 AM
Shortly after I got my new to me Kubota, I bought a filter to change the fluid.  Then I found out how expensive the super udt was and decided I didnít need to change it yet.  I will soon though.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on June 17, 2020, 01:00:12 PM
Look at the specs on your oil container, and check to see if there is another fluid that meets the specs, and saves money.  I bought NAPA fluid this year. They have a sale in the spring on oil and filters.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: bwstout on June 17, 2020, 01:18:21 PM
I did the same thing on my 4701 except it broke the housing where the filter screwed on had to replace it along with fluid and filters. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 01, 2020, 10:11:59 PM
   Well, its been 4 weeks and 4 hours since I stuck my paw in my table saw. Here is a before - actual scene at the ER my wife took and later sent me and not previously posted.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38064/june_3_tablesaw_accident.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1593655432)
 Below is an after/current view. There is still a little infection, apparently, in my middle finger, I lost about 1/3 of the nail on my index finger which is also still very stiff (Feels like a badly jammed finger from a baseball/softball incident). I am doing Physical Therapy 2-3 times a week and still do not have very much grip strength in my left hand and making and maintaining a fist is very difficult. It gets a little better every day but I have every expectation I will eventually make a complete recovery.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38064/IMG_2043.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1593656014)
   I will say it makes me very nervous now every time I use the table saw.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on July 01, 2020, 10:54:44 PM
Glad your healing up. Be careful 👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 02, 2020, 12:03:29 AM
I like the second picture better than the first!  
Glad you are getting better.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on July 02, 2020, 08:42:40 AM
Glad it is healing nicely. That very nervous feeling can be dangerous, subject to flinch or pull back when consistent feed and pressure are needed, just be aware. I do listen to it though, if something doesn't feel right stop and figure out a way to jig it so that you are out of harm's way. I've taken a whole day to make and set up wood or plastic pressure fingers and guides to run small stock through a machine, which is a small amount of time compared to getting chewed on.

My dumb move last week was getting home worn out and not unloading the back of the truck, which was pointed downhill and the drains were plugged. When I wandered by and looked in a couple of days later my straps, logrite, and chainsaw were completely under water. Pulled the plug and blew water out of the cylinder, brake cleaner as that was the best quick dry stuff I had on hand, stripped the cover and blew it all out good then a few days of drying out, seems to be ok but dumb!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: richhiway on July 02, 2020, 08:58:15 AM
Looks good. Glad you have all your fingers. Have a good 4th. 
Rotating blades and machinery have no conscience. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on July 02, 2020, 09:40:04 AM
Glad your hand is improving!  I hope the progress continues!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on July 03, 2020, 01:32:02 PM
This don't even come close to what you guys have done recently.  But I'm right there with you ...its just in an older post.  Something like "Nearly went to the show room".  Or something similar.  But the other day my blackberrys had come in and I was out there eating my fill.....Have you ever put a nice juicy blackberry in your mouth that had a stink bug on it?  It didn't take long to spit it out.🤯
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on July 03, 2020, 02:16:07 PM
That is an unfortunate situation Banjo. Glad youíre OK.

Iím kinda curious though.  What do stink bugs taste like?  Never got around to tasting one myself.  :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on July 03, 2020, 02:24:17 PM
I would definitely put that at the very bottom of my bucket list.  It didn't stay long, but taste about like they smell if you mash one.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on July 03, 2020, 02:35:58 PM
It could be they have extraordinary medicinal benefit.  Perhaps stink bugs will provide the next breakthrough in drug development. Let us know if you start experiencing any super-powers.  :D

Seriously though, Iím sorry you had that happen. It just ainít right. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on July 03, 2020, 02:36:30 PM
Seems bugs like blackberries as much as we do.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on July 03, 2020, 02:47:15 PM
Your right about that.  Since our main crop is done, you really have to be careful eating off the vine.  Deb made lots of jam and some jelly...she don't like the seeds.  Next will be the muscadines.  They are about the size of small marbles right now,.  I gave each vine some triple 13 a month ago and yesterday they got one and a half lbs of ammonia nitrate each.  Now if I can keep the opossums and raccoons out of them ,we will do good.  Banjo
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on July 03, 2020, 05:43:26 PM
I was feeling my way to the coffeepot a few weeks ago, still half asleep. Poured a cup and took the first sip, hmm something ain't quite right, so of course I took another, Bleeech, I'm wide awake now! The little custard done percolated hisself. I feel your pain Banjo  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 03, 2020, 05:50:01 PM
@Banjo picker (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=8028) , i do not know what a muscadine is, but if you eat one off the vine, make sure there is not a opossum or a raccoon, or God forbid both on it! :D :D :D ;) :o :o :o 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: jeepcj779 on July 03, 2020, 06:55:48 PM
My blackberries have come in also. Too bad I am still almost 5000 miles away from home. Good crop this year so far. I guess stink bugs are not out in force yet, or my Mom would have made it a point to let me know. She hates them almost as much as I do. The are a few stink-bug-hating threads floating around the forum, but I don't know if anyone else has conducted any taste tests.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 03, 2020, 06:57:12 PM
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) 
  
  Vitis rotundafolia if I remember correctly. Cultivated they call them scuppernongs - can be black or bronze in color. A thick skinned grape and some can get nearly as big as a golf ball. You can't eat the skin when raw but squeeze out the insides, and cook them and separate the seeds, add to the empty hulls with appropriate amount of sugar and lemon or orange juice (for the acid) and cook till they start to jell and there is nothing better on a hot biscuit. digin_2

   The last time I was in Florida was August time frame and they were getting ripe and on the way home I stopped by Poarch Ala across the line and got 35 lbs from a guy and made muscadine hull preserves and if I am not careful they may be a life time supply. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on July 03, 2020, 10:54:56 PM
Sorry bout the stink bug thing, It was a sympathetic chuckle honestly  it was...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 08, 2020, 08:52:49 PM
   In the immortal words of Ray Stevens (A great American) "Its me again, Margaret". No pictures yet, I'll take some tomorrow if I am able to walk, and another Honorable Mention for a Darwin award and another shamefaced post here.

 I decided to spray a bunch of asters (We call them stickweeds here and there are several species) in my pasture so I loaded my 15 gallon sprayer in the front basket of my 650 Kawasaki Prairie, mixed and filled it with herbicide and went up to the top side of my pasture and started spraying. I'd run up the slope as far as I almost safely could, spray as far as I could then back down and move over 20-30 ft and repeat. I got all the upper slope above my bench (flat spot in the pasture) then started on the down slope. I sprayed on the down slope, spraying, easing down and repeating until I was about halfway down then went back to the top and moved over 40-50 feet and started down again on a steeper grade. I got hung on a stump at one point, got off and pushed the ATV off and got back on before it got away from me. I went downhill 10-12 feet, stopped, sprayed then started up and either dropped into an unseen hole or hit another stump. The grade was enough this caused the back of the ATV to come up and it flipped throwing me off in front then rolling over my chest then down the hill. It flipped another time or two then landed upright and rolled another 100 yards or so. I could hear it still running then it choked down. I got up and could not identify any critical body parts that were obviously broken. I followed the path of the crushed weeds picking up a pair of gloves and various plastic ATV body parts, mini-air compressor and seat and such. I got to the ATV and found both front tires were flat - maybe just knocked off the rims and a bent left handlebar. The sprayer was still in the basket secured by the winch cable. The wiring was ripped off of the sprayer and the wand looks like a boomerang. I tried the starter and the ATV fired back up. They are tough machines! I walked back up to the start looking for the sprayer cables but did not find them. I came in and got a shower and checked for more damage. I have a small scrape on my head, a scrape and shallow puncture on my left side, hard to lift my arms and an aching chest but way luckier than I should have been. I took an 800 mg ibupropen left over from my last incident and will see how stiff I am in the morning as to whether I want to take John up and get my ATV and take him to the 4 wheeler doc.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 08, 2020, 10:05:50 PM
WOW.  glad you are ok.  this one could have been bad.  hope you can get out of bed in the am.  they are great machines, but are so capable that they can get you in trouble.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on July 09, 2020, 06:38:24 AM
I can't believe that you rolled yourself down the mountain.  Not good.  There are easier ways to get down :).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 09, 2020, 07:29:09 AM
Sounds like you and the Kawasaki got a little banged up, but both functioning.  Seems like both need a little time to mend and then get back on it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on July 09, 2020, 08:05:01 AM
Glad to hear the outcome was some what ok.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 09, 2020, 08:15:19 AM
Geez Howard you could've been kilt! I am anxious to hear, this morning how you feel. Bet you feel like you'd been run over by a bull. Between the hand and now this, you need a break. The morning after is the telling point. I used to warn all the vehicle accident victims I tended too who refused to go to the hospital to take a careful assessment the next morning of the pains and issues and reconsider the trip. I hope you are feeling better today, but if you don't, reconsider a checking out.
 I flipped a good sized garden tractor over backwards on me about 30 years ago. I was stuck under it for a while just holding it back from crushing me with my legs. Nobody around to help get me out. I couldn't push it forward because it was chained to a log behind me, just about the time my legs were calling it quits, I managed to swing it to the side and get out. I couldn't even walk, and crawled to this house. Pretty scary at the time. I hurt for a couple of days.
 Just take it easy and be aware of what your body is telling you. Let us know how the morning after feels.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ed_K on July 09, 2020, 08:35:46 AM
 I did the same as OG with a yamaha big bear. Back in Nov 94 only I was going after a log in rough terain. Apr 95 was admitted to hospital for a back op as I couldn't walk anymore. When I tipped to 4 wheeler over I blew the disk out of L4-L5. it's good to go get checked over.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 09, 2020, 08:53:41 AM
Wow!  Glad you are able to share this ... healthy enough!  Hope your soreness passes, glad you did not.

Hope you and the 4 wheeler heal quickly.  These mountainside terrains can be a pain, literally.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on July 09, 2020, 09:10:53 AM

@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) 
You are not having good luck these days. Right now I'd say that if something looks iffy, you might want to leave it alone.

Heal soon!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on July 09, 2020, 09:33:06 AM
They say bad things come in three's.  For your sake I hope not.  You need some serious R&R.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 09, 2020, 09:45:09 AM
   I am still stiff and sore but less now than last night. Pretty restless night as hard/impossible to find a comfortable position. Took another 800 mg Ibupropen at 0100. Tried to sneeze while ago which was very painful! Most bruising is in my upper left chest where it rolled over me. 

   My repair dealer is increasingly unresponsive - has had my wife's ATV 5-6 months and could not give me a definitive answer on the issue and he still has not shipped back the core on a rebuilt motor I had them install last winter. I checked and found another 30 miles away I think I will check. He is a Kawasaki dealer too. He says they are 1-2 weeks out on initial troubleshooting so I will try them. 

    Well, I better run and will add on more later today.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 09, 2020, 10:30:50 PM
Given it is 'later today' I hope you have not had a newanew item to share in this thread!  Good luck on finding a good/better dealer.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 09, 2020, 11:04:35 PM
   I took it to a dealer 30 miles south of here (Princeton WV). He promises backlog of 1-2 weeks to for troubleshooting then ever how long it takes to get the parts and install them. Mostly it looked like straightening bent racks and such. He said the do replace handlebars due to the risk and liability there which I can understand. We will see.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on July 09, 2020, 11:08:27 PM
Hope you are feeling better there Howard.  Scary for sure.  

Been sorting cows and bulls the past couple of days and had to sort out my teaser bull from the milking herd today.  He is a runt and really good natured.  Too small to breed anything but he lets me know when one is in heat so we can get her taken care of, just makes life easier.  Well, had to kick him out of "his herd" today and put in a clean up bull, so needless to say Doc Holiday was not a happy camper.  He was putting on a show, throwing dirt, hollering away, etc so we threw a rope halter on him to lead him off.  Well the rodeo began and away he went.  He did go into the pasture we needed him in, but now he had on a too large rope halter hanging from his head, and he was not about to be handled again to get it off of him.  We tried to catch the little bugger several times and he wanted nothing to do with us.  This is a bull that you can walk up to and scratch any part of, basically he is a large dog and about that size, but we took his women from him and he was MAD! 

Ok - grab the calf rope and lets get this over with.  One of my hired gals roped him by the head and he started to take off so I grabbed the rope, added 260 lbs to his escape load, and there was no way I was letting go.  Doc launched me out of the mud hole I was in, so much so that one boot remained behind, and I landed in a series of green, runny, fresh pies, from my head to my stocking foot!!!  Didn't notice that detail until we were done with him, which was probably a good thing looking back on it.  We all laughed about it as I realized what my face was in, oh well, it happens.  Funny thing is that my back has been bothering me the past couple of days but is feeling much better now!!! Must be the sudden acceleration followed by the instant fiber and chlorophyll infusion.  Might have to open up a "Unique, Nature Setting, Chiropractic Office", just advise clients to wear old clothes!!    
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on July 09, 2020, 11:32:38 PM
Sounds like you had some fun 😂
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on July 10, 2020, 05:30:36 AM
Hopefully your healing up👍. When you get your four wheeler back find another way to spray the hills 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on July 10, 2020, 07:30:59 AM
Remember, you and magic Man are not in a competition.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on July 10, 2020, 09:32:24 AM

@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) 
You big Meany taking his girls away!!! I'd be mad too. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on July 10, 2020, 09:44:12 AM
Misters Green and Southside:
Howard it is my opinion (and yes it just might be a biased opinion) that you are taking way too many turns on the did something wrong thread.  By the way you can have all of my turns as I have no intention of competing with you.  
Southside having grown up on a farm I can relate to what you wrote.  When animals have adrenaline running it takes more to control them.  One of my brothers once cracked the leader of the pack with a ball bat.  Thing went smoothly after that.
Hope you had a good shower.
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 10, 2020, 09:54:50 AM
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) good to know you are consistent, with BS inside and out!  :) glad everyone is ok!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on July 10, 2020, 10:53:53 AM
Southside, that is just too funny. :D I am glad your pride was the only thing hurt. You and Howard would make quite a team.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on July 10, 2020, 11:04:15 AM
Southside, that is just too funny. :D I am glad your pride was the only thing hurt. You and Howard would make quite a team.
Southside, that is just too funny, I am glad your pride was the only thing hurt.
It probably happened so fast that he is just realizing it happened.
I sure would like to see a video clip of that happening.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Wudman on July 10, 2020, 12:06:46 PM
Hope you are feeling better there Howard.  Scary for sure.  

Been sorting cows and bulls the past couple of days and had to sort out my teaser bull from the milking herd today.  He is a runt and really good natured.  Too small to breed anything but he lets me know when one is in heat so we can get her taken care of, just makes life easier.  Well, had to kick him out of "his herd" today and put in a clean up bull, so needless to say Doc Holiday was not a happy camper.  He was putting on a show, throwing dirt, hollering away, etc so we threw a rope halter on him to lead him off.  Well the rodeo began and away he went.  He did go into the pasture we needed him in, but now he had on a too large rope halter hanging from his head, and he was not about to be handled again to get it off of him.  We tried to catch the little bugger several times and he wanted nothing to do with us.  This is a bull that you can walk up to and scratch any part of, basically he is a large dog and about that size, but we took his women from him and he was MAD!

Ok - grab the calf rope and lets get this over with.  One of my hired gals roped him by the head and he started to take off so I grabbed the rope, added 260 lbs to his escape load, and there was no way I was letting go.  Doc launched me out of the mud hole I was in, so much so that one boot remained behind, and I landed in a series of green, runny, fresh pies, from my head to my stocking foot!!!  Didn't notice that detail until we were done with him, which was probably a good thing looking back on it.  We all laughed about it as I realized what my face was in, oh well, it happens.  Funny thing is that my back has been bothering me the past couple of days but is feeling much better now!!! Must be the sudden acceleration followed by the instant fiber and chlorophyll infusion.  Might have to open up a "Unique, Nature Setting, Chiropractic Office", just advise clients to wear old clothes!!    
Sorry I missed out on the fun.
Wud
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 10, 2020, 01:56:23 PM
I'm sitting here picturing a lonely boot stuck in the mud.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 10, 2020, 07:34:55 PM
@Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297) ,

   That's funny when it is somebody else. We had a big Holstein yearling one year who went to breed our milk cow and missed and caused himself irreparable damage (apparently this happens more often than you think as I've seen them come though the cattle auctions and the auctioneer would say "You're buying this one for meat not as a stock bull"). We were shooting him up with a 12 gauge needle full of penicillin and I was working the needle. My younger but larger brother was going to hold him. I told him he better tie the bull to a nearby pine tree but David was pretty stout and said he could hold him. The bull was laying down as he did not stand for long periods of time and had horns about 4" sticking out the side of his head for convenient handles so David grabbed them. I popped the bull in the rump with that needle and he came up from there with my brother centered on those horns and scrubbed his back on a low limb several times till he fell off then David circled the tree on all fours with the bull nudging him along like a rodeo bull with a clown in a barrel. My dad and I were standing there laughing as it was funny to us at the time. Less so for my brother but he survived.

   My ortho doc visit today went well and he said I was way ahead of where he had expected me to be at this point. One more visit in a month and hopefully I will be done. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 10, 2020, 08:50:22 PM
did you show him the go pro video of your ATV incident?   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on July 10, 2020, 08:53:25 PM
All it showed was the sky going around in circles :D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 10, 2020, 09:06:56 PM
  If you guys knew how bad it hurts right now for me to laugh or cough or sneeze or hiccup you'd be nicer to me. ??? Well, knowing you guys - probably not. ::) I do think about the time I offered to send Paul Case a set of chopsticks when he cut his thumb off. I guess its true what Mom used to say "God will get you for that."
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on July 10, 2020, 10:06:43 PM
Sorry I missed out on the fun. Wud


Oh trust me, I saved some fun for when you get here.  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on July 10, 2020, 10:22:41 PM
So apparently a photo of the event exists! At least part of it. Here is the defeated Doc Holiday and his conquerer Kristina, I am at the end of my rope just out of the picture.   
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/34297/6001.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1594434146)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 10, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
   You know if you take your backhoe and dig a pit and put the cow's feed in a bucket at the bottom so she goes down there to feed  Doc Holiday may be able to consummate the act with Big Nose Kate and you can get your boot back. Hey, it works with big tall mares and short donkeys for mule raising.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on July 10, 2020, 11:21:38 PM
Thatís awesome. Cute little guy
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 11, 2020, 12:13:35 AM
Southside, 
I did not laugh too hard.  The trip back to the boot must have been kinda anti climatic after the pull through the cow pie. 

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 11, 2020, 12:15:28 AM

My dumb thing fortunately did not cause blood letting or injury!  I should have known better though. 

So recently I had hydraulic hoses made for my grapple.  The old ones were cracking, and I had a leak near the cylinder and decided time to replace the hoses.  I installed the new ones and used it for the first time under load yesterday, Friday.  I was moving some stumps and brush piles.  Near the end of my task the grapple would not close.  I pulled the tractor in the barn to get out of the sun.  I tried to operate the grapple and saw hydraulic fluid spraying, but the grapple did not budge.

After determining the line that failed I disconnected the line coupling from the tractor and removed the grapple from the tractor via the quick attach.  With the tractor out of the way I thought this will be simple.  I removed the piece of fire hose protecting the lines and the cover over the cylinder so I could unscrew the hose.  Well as I mentioned the grapple would not close.  However, when you unscrew the connector from the cylinder thus allowing the fluid to escape, which is under the pressure from the weight of the gripping claw, it does!  I had a nice hydraulic fluid shower.   Shorts, boots, legs, and lower part of my shirt were soaked.  Dumb!  Off to the nearby creek with some Dawn soap to get most of the mess off.  Bagged the clothes for the trip home.  We were in Va. and home is Charlotte NC area currently.

To help end the day right on the way home it rained most of the way.  We reached the 485 loop around Charlotte and had a flat on driver rear of the truck.  This was about 9 pm in the rain with the 3 lanes of traffic and I pulled over just of the end of a merging ramp.  The actual tire changing was not bad, but it took much longer than necessary to get the tire to drop from under the truck.  The tub that helps guide the rod end to couple with the mechanism that lowers the tire had come loose.  So up under the rear of the truck I go.  Did I mention the rain?   I manipulated the tube finally into position so I could get the rod on the lowering mechanism and lowered the tire.  Mean while my loving bride was freaking out over the rain, dark, traffic whizzing by and merging.  Freaking out may be strong, she was genuinely concerned for my well-being.

All good now! made it home and had a nice warm shower. Sitting here visiting the forum with adult beverage in hand. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on July 11, 2020, 06:56:39 AM
Chris Jim,

The clothesline behind Ms Kristina needs to be re-hung. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on July 11, 2020, 07:39:24 AM
That's just short cow fence.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 11, 2020, 08:47:38 AM
That's just short cow fence.
For short cows........
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 11, 2020, 09:06:41 AM
The roped bull reminds me of the dumb thing I did a few weeks ago.  I wanted to set up some temporary fencing so that I could have my goats do some brush clearing.  I decided to get some orange construction fencing and some t posts.  I put it up and connected to some of my other existing fences.  Well the goats are smart enough to know where they should try to escape, but not smart enough to not get stuck in the fence.  I heard them calling frantically and knew something was wrong.  I found them both caught in the fencing.  If you've ever caught a northern pike on a big lure with treble hooks and then used a net to boat the fish, you know how the fish will roll up in the net and get all the hooks hopelessly tangled in the net.  Well, that's what goats with big horns are like in the orange fence.  I haven't tried it again.  I will, but with more thought.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: EOTE on July 11, 2020, 10:27:22 AM
After determining the line that failed I disconnected the line coupling from the tractor and removed the grapple from the tractor via the quick attach.  With the tractor out of the way I thought this will be simple.  I removed the piece of fire hose protecting the lines and the cover over the cylinder so I could unscrew the hose.  Well as I mentioned the grapple would not close.  However, when you unscrew the connector from the cylinder thus allowing the fluid to escape, which is under the pressure from the weight of the gripping claw, it does!  I had a nice hydraulic fluid shower.   Shorts, boots, legs, and lower part of my shirt were soaked.  Dumb!  Off to the nearby creek with some Dawn soap to get most of the mess off.  Bagged the clothes for the trip home.  We were in Va. and home is Charlotte NC area currently.


That's as funny as my hydraulic hose failure years ago as a diesel mechanic...The owner of the ag equipment shop asked me to demonstrate the new Kubota 25 hp tractor and loader to a customer.  He is standing there in his beautiful western suit and boots and explaining all the features to the customer while I am operating the loader.  One of the hoses burst on the loader and you guessed it...my boss in his nice suit was drenched in oil.  The customer thought it was a hoot and laughed his as_ off!  I think he ended up buying the tractor too (after the hose was replaced).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: richhiway on July 11, 2020, 02:56:58 PM
You can change tires a lot faster if you throw a battery powered impact in your tool kit. I picked up the ryobi and it came with a handy little air compressor for $99.00. Came in handy for me! Treat those hydraulic lines like a poisonous snake. They can inject oil thru your skin and if that oil is hot burn the heck out of you.
Everyone take care.
 
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 11, 2020, 04:08:10 PM
EOTE,
At least my clothes were work shorts and shirt!  I had to snicker at myself for not being up wind of the fitting.  IF there happens to be a next time I hope I remember this experience.

richhiway,
Fortunately I had a good cross style wrench in the truck that worked well, and the nuts were not overly tight.  My biggest issue and time waster was trying to get the spare out from under the truck.  I will take a look at the tube that goes over the raising and lowering mechanism to what is up with it.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on July 11, 2020, 04:28:13 PM
Fortunately I had a good cross style wrench in the truck that worked well, and the nuts were not overly tight.  My biggest issue and time waster was trying to get the spare out from under the truck.  I will take a look at the tube that goes over the raising and lowering mechanism to what is up with it.  


It's best to practice lowering that spare the driveway once in a while.

I have an F350 and went to rotate tires couldnt get the spare down. Extension rod and adapter just wouldnt grab anything.  Squirted quite a bit of PB blaster down the tube.  Shone a light in there looked like a rubber bushing thought maybe something in there went bad.

I was sort of fuzzy mentally about what was supposed to be in the tube, and had had enough,  so cut the cable to get the spare off.  Then pulled off the plastic tube. Some stuff fell out but didnt take notice since it was raining rust on me anyway, so proceeded to undo the winch to have a look at it.

Lying there on the ground I slowly  started getting that feeling I was about to learn something.  This feeling turned into the realization that the acorn under my head sort of looked like the rubber  I saw when I shone the flashlight down the tube.  Picked it up and sure enough it was soaked with PB blaster. DANG if a chipmunk hadn't stored his goodies down that tube. :D :D :D

I guess cutting off the winch cable qualifies as dumb, but it wasnt today. Hope that's ok. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Texas Ranger on July 12, 2020, 08:53:32 AM
Seems like I really haven't had a day if I did nothing wrong. :-\
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 12, 2020, 09:15:59 AM
Luckily while on side of the road I was able to shine a light down in the tube to see well  enough that the end of the tube was moving.  I continued to fiddle with it until the rod end engaged the drive.
I looked today after a trip to the tire shop and found where the tube connected to the wench over the square drive head had come loose and was free to move around.  The end had two plastic snaps that engage the wench.  I don't have much confidence it will remain snapped.  Hopefully next time I'll remember how to over come the issue.  If it had been full of rodent dinner I would have had an issue!
I shared with both my kids what happened and gave them a heads up to have a good headlamp in their vehicle so they can be hands free and not rely on a cell phone flashlight.  Also suggested they do a trial run on their trucks.

Not sure why the crazy font... when I cut or paste some stuff this occasionally happens.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on July 12, 2020, 03:15:06 PM
I wonder how many of us have gotten mad at a spare and just cut the cable off so we could get going. I've been there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on July 12, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
I wonder how many of us have gotten mad at a spare and just cut the cable off so we could get going. I've been there.
So have I.  A 2003 silverado.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on July 12, 2020, 03:26:40 PM
2001 Suburban, 06 Yukon. I should check my pickup 2011, and see if it's working. Haven't needed it yet....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on July 12, 2020, 03:43:40 PM
I wonder how many of us have gotten mad at a spare and just cut the cable off so we could get going. I've been there.
So have I.  A 2003 silverado.
GAB
😂😂 Yep! 2001 suburban blew a tire several years ago and had to cut the spare tire cable (Dewalt oscillating tool with carbide cutter worked pretty good) 😂
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on July 12, 2020, 04:15:17 PM
Guys at MDOT cut one off our pickups, because they didnít know there was a little key gizmo that had to go on the end of the jack rod.  It was in the glove box in a plastic bag.  Tim
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on July 17, 2020, 12:05:15 PM
stringing extension cord for light by sawmill yesterday saw a wasp nest under edge of roof of polebarn.  Decided to take care of it this morning. Got out old can of spray and it didnt have much pressure so I got out a stepladder to get close so spray would reach.  Close enough one got me on right hand ring finger.  sprayed nest and stepladder tiped over.   Had a good handhold on 2x12 between poles and was able to get foot behind pole and another on tipped ladder. got down with only a lightly skinned knuckel.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on July 17, 2020, 08:30:48 PM
Remember the Forestry Forum rules concerning LADDERS!

You got lucky!

Glad to hear it wasn't any worse!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 17, 2020, 09:09:33 PM
   Thank you for the baton pass! I have carried it long enough and far enough lately. :D

   Sorry you got dinged up and glad it was not worse. I find a leaf blower works could to locate and defend yourself against wasps.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on July 17, 2020, 09:22:10 PM
I lost my sawmill key today.  Only one that I had :).  How careless and stupid.  Now I am down and cannot saw. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on July 17, 2020, 09:27:33 PM
Okay, Iím beginning to feel Murphy sneaking around!  Iíve been relatively dumb stuff free for too long!  On top of that Iím launching a boat and trailering it at least a couple times every week.  So those of you who understand, pray for me!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 17, 2020, 10:37:49 PM
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) is it a "real" key or one of the "one size fits all" small engine keys?  can you run a jumper to run, and use a screwdriver to start in the mean time?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on July 18, 2020, 12:05:16 AM
I lost my sawmill key today.  Only one that I had :).  How careless and stupid.  Now I am down and cannot saw.
Oh yes you can. If necessary hot wire and away you go
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on July 18, 2020, 08:18:29 AM
Okay, Iím beginning to feel Murphy sneaking around!  Iíve been relatively dumb stuff free for too long!  On top of that Iím launching a boat and trailering it at least a couple times every week.  So those of you who understand, pray for me!
All I'm gonna say is don't forget the plug  :D

My last few weeks have been involved in saving money during this strange time. The Honda threw an engine light and code and was running, if it can be called that, very rough. The code said "leaking intake gasket" which is also code for the much more common ailment on that engine "you just burned an exhaust valve". So $200 of gaskets, a new valve and several days of digging the head out and 6 slightly leaky but tolerable exhaust valves. I lapped and got everything snugged up, only misaligned the cams once and had to do that alignment again. The thing was built by children with tiny contortionist hands, buttoned up and ran, exactly the same. Well dang, a throttle position sensor can do that, Honda in its infinite wisdom used breakaway screws on that to hopefully make you buy a whole new manifold, that ain't happening, so drilled/ground them off and replaced, and it ran exactly the same, DANG!, well O2 sensors, disassemble half of console to get to the connector, nope! The latest round of reloading the parts canon, new distributor arrived yesterday, the current one is only about 5000 miles old but new electrical parts have been consistently inconsistent the last few years... here goes nothing. Glad I'm saving all this money :D.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on July 18, 2020, 08:26:12 AM
If anyone can find a key, it's Danny! smiley_guitarist smiley_guitarist 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: goose63 on July 18, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
Okay, Iím beginning to feel Murphy sneaking around!  Iíve been relatively dumb stuff free for too long!  On top of that Iím launching a boat and trailering it at least a couple times every week.  So those of you who understand, pray for me!
Long time age we put the boat in the water had a beer cooked hot dogs and berggers the boat was full of water it helps if you put the plug in first
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on July 18, 2020, 09:33:31 AM

WDH perhaps the key from your lawnmower would fit......or maybe you just want the weekend off.


Murphy,

There is a guy that launched his boat at the local park and then pulled his Bronco and trailer up on to the ramp and went for a boat ride, when he returned to the ramp his Bronco and trailer was gone and just as he was thinking someone stole his vehicle he hit something with the boat motor and thought that was odd I've never hit a rock here before and why are their lights under the water?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 18, 2020, 09:41:07 AM
I lost my sawmill key today.  Only one that I had :).  How careless and stupid.  Now I am down and cannot saw.
Danny, my 9 year old who has a problem with touching things he shouldnt lost my key a few weeks ago.  I looked around a while, but then thought about my zero turn which also has a kohler command engine.  The key worked perfectly.  Later I talked to Sean about the key and found it on the ground where he had been playing with it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 18, 2020, 09:44:01 AM
stringing extension cord for light by sawmill yesterday saw a wasp nest under edge of roof of polebarn.  Decided to take care of it this morning. Got out old can of spray and it didnt have much pressure so I got out a stepladder to get close so spray would reach.  Close enough one got me on right hand ring finger.  sprayed nest and stepladder tiped over.   Had a good handhold on 2x12 between poles and was able to get foot behind pole and another on tipped ladder. got down with only a lightly skinned knuckel.  
This would have been great video for americas funniest videos.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on July 18, 2020, 09:47:28 AM
I lost my sawmill key today.  Only one that I had :).  How careless and stupid.  Now I am down and cannot saw.
Danny:
Check the washer and the dryer.
Just a suggestion!
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 18, 2020, 10:38:05 AM
   Not that it helps but I keep my keep on my main ring with my truck and house keys so pretty hard to lose. I did break one one time and took my spare to the local hardware and they had a blank to cut a spare. I was surprised but pleased they had the blank. 

   Don't get me started on the drain plug. Been there and done that too often. I once thought about inventing a floating flapper type valve/gate that automatically floats up and closes the drain when that happens. It could even drop down and drain the boat while traveling on plane. I never got around to it but if anybody here wants to capitalize on the idea go ahead - just send me any the money the idea makes. :D Its actually a brilliant idea even if some of you don't realize it. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 18, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
some of the race sailboats have them through the bottom.  in my old sail boats, if you got up some speed you could pull the rear plug and get water out.  you always want to pay close attention to be sure the water depth is getting less and not more.  and for sure do not drop the plug overboard or have a spare if you are out in the middle of the lake.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on July 18, 2020, 10:52:41 AM
I worked at a marina if you could call it that for a short time, the owner didn't have all his apples in one box. One day he backed a customers trailer into the water, the boat didn't float off so backed in further. Still no joy so he kept going! The trailer dropped off the end of the ramp so now he is stuck. He put the Land Rover in low range and hammered it, the boat and trailer came out but the axle was still in the mud. He yelled at me for not ensuring the plug was installed, I got in my car and left.
owner
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 18, 2020, 11:08:44 AM
@sawguy21 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1763) ,

  I thought you were fixing to tell us he forgot to unhook the tie downs. :D (Don't ask me how I thought of that. ::))

@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) ,

  A few months after we first married I took my wife fishing at my dad's place in N. Fla. The stern plug was so worn it would work its way out. Not being mechanically inclined enough to tighten the screw in the end to swell the gaskets a fudge I would first crank up the little outboard and get up on plane till the water ran out then put the plug back in. I finally cut a stick long enough to wedge between the plug and a cross piece on the boat which worked the rest of the day. We fished till dark then were returning by moonlight. I had my wife sit in the bottom of the boat so I could see any Vee ahead indicating a snag. I rounded a curve too close and ran completely aground on a sandbar and the gallon or so of water left in the bottom of the boat rushed forward and wet her butt. I love her dearly but I must confess my wife has a tendency to get excited and exacerbate the problem. She jumped up and started screaming "We're sinking, we're sinking." I told her "Sit down. We can't sink. We're aground!" The water could not have been 3" deep. I had to take my boots off and push us back into water deep enough to float us off."
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 18, 2020, 12:12:04 PM
Inflatable boats like Zodiac and others are self bailing.  They have a one way valve that is just as @WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) describes.  While on plane it lets water out.  The trouble is they can be a little leaky, so if you sit in one place for a long time it will take on a bit of water.  We had trouble with one of our rescue boats.  If we left it pulled up to shore for a long time it would take on water.  Took a few minutes at plane to drain it all out.  

When I worked on Saganaga Lake in MN we would drive the boats all the time with the plug out to drain water.  Once I was doing this and pulled up alongside the game warden's boat just to talk and forgot I had the drain out.  We talked until I realized I had taken on about 8 inches of water.  I all of a sudden said I gotta go and took off.  It took me an hour to get all that water out since the 9.9 merc would not go that fast in the first place.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on July 18, 2020, 12:24:23 PM
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) if you were already married, no real reason to get a flat tire, run out of gas, or run aground.   ;) :) :D  .  the trouble in a sail boat is they tend to lean a bit depending on the tack you are on.  something called the pendulum effect gets worse as the water increases.  not fun unless you want to practice righting your boat and retrieving all your stuff that floats, and saying good bye to the stuff that does not.  sail_smiley
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on July 18, 2020, 11:00:55 PM
Reminds me of when I was a boy maybe twelve years old . Dad and I went to the lake to go fishing. We hadn't been out very long and dad starting swearing (odd for him) reel it up! OK I starting reeling in the line we were trolling and I had plenty out and my lure was bouncing on top of the water as dad took off back to the boat ramp. We beached the boat and dad trotted up to the truck and found the  new boat plug on his dash. He returned with his stainless steel veterinary pump and bloat hose  and I got to take a turn at pumping the water out of the boat. I think of that every time I go out in a boat.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 23, 2020, 07:03:07 PM
Well I suppose it has come back around to my turn. ;D Nothing spectacular, so save your popcorn. I had a customer over today buying pine and of course he wanted the 2x4's on the bottom under the 2x10's. We moved everything he picked his boards and made a pile and I ran up the numbers but he started to negotiate which didn't make me none too happy. The lumber was sutff I had salvaged from logs for my own use and there were several bad sections, so I figured what the heck. I had already cut 20% for the defects I saw, but he tried to get more. Anyway, we settled on a price and I asked him to help me restack and sticker the pile. He came over to grab a hand, but before he could I grabbed a 2x10x12 in the middle reaching over from the side of the pile and placed it in the center of the drying skid. That weight, with my back fully bent and fully extended, did me in. This was just a stupid move, I know better and had help right there, but I did it all by myself. I was done right there. Took me 20 minutes to close up. He left and I came in the house trying to find a comfortable position, but there was none. Laid on the floor for an hour, no good. Laid in the bed until I fell alseep for a couple of hours, still no relief. Finally called my Chiro and have an appt for tomorrow afternoon. I am walking VERY slowly with a cane and it even hurts just watching TV.
 Guess I am out of it for a few days at least.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 23, 2020, 07:56:58 PM
OGH,

   Sorry to hear that and hope the RD can pop everything back into place. I did a neighbor a favor the other day when he wanted ash 2X12X15 for stringers. He wanted 2X12X12 but all I had was 15 so he accepted that. He did not have a truck or trailer and less than 1/4 mile away so I agreed to deliver. I dug through my stack and got 2 nice boards and took them to him only to find he just wanted one. I guess he just needed treads but when he said stringers I automatically assumed he needed a pair and ended bringing one back. They are heavy and I was careful to just load one end at a time so I can feel for you lifting the whole weight.

   My dumb move today was not up to my usual standard and really more of a near miss. I pulled my 5X8 trailer to the front yard with my little JD 750 tractor and ran it out of fuel. I had a full can in my boat house and kept meaning to stop by and get it but never got around to it even when I had the tractor right there Tuesday sawing a customer's white oak. Did you know diesel engines don't like running dry. Fortunately I was able to get mine restarted and it wasn't entirely vapor locked this time. 

   I was bringing the trailer to go get my ATV out of the shop which I did so now when I want to do something dumb I can really do something up to my usual standards. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on July 23, 2020, 09:17:32 PM
 :D You are on a roll!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 23, 2020, 10:13:34 PM
I've heard that you don't want to run a diesel dry, so I have done my best not to do it.  I'm successful so far.  I'm pretty good about not letting my truck get low.  Luckily my tractor has a pretty accurate fuel gauge. I'm afraid if that gauge ever quits working, I might run my first diesel out of fuel.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RussMaGuss on July 23, 2020, 10:56:21 PM
I have a Deere 328 and my dad has beaten it into to me to never ever ever run it out of diesel. Mine has a little manual fuel pump push button that i think is there if it ever siezes up but I sure as heck don't want to have the opportunity to use it 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on July 24, 2020, 09:34:44 PM
Bleed the lines and use heavy duty silicone to start one is what I do.  Some are worse than others. Tim
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on July 25, 2020, 07:30:07 AM
I have yet to have one of those little pumps work when needed. Usually a rag around a blower nozzle in the fill hole and a little air pressure in the tank will get it going again.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tacotodd on July 25, 2020, 08:09:30 AM
Mine: A friend and I were splitting firewood. I canít aim a maul without breaking the handle to save my life, not to mention near the splitting power that my buddy has. Anyway, Iím standing the logs vertical for him cause he hates bending and I hate feeling worthless and doing nothing. So all is going well when one of the pieces of RO decides to almost explode and I caught a good size piece right in my left shin. With a few choice words said (none to my buddy because it was my fault for wrong place, wrong time) I limped out of the way and hobbled around trying to do SOMETHING, almost anything a temporary gimp could do. Anyway, that took place a week ago. It produced a very large goosegg on said shin. After 3 days of pain and no signs of reduced swelling or pain, I go to the doctor. Well I tell doc that I have a history of staphylococcus and she sees the swelling and the pain from said encounter. She prescribes me some antibiotics and Iím about a 1/4 of the way through the course of them. The pain is getting ever so slightly better maybe the swelling also. If I donít see any better sign of improvement after the course of meds has ran ( 3 times per day for 7 days ) I AM going back to have it re-evaluated. 

After 3 days my wife agrees with my assertation (spelling) that judgement of the swelling is better, but the pain so far is only marginally better. Hopefully, waiting will be my friend. We will see how it all goes. I will try to keep everyone updated on this minor problem of mine just because it makes me feel better! 

Bye for now.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on July 25, 2020, 08:34:06 AM
Misery loves company!

Hope pain goes away soon.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tacotodd on July 25, 2020, 09:40:46 PM
Misery loves company!

Hope pain goes away soon.
Me too!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on July 25, 2020, 09:51:12 PM
OGH, you need to buy one of those inversion devices, some are called a inversion table, don't see where they get the name table, used to have some boots, with hooks so you could hook them on a bar and hang upside down, but I have what is called an inversion table, any time I over do it, I go to the basement and hang upside down for 30 to 40 seconds, don't hang too long, the blood rushes to your head, not good, but hanging upside down for 30 seconds will not hurt you, and usually gets me going again.  Some times, I have to do it a few times before it is well, other times once or twice, but any time I over do it, I go hang before going to bed.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on July 26, 2020, 06:59:21 AM
OGH, you need to buy one of those inversion devices,
Yeah I have tried those. They can give a little temporary relief, but I am way past that. Too little, way too late. My first back injury was at the age of 16 when I slid down a mountainside on my tailbone with a 50# pack on my back, finding every protruding rock along my path. Then got whacked across the back with a freestanding car hood and knocked out for 10 minutes(age 18 ), then doing an antenna job on the roof of a 4 floor building with a pitched roof and a 30MPH wind (age 21), then several more I have forgotten about, then sliding down the stairs on my tailbone which also gave me a bonus neuropathy (sp?) in my right leg I still have part of today (age 48 ), and the list goes on and on.
No thanks. I am fortunate to have a chiropractor trained and proficient in several different treatment forms. He is a genius with muscle and bone structures and has different ways to get things back to the way they are supposed to be. It is a balance between treatment and healing time. I went in Friday, and will go back Tuesday. Friday's visit reduced my pain from a 9 down to a 4 or 5. I walked in very slowly with a cane to help, and I walked out carrying that cane over my shoulder.
As we all know, there is no substitute for a good mechanic who knows what he is doing, and why. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on July 26, 2020, 07:20:21 AM
Your back has lived a hard a life.  :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ladylake on July 26, 2020, 07:54:27 AM
I have yet to have one of those little pumps work when needed. Usually a rag around a blower nozzle in the fill hole and a little air pressure in the tank will get it going again.
I install one of these https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Transfer-Vacuum-Gasoline-Accessories/dp/B06X3R9YBN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=fuel+squeeze+bulb&qid=1595764592&sr=8-2 (https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Transfer-Vacuum-Gasoline-Accessories/dp/B06X3R9YBN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=fuel+squeeze+bulb&qid=1595764592&sr=8-2)
on all my diesels that don't have a electric pump,  works great.   Steve
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on July 26, 2020, 08:09:38 AM
I second that primer bulb. My 2001 LT40 super Kubota 42 did not have one and one had to open at the fuel filter, crank the engine, then open at the engine, crank again, diesel running down when successful, etc, etc.

Learned the taste of diesel dribbling out of my mouth.  

Didnt think of the bulb until WM started offering it in a revision, so got one, big difference.  

The 55 Yanmar on the new mill has an electric fuel pump that runs when the key is turned to on, this primes it fine in about a minute.  

Still better to not run out of diesel.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 01, 2020, 08:58:12 PM
Oh boy, did I ever bollock things up today.  Dumb is an understatement.  Dumb, Dumb, Dumb....

I upgraded from my 56 HP tractor to get more HP and to be able to lift more weight and this new tractor has less than 20 hours on it.  Still new and shiny.  Went with SIL to go get some nice white oak logs from a couple of trees that Hurricane David blew down about 5 miles from the sawmill on another piece of timberland that I own.  The trees were uprooted down in the low ground, and while I knew that it was risky, I decided to give it a try.  First dumb move.  I really did know that it was too wet ::).  Got the tractor on the gooseneck and hauled it over there and we cut several logs out of the first white oak.  I did manage to get the tractor to the logs and did manage to get one 8' log out.  The ground as mushy.  Made another try and got the butt log picked up, but as I was backing up, one end of the log hit a tree as the area was wet and very tight with other trees.  I thought that I could ease past and let the log slide a bit on the forks and get past.  Oh no.  All that weight of the log (it was a big log) on the front tires and the tree stopping progress caused the front tires to spin and before you knew it, they were sinking.  Should have dropped the log and went and got the winch, but oh no, decided to make one more try, then it was too late.  The front tires broke through the root mat and from there it was clear sailing to China.  Here is where I ended up when I finally decided to abandon the log. 


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/IMG_3537.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1596327941)
 

By now that little voice coming from my right shoulder said stop, your screwed, but that little voice on the left shoulder said give it another shot.  In the pic, you can easily see the front right tire.  I drove five miles home, got the 8000# warn winch and the 56 HP tractor that I am replacing in an attempt to winch the bigger tractor out.  Oh no.  Not gonna happen.  Just made things worse, actually very much worse, and the tractor did not move back an inch but it moved down further quite a few inches.  Here is the mess that I made.  If you look very closely, you just might be able to see the very tip top of the front right tire, then again, maybe not :).


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/IMG_3538.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1596328274)
 

Having to leave my new tractor down in that swamp was a sinking feeling, but I knew that I had cooked my goose.  I knew that Jake, 60 miles away, had the stuff to get me out, but I was too embarrassed and ashamed to call him.  Then I remembered that the manager of the Pecan farm a few miles away had a 135 HP JD tractor that he used to bring me a ginormous pecan log.  Being Saturday, I knew that it was fruitless to even hope and call and get him on the phone, but low and behold he answered and just happened to be over at the Pecan farm turning off the irrigation pumps (because it had rained like a banshee and was wet, DUH!).  He said that he would be over shortly, and to make a long story short, we build a log raft under the front end loader/pallet forks on my stuck tractor and pushed down with all she had and lifted the front tires up just enough to build a short log platform under them, and after several attempts with him pulling me with a chain with links about the size of your fist, we got it out.  Whew.

Dumb.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RichTired on August 01, 2020, 09:08:07 PM
Well, did you get the logs or not... :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on August 01, 2020, 09:24:51 PM
Many years ago I was logging on my land. I was on the edge of one of my wet holes. It was a hard spot to get at, with the leave trees and the angle I had to get the logs out. I kept backing into the same spot. After the fourth time I knew I was pushing my luck. I winched in the log and got on the tractor and picked up the 3 pt winch and started forward. Did not get far, the rear wheel went down, went past China!! I knew I was in a mess, a mighty mess. I dropped the log and tried to ease it forward with my foot on the pedal that locks both tires in. It came right out!! How was beyond me. I winched the log to me and found another place to back in.
Than another time I was working on the Rocky Highway to the bog. I had a logging crew in there and I was bringing some more rocks to hold up the forwarder. Somehow I got one side off on the highway, than the more I tried to get back on the more I got off. Finally as WDH did, I had to call someone. I called the guy logging that night and told him I would be waiting at the house for a ride to The Bog. Hooked a chain around one of the arms of the forwarder and out it came. I raptured one of the hyd lines under the tractor, so he towed me to the house with his truck.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 01, 2020, 09:31:38 PM
I only got out the one log.  I was exhausted after finally getting unstuck and did not have any more ambition as it related to recovering anything that remotely looked like a log.  The heat and humidity and the mud destroyed any further initiative  :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 01, 2020, 09:32:07 PM
Danny,

   What's the fuss? You have to test the limitations on any new piece of equipment and now you know some of the things it won't do. :D I am glad nobody was hurt and looks like a good pressure washing will have you back where you started. Remember long cables and snatch blocks are your friends.

Well, did you get the logs or not... :D
  That reminds me many years ago when my wife's brother in Alaska was sheep hunting and fell off a mountain and rolled and bounced about 200'. Broke both wrists and had a concussion. 35 miles from the nearest road so one buddy stayed with him and the other 2 hiked out to the nearest road and flagged down a state trooper who called a chopper to go get him. He said his rifle could shoot around corners when he came to a stop. His mom called my wife to tell her about the accident and Becky asked her "Well, did they get anything?"
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 01, 2020, 09:35:04 PM
Long cables and snatch blocks failed miserably.  My SIL looked at me and said, "Well, I guess you have it broke in now".
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 01, 2020, 09:46:03 PM
Danny, no need to baby that new, shiny tractor.  Its best to know its limitations and now you know.  Looks like you stirred up a real soupy mess in that second picture.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on August 01, 2020, 09:52:53 PM
it is always nice to get the new off the tractor so yo are not afraid to scratch it!  glad all is well and we can all learn from your adventure.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on August 01, 2020, 09:57:40 PM
Oh yeah, been there done that Danny. I have had my Kubota buried up to the frame more than once. (Be glad you don't have mud under deep snow!) :D
I've gotten all too proficient at lifting up wheels to get blocks and timbers under them. Make sure to give your new toy a good wash down, check it over, and grease everything. (And don't drive in that spot!) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on August 01, 2020, 11:05:09 PM
WV -  more and more I get the impression that you and your family should really not be around any mountains.  Y'all seem to roll down them quite a lot.  There is a place called North Dakota that would probably be a lot safer for you to live, won't roll nearly as far.   :D

Danny  - I would have come and helped you get out - of course from 1/2 mile away you would have heard Brad Paisley playing "Mud on the Tires"  over and over as I approached.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 01, 2020, 11:20:19 PM
WDH that is a great story and well told, at a cost I am sure many of us can understand. I laughed long and hard, but not at you. No, I was laughing with you. Your humility in sharing your day's ordeal is something many of us have been through in one form or another. I have done similar or worse. The decision making process is predictable (from a distance of time), but when you are there in the moment it is certainly different, and that is why it is so humorous. We (many of us) have done, and decided the exact same things as you did, sometimes with much worse results (not that it could ever happen to me :D).
 Bottom line is this: you did something dumb, you used your available resources and got the rig out without damage and everybody went home safe to fight another day. Around here, we call that a Tuesday. Good on ya. Life is tough, get a helmet.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on August 01, 2020, 11:43:58 PM
Danny,

How many horsepower did it take to get that stuck?

Glad it ended well.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on August 02, 2020, 06:50:55 AM
WDH, thank you for the introduction to your new "horse for the farm".  The old saying, "when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging", comes to mind.  I nearly stuck my Kubota a month ago while fetching logs out of the edge of my pond but it was pointed downhill at a very steep angle.

I am glad you got it out.  The wet, summer heat will sap the ambition out a man.  There is a lot more that goes into producing lumber than sawing the logs into boards.  Many do not understand all the touches, steps, equipment and adversity often involved.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 02, 2020, 07:41:24 AM
Sam,

106 HP did a fine job of getting her stuck.  With HP comes weight, with weight comes trouble, sometimes.  The 2000 pounds of white oak on the forks at the start did not help all that much either.  At least as it comes to weight, with that heat and humidity, I came out of the adventure a little lighter myself.  Looked liked a drowned possum :).  

(BTW, don't tell Jake.  He will play "Mud on the Tires", too, in the 2nd vehicle, the one behind Southside, and he will laugh at me too.  The only good thing is that I know that he has done worse :D).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: customsawyer on August 02, 2020, 07:57:51 AM
I'm listening.
You got to watch my telescopic loader go down in my front yard.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on August 02, 2020, 08:04:48 AM
I always enjoy getting someone else unstuck, but don't enjoy getting myself unstuck.  :D One reason, most times I stay high and dry when I am doing the pulling. I just hand the chain to the one stuck.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Sixacresand on August 02, 2020, 08:35:44 AM
I bet Danny has already snaked that log out of the swamp.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on August 02, 2020, 10:43:14 AM
I have always found that you need a bigger tractor to get out the one you have stuck.  One time I got my biggest tractor stuck, got my wife and long cable and the 4020 to pull it out, and could do nothing.  Went to a ball game that night, told my neighbor my trouble, and he came in the morning with his 4wd Versatile with duals all around, and it came out easy. If your tractor set very long with water over the gearboxes, would pull the drain plug and see if there is any water in there.  Better now than after you start having problems.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on August 02, 2020, 11:20:40 AM
 :D You southern boys REALLY know how to get into trouble. I can't be too smug though, gotten myself stuck more than once with errors in judgement. I once came upon a very stuck dump truck, his buddy showed up with a grader, hooked on and promptly buried it cab deep. The D8H arrived on the scene and pulled them out together with a very large chain. I was waiting for a chain (or the grader) to snap but everything held.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on August 02, 2020, 11:36:51 AM
Danny:
I consider stuck when you have to step down to get to onto the running boards.
My brother and I got dad's MF150 that stuck in plowed ground one day.
Dad was not happy.
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 02, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
There is a lot more that goes into producing lumber than sawing the logs into boards.  Many do not understand all the touches, steps, equipment and adversity often involved.
The man speaks truth. Great quote there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on August 02, 2020, 11:42:27 AM
Nice Tractor! :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on August 02, 2020, 11:52:01 AM
Now in the old days if a logger had done that on one of Danny's tracts..... >:(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on August 02, 2020, 12:43:06 PM
This is how you get found in a peat bog 50000 years from now. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: goose63 on August 02, 2020, 02:14:22 PM
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33477/DSCN1437.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1596391834)
 

There was a big glass door here at least I'm not stuck
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on August 02, 2020, 02:19:06 PM
Hopefully we will get another picture of it all washed and waxed ready to go 👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on August 02, 2020, 02:55:36 PM
May not be the safest thing to do but chain a log to the rear wheels and make it pick itself up then fill the hole under the wheel with something.  Just donít run the chain through the hole in the wheel where the valve stem is.  

Now how many of you all have turned one over.  I guess Iím gonna get raked over the coals for that first tip anyway....so Iíll tell you I have turned over 3 different tractors.  Thank goodness for roll cages and seatbelts.  Only injury I got was getting back on one I rolled to shut of the motor & grabbed the hot muffler.  This is in Mississippi.... highest point is 806 feet.  Tim
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on August 02, 2020, 03:08:16 PM
Banjo donít give him any ideas he is going to have that new Tractor 🚜 trashed 😂
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on August 02, 2020, 03:17:48 PM
Speaking of getting stuck. Itís amazing the flotation of a wide track dozer has compared to a standard. Where a standard track would  be instantly stuck a wide track can work just fine in wet ground 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on August 02, 2020, 03:25:26 PM
I got my 270c cat track-loader stuck after a rain when we were working on the drainage behind the house.  it had rained and a puddle soaked in.  the lugs filled in. so the slippery mud just lubricated the tracks.  My little 850 JD was able to pull it.  just needed to get over the bump at the back of the tread that was like a 90į stop.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on August 02, 2020, 03:34:07 PM
Yes, you can unstick a tractor with a Sweetgum pole:  LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=109001.msg1703110#msg1703110)

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Stephen1 on August 02, 2020, 04:11:48 PM
The best getting stuck is with the groomer for snowmoble trails after it breaks through the ice in the middle of a big  swamp. Its cold, its wet, and then you have to drag logs and brush into the middle of the qaugmire and get them under the groomer, and then disconnect the groomer attachemnt and then go back for it. Oh yeah, do it all before it freezes in as the Temerature is dropping - a million. 
I''l take the mud anyday. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on August 02, 2020, 04:21:20 PM
Yes, you can unstick a tractor with a Sweetgum pole:  LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=109001.msg1703110#msg1703110)
Yep thatís what I was talking about.  Tim
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on August 02, 2020, 04:28:57 PM
We used a pole in another way when I was mowing for MDOT.  One of the guys, and no it wasnít me, went off in a place he should have known better to go and got stuck.  We had like 5 tractors on the job, but he was so far out in the wet area even with 3 or 4 tractors chained together we couldnít get close enough with the chains we had.  So from the chain on the back of the stuck tractor we chained about a 40 foot pole then all the tractors pulling together got him out.  Country boy logic.  Tim
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 02, 2020, 05:51:37 PM
Goose, are you gonna let us know why the glass and rubber seal from you tractor window are broken?

This was not so much as dumb as just slow on the uptake.  I was cutting the grass in my back yard and when I ducked under some pine limbs like I always do I thought they were hanging a little lower than normal.  I have to trim them every year from growth, but something was not right.  It was then that I noticed the tree was laying over on my garage/shop.  When did that happen?  I sure don't know.  Finished cutting the grass and then got out the saw and some young boys to help drag all the limbs away.  Luckily it was only a shortleaf that was about 6" diameter.  There was a group of 3 of them that had grown there.  I left them to be 20 years ago.  I imagine I'm gonna have to cut the other 2 down eventually.  They both lean.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 02, 2020, 06:05:01 PM
@goose63 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477)  I had that happen  a couple years ago the drivers side cab on mine now has a custom plexiglass door, It might scratch but it won't shatter. Dealership ordered it for me. 

 
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) glad it came out ok and wasn't severely damaged, I've seen more than one farm implement  destroyed from being stuck.

I managed to run my vet truck out of fuel two miles out of town, thought I could make it to the next town north. I was headed to check out a used truck for my brother and it was just before 5:00 and the shop was closing. (Found out later it had sold that morning) So I had to suck it up and call in to the clinic for a ride to get a fuel can. Not only will I get a hard time from my office I managed to run  out of fuel on the road just north of my wifes office, so she knew something was up before I got back. I also had someone ask what was wrong with my truck at the gas station after I got back to town. They saw it sitting so they went and checked it out just in case I needed something. Gotta love small towns. I try to never go home less than half a tank, just forgot to stop the night before and didn't notice the dummy light on in time.....   ::), I haven't had this truck that long but I now know if that light comes on you need gas right now.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 02, 2020, 06:16:09 PM
Must not be a Ford truck.  My E light comes on and says I have 50 miles to E.  When I stop to put fuel in, I clearly still have about 10 gallons left in the tank.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on August 02, 2020, 06:21:53 PM
I put an after market 60 gallon on mine so I can go farther and or fill up less.  works great but to take full advantage, you have to go slow or "squirty' to get it full for the last 5 gallons or so.  If you park or slow down on a slope, with 1/8th tank on the gage, it may suck air and die. the tank is 8 feet long between the frame rails.  all the remaining fuel can run to the front or back.  sending unit and pick up is in the middle.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 02, 2020, 08:46:42 PM
Hopefully we will get another picture of it all washed and waxed ready to go 👍
Well, she is not waxed but she is much cleaner.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/IMG_3539.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1596415566)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 02, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
At Jake's place, there is never a Lull in the action :D.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/14370/IMG_1315.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1451696673)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on August 02, 2020, 09:12:46 PM
Danny, Your tractor shines like a new penny.  I do wax my tractor and the sawmill about once a year.

I never would have thought that the ground in Jake's yard would ever get that soft.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on August 02, 2020, 10:16:45 PM
I have done the same thing with my Lull - the nice thing is that extendable boom - 44' worth of push my way back out of the mess I managed to find myself in!!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on August 02, 2020, 10:29:09 PM
Those Lulls are full of surprises.
I've driven Jake's and some others - high but sorta narrow tires, plus HEAVY, like . . . a lot of junk in the trunk!
 Jake does it weigh about 30,000 lbs. ? 
When the boom is fully extended, some are still able to handle some 3500 lbs. on the forks - which needs a lot of weight at the other end.
Your results may vary, but I've never had much luck when taking one of those for a shortcut across the back lawn . . . 😝
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on August 03, 2020, 07:27:24 PM
It seems to me that a Lull so anchored would be very stable picking up that extra heavy load. Of course if you need to move the load that could create a problem

mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 03, 2020, 07:48:33 PM
All the boom pushing was fruitless. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on August 03, 2020, 08:25:04 PM
Had a heifer find a spring one day and she got stuck up to her belly in it, the Lull was the only machine I dated to use to lift her out of there as I could reach from what I thought was a solid spot. Managed to pluck her out and get her on her way, but wiggling the Lull into that spot opened up the ground and it was stuck, so I had to go get the skidder and use the cable to pull it out. Ever try to run two machines at the same time 100' apart? Between swamping under the heifer to fix a harness and running back and forth between the two machines I was done for the day...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on August 03, 2020, 11:07:17 PM
Should have got a few pictures for us 😂
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on August 03, 2020, 11:23:38 PM
A couple of times I was more worried about the news folks taking pictures of me wrapped around that heifer while the fire department plucked us both out...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: customsawyer on August 04, 2020, 06:59:52 AM
Don't know why Danny is comparing our to stuck pictures. You can still see my front tires. :D
Right in front of the lull is where the store is now. It only took the 16,500 lbs. winch with a snatch block and truck hooked to tractor for a anchor to get me out.
Andries you are correct that machine is somewhere north of 30,000 lbs.
Couldn't use the boom to push out as it would have pushed me deeper. Thought about using it to pull out but nothing was in line and I though it might bend the boom.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Patrick NC on August 04, 2020, 08:20:38 AM
Yes, you can unstick a tractor with a Sweetgum pole:  LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=109001.msg1703110#msg1703110)
Probably the only thing sweet gum is good for!😂
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on August 04, 2020, 08:57:04 AM
The gland at the end of the extension cylinder is a weak point under side stress, don't ask me how I know  ::). But it does a great job of shoving a semi out of the mud if the wheels don't have traction enough. I looks like you have outriggers Jake. If you chock the back bumper so it can't sink further I think  the outriggers can be chocked enough to lift the front and center enough to balance the frame, then boom in and out to tip it back and forth to build a bridge of planks under it.

I drove alongside a house one time to lift a unit of roof ply up to the second floor. Tight quarters and I dropped the drivers side wheels into the basement backfill. The load was already up and the rollover switch shut it down, there I was listing closer and closer to the house with a dead machine. Caused a flurry of slinging plywood and it righted enough to light up again, diff lock and it crawled itself out leaving an ugly mess but no house damage. Thought for a minute I was going to make a youtube fail, pure panic  :D

Oh, another one. A farmer talked me into crossing a ford, what he didn't say was it had rained since his last crossing. As my feet got wet I was thinking, this can't be good  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 04, 2020, 10:42:36 AM
You know when you go through your mill re- aligning and adding just a little more down pressure you should adjust the scale accordingly.  ::) ::) ::)

Why was that off at the end? ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on August 05, 2020, 10:28:39 AM
That heifer story reminds me of when I had a cow stuck in the muck in my pond.  Went to put out mineral and found just the head of this cow sticking out.  Went and got my ATV and pulled on her head for about a half hour before getting her pulled loose.  She took the ATV and luckily hit the metal rack when she came loose.  And I had a light weight chain over her head so it would not choke her, she took off with the chain and I never did find it.  Had that pond cleaned out a couple years ago with a huge excavator.  When they were almost finished, water started coming up from the bottom. Great day.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 11, 2020, 07:57:25 PM
9 whole days since the lat entry. I guess it comes back to me then ;D. It occurs to me that most of the things mentioned in these pages are the result of an error in judgement, not all, but most, and sometimes it is a split second decision that causes a post to show up here.
 Not so much with me this time, I had time, lots of time, but I STILL made the wrong choice.
 Last night I backed a load of firewood in the trailer to be stacked and after dinner started in on it. I got it 80% done but the heat of the day sapped the life out of me and I knew it would take me 15 minutes this morning when it was cooler to get it done. So I left the trailer there with the Mule attached. I thought about unhooking so I could put the Mule in the shop, but it's a pain and I was shot, so I let it go. A little bit later it started to drizzle and I was thinking about all the tools in the back of the Mule that would get wet so I checked the radar and sure enough there was a small severe cell about to go by, but it was passing to our north, so I thought "ah, some sprinkles won't hurt nuttin' ". 5 minutes later the sky opened up. Wouldn't matter how fast I moved, it was already too late. I guess the cell was a little closer than the radar indicated. Everything was soaked. Tool bags (3, and two were wide open), my chainsaw and chaps, chain bucket, spare chains, files, and everything else that I use daily including a bag of gloves, PPE, rags and everything else was totally soaked.
 So this morning after I stacked the wood and put the trailer where it goes, I had to take everything out of the back of the Mule and all the items out of the tool bags and lay it in the sun and flip it once in a while. I had been meaning to do a cleanup anyway because it was getting pretty ratty in there, but not quite to this level. Stupid choice.
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 11, 2020, 08:48:58 PM
   Hey, no stitches, no broken bones no dented or broken equipment. Sounds like a pretty good day to me. And you got the incentive and a chance to clean out and organize your tool bags and boxes. No wasted effort there, just a little of Nature's assistance on your scheduling. ;) (And you can still sneeze without pain.)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on August 11, 2020, 08:51:13 PM
not dumb, sorry OGH.
come back when you have damage to expensive item or injury (stay safe and smart to all..)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 11, 2020, 11:15:36 PM
Yeah, no injury (this time), but I still felt pretty stupid because it cost me several hours work. I could have done a normal clean out and clean in about 15 minutes. It could have been avoided easily, but I was lazy and made a bad call. Dumb things come in a lot of forms.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 12, 2020, 09:32:26 AM
OGH,

   There are many degrees of dumbness and this act is right near the bottom. Think of it as an opportunity/training project to work with the grandkids who would love to help Grandpa wipe down and organize his tools.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on August 12, 2020, 10:47:34 AM

When I was in the Canadian Army too many years ago were called these types of things extra training.  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 12, 2020, 12:13:41 PM
We are dry enough(pastures are done,  producers early weaning calves) and there was a chance of rain last night, I thought about leaving my compound miter saw and 15 air dried ash boards outdoors as a rain dance after I got called out last night and couldn't finish the project before it was dark. Put everything in, dry as a bone this morning. :(  My tools and stuff getting wet probably  would have been a positive thing here..
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 18, 2020, 08:19:39 PM
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/55256/20200818_175938.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1597795867)
 
Just something I could do quick before supper while on call...
Cleaning the nubbies off of a pine log before putting it on the mill .....felt something warm run down my leg. ::) Cap came open on oil reservoir on the saw I just filled Sunday afternoon....I think I got more on the boot than the pants. Glad it wasn't hot yet, would've been quite a dance stripping my pants off by the mill. Didn't give it an extra tweak with the scrench, I know better.
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on August 18, 2020, 08:39:21 PM
Well at least you put the cap on.
That's all I am saying.  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on August 18, 2020, 09:09:44 PM
Funny how here in Kansas we usually don't get a drop of rain in August, but we are having trouble getting any hay put up, and it is a month late already, and in Nebraska, where it usually rains, it is dry?  It is really spotty, we got .30 Sunday morning, and a couple miles from here they had 1.4 inches. I drove a silage truck yesterday for the neighbors, and there were places in the field where we were spinning our wheels.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 18, 2020, 09:16:13 PM
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) ,

   Been there. Done that. Got the spots on my pants to show for it. I consider myself lucky when I can even find the oil cap because sometimes I don't.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Banjo picker on August 18, 2020, 09:53:16 PM
Nebraska, was that a stihl?  Donít know what was the matter with the ones with a screwdriver slot.  Iíve poured out gas and oil....just not at the same time.  Tim
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 18, 2020, 10:52:33 PM
I have 2 stihls.  One an older 025 that I always tighten the caps with the scrench.  I've never had a problem other than cursing when my scrench was not handy to remove a cap.  I've used many things to remove a cap.  My other saw is a newer MS291 with the new type of cap.  I've broken one and also put them in wrong, which lead to leakage.  I've learned to use them correctly now and do fine with them, but still prefer the old kind.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on August 19, 2020, 03:05:38 AM
I put a saw with that new style of cap on the trailer one day, turned to walk back to the bench and stood in a trail of oil on the ground leading back to the bench  :-\. Quickly turned back to the trailer and sure enough it's sitting there, cap off, glug-glug-glug... Back to the bench again  ::) I prefer the old style too
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on August 19, 2020, 04:40:09 AM
I bet you will be double checking 😂👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 19, 2020, 07:50:32 AM
Wish it was one of those snappy flip catch stihl saws, no its a 510 Dolmar, just one of my general purpose firewood saws. So it has a nice screw on cap with a little flange to pry a scrench against to snug up or loosen.  So no excuses. @farmfromkansas (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=36643) We are in a terribly dry pocket, a circle of maybe 5 counties goes across the river into Iowa. I heard some folks started chopping silage corn this week and seed corn is going to start coming out next week. (Mostly good irrigated ground so probably  not early really) I have soybeans on the hillside north of my house burning up.  Yard is brown except around the trees I watered and the  flower beds.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on August 19, 2020, 11:50:50 PM
Helping my daughter with a project.  She needed the board just a bit narower. told her I will run it over the jointer.  I was lucky just took the fingerprint off my thumb without breaking the skin.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on August 19, 2020, 11:57:01 PM
WOW trapper that is too close for comfort!  Glad it was not worse.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 20, 2020, 06:42:39 AM
I had one take the fingerprint off my little finger too, and half of the finger tip from the last little knuckle to the tip :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 20, 2020, 09:15:52 AM
Thats a close shave.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 20, 2020, 12:21:12 PM
Well, my turn.  My pressure washer is sometimes difficult to start.  After you pull it a few times, it builds up pressure that needs to be relieved by pulling the trigger on the wand.  If not, the pull cord becomes difficult to pull and can recoil out of your hands.  Well, I pulled it one too many times and the thing got yanked out of my hand and the handle slapped my leg.  My lord did that sting.  That was an hour ago and I still have a perfect shape of the handle on my leg.

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on August 20, 2020, 04:00:30 PM
You slapped your own self.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on August 20, 2020, 04:12:41 PM
FF I could of done without the visual! My eyes can't un-see it!  :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 20, 2020, 04:36:52 PM
FF I could of done without the visual! My eyes can't un-see it!  :o
What....I have hairy legs.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 20, 2020, 05:25:54 PM
   Have you ever considered starring in a B-grade movie? :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on August 20, 2020, 05:54:58 PM
Well, my turn.  My pressure washer is sometimes difficult to start.  After you pull it a few times, it builds up pressure that needs to be relieved by pulling the trigger on the wand.  If not, the pull cord becomes difficult to pull and can recoil out of your hands.  Well, I pulled it one too many times and the thing got yanked out of my hand and the handle slapped my leg.  My lord did that sting.  That was an hour ago and I still have a perfect shape of the handle on my leg.
I'll quote that without the image  oz_smiley.
But thought I'd mention, I always start my pressure washer with the lance trigger/handle held open and half throttle with choke so it doesn't stall it. I don't even get one pull if I don't so I don't really have a choice but might be worth a try for you.
1) I've run my fingers over my jointer too hah... It did nothing at all. I think I pulled the knives later that day and sent them in for sharpening.
2) I rolled a stonker of a log off my trailer earlier this week, thinking I'd parked back far enough that it would hit a mound of soil and not roll past it. Well it missed. Carried on rolling towards the orchard and diesel bowser. In my panic the best solution I could come up with was to stab my log peavy into the ground in front of it, which of course it flattened like a twig. However much weight it takes to bend a log peavy laying on flat grass, that's how heavy this log is =(. Freshly painted high vis red too ='(.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on August 20, 2020, 07:31:23 PM
Still better than toe pictures.....
Sorry about your peavy Josh. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 20, 2020, 08:27:32 PM
   And sure better than finger pix! ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GullyBog on August 20, 2020, 10:11:52 PM
This is hard to admit to.  I locked the keys in the work truck yesterday.  I have a spare, but it was in the center console.  That added an extra hour to the day.  FYI a chainsaw wedge is a great tool for prying open a door enough to get a wire in there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 20, 2020, 10:23:08 PM
   Try that with a high security/hardened vehicle! ::) I did that in Iraq in one of our hardened SUVs. We had some Nat'l Guardsmen who were Policemen in Boston on site and they used wooden wedges like you described till they could get a wire in and push the door unlock button.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 20, 2020, 10:52:30 PM
You guys are making me feel pretty good!
 Given the amount of work, tools, and hazards involved in my day, my goal was to not have anything to confess here tonight. Sadly, that is not entirely true.
 While between trees I was refueling the saw. Did the gas fine, Brandon drove by on the tractor as I was filling the oil, he asked me a question and I looked up and answered him, then put the cap on the oil jug and grabbed up the saw to go back to work.... as the oil ran down my leg. I never put the oil cap back in the saw.
 I am fairly happy that this was my dumbest move of the day (given the above posts, sympathy to all, especially FFOTS, that's gotta smart!). Sorry WDH I really wanted to stay off here tonight, but I have to be honest. I did have a lot of 'unexpected learning opportunities' today, but there were not injuries, close calls, or broken equipment, so they don't count, and shouldn't.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 23, 2020, 07:35:43 PM
   Wow! Over a month with nothing new here. Pretty amazing. 

   Mine today was pretty petty considering previous postings but I pulled my riding mower  beside my truck yesterday to air up a tire using one of those cheap 12V air compressors. Aired up the tire then my mower would not start so I assumed weak battery. It has not been spinning to pert lately. I was in luck and the jumper cables were right under the seat and the battery on the truck was on the correct side so I hooked up but no luck after several tries. I even cranked the truck for more power. I saw sparks and pulled the jumper cables off but too late. I'd let the alligator clamp touch the 2 cables on the mower battery and had melted the insulation off both and even melted the negative post on the mower battery. No huge issue as wife had a Dr appointment this morning so I just rode over with her, then to Rural King, got a new battery and a couple of ring connectors then had to stop at a parts place and get a couple feet of #4 cable. I was able to just put a new ring on the negative cable on the mower and it just barely reached to post on the battery then I cut and spliced about 10" of new #4 cable on the positive cable. Fortunately I had a big wire nut that worked good for that. Taped it up good with electrical tape, crimped the other ring connector on and hooked up the new battery. I tried the mower but it would barely grunt so I decided must be a bad starter. I finally decided to just take it to my new small engine mechanic and backed my 5X8 trailer up to it and dropped the tailgate and was fixing to push it in. I decided to try one more time so got on turned the switch. It grunted but did not start so I wondered ... and I decided did not sound like a starter so put the jumper cable back on and it started right up. Duuhh! I assumed the new battery was charged - wrong. I was a heartbeat away from hauling the mower to the shop for a dead battery. I went ahead and mowed the whole place so unless I have a bad alternator I should be back in the mowing business. Never overlook the obvious. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 23, 2020, 08:18:10 PM
I was just thinking a few days ago that my thread might be dead, but its back!  I guess none of us have done anything done for a month.

I always expect that a new battery will have a decent charge too.  Glad you did not take it in.  I tried to start my mule this afternoon and it did not have enough juice.  I don't drive the thing enough to maintain the battery, so occasionally I have to charge it.  Instead of dragging out a 100 foot cord or driving somehting else over by it to jump it, I decided to put it in neutral and push it to the garage.  That was dumb.  That thing is heavy, but I made it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on September 23, 2020, 08:37:46 PM
I resemble these remarks from both youse guys! I mowed today too and made the mistake of shutting off the mower to chat with a neighbor walking by with her baby. It would not crank when I tried to re-start, too hot. SO I went and ran an errand and it cranked right back up when I returned. Yesterday afternoon I needed the mule to trailer some wood to the shop and it was dead too. Had to put it on the charger for the first time since last winter (plowing runs it down with all the winch work).
 Mowers and Mules.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on September 23, 2020, 10:16:49 PM
Thanks howard just bought a new mower battery to run extra lights on atv.  will put it on charger before i use it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on September 24, 2020, 12:32:17 AM
How's this for dumb...


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Dumb that I heard the saw running lean while my friend was using it. Dumb that I was too lazy to stop him and adjust it. Dumb that its cooked.

Definitely stupid of me to trim the leak test plug on the exhaust port with a bandsaw that has such a crooked weld joint it catches wood at the best of times. Into the bin it goes :(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 24, 2020, 09:35:06 AM
@trapper (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=5228) ,

   Your battery may already be charged but I'd just check it first especially if you don't get the performance you expect. Good luck.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on September 24, 2020, 10:06:16 AM
How's this for dumb...


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Dumb that I heard the saw running lean while my friend was using it. Dumb that I was too lazy to stop him and adjust it. Dumb that its cooked.

Definitely stupid of me to trim the leak test plug on the exhaust port with a bandsaw that has such a crooked weld joint it catches wood at the best of times. Into the bin it goes :(
You wrote: "Into the bin it goes".
I think you should put it somewhere where you can see it daily as a reminder of a past decision.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on September 24, 2020, 04:41:55 PM
I'd have an awfully cluttered shed if I did that each time I had a ballsup xD
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on September 24, 2020, 10:19:42 PM
I'd have an awfully cluttered shed if I did that each time I had a ballsup xD
Oh-Kay, you might have to add an ell to the shed.  But just think once you retire you could write a book about all of your experiences what worked and what didn't.  Who knows you might have a best seller in your retirement.  In any case it would keep you busy for a while, all right based on what you wrote, maybe a loonnngggg time.
Wishing you the very best,
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 25, 2020, 09:19:04 AM
Gerald,

   If we all did that we all might become famous, best selling writers - or we could all end up in the looney bin (or whatever the current politically correct term for it is now) thinking about all our injuries, lost money and time. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on September 25, 2020, 09:38:31 AM
Howard:
I frequently hear of retired individuals being bored in retirement.  I thought that might be a way of helping avoid that fate for Josh and possibly elevate him to the best sellers list.
Oh-Well,
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 25, 2020, 09:58:51 AM
   It might or it might be just enough to push him over the edge. They already drive on the wrong side of the road down there - no telling what other quirks they may have we are not aware of. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on September 25, 2020, 10:58:52 AM
Wednesday we got the main metal on the steep roof we were doing. I made a pair of ridge stools that night so we could sit over the ridge and work the ridgecap, my legs don't have the pinch to straddle the ridge that long anymore. Yesterday morning the rain was already here so we decided to fix my partners woods truck. I towed it up close to the garage and then we winched it up. We spent the day crawling over it and redoing wiring and by day's end it fired up. He pulled forward and shut down, I unhooked the cable and we reeled it back in, which killed the old battery. He was breaking out the charger and I was tidying up. We had been standing on the ridge stools and one was caught under a tire a little bit, (here's your sign!). I snatched it out without thinking. Yup, it had been the chock, and the truck starts down the drive. I guess happily my little ranger was behind it. It knocked it backwards about 5' with an authoritative whump about the time he got to his brake and I wandered around back expecting to see a mess. I think I must have wasted some good karma, time to refill the bank :D. His hitch must have hit my recovery hook. Life's little lessons; Make sure things are as assumed before pulling anything that might be the chock.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 25, 2020, 11:04:21 AM
  It might or it might be just enough to push him over the edge. They already drive on the wrong side of the road down there - no telling what other quirks they may have we are not aware of. :D
Actually our ancestors got it right using the left side of the road, we just had to be different. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jim_Rogers on September 28, 2020, 04:21:56 PM
One of the many lumber products I make is a tree stake. It is 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" x 8' long for holding newly planted saplings in place until the root ball take hold.
I usually make several hundred of these each year for a landscaping business that plants a lot of new saplings.
To point these tree stakes I bought a pointer machine from Hud-Son many years ago:


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After the first engine broke down I got another one from a local power equipment shop. A nice Honda engine.

I have my yearly order to do and I have cut out over 100 stakes to allow for some breakage.
Now to point the lot.

Well, that engine hadn't been started for a while, most likely a year. But it seemed ok and with plenty of gas, I started pulling the starter cord.

Nothing. Cleaned the air filter, mouse nest out, and checked the fuel line to make sure I had the shut off valve in the right position to allow the gas to flow. Which I did.
Pull some more.
Nothing.
Full choke and full throttle, nothing.

Well, then if finally dawned on marble head, this engine had an on off switch. Switch of course was off.
On, second pull; started right up.

Worked up a sweat for nothing.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on September 28, 2020, 04:38:03 PM
I have gotten spoiled with my chainsaw always reverting to the on position. I always forget to switch my weedeater back on.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: breederman on September 28, 2020, 06:30:48 PM
I do that every time I start .y wood splitter.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: dudders on September 28, 2020, 07:07:25 PM
I only have one motor with an off switch like that - catches me out every time.  Lots of cussing and then a red face.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on September 28, 2020, 07:34:53 PM
At work we have a few honda engines. We always say " if it don't start on the second pull you didn't switch it on"
mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Stephen1 on September 30, 2020, 01:39:23 PM
I bought a new weed eater and went with the next model up as it had the revert to "on" kill switch
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on September 30, 2020, 01:53:41 PM
I was trying to fire up my big Onan generator.  Has a start/stop switch.  Pressed the start, the choke kick in and it cranks, and cranks, and cranks.  Won't start.  I try flipping the choke, still won't go.  Its like its not getting any fuel.  Tank is full.  I look around, forgot to open the gas up. Dooh!  Start right up when it has gas!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on September 30, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
Amazing :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on September 30, 2020, 05:33:42 PM
Yeah, they do run better on gas than on air.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on October 02, 2020, 07:49:13 PM
I am not even going to try and explain how I managed to do this not on purpose.  Wedged in there nice and tight.  Big too, 16 feet long and over 20" on small end.  This one snatched the end of the mill over about 18" so I had to replace and re-level the mill which was a total pain.  Dumb.



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The moral of this story is "He who tries to mill big logs without a very stout piece of support equipment with forks had better Not be Dumb."
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on October 02, 2020, 08:54:03 PM
I bet that brought you back to reality.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on October 02, 2020, 08:57:14 PM
Danny, It happens.  John and I are probably going to strap the rear end of our mill to the mill shed (like Jake does) to  minimize the movement.  Sometimes, after dumping a pile of logs on the deck, our mill will have moved several inches due to being bumped by rolling logs.  We have not wedged one like that but the weekend is still young.  The tide seems to finally be going out here but we are due for more rain tomorrow.  Looks like Muck boots are wardrobe items for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 02, 2020, 09:35:08 PM
The way my mill sits the problem is opposite of Jakes so I put a solid block down at the bottom of the front foot and kept it from dancing around, basically blocked it out rather than tied it in.  Sometimes just the head traveling back and forth would make her move.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on October 03, 2020, 07:39:59 AM
Kyle and Jim,

Going to have to strap her down like Jake did on his LT70 so she does not try to run off on me again. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Sixacresand on October 03, 2020, 07:51:41 AM
Friskie dog:   You stepped away from the mill and he reared up and put his paws on the first and third hydraulic levers. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on October 03, 2020, 07:54:14 AM
Close (Not) :D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 03, 2020, 01:02:59 PM
Danny, that sure is a predicament you have there.  Thats one of the reasons I have not bought an extension for my mill.  If I did, then I would be tempted to try and mill 16' logs.  Then I would need a bigger tractor.....well its a never ending story.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: customsawyer on October 04, 2020, 07:52:35 AM
Danny it's better if you do that with a audience. That way when you are trying to figure out how you are getting out of the situation you can read the looks on their faces to see if you're doing it right. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: handhewn on October 04, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
I was milling the nicest black oak log I had ever milled (forty two inch dia.) using my 60" circular saw. When I cut my first clear 1"x24" x 8' board, I got buck fever and mad a bad move in my efforts to immediately run up and look at this beautiful piece of wood. I backed the carriage up to the stop position, swinging my head left as the carriage came to a stop. At same time I was leaning my head out past the safety glass. I do not normally cut 24" wide boards. I was not expecting that 24" wide board to fall over the 12" tall sharks fin onto the blade as was turning my head left. That heavy 60" circular saw with a GM diesel 671 pushing it didn't even flinch as that blade grabbed the board and skimmed it across the top of my head. The board continued spinning through space to the community building across the road. That was first thing in the morning. I was back in school by noon. Ran the mill only once since then 25 or so years ago. But, I'm setting the old girl up again.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 04, 2020, 01:53:13 PM
I'd like to see it, but lets not shoot any more large slabs sailing.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on October 04, 2020, 03:35:31 PM
 :o You are lucky to be here to tell us about it!
:o :o :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: handhewn on October 04, 2020, 04:54:40 PM
I've been close a time or two but I think that was the closest. The two week old baby boy at home convinced me I needed to make some life adjustments. Going back to school changed my life for the better so that sawmill scare changed my whole life for the better where it so easily could have ended it right there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 06, 2020, 10:20:21 PM
I was in my dad's garage today and saw the shelf unit he had on the wall.  It was familiar to me and I looked closer.  I realized it was the shelf above my childhood desk....that I had burned with my lamp and had the fire department come to the house.  This is a different house than we lived in.  Dad had obviously repurposed the shelf.  I looked under it and the burn mark was clear as day.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on October 06, 2020, 11:09:21 PM
That experience  must have made an impression on you!?? :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on October 07, 2020, 12:35:25 AM
I was milling the nicest black oak log I had ever milled...
I was hoping we'd hear the story of the scare soon. Sounds like you might've needed rubber bands around your trouser ankles for your walk home! Don't be discouraged anyway, more wiser for it no doubt. Good luck with firing her up!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 08, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
Knew I shouldnít saw this rotten log in half.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on October 08, 2020, 06:31:31 PM
The Guinness World Record Recording Team will arrive tomorrow to make their measurements and present you with the Certificate.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 08, 2020, 07:54:22 PM
It happens when your sawing logs sometimes ;)
Now how did you get it off the cat track-mill?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on October 09, 2020, 06:37:42 AM
Dennis,

You did a fine job on that one ;D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on October 09, 2020, 07:29:01 AM
It happens when your sawing logs sometimes ;)
Now how did you get it off the cat track-mill?
I took off the tire and three of us toppled it over into the sawdust.
No harm done, to the mill anyway.
No machine there but after some deliberation it occurred to me the mill was portable.  :laugh:
So I set it up again on the other side of the log and milled that sucker into 3" slabs like customer first asked me to.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 09, 2020, 08:26:59 AM
When I didn't have a machine handy, I dragged it from one side of the mill back to the loader side with my suv.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on October 09, 2020, 12:15:25 PM
Good job.  smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 13, 2020, 07:59:49 AM
I would say something dumb happened to me yesterday and not that I did something dumb.  Pulling my camper home from a trip and I noticed the truck surging and making a whoomping sound.  I thought the turbo had gone at first, but then I looked in the passenger side mirror and saw that a trailer tire was coming apart.  There were parts of the tire and the camper flying off.  I slowed down of course, but wasn't about to stop on the interstate hwy shoulder to try and change a tire.  I drove about 3 miles very slow with my flashers on.  That was probably the scariest part of the whole ordeal.  Once I got pulled over on an exit I could see the damage.  The tire was shredded of course, but the wheel well trim was destroyed, the sheet metal behind the wheels was smashed, there was a hole thru the camper floor and two brackets that attach to the frame and help support the floor were heavily damaged.  I got the spare mounted in about 45 minutes and then had to find somewhere to get air, which wasn't easy.  Many places have air, but not many of those places allow for a 36' fifth wheel to pull up to them.  The rest of the trip was uneventful and now I need to get a new tire and find somewhere to do repairs on the trailer.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on October 13, 2020, 09:12:22 AM
Sorry you had that experience.  Glad not injuries, well except camper.  Hope you find a repair person soon.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on October 13, 2020, 10:53:25 AM
Bummer bad way to end a trip.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 13, 2020, 10:54:54 AM
I have gone to G rated tires on my trailers after having the same thing happen several times. I also get them balanced even though the tire place says it's not necessary for a trailer tire. 

They are not cheap, but I have never had one fail either. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on October 13, 2020, 11:31:07 AM
Why would they not balance a trailer tire?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 13, 2020, 12:14:27 PM
I have considered G rated tires.  Maybe I will get them.  They don't always balance trailer tires, because they assume you don't care about ride comfort on the trailer.  My aluminum camper wheels have stick on weights.  I think that is just to balance the wheels.

I am taking it to a repair shop on Friday.  He said it will be at least a month, but its winterized as of 30 minutes ago and we will not use it til the spring, so no real hurry.  I will take it for new tires Friday before dropping it off.  I am going to replace all tires.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on October 13, 2020, 12:25:09 PM
I think the bigger and heavier overall the tire is, the more it might help.  my grandpa, who was a foreman for Boogarts grocery store would buy semi tires by lifting them and bought the heaviest ones.  he was the first driver they had, and later was over about 60 trucks and drivers.  I think most trailer tires weather to death, and are rarely worn out, aside from daily used trailers.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 13, 2020, 12:34:43 PM
Yeah, these tires are 4 years old.  They do not have signs of cracking, well at least the 3 that didn't blow up.  Still, I'll take it as a sign to replace all 4.  I went almost 3 decades of driving without having a blowout while I was driving and then last year I had a blowout on my flatbed trailer and now this.  I will likely get a new model of Goodyear trailer tire that is same rating(E), but they say it is heavier.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trimguy on October 13, 2020, 03:35:15 PM
Iíve always ran E rated tires. Iíve never heard of G rated before ( they donít let me out much😁 ). Are they fairly easy to find ? I will have to ask next time I need some.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on October 13, 2020, 04:06:04 PM
I have heard of heavier trailer tires but have been told they come in limited sizes (like mostly 16 inches).  one year coming home from camp we had 2 blowouts on the same trailer.  only had one spare.  they were ready to be changed.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RichTired on October 13, 2020, 04:29:50 PM
Can you get road hazard for trailer tires? I have it on my truck and insurance will pay for someone to come fix it on the side of the road or haul it to a repair shop.
My son and daughter-in-law had a blowout on her car and she just called AAA and they got it fixed. Down side it took over three hours before the service truck got to them. They had to set on the side of the freeway in a not to nice side of town until they arrived...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: KenMac on October 13, 2020, 06:49:53 PM
Everyone (mostly) on YouTube raves about the Goodyear trailer tires. I personally try to find LT tires in the correct size and ply rating for my trailers. I've not had any problems doing this. I'm not sure what is available for 15" tires in heavy ratings, so it may not be an option. I have to replace the tires on  my 5th wheel soon, so I will find out what is available.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 14, 2020, 03:58:44 PM
My camper has 16" wheels, so I might be able to find an LT to fit, but I think im just going to go up to a G rated trailer tire.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on October 14, 2020, 04:12:04 PM

firefighterontheside

Sometimes I think you and WV Sawmiller are in competition here!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 14, 2020, 06:33:55 PM
Back around '09-'10 I trucked horses coast to coast and ran G's on a couple different goosenecks.  One being an Excess 40'.  I would rotate them every 10,000 miles and they would last just about 100K before the tread was worn off. Pricey, but worth every penny.  Always ran them at max PSI too.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on October 14, 2020, 07:14:09 PM
I think it is kinder to a tyre to run it at its max psi. Less deformation in the walls per revolution, and less fatigue over its life.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 15, 2020, 07:22:25 PM

firefighterontheside

Sometimes I think you and WV Sawmiller are in competition here!!!  ;D

I'll take that as a compliment.  Lol.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on October 15, 2020, 08:41:42 PM
 
Yup, left the tractor stuck but tomorrow will be another day.(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/6A7CC8FF-DC52-43D0-98AE-AD6C260CFE4A.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1602808120)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 15, 2020, 09:30:24 PM
Oh no!  Hoss down.  No mud like that around here.  Its way too dry.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 15, 2020, 09:43:11 PM
Lynn,

   Looks like a minor inconvenience. Nobody looks to be hurt, no major damage to expensive equipment, not even all that embarrassing compared to many of the things we typically see here. Stay safe. This too shall pass.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on October 15, 2020, 09:43:33 PM
Looks like your doing a Southside
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on October 15, 2020, 09:53:01 PM
Speaking of getting stuck. Itís amazing the flotation of a wide track dozer has compared to a standard. Where a standard track would  be instantly stuck a wide track can work just fine in wet ground
Agreed.  But when you get a widetrack dozer stuck youre really stuck.  I built a small pond by accident that way.. Rowing the 6 way blade to back out of it while water filled in from a groundspring i hit.  Wasnt ever gonna dry back up after that.
20k forktruck will also help you find the groundwater. 

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on October 15, 2020, 10:13:15 PM
Keep us posted how you got that bad boy out Mike
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on October 15, 2020, 10:13:33 PM
If its all the same I will continue to use my divining  rods to locate water it's really less trouble than using heavy equipment.

(Geez I probably  just doomed myself to burying my tractor for that comment.)

I did actually bump one of my blade covers off lowering my mill head this evening because I didn't move a couple cants over far enough on the pallet forks.  It managed to dink the blade and dull it on its a way  down falling off.  I should've looked a little closer before I started... just about a quarter inch too close to pass by.....  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 15, 2020, 10:17:10 PM
Looks like your doing a Southside
Hey - I represent that comment!!!   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on October 15, 2020, 10:34:46 PM
The John Deere has a new battery and after jumping across the mouse chewed wires I have it running, I have the logging wince, plus the F250 has a winch so we will get it out.  Marty, Ben, and Collin will all be here in the morning to plant food plots so there will be plenty of help.  
I subsoiled just before Hurricane Delta which is what caused this.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on October 15, 2020, 10:43:27 PM
Well that is one way to cool the oil, just lower the oil pan in some cool water.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 15, 2020, 10:45:35 PM
That makes sense MM.  Have had the same thing happen after ripping ground.   
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on October 15, 2020, 10:53:55 PM
Lynn:
Wrong piece of equipment for putting a pond in.
Gerald
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 16, 2020, 07:18:24 AM
Lynn,

   Next time you plant food plots try going to an area you can plant rye instead of rice. :D :D Stay safe.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on October 16, 2020, 07:56:11 AM
Creating habitat.  The salamanders need a place to live, too :D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on October 16, 2020, 08:14:45 AM
Keep us posted how you got that bad boy out Mike
That was years ago, a 648 skidder did the job.  There is 230ish triaxle loads of fill dirt there now. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 16, 2020, 01:42:29 PM
I built a shed on my tilt deck bobcat trailer. I planned to pull it off the trailer deck by chaining it to a tree and slowly drive away.
We jacked it up and put some 3"x12" oak dowel rollers under the runners and I pulled it off the trailer. very slowly, so we could place some 1 1/2"x6" x12" paver blocks under the white oak runners.

It all went very smooth and the shed ended up exactly were I wanted it.
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I was driving my pickup truck.
Now, here comes the dump part.
Once on the ground, the chain was tight from the shed runners to the tree. I hadn't planed on how to disconnect the chain.
I should have put a chain binder between the tree and the shed up tight so I could have loosened up the chain with making the binder longer.
We had to drive around and try and pull the shed closer to the tree to get the chain loose enough to disconnect.
Well, that didn't work. I pulled the chain hooks right out of the runners.
But, I got the chains back and off the tree.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on October 16, 2020, 02:14:15 PM
It's all in the details.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on October 16, 2020, 04:21:14 PM
Quote
I think it is kinder to a tyre to run it at its max psi. Less deformation in the walls per revolution, and less fatigue over its life.
Having all your trailer tires psi the same is just as important. When one tire is low next to a full pressure tire, heat builds up at highway speeds and that's when they will explode.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on October 16, 2020, 08:39:34 PM
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   John Deere easily pulled it out and then we got all of the seed/fertilizer in the ground and covered.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on October 16, 2020, 08:51:40 PM
Now somebody gets to clean up the Hoss. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 17, 2020, 09:47:28 PM
I hope the Orange said thank you to the green.  Sounds like some Irish Protestant and Catholic story.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on October 17, 2020, 10:15:13 PM


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Well then the Orange had to help the Green out!!   :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 17, 2020, 10:37:22 PM
   Wait, are you telling me that little bitty JD had to pull that big orange beast out of the bog? :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on October 18, 2020, 07:51:24 AM
I built a shed on my tilt deck bobcat trailer. I planned to pull it off the trailer deck by chaining it to a tree and slowly drive away.
We jacked it up and put some 3"x12" oak dowel rollers under the runners and I pulled it off the trailer. very slowly, so we could place some 1 1/2"x6" x12" paver blocks under the white oak runners.

It all went very smooth and the shed ended up exactly were I wanted it.
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I was driving my pickup truck.
Now, here comes the dump part.
Once on the ground, the chain was tight from the shed runners to the tree. I hadn't planed on how to disconnect the chain.
I should have put a chain binder between the tree and the shed up tight so I could have loosened up the chain with making the binder longer.
We had to drive around and try and pull the shed closer to the tree to get the chain loose enough to disconnect.
Well, that didn't work. I pulled the chain hooks right out of the runners.
But, I got the chains back and off the tree.

Jim Rogers
Next time you cant unhook a chain, try driving the pin out of the clevis hook with a little oil.  Unless its guitar string tight this is usually not too hard. Getting something propped under the nearby links helps to stop it from boinging too much.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jim_Rogers on October 18, 2020, 08:39:41 AM
Thanks for that advice.

Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on October 18, 2020, 11:37:44 AM
Anytime bud  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on October 18, 2020, 05:13:51 PM
Wait, are you telling me that little bitty JD had to pull that big orange beast out of the bog?
No, the "rest of the story" was total humiliation.  For payment Orange had to baby sit da Green Children and Reply #1124 above she is getting ready to change da diaper on da little Greenie.  :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: cutterboy on October 20, 2020, 07:12:07 AM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on October 22, 2020, 01:00:45 PM
Pulled the cable out of the 3 pt winch this morning.
I am cuttings down by the road, I want a better view of the meadow on the way down and the field coming up. It's a slight drop off and of course big rocks. One tree slipped behind another tree as I was winching it in. So I thought I will just drive up the hill some and I can winch it up the hill just enough to get from behind the tree. I kept the cable hooked onto the tree and started up the hill. The cable got behind a big rock and I did not really think that would matter. I must of had about 75 feet of cable out and tried to go another 75 feet up the hill. I was almost there when I ran out of cable, 150 feet. Did not cost me money, just time and 6 inches of cable after I cut the end off for a nice clean cut and fit. I went to the tractor shed and looked in the toolbox for the allen wrench, I thought I should have it in there and it was. Not a big deal, but it's nice to have the right size tools when needed.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 22, 2020, 09:28:19 PM
 
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 I rounded the bend on Bent Mountain Road just before 8:00 a.m. this morning about 3 miles from my customer's site and caught a full eye full of direct sunlight. I slowed and pulled too far to the right to avoid hitting any on-coming traffic. Turns out the shoulder was about 12" wide if that, no guard rail and a steep drop off. I skidded a few feet to a stop and ended up resting with all 4 wheels off the ground and resting on the axles. If the truck had rolled there is nothing to indicate I would have stopped before rolling multiple times. I am convinced a 10 year old could have pushed it over as it was just teetering.

 I called my customer to let him know I would be late and he offered to come right over with his big tractor. He showed up 15-20 minutes later with his helper following. He hooked to the rear end of my truck but when he put pressure on it the front slid further over the abyss so we stopped, I called and woke up my wife to call our local wrecker - I did not have their number accessible. She called back with the number and them wanting me to call so I did. Within 30 minutes the guy showed up with a rollback. He assessed the situation and decided we needed to pull the front and back at the same time and hooked a snatch block to a tree on the hillside above. He first started to hook to a dead 10" ash tree and I stopped him and pointed it out so he hoked further up to a sturdy maple, hooked to my truck pulled and promptly broke his new winch cable. I was certain my truck was going over the hill then but it did not. Finally he hooked the front of my truck to his rollback and my customer hooked his big tractor to the rear and they both pulled and eventually got it back on the road. My biggest fear was the truck would just spin on the chain from the tractor and chain from the rollback like a  button spinning on a string. It was an absolute nail biter I would not wish on anyone! There was no apparent damage to the undercarriage or body damage. We spotted fluid on the ground but turned out was just a small amount of gasoline from my cans that had laid on their side. We all left and got to the work site about 2 hours late.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on October 22, 2020, 09:45:04 PM
Well you rolled down a hill recently so you were due to catch a break!!  Sorry you had the excitement.  Glad it turned out well.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 22, 2020, 09:45:21 PM
Yikes WV!!!  Glad to hear in the end it all worked out.  How much of a drop off is right there? 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 22, 2020, 09:58:44 PM
   The first drop off was 10-12 ft with a steep angle. I would be surprised if I had stopped rolling in under 100'. I an sure the truck would have rolled at least 5-6 times.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on October 22, 2020, 10:11:34 PM
Geez man! Holy cow that was close. Sometimes it is better to be be lucky than good. Today you were lucky. Man.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 22, 2020, 10:16:20 PM
OGH,

   That's a fact. While waiting on the wrecker the customer's helper walked over and rested his hand on the truck and I told him "Please don't do that!" 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on October 22, 2020, 10:26:45 PM
Ya know WV - thinking about it you and @goose63 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) would make a great team.  Seems things roll over around you a lot - hard to do that in North Dakota.  I bet Sampson would have a great time.  Some awesome fishing!!  Just saying, perhaps take a look at places that are less gravity impacted than where you are now.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on October 22, 2020, 10:47:17 PM
Iím glad it was no worse than it was, WV. That sun thing can be quite a problem. Something about this time of year right now seems to put the sun at that low angle at the time we are all out traveling in the morning and the evening. Starting a couple hours late isnít so bad considering the other possibilities. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on October 22, 2020, 11:29:53 PM
Whew!  Glad it turned out okay!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on October 23, 2020, 07:32:50 AM
Howard, you are starting to have too many new adventures. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on October 23, 2020, 09:04:54 AM
might need a salve for the bottom of your truck "between" the tires.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on October 23, 2020, 10:19:41 AM
Dang  not a good way to strart a day!!  Glad all is well.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on October 23, 2020, 07:46:15 PM
Yikes.  Glad you did not go for a roll.  I've seen a lot in your predicament and I've seen a lot that went on down the hill.  I'm a battalion chief and when I'm off sometimes one of my captains fills in as the BC.  One guy always has the worst calls when he's filling in.  A few years ago on an icy day he was at a wreck very similar to yours.  The driver of the wrecked vehicle was sitting in the wrecker while his vehicle was being pulled.  My captain was standing there watching and noticed that wrecker started to move on the ice.  He yelled at the person sitting inside to get out.  The guy jumped out right before the wrecker went right over the edge and rolled at least once.  Then they had to get one of those huge wreckers to get the tow truck out and the original car.  No one was hurt.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 23, 2020, 08:08:29 PM
   While I was sawing today my customer had a friend come over and he was describing my accident/near miss to him and the man told us a couple years ago a guy went over the hill in or near the same place under the same circumstances - blinded by bright morning sunlight, no shoulder on the road, no guard rails and a steep bank.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on October 23, 2020, 08:23:56 PM
I had a similar one a few years ago. A winding road above a creek, I was within a mile of the job, a truck was coming at me with a gooseneck on, he was in that "close to home and just hopped in the truck" morning fog and was taking his half out of the middle so over the side I went. He's a good guy and usually a good driver, he drives for one of the nearby dairies but we all space out every now and then. He stopped, very apologetic and tried to pull me but it was obvious real quick that was going to roll my truck so we went and got my client with his truck and he chained to my front and kept it from going down while the neighbor pulled on my rear. Definitely not the way you want to start the day.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on October 23, 2020, 09:53:15 PM
   Sounds similar to mine as to the recovery. Wrecker guy had his rollback hooked to the front and tractor to the rear. As the tractor pulled the wrecker eased off the rollback but kept tension on it all the time.

   I used to think it was funny when Danny Devito or Joe Peshi of someone would run off a bridge or something and just be teetering there and breathing a big sigh or relief then a fly would come light on the car and would be just enough to make it fall on over. I will think of yesterday morning every time I see one of those movies and they probably won't be quite as funny as they used to be.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 26, 2020, 08:46:09 AM
felt like I was in the zone, finishing the bar tops for my cousin Mike.  was kerfing the miter joint, and felt like my blade was too coarse and dull, so got a new carbide tipped high tooth count blade.  hade to make temporary brackets to pull it together.  got bolts to go through the holes to pull together.  My Dad, Great uncle Bill and Uncle jerry would be proud that I used some scraps of an old bed frame to make the brackets.  getting stuff done and taking names ect. ect.
after changing the blade and pulling miter together, I made the cut, but had not tightened the saw base.  


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cut through the bolt with a new blade.  OMG was only part of the phrase I used.  


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It was otherwise going well.  I had to flip the tops to put the brackets on the bottom.  these will be used to glue it up on site and then removed.  I though no big deal to have some holes on the bottom.  could only flip one at a time since the miter points would be in the inside corner.  


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looks pretty good.  oh and could not find the pic where I forgot to flip the second top, so I have some holes to fill on what will be the top of the bar.  should make for a good story.  OMG.  There, now don't the rest of you feel better now!


:(   :)    :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 26, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
Well that might shorten sawblade life a little. Its just the first funny story that bar top will hear, may it have many more....looks good btw.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on November 26, 2020, 09:49:20 AM
Good to have a new blade on if hitting metal, better chance it doesn't ruin wood.  smiley_thumbsup
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 26, 2020, 10:04:10 AM
It cut right through that bolt, we will see how it cuts wood now.  I will turn to artistically filling the holes.  I thought I was on a roll, and going to get this done,  I must have been dreaming.   ;) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on November 26, 2020, 10:09:10 AM
Well, everyone knows new blades are attracted to metal. :D Glad you didn't get hurt. I am still not quite clear on how this 'kerfing the cut' thing works, but I am getting closer to an understanding. You are just lucky your saw didn't rip out of your hand and take flight. 
 As for the 'extra' holes, you could make some brass plugs to pound in and call it an 'accent'. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 26, 2020, 10:27:02 AM
so as the tops dried. the original miter I cut, no longer fit.  the back of the bar tops also were out of square.  so I made a cut to square the back.  took a wedge off that was a taper from zero to 1/4 inch each side of the miter.  then you butt the joint snug, thus the reason to get the brackets in place.  they are temporary and will be used to glue the joint during installation.  The method I use for cutting is the straight edge and a dewalt 18 volt circ-saw.  so measure the offset from the edge of the saw base to blade.  the goal is to have the blade go down the center of the miter.  you saw down the miter using the straight edge.  it removes the high spots and any variation in angle or direction, will match the other side, even if not perfect.  so a tight miter by cutting both sides at the same time.  it is caller kerfing as the cut is the kerf of the blade, and evens things up along a long miter.  it is like stacking boards the way they come off the saw, so you match variation in the lumber such as a wave.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on November 26, 2020, 10:28:46 AM
Doc:
You either had a very good blade or that bolt was a foreign made grade 0.
My medical expertise is very very close to zero, but me thinks you need more sleep.
I wish you and everyone a great Thanksgiving.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 26, 2020, 10:35:01 AM
zinc coated Lowes bolt, new blade.  I actually got sleep, felt like getting stuff done.  about 4 projects going on.  just not my day!  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on November 26, 2020, 10:42:19 AM
Well look at it this way - at least you are posting this on a forum that is related to your hobby, and not one related to your profession!  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 26, 2020, 12:27:26 PM
I was just thinking about my "did something dumb" thread this morning and realized it hadn't been used in quite a while.  I was thinking it might be dead.  Not that we all were not doing dumb things regularly, but maybe just didn't feel like posting about it.  So, sorry about this Doc, but thanks for resurrecting my thread.  When I have had to fill mistakes like that,  I have drilled a hole with a forstner bit and then cut a plug from similar wood with a plug cutter.  Thats the best way I've found to try and hide it.  Of course the other option is to use a contrasting wood and make it look like you always planned it that way.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 26, 2020, 01:13:44 PM
It's not going away anytime soon, I went out earlier to put round bales out for the critters and decided that I should move some of the firewood  side dump load my buddy had dumped along the driveway.  I don't have a grapple and just balance logs on my pallet forks. So a little 4 inch piece of Hackberry flips in behind the frame of the forks, ok no big deal it will slide off to the side if I raise my bucket as I back up. Well sort of ...for some reason it flipped funny and traced it's way along the loader arm and bounced off the flasher bracket on the cab side, some how didn't break the light housing  but bent it a little. ::)  Could've broke the window.  ::) I was too worthless to get  down and flip it off to the side, I was quitting and hauling one more bunch to the stack to go check the smoker for dinner. Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving and a safe one too?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 26, 2020, 01:32:30 PM
so tried kerfing and it went fine, and here is the pick of the un-needed bracket holes.  i might take  hollow punch and make a filler from thin scraps i have,  the holes are less than 1/8th inch.


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It will be kinda artsy.  lots of different tones and colors on these pieces.  even thought of mixing epoxy paste at differing amounts from tan to black, and maybe drawing some lines (grain) in with a sharpie. 
@tule peak timber (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=25190) .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on November 26, 2020, 01:58:47 PM
Just claim a committee was involved with the design and the value of the piece will sky rocket.  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 26, 2020, 02:14:43 PM
Yeah, small holes, so wouldn't want to make holes bigger just to be able to use plugs.  Tough call.  Maybe whittle some little pieces from scraps of the wood with matching colors.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: tule peak timber on November 26, 2020, 03:29:22 PM
Just claim a committee was involved with the design and the value of the piece will sky rocket.  :D
The claims need to be well founded, and the committee large, for a ballistic vertical trajectory . Sometimes you can vie for the committee---- sometimes it conscripts you .
Have a good Thanksgiving. WOC
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: caveman on November 26, 2020, 07:18:25 PM
Doc, I like the top and your kerfing/clamping method.  Also, it is refreshing to see a picture of your workspace with a little clutter.   Happy Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Cruiser_79 on November 27, 2020, 03:10:14 AM
Yesterday evening I thought to saw a few more boards of that red Ironwood. I lowered the clamps for ending on a 2'' bottom board. Probably it wasn't a good idea to saw the upper boards with the clamps that low... The blade pulled the beam out of the clamps and smashed the sawblade guides  :-\ 


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The 22 kw engine stopped immediately, that was quite a bang..
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 27, 2020, 02:01:36 PM
Dang.  Thats a bummer.  How long will that set you back.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 27, 2020, 02:10:40 PM
My wife called me at the firehouse this morning and said the power was out.  She was not happy, as she could not shop black friday deals online.  We determined that the neighbors had power, so I told her to check the main breaker.  It was fine and not tripped.  Next I told her to check the overhead lines and the transformer.  In particular I told her to locate the switch at the transformer and see if it was open.  She was unable to identify the switch so she sent me a picture.  I could clearly see the switch was open.  Next I asked if a limb had fallen on the wires.  We were on phone this whole time together and she paused a moment and then said, "there's a dead squirrel here".  Power company arrived in 30 minutes and reset the switch.  Crisis averted....except for the squirrel.  RIP Rocky.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on November 27, 2020, 03:18:23 PM
My mother RIP had a crow do that, all his buddys showed up for a wake then left so she could dispose of the well cooked carcass. :D
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 27, 2020, 03:34:55 PM
I am surprised after the wake, they did not eat him.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: tule peak timber on November 27, 2020, 04:34:37 PM
Reminds me of a kid that was repelling off of the big steel transmission towers over the Conejeo grade about 25 years ago. The wind blew him across the wires and there he sat stunned on a steel girder , no clothes, no hair, no skin.Quite a photo of him just sitting....If I can find it on the internet I'll post.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 27, 2020, 04:57:04 PM
Yikes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on November 27, 2020, 08:19:48 PM
I am surprised after the wake, they did not eat him.  
Overdone.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 27, 2020, 09:12:25 PM
I am surprised after the wake, they did not eat him.  
My wife is not good with dead animals, much less eating them.  Several of her friends today have sent her recipes for squirrel.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 27, 2020, 09:28:34 PM
I was talking about the crow, but i hear squirrel is good too.   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Cruiser_79 on November 28, 2020, 06:31:31 AM
Dang.  Thats a bummer.  How long will that set you back.
Yesterday I did some bending and welding, hopefully I can run today after some aligning. Fortunately no squirrels were harmed with this accident  :D  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on November 28, 2020, 09:44:30 PM
Firefighter,
Hopefully they placed a animal guard over the bushing to keep a repeat from happening!

Tell your wife to shop fast.  Rocky's friends may come looking for the same food or route he did!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on November 29, 2020, 11:32:14 AM
 
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This incomplete pretzel used to be the top link off the Category 2 three point hitch on my tractor. 

I was plowing my garden and hooked a rock with the 14Ē two bottom plow.  At least this part gave instead of the 50 year old plow.  The front tractor tires were 4í off the ground before I pressed the clutch pedal.  It was the kind of excitement I donít want to have again!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on November 29, 2020, 11:41:29 AM
That is outstanding and not dumb at all.  It is the most interesting top link modification I have ever seen.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on November 29, 2020, 01:25:12 PM

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This incomplete pretzel used to be the top link off the Category 2 three point hitch on my tractor.

I was plowing my garden and hooked a rock with the 14Ē two bottom plow.  At least this part gave instead of the 50 year old plow.  The front tractor tires were 4í off the ground before I pressed the clutch pedal.  It was the kind of excitement I donít want to have again!
You might want to consider purchasing a trip beam plow.  It helps avoid doing wheelies in rocky ground.
You need to hang that top link in your shop as I think it will make for an interesting conversation piece.
Glad you are ok.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 29, 2020, 02:03:54 PM
Firefighter,
Hopefully they placed a animal guard over the bushing to keep a repeat from happening!

Tell your wife to shop fast.  Rocky's friends may come looking for the same food or route he did!
I was home yesterday and right before I got rid of the squirrel that was still laying there, tail sticking straight up in the air, whole underside burnt to a crisp, I looked at the switch.  All that they did was close it.  Im sure it will happen again, but hopefully it will be another 20 years.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 29, 2020, 02:05:59 PM
I guess its a good thing the top link crumpled, otherwise the front would have been higher than 4'.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on November 29, 2020, 02:48:24 PM

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This incomplete pretzel used to be the top link off the Category 2 three point hitch on my tractor.

I was plowing my garden and hooked a rock with the 14Ē two bottom plow.  At least this part gave instead of the 50 year old plow.  The front tractor tires were 4í off the ground before I pressed the clutch pedal.  It was the kind of excitement I donít want to have again!
You might want to consider purchasing a trip beam plow.  It helps avoid doing wheelies in rocky ground.
You need to hang that top link in your shop as I think it will make for an interesting conversation piece.
Glad you are ok.
GAB
Thanks I am ok for sure!  I was quick to the clutch and got the front of the tractor down.  
It might be cheaper to dig out the rock!  😂  Have you seen two bottom plow prices?  $$$$$. It will be even cheaper to just leave that part out of the garden.  Thankfully the rock is near the edge.  
I only plow my garden and two or three food plots a year.  I often use a 6í rotary tiller but decided to subsoil and plow this year.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Durf700 on November 29, 2020, 05:41:13 PM
well....  since my mill is down waiting on parts as of wednesday.. I figured I would bring home the new Kubota and get my tire studs installed!  that went great and so I decided to install the quick hitch on the tractor as well.. this is where it went bad.. I was just about happy with the quick hitch settings and decided to pull the tractor from the pole barn into the garage to tighten up the bolts and then go in and enjoy football..  thats when I heard a very loud BOOM!!!    I didn't shut the door on my 4 week old MX5400 cab tractor and the glass door cought the center of my pole barn and shattered!! 

I thought I was gonna throw up!  its been a rough few days with the mill and now the tractor..  so I guess I will be trying to order a new glass door tomorrow!  the bad part is that they are super behind right now and I probably will be waiting a long time for the new door.. 

no good!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on November 29, 2020, 05:48:38 PM
When it rains it pours! I am due to pull a bonehead stunt any time now and getting paranoid. :D
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on November 29, 2020, 06:08:49 PM
hope you get the new door by spring.  :snowball: :( I hate it when that happens
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on November 29, 2020, 06:43:51 PM
Do you have the Kubota insurance? I know when I financed my tractor it was required to pay for a policy to cover accidental damage. As an example the dealer told me he had a customer try loading logs with his new tractor, and at full lift the logs rolled backwards down the loader arms, smashing the steering wheel and dash. Luckily he was OK.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on November 29, 2020, 07:23:00 PM
Oh man.  That one is hard pill to swallow.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Durf700 on November 29, 2020, 07:27:04 PM
No. I have regular insurance.   I'm hoping to be able to buy the glass and just install it myself.. I saw a few companies  that sell glass for tractors. Im gonna call them in the morning. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on November 29, 2020, 07:37:48 PM
Ouch, I hope it isn't one of the curved glass ones.

That top link looks impressive, I've bent some but that takes the cake. I cracked the tranny cover on my old MF when an iceberg style rock flopped back down on the forks, about got a lift cylinder enema out of that one  :D. Google Dexpan if you ever need to bust a big rock, we call it non exploding dynamite. It works good under houses and such when we hit a troublemaker.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on November 29, 2020, 08:55:14 PM
I picked a custom plexi glass cab door window instead of glass when mine exploded a few years ago. Did it slamming the door shut not sure exactly how.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on November 29, 2020, 09:25:34 PM
Between power line roasted squirrel and a smashed tractor cab door that little top link incident seems rather tame.  As impressive as the bends are in the top link, it clearly lacks the humor of scorched rodent and certainly lacks the fiscal pain of the broken glass.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Durf700 on November 30, 2020, 04:55:54 PM
I was pleasantly surprised today... the glass in 418.00 plus tax and shipping through Kubota.  the aftermarket glass companies that claim to have the glass dont carry any of the smaller tractor cab glass like my little MX 5400.. now just waiting to hear back as to how quick I can get it from Kubota....  really hoping to be able to get it within a few weeks!  I thought it would be more money... not that thats cheap but it could of been worse.

yes, I would much rather have your bent top link!!  lol
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on November 30, 2020, 07:23:31 PM
All in the aftermarket top link was about $47.00.  Thatís about 1/10 the price of the cab glass and sort of boring compared to electrified squirrels and crows.

Didnít price the Kubota top link.  The aftermarket unit is beefier but doesnít have grease fittings.  Zerks are easy enough installed if I need to but probably not worth the trouble.  Grease can be applied if necessary.

Glad the cab glass isnít stupid expensive.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on November 30, 2020, 07:34:29 PM
Glad to hear it wasnt that bad.  Get it fixed like new so there's no reminder every time you open it. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on November 30, 2020, 08:35:20 PM
All this talk about electrified squirrels is bad luck.  At 4:45 p.m. today, a squirrel fried himself on the transformer on the service pole to my house blowing the line fuse on the main powerline 1/2 mile away :).  From 200 feet away and in the house, I heard the POP when the power went out.  And, if I had a glass door on my tractor, I would have probably broke that too :).  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on November 30, 2020, 08:50:35 PM
Ouch, I hope it isn't one of the curved glass ones.

That top link looks impressive, I've bent some but that takes the cake. I cracked the tranny cover on my old MF when an iceberg style rock flopped back down on the forks, about got a lift cylinder enema out of that one  :D. Google Dexpan if you ever need to bust a big rock, we call it non exploding dynamite. It works good under houses and such when we hit a troublemaker.
Just watched the Dexpan YouTube video.  Thatís impressive stuff for rock breaking!  Is it expensive?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Kwill on November 30, 2020, 09:18:56 PM
I was pleasantly surprised today... the glass in 418.00 plus tax and shipping through Kubota.  the aftermarket glass companies that claim to have the glass dont carry any of the smaller tractor cab glass like my little MX 5400.. now just waiting to hear back as to how quick I can get it from Kubota....  really hoping to be able to get it within a few weeks!  I thought it would be more money... not that thats cheap but it could of been worse.

yes, I would much rather have your bent top link!!  lol
Did you try through a&i? I work at a ag and auto parts store and we order alot of cab glasses through them
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on November 30, 2020, 09:24:39 PM
It's been a few years but I think it was about a hundred bucks a box for the dexpan. We hit a granite boulder underneath a house about the size of a volkswagen. It took 2 boxes but was about the only way to break it up under there. Basically drill it just like you were going to shoot it. The Hilti drill was about $1200 but they can be rented. I've used it a whole lot since then, in fact today. I'm under another house that is on vertical shale which is too soft for the dexpan. The dexpan only works on hard rock. By the sawmill a couple of hard sandstone boulders fell into the creek this summer pretty much right in front of a 3' culvert that are too big for the Lull to lift so I'll probably get a couple of boxes and split them when I have time.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Durf700 on December 01, 2020, 03:13:27 PM
I was pleasantly surprised today... the glass in 418.00 plus tax and shipping through Kubota.  the aftermarket glass companies that claim to have the glass dont carry any of the smaller tractor cab glass like my little MX 5400.. now just waiting to hear back as to how quick I can get it from Kubota....  really hoping to be able to get it within a few weeks!  I thought it would be more money... not that thats cheap but it could of been worse.

yes, I would much rather have your bent top link!!  lol
Did you try through a&i? I work at a ag and auto parts store and we order alot of cab glasses through them
I was only able to find the glass right through Kubota..  the good news is nothing is on backorder so my rep said it should be in within 10-14 days!!!!  this makes me feel much better!!!    I even ordered new weather stripping and steel handle that got bent that bolts to inside of the glass door.. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 01, 2020, 03:35:41 PM
OH man, what is wrong with squirrels these days?  Don't they know to be careful around energized electrical equipment?  I do have a photo of barbecued squirrel, but decided it was best not to post it.

Less than $500 to fix the door seems pretty good.  When I did my move a few months ago and broke both of my curl cylinders that cost me $650 and I was happy with that.  My cylinders needed to be rebuilt anyway, because they would sag down in a matter of minutes. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 01, 2020, 07:13:34 PM
For my latest trick.....I was so mentally exhausted last night after days of trying to keep a fire department manned that I accidentally took my sons medicine.  Wife asked me to get it ready for him.  Got the 2 pills out and then my brain just said, "you're holding pills, it must be time to take medicine"  When she asked if I had his pills ready, I was like, uh oh.  I remember taking a drink of water, but not actually swallowing the pills.  I went to bed right after that.  The med was not a concern for me.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on December 01, 2020, 08:12:37 PM
When you get tired bad things can happen.  Hopefully you will get some time off and recover.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 05, 2020, 08:26:59 AM
So just to get this back to the top for the weekend... I just about broke the recoil rope on my 390 Honda on the mill.  I saw the frayed end pop through the grommet at the end of the pull last time I started the motor. Now I haven't done it yet....so this is just to reinforce the fact that if I have daylight left after work today I need to fix it FIRST before I absent mindedly try to start the mill.  Just trying to stave off a potential not so glorious moment and the use of those special words. :) 

FFOS- hope you've gotten some rest.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 05, 2020, 05:24:36 PM
 
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It has taken a few weeks to work up the humility to share this because d4mn it it WAS SERIOUSLY dumb!

So in August the Doctor and I were fortunate enough to add a new boat to the stable.  

About six weeks ago I installed a nice boat cover on the boat but I didnít have enough 1Ē nylon straps to completely secure the cover.  I bought additional strapping and plastic buckles in a kit to secure the cover.

Of course I had to cut the straps to length since the material came on a 50í roll.  The ends needed to be burned/melted so they wouldnít fray.

I decided to use my propane torch to melt the ends and pinch them with pliers to provide a uniform end.   It didnít work out too good.  I worked my way around the boat cutting straps, burning the ends of the straps and pinching the ends with pliers.

Apparently one strap didnít get put out completely, it smoldered and reignited.  Did I say the cover was on the boat?  

A couple minutes later as I worked on the opposite side of the boat, I smelled smoke.  When I checked, the cover was on fire.  It wasnít a big fire and thankfully it didnít catch the boat on fire.  I put the fire out with my insulated shirt but managed to burn both hands pretty badly.  It burned a section of cover about 40Ē long and 10Ē wide.  The cover material is acrylic and the straps are nylon with plastic buckles.  All that synthetic material was a molten sticky plastic that burned my hands and left 2nd and 3rd degree burns.

In retrospect I should have cut all the straps to length, pulled off the boat/cover/trailer and melted the ends of the straps on a bench.  Did I say DUMB.

Thankful it didnít turn out worse....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 05, 2020, 06:24:30 PM
Dang, man, I hope your burns have completely healed.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Durf700 on December 05, 2020, 06:37:47 PM
ouch!!  that sucks...  one of those things that you could do 99 out of 100 times and not have that problem...  hope your hands heal up quickly! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on December 05, 2020, 07:32:19 PM
Glad your ok 👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on December 05, 2020, 08:33:43 PM
Not good!  Hope you are healing well and no infection issues.  Think of the fun times next summer at Ocracoke and hopefully the pain will ease.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on December 08, 2020, 09:29:32 AM

If it makes you feel better, I can completely see myself doing the same thing. I'm glad you didn't lose the boat.

Heal fast. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on December 08, 2020, 03:46:15 PM
Sorry to hear sawyerted.  Hope you are feeling better.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 08, 2020, 05:18:37 PM
So I have been at this FD for 27 years.  I can't tell you how many times we have been dispatched to a fire at a crematorium in the middle of the night because people see smoke and flames coming from the furnace stack.  We always get there and disregard all incoming trucks.  Well, this morning at 5 that all changed.  Heavy fire and smoke in the building.  Within 10 minutes of getting there there was fire coming thought the roof.  As the incident commander I struck a second alarm when all firefighters on scene were working.  In about 45 minutes we had the fire under control.  Couldn't save the "occupants", 23 previously deceased bodies.  The only one that burned was the one that was actually being cremated.  Our guys did have to move 9 bodies to a different part of the buillding that was unaffected.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 08, 2020, 05:28:10 PM
well, I started to push the like button, but always feel that it implies the wrong sentiment in statements like this.  even though the folks were already gone, it would add insult to injury to the families to have their family members bodies unceremoniously burned.  thanks for being there with all due respect.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Durf700 on December 08, 2020, 09:55:56 PM
good news today!!  I got the call that my glass, seal and new door handle was in from Kubota!!!  I ran over and picked up on lunch break and just finished installing my new glass and stuff on the tractor!  I feel much better now to have the door fixed!!  :)   I didn't even go out to the barn and look at the tractor till tonight when I fixed it..  now I can hopefully get back to some milling this friday!

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 09, 2020, 04:52:29 PM
Itís always a relief when the reminder of an accident is gone!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Vautour on December 10, 2020, 06:12:38 PM
Man that's a nice boat... who says sawing lumber doesn't pay 8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Durf700 on December 10, 2020, 06:44:20 PM
Itís always a relief when the reminder of an accident is gone!
did you get a new tarp on that nice boat yet?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 10, 2020, 07:20:54 PM
The new boat is only possible for three reasons.  One is my dear wife retired in December of 2018 only to go to work part time in August of 2019.  Sheís an adjunct faculty member at a nearby university.  The second is sawmilling does turn a bit of profit.  The third is my banker is loaning money like crazy!  😜 

The boat cover burned section is about 12Ē x 40Ē once I cut the burned area out.  My daughter is sewing a patch we will be sewing to the bigger cover some time next week.  The semi custom cover was $500 so a fix will be easier than replacement. 

FWIW my hands have healed considerably and Iíll be back to sawing next week.  No infection but apparently small bits of molten plastic was embedded in the burns.  My body has been rejecting those little bits of plastic.  It IS gross! 🤢 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on December 12, 2020, 08:32:01 PM
Well, this is embarrassing! I needed to make a call this morning and couldn't find my phone. I retraced my steps after taking the mutt for a walk but nothing. I saw a friend active on facebook so asked her to call me. I heard it ring but couldn't locate it so finally sat down on the easy chair and felt a vibration in my butt, I was sitting on it! The DanG thing was in my hip pocket with my wallet. I have no idea why I put it there so blamed the dog but she didn't care.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on December 12, 2020, 09:31:45 PM
sawguy 21 Sir:
After blaming the dog, I hope you fed the pooch an extra scoop and sure am glad there was no blood letting or trips to the hospital.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 13, 2020, 06:17:59 AM
I live by the old saying ďa place for everything and everything in its placeĒ but only on the Tuesday after Easter. 

I feel your pain!  Looked for my hunting rifle this morning for a minute or so until I realized it was on my shoulder 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Chuck White on December 13, 2020, 08:14:49 AM
sawguy21, We're getting at that age now!  ;)

Frustrating at times, but it's going to happen now and then!  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on December 13, 2020, 08:18:07 AM
I did something dumb today.  Read the "Trump" thread.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 13, 2020, 09:51:19 AM
I did something dumb today.  Read the "Trump" thread.  :D :D :D
Oh dear!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Texas Ranger on December 13, 2020, 10:17:20 AM
Wouldn't be a day without me doing something dumb.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: PC-Urban-Sawyer on December 13, 2020, 02:39:32 PM
I did something dumb today.  Read the "Trump" thread.  :D :D :D
So, Danny, where's this "Trump" thread?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on December 13, 2020, 03:16:33 PM
It lost the election. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on December 13, 2020, 08:20:52 PM
The "Trump" thread is in Restricted Topics. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on December 14, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) 
I looked back a couple of pages and didn't see a post by you?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on December 14, 2020, 07:38:23 PM
I only read it because I am an Admin.  I do not typically post in the Restricted Topics. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 17, 2020, 01:08:35 PM
Well it has been quite a while since I made a contribution here, and even now I am not admitting to anything but I do have a question: You know those jugs that windshield washer fluid comes in?? Well do you folks how long it takes to unwrap and extricate one of them from the final stage of a 3 stage snow blower? Just askin'. :D ;D
 The answer, as it turns out, is about 20 freezing cold minutes and you will likely tear up your gloves in the process.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on December 17, 2020, 01:26:27 PM
Probably not as long as it takes to unwrap 50' of extension cord or garden hose from a 6' wide tractor PTO driven snow blower. (Don't ask me how I know this).  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: breederman on December 17, 2020, 03:41:56 PM
Not as long as it takes to unwrap 1/4 mile of electric fence wire from.a hay tedder.....at least that's what I hear😁
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ladylake on December 17, 2020, 03:43:39 PM
 I sawed all day yesterday and didn't do anything dumb,  rare.   Steve
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 17, 2020, 04:13:07 PM
Not as long as it takes to unwrap 1/4 mile of electric fence wire from.a hay tedder.....at least that's what I hear😁
Or 200 yards of high tensile wire from a PTO driven 6í rotary tiller....I heard that from somebody else too 🙄 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 17, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
Fence wire and garden hoses are not very exciting. I have to say the snow looked like a ran a Smurf through a wood chipper. Such a pretty blue hue ALL over. Like a giant snow cone. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 17, 2020, 09:01:56 PM
OG, I would gladly have to extricate the plastic bottle from the snow blower if it meant I could have some snow to plow, shovel, throw, ski in.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 17, 2020, 10:03:11 PM
OG, I would gladly have to extricate the plastic bottle from the snow blower if it meant I could have some snow to plow, shovel, throw, ski in.
Be careful what you ask for! :D ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on December 18, 2020, 01:17:28 AM
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D


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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 18, 2020, 07:39:56 AM
The cut mark on your mill IS your  badge.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on December 18, 2020, 09:22:17 AM
I'm sure glad I've never done anything like that. ::) :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Rhodemont on December 18, 2020, 10:30:03 AM
That big pile of baling twine next to the barn from feeding the horses got a bit smaller when I snagged it in the snow blower.  I think I will start a new bed time prayer..."Please do not let me do something dumb tomorrow".
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 18, 2020, 10:39:19 AM
God likes a little humor now and then, he will probably just smile.   :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on December 18, 2020, 11:35:13 AM
I worked in small engine shops and have no idea how many miles of twine, barbed wire, extension cord I have cut out of snowblowers. I have the scars to prove it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on December 18, 2020, 11:47:41 AM
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D
And your chainsaw rescue skills are impressive.
Just the right amount of downward cut to get you back to sawing without wasting the next board.
Carry on the good work!  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 18, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D


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A couple of weeks ago. I didnít just skim the backstop I sawed into it at sawing speed about 5 or 6 inches from the top.  I did it in front of my customer/neighbor, his dad and his crowd of cronies who were standing around smoking, chewing, watching and editorializing.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on December 18, 2020, 03:02:48 PM
Well, I might as well come clean, that was me yesterday who wrapped that antifreeze jug in the snow blower. And today, I topped it. I was doing the extra work to cut a path out to the wood stack where the snow has exploded one of the high tarps I had it covered with. I thought it split down the middle, but I was wrong. At at rate, all the guy ropes snapped 'with energy' and flew off into the woods like rubber bands, BUT I managed to find one and wrapped about 20' of it around the first ands second stage auger shafts. That took over an hour, in the shop, and I had to take that 1st stage halfway apart. That nylon rope wrapped up inside the plastic bushing sleeve with enough force to pop the c-clip off. What a mess. My Dad was right, I have to learn the hard way, always.
 The good news is, the tarp did not split and I can reset it tomorrow, I am too pooped now and have to do a gas run.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JoshNZ on December 18, 2020, 05:43:14 PM
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D
And your chainsaw rescue skills are impressive.
Just the right amount of downward cut to get you back to sawing without wasting the next board.
Carry on the good work!  ;D
Kind of easy when the blade has climbed up away from the cut, I had a 1/2" of padding to play with there.
I've had the mill sawing for over a year now and it's the first time I've hit it  smiley_crying. In that year I've often thought, this blade is buggered, and I know that backstop must be close, and I've gotta get my first one out of the way at some point, so I'll just risk it haha. Epitome of laziness. And yet I'd never hit it. This time I just forgot  :-\
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RAYAR on December 18, 2020, 07:03:32 PM
At last.. no words needed but I would like to know where I collect my club badge =D


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Apparently you haven't made a blade guard yet to prevent this ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 19, 2020, 12:18:10 AM
I once wound a significant  chunk of overhead triplex up into my brush mower. It had been moved, not by me.....  ::) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on December 19, 2020, 06:41:38 AM
I once wound a significant  chunk of overhead triplex up into my brush mower. It had been moved, not by me.....  ::)
You gotta stop mowing the pole tops.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on December 19, 2020, 12:32:39 PM
I am trying to envision his height adjustment.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 19, 2020, 10:14:27 PM
Honestly  a knot headed horse moved it for me.  It was laid out to hang on a pole  between two barns. Fred had the sweetest personality, but your fence better be really  hot, and two chains on the gates oh, yeah don't leave anything within reach or he was playing with it. Like a giant Labrador.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on December 20, 2020, 07:25:11 AM
My neighbors son had borrowed a 3/8 cable while he was learning to drive, bombing around the farm in one of the retired trucks. I found it while bush hogging, what a mess, that took an angle grinder and much blood letting  :D.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Ed_K on December 20, 2020, 07:34:22 AM
 End of Nov. I welded a quick release plate onto my fork frame so I could add the snow plow to it for winter. Yesterday I needed the bucket on so I pulled the release lever and backed out of the quick frame. Worked great BUT your supposed to unhook the hydro lines for the plow too. Broke the 90į right at the swing piston >:( :( :o.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on December 20, 2020, 10:04:55 AM
I put my grapple bucket on and attached the hydraulic hoses, but did not latch the quick attach.  it fell off the first time I rolled it forward.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 20, 2020, 09:41:08 PM
Ok I've done that with the, hay spear, pallets forks and the bucket..  .
  A week ago I ordered a quick attach brush grapple. Hmmm.. Thats probably  a good reason to make my hoses a little longer with a tear away zip tie or something. I hadn't thought about that consequence yet.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Lostinmn on December 21, 2020, 07:04:18 AM
After reading posts about chainsaw scabbards and best place to mount them on tractors and/or logging winches, I thought to myself I really should fab up something similar.  I usual put the saw in the bucket, and I havenít managed to dump it like others were talking about.

Then yesterday, I needed to nudge a log with the forks... yep dumped the saw right out onto the logs  :)

Fortunately there was no damage to saw. So fabricating a saw holder just became a top of the list project now that I joined the dumped it club!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on December 21, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
That big pile of baling twine next to the barn from feeding the horses got a bit smaller when I snagged it in the snow blower.


It can't be as bad as cutting 100 ft. plus of barbed wire off the rear axle of a jeep after being up all night on exercise with the army. :rifle: smiley_furious 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 21, 2020, 04:47:05 PM
How about accidentally laying out 1000 feet of 5" hose off of a firetruck.  I'm sure you know that we carry hose on the top of the truck to be laid from a hydrant to a fire.  Well, I was working about 15 years ago at one of our stations and I heard a sound outside like someone dragging a large piece of metal behind a truck.  I ran outside to see what was going on.  I got out there just in time to see a neighboring department firetruck drive by with the end of the 5" hose and coupling dragging behind.  Just as they went by the hose began laying out behind the truck.  I hurriedly called the chief of that department and said you need to tell your truck that they just laid 1000 feet of hose down the road.  He called the truck and told them what had happened.  They had no idea.  We had to close the road down for an hour or so while we loaded all the hose back on the truck.  

Another time, a hoseline that we keep accordion loaded on the front bumper of the truck and is preconnected to piping in the bumper fell off.  The nozzle fell over the side and proceeded to get wound up in one of the duals like it was spool.  200' of hose wrapped up in the dual and then when all the hose was rolled up and tight it ripped the pipe off the bumper.  The chief was none too happy, but these things happen and are the price of doing our business.  He was over it in a short order.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on December 21, 2020, 04:49:12 PM
K-Guy,

    Try that with concertina instead of barbwire! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Tacotodd on December 21, 2020, 06:31:03 PM
Either one is bad, only, concertina is FAR worse.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on December 21, 2020, 07:14:41 PM
One of my clients was a safety officer for a big trash hauling company. He got the call one morning, one of the dumpster trucks had left the industrial park with his load too high, caught a phone line and took it down. As Dave is arriving on scene he notices they haven't coned the area yet and the line is laying in the road. As he is getting out of his car a small truck drives over the line, picks it up on his wheel and is heading down the road unawares, reeling it in. The little truck gets to the end of its tether, the line snatches taught, jerks the rears off the ground and parts the line. Dave is standing there watching it all unfold. The line whips up in the air, arcs over the 3 phase line supplying the industrial park, a light show ensues, and the park goes dark. He showed up later in the day at the job just shaking his head, a few hundred dollar incident turned into a disaster right before his eyes  :D.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 21, 2020, 07:22:05 PM
Yeah, thats a mess.  I don't know how many calls I've gone to where a dump truck has driven away from a job with the bed all the way up.  On one, I think the truck took down about 4 power poles and wires down everywhere.  Show up with driver still sitting in truck afraid to get out.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on December 21, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
That has happened more than once with highway overpasses. One did that with an overheight load on 99, the Canadian side of I-5. He kept going but got stopped by the next one. He lost his cdl permanently over that, it wasn't his first violation.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 21, 2020, 09:37:37 PM
My buddy that runs a tree service has a bucket truck.  The driver was on his way to a job, the bucket, which was properly stowed, caught a cable tv cable that was hanging too low.  It took out 7 power poles, three were broken, four were pulled down.  Power went out for several thousand.  The power company filed suit against my buddy for over $100,000.  The highway patrol officer that responded to the accident had reported the cable several times so my buddyís insurance was off the hook.  The cable company had to foot the bill for the mayhem.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on December 25, 2020, 06:53:05 AM
 My turn!!
I cut a small dead pine, maybe 8 inches at the stump. It did not have the weight to come to the ground, got hung up in some other branches, kinda like cedar does. So I winched it down with my 3 pt winch on my tractor. It bounced when it hit the ground and I got a lot of slack in the cable, which is normal. Note the a lot of slack. I kept on winching it in, which I know better. Brought it up to the so called wood yard up by the house and all is fine.
Yesterday I went into the woods to use it, had some more dead wood to get out before we went for Christmas, I grabbed onto the cable and got about 8 feet out and that was it. I pulled on by hand, did nothing, closet tree was 10 feet away. Should of known than it would not turn out good. I backed the tractor up some and hooked a chain on to that tree and drove forward. The winch stopped the tractor. Oh well just have to give it some more throttle.  ::)  Front wheels comes off the ground that time.  :o  I looked inside the winch to see the problem, hard to see in there and does look bad, so I try it again. Same thing with the front wheels. Not good. So I unhook and head it for the garage. Than I remembered the last time I used it. I know better, all that slack must of got wrapped up wrong. I get to the garage and get my head lamp to see inside the winch better. I turn the drum and can see it, it is wrapped around itself. I try to get it out, but with only a 8 inch hole, and off to the side of the drum, I can't really get at it. So off comes the mast, top part of the winch. I've had it off many years ago, 20 years ago. When I take it off I am looking right at the problem. When the cable got slack it somehow wrapped around itself. At first I thought I was going to have to cut the slides off and feed it through that wrapped up place. But I took a bar and kept rotating the drum and get some slack and got it unraveled. And what a mess I had!!! It's no longer straight in 2-3 places, and one bad kink. Had quite a mess of cable in about a foot square area inside the winch. But I kept pushing and pulling and got it. Than I put it all back together and headed for the woods again. I knew where there was a good size pine that broke off and headed for that. I knew I needed some hard pulling to get the cable straight again, if I could. I Had a little bit of a hard time getting the cable through the pulley, it was twisted real bad. With it laying on the ground it did not look good at all, it was more coiled than straight. I winched in one length of that pine, kept it a good 40 feet away and than went back for the top of it, kept that about 40 feet away and than went back for a smaller tree that was there. Than I brought it all up to the tractor. Did not lock it in, pulled the tractor the full length of the cable, and the cable did not look bad. Even the place that kinked real bad looked good. Would not want to handle the cable with no gloves. I did that about 3 times and all looks good. Did not do the cable much good. :(  :o  But that cable has been on there for years, maybe 5 years?? Maybe I need to buy another one as a spare. :)  Not really, at probably more than $200 I doubt it. Only doing this for my own use. But the mess only cost me about a hour and a half of time. Lucky. But saying that, I still might have to buy one because it may not wind on the drum right when I have a light load.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 25, 2020, 11:20:29 AM
Well, at least you got it figured out before worse damage was done, like flipping the tractor or breaking the winch.  Here at the FD we have big breathing air compressors.  They have a hose reel that you pull out to fill large air bottles that are mounted in the trucks.  The reel is spring rewind, so guys are constantly letting it rewind too fast which causes the hose to get wrapped around the spool like you had happen.  Its a major undertaking to get that fixed.  We used to have to call in the service company to fix, but finally one day I had him show me how to fix it.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 25, 2020, 11:54:11 AM
 
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Some winches backlash worse than others!  My ATV winch does the same thing sometimes, itís a might bit easier to get the over wraps pulled loose.  A shot of silicone spray helps considerably.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on December 25, 2020, 12:13:45 PM
I know better on winching a tree down. It happens almost every time. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Silverfoxfintry on December 27, 2020, 11:41:11 AM
Just be very careful with a cable that has been kinked.  
It may have lost up to 50% of its strength.
Better to replace the cable soonest. Before it fails!

Take care 
Silverfox 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Dragline on December 28, 2020, 09:59:01 PM
Ran over my Christmas present new chainsaw with my tractor  :-\, fortunately the ground was moderately muddy,  so the chainsaw kinda buried up. Only broke the chain brake. It was end of the day of cutting and stacking firewood,  and wasn't paying attention. ... lesson learned  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on December 28, 2020, 10:32:05 PM
Ouch, good it's repairable and not a few salvage parts, welcome btw.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 29, 2020, 02:33:22 PM
So your second post on this forum is the Did Something Dumb thread.  I hope for you that's not a trend.  What chainsaw was it?  Don't feel too bad though.  I started this thread when I knocked the blade off of my mill.  Now there's over 1200 posts.  Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on December 29, 2020, 03:45:38 PM
Welcome we are glad you are on the Forestry Forum but joining this thread so soon might not be good!  :D  

Glad it was just a chainsaw and no doctors were involved in this incident!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Dragline on December 29, 2020, 04:33:50 PM
Thanks for the welcome.  I had just bought the chainsaw,  a huskavarna 545, as an upgrade from the 450. Not normally boneheaded,  but had a long day and just forgot I set it there. Even my wife felt bad for me. It did start right up afterwards,  but I gotta clean it up and fix the chain brake handle.  Hopefully my last entry in the "Did something dumb today"; at least for awhile  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on December 29, 2020, 04:42:00 PM
Running over a saw in not a good thing.
I made this for my saw. 
There's a few threads on this, but I like the saw where I can see it when I get on the tractor. Been a few times I went to take off and stopped, no chainsaw!!!! I got off and put the chainsaw where it belonged. Made it all out of wood, plywood.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10436/chainsawholder2.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1402578961)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trimguy on January 02, 2021, 10:07:54 AM
Yesterday I was taking a 2í x4í fluorescent light down off the trusses in my shop so I could put up more plywood ceiling. I was on at 8 foot step ladder I started to lose my balance and let go of the light. In the process it came down and hit my thumb And gave me a pretty bad cut and started bleeding all over. Went to the house to wash it out and bandage it up and my wife and daughter were in the kitchen. Both of them very adamant that I go get stitches. I could not talk them out of it. So to keep the peace I went. So, after being in the waiting room for over two hours I walked up to the desk and ask where am I on the list. They said ď there is 11 people in front of you ď. I said ď Iím out ď. I am not a hospital person. So my wife and daughter are not happy with me. By now they ought to know . Someone said something about old guys and ladders.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: alanh on January 02, 2021, 11:03:19 AM
I can`t tell you how many times I`ve been told "you better go get that stitched" and I didn`t. sometimes hospitals can do more harm than good. I would be sitting there wondering how long before someone passes on covid.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Peter Drouin on January 02, 2021, 12:45:54 PM
Supper glue, Nuff said. :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: APope on January 02, 2021, 01:17:30 PM
I keep a suture kit available in my first aid. I will clean out a cut and stitch myself up if possible. I see no need to wait and pay someone for what I can do myself.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on January 02, 2021, 03:05:07 PM
I'm inclined to get stitches if my hand is involved.  As inconvenient as it is, it makes the total healing time go quicker.  Covid might influence my decision right now though.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on January 02, 2021, 03:17:38 PM
The last time I had surgery they used super glue to close the incision.
Would that work on fingers?
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on January 02, 2021, 04:12:30 PM
They tend not to use glue on areas that stretch due to movement, such as knuckles, knees, etc.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trimguy on January 02, 2021, 06:05:55 PM
I just cleaned it and applied Neosporin and bandaged it up. Itís not the first time. Super works also. It wasnít a problem to me , it was more of a battle that I didnít want to fight at the time. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on January 02, 2021, 07:17:43 PM
I have stitched myself and a few others up out in the shop. a friends mother at our kitchen table, and taught her daughter to do it as she was in NP school.  lots of steri-strips (butterfly) with skin prep (tincture of Benzoin).  glue is great on flat surfaces that you can get together.  pops open over the backside of a knuckle as mentioned.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 02, 2021, 10:07:04 PM
Steri-strips have saved me a few stitches and trips to the emergency clinic.  I find that super glue to hold the steri-strip ends in place is better than super gluing a laceration together.  Iíve done both.  The last time the steri-strips super glued in place stayed about 7 or 8 days.  When I re-dressed the cut, I used steri-strips alone for 4 or 5 more days.  As with any laceration, cleaning the wound prior to applying steri-strips is essential.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 04, 2021, 03:10:22 PM
My turn (again).
So I am mixing up some epoxy getting ready to make a small pour and as you know, the mixing time can get really boring. So I am stirring with my right hand and decide to have a cigarette to pass the time and reach into my shirt pocket and get one out with my left hand then fumble around in there for my bic lighter. Well, I fumbled with it and dropped it. Did I mention I was upstairs in the loft work area? Well anyway it bounced off the end of the loft and down to the shop floor. So I gave a couple more stirs then ran downstairs to fetch it and get back before I missed too much mixing time. I glanced at the woodstove in the unlikely event that the lighter landed there, then looked all around on the floor, under the stove and wood carts and began widening my search when I figured out where it was because ....
Well, do you folks have any idea the kind of noise a Bic lighter can make when it sits on a working wood stove? Holy cow that was loud. I saw traces of pieces flying in at least 3 directions, but it was pretty blurry.
I went back upstairs and finished the mixing and the pour. Then came back but after 20 minutes of searching only found 2 little yellow shards of the lighter. No idea where it went. Apparently it bounced behind the chimney on the top of the stove and just laid there until the inevitable happened. Or so I am guessing based on the little white shadow on the stove top that wasn't there before.
I just got that lighter yesterday. Dang.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on January 04, 2021, 03:33:13 PM
Whoa, that could have been a lighter of things other than cigarettes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 04, 2021, 03:34:47 PM
Yes, it was 'very enthusiastic'.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 04, 2021, 03:59:51 PM
Sort of like shooting a raccoon with a .270 inside a tobacco barn!  Iíll never do that again!   I carry a .22 pistol for that sort of thing, now.

Glad the lighter explosion wasnít worse!  My luck, it would have started a fire!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 04, 2021, 07:15:51 PM
 :D I bet your ears were ringing.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 04, 2021, 07:21:26 PM
WHAT!?
 Yeah, for a little bit. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: nativewolf on January 04, 2021, 07:32:09 PM
Someone trying to get you to stop smoking :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on January 04, 2021, 07:53:36 PM
we had a scout lay a lighter on top of the wood stove in our mess tent.  no harm to anyone, but no one in the tent will do that again.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 04, 2021, 07:55:00 PM
we had a scout lay a lighter on top of the wood stove in our mess tent.  no harm to anyone, but no one in the tent will do that again.
Yes, I too shall avoid repeating the experience. Its kind of like a flash-bang without much flash.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on January 04, 2021, 08:03:33 PM
Several years ago I was working on the water heater for my camper.  It wasn't heating the water, so I did some electrical checking and then turned it on again to see if it started working.  When it's working I can hear gurgling on the outside panel.  Well, I had the panel off and put my ear right down by the thing to see if I could hear it.  Well, right then the dang heating element blew up and a part of it hit my face.  I felt like someone had fired a gun right by my face.  After running away and feeling my face for blood, I realized I was gonna be fine, but I did have tinnitus for a few days.  Don't do that.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 04, 2021, 08:08:14 PM
 Don't do that.
SO noted. ;D I will try not to do that.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Resonator on January 04, 2021, 09:25:30 PM
Reminds me of the time I needed to use my oxy-acetylene torch, and couldn't find the flint striker. Tried using the electric push button igniter off a hand held propane torch instead. Definitely won't do that again.  :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Silverfoxfintry on January 06, 2021, 04:37:33 AM
A few years ago a safety bulletin did the rounds in the Oil Rigs in the North Sea.
Apparently Two men had been injured by exploding plastic gas lighters.
One lost his leg and the other was disembowelled.
Both were welding and had lighters in their pockets. The report mentioned that a plastic lighter had the same energy potential as 2oz of Gelignite. 
Apparently a spark from the welding melted the casing and ignited the compressed Gas.
So be careful with plastic lighters.

Take care.

Silverfox.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 06, 2021, 08:24:57 AM
Back in the early 70's I worked in a shop that had about 4 welders as part of the crew. The foreman read about a welder who had a plastic lighter in his shirt pocket. Some slag hit it and it blew a hole in his chest.
That day he went out to the shop and confiscated every plastic lighter and replaced them with a zippo, a can of fluid, and a pack of flints. Every new welder hired was given the same treatment after that. Using a plastic lighter was a suspension offense and the second time you were fired.
Yes, they can be dangerous. I got my reminder. Still haven't found the remains beyond two shards.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on January 06, 2021, 08:42:18 AM
I don't know if I mentioned this elsewhere here or not but I'm currently (since around June 2020) taking a part of my house that was covered by roof but not enclosed and turning it into a workshop. We got concrete poured, framing and walls up and the wife is handling electricity. 

Within the past month or so I've rearranged things in the garage and moved my major tools into the workshop area and finally a few weeks ago I could start using it as a workshop while finishing a few minor things up. Unfortunately the shop isn't big enough and we only had power outlets in places where, to use my planer, I had to plug it in with the cord stretched out, hanging above the floor by about a foot and a half. As it's still all a work in progress and I was working on a project there was a fair amount of junk here and there but I was doing pretty well to step over the cord. I probably made it 30 times with no trouble. Then once with trouble. I got caught on it and basically jumped, knee first, onto the concrete floor, causing a very minor fracture in my right kneecap and hitting my chest on a plastic tool box on my way to falling to the ground. 

I got very lucky in that I didn't need surgery and now 3 and a half weeks later I'm feeling ok. 

A reminder to keep your walkways clear. My lovely wife came out about 5 minutes later and started straightening things out. We'll see if I learned a lesson. I also may have had some beverages that lead to this accident...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 06, 2021, 10:15:52 AM
   I guess it was dumb - it was annoying and frustrating. Last night about 9:00 p.m. we had a power outage. I guess a big tree fell on the main line down the road somewhere. Our back-up genset fired up 10 seconds later and switched power to the genset for about 30 seconds then went off. I found a dim headlight and went out and opened the cover. I noticed an "Underspeed warning". I tried resetting the machine and pulled out the 7.5 amp blade fuse and checked it which really was dumb - if it was blown the warning light would not have displayed. Anyway I fat fingered and dropped the fuse into the genset and according to Murphey's Law it never fell through. We looked high and low but could not find it. After diligent searching my wife found a box of 10 amp fuses. I put one of them in and restarted the genset but it would run a few seconds then shut off and displayed a "Replace air filter" light. I also found a mouse or chipmunk nest in the bottom of the machine. I removed the cover and found the air filter was a bit crumpled and bent. I put it back on and cranked the genset and it ran but still showed the warning light to replace the air filter. I went to my log barn and lo and behold I did have a spare A24 filter for the Kohler engine. I replaced it and hit the reset button and everything worked fine. We went to bed a couple of hours later and I woke up about 4:00 a.m. to find power had been restored. 

   Evidently the dented air filter and possible mouse or chipmunk nest did not allow enough air flow for the genset to come up to full speed and generate enough power to run. I don't know why it never showed up before as it had to have been there a long time. I guess the weekly "crank and run and charge the battery" function never put the machine under a load. Anyway, I'm off to our local Advance Auto to get a couple of assorted blade fuse spares and replace the 10A with a 7.5A fuse. I will tape a spare there in the cover somewhere and I'll pick up another air filter.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 06, 2021, 10:26:53 AM
When you get back into it in the daylight, let me know if you find any pieces of my lighter. ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 06, 2021, 10:39:33 AM
Tom,

  Your lighter story reminded me of the time I parked our company P/U outside the "Catfish Air" parking lot in Iraq in the heat of the summer. When I got back I smelled what I thought was soap or something and there pieces of colored plastic all over the truck. I later found one of the maids had left a can of air freshener on the back of the back seat and it got hot enough inside the cab the can had exploded.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on January 06, 2021, 10:41:40 AM
I will tape a spare there in the cover somewhere and I'll pick up another air filter.
Chances are good that when you go to need that fuse, the tape will have dried up and the fuse fell in somewhere bad.  How about one of those magnetic hide-a-key boxes (for cars)?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: offrink on January 06, 2021, 11:04:27 AM
If itís a Kohler engine that means itís most likely a generac and they have plastic or aluminum boxes. Magnet wonít work. Good idea to keep a spare in a box in the housing though!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 06, 2021, 11:26:34 AM
A reminder to keep your walkways clear. My lovely wife came out about 5 minutes later and started straightening things out. We'll see if I learned a lesson. I also may have had some beverages that lead to this accident...
Yes housekeeping, eliminating trip hazards and PPE are basics of safety, unfortunately we all get reminders from time to time.

Glad you are on the mend and hope you you recover fully!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 06, 2021, 12:29:48 PM
@offrink (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42920)  & @ljohnsaw (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=20640) ,

  I like the idea but modified it slightly and just used one of my 2 for 99 cent HF magnets to just hold the box the extra fuses came in in place on the tray on the left side under the cover after I replaced the 10A fuse we used as a temporary get-by last night. While lots of the genset (Yes its a Generac) may be aluminum that tray is steel and they seem securely fastened there. I love those little magnets. If you have a bunch of tiny screws or washers or such just toss one in the pigeonhole in your toolbox where you keep them and they keep everything secure. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on January 07, 2021, 07:26:05 AM
I'm reading through this whole thread, so far I think I'm 25 pages deep and haven't seen this issue come up otherwise yet, so I'll share, though this was a while ago...

I'm relatively new to owning enough land that I needed a chainsaw. I was borrowing the FILs small Stihl for a bit, with a 16" bar, but it was hard to start for me a lot of times, and too small to deal with some of the big trees we have.

Along my driveway were some small Oak trees the previous homeowner planted (to the dismay of my neighbor, who I'm pretty sure proceeded to spray round-up on them). Well, I told him, since they weren't really growing well, that I was going to cut them down. He was happy to help so he brought out his Husqvarna 455 Rancher, fired it up nicely and we cut down the trees and cut the stumps flush with the ground so I could mow. It looked and ran like a pretty nice saw so I went out and spent about $500 bucks for one. 

I got some good use out of the saw until I got to a point where it seemed like it lost all compression or something one day when I went to start it. Welp, boo. I took it to the repair shop down the way and got a call later saying that it was all seized up due to lack of proper oil mix. So I forgot, upon filling a gas can, to add 2-cycle oil... 

So, 2 brand new $500 saws in less than a year. Now, I buy the pre-mix (at crazy added expense) because I don't trust myself to do it right... 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on January 07, 2021, 07:33:59 AM
Too late now, but I have a can marked chainsaw and I always put the oil in first. Than the gas. Been doing it for years this way, more than 40. Now I hope I won't be on here in a few months to say I burned up my less than a year old Husky 450. :(  But the mix I use makes the gas blue. I look for the blue!!! I even put the oil mix bottle on the shelf of the OWB to warm it up so it flows better too. I let it drain for at least a Ĺ hour too. Fussy old man I am.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on January 07, 2021, 08:58:29 AM
 @aigheadish (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53516) by all means feel free to post something a second time on this thread or even a third time.  I started this thread when I foolishly knocked my blade off my saw while returning the head.  I had no idea it would evolve into this place where we all feel compelled to share our blunders.  Here at the FD its a constant struggle to keep guys from putting the wrong fluids into the wrong spot.  Gasoline into the fire truck fuel.  Diesel into the gasoline pick up trucks.  I've solved that by changing all the fuel nozzles to the larger size, but that won't stop folks from putting gas into the diesels.  As you found out, it only becomes a problem when you realize it way too late.  Usually guys will realize it as they are doing it.  In older days we had saws with different fuel/oil ratios, but at least now its all 50:1.  We have switched to tru fuel for all of our small engines so we have no more mixing to do.  We still carry 2 cycle oil in case we need to make some in a pinch.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on January 07, 2021, 09:37:47 AM
I have an old aquarium stand I got up in Albany.  I put a piece of Masonite where the aquarium sat on top.  it has a low shelf brace.  it is thin metal but very sturdy.  I use the top to work on my saws and change chains, clean up, and refuel.  I have another board that fits it with a 8 inch hole cut in it and use it for when I work on vertical shaft small engines.  My gas and bar oil sit underneath on the small shelf.  Have used it for 30 years now.  I have a spout with an on off valve on the bar oil, and the push button style 2.5 gallon gas can.  I have a 5 gallon new push button can that I get av gas (high octane, no ethanol, a bit of lead)in to refill and mix up saw gas.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 07, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
@aigheadish (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=53516) , That is a very common problem. My policy here is all of my small (1-2.5 gallon capacity) fuel cans/plastic jugs are strictly for mixed gas and oil and my 5-6 gallon cans are for unmixed fuel. Everything on my place runs on 50:1 mixture so I add the oil before I add gas to the smaller can. On my place if its in a small can it is always mixed, no question. If in a large can, it is unmixed, no question.

I do the same thing with my Johnson Outboard motor for my boat. I keep 2- 6 gallon tanks and run one completely dry then switch tanks. Before I refill the fuel can/tank I add a pint of 2 cycle oil which gives me my 50:1 mix (Or close enough for guvment work). The 6 gallon tanks are very easy to use for this purpose because of this mixing feature.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on January 07, 2021, 03:30:19 PM
I had a decent run of bringing the gas cans back from the station and immediately putting the oil in them, and yeah they are marked 50:1 but I guess I forgot on one trip... I like the idea of pouring the oil first and the blue stuff! Nothing a $500 mistake can't cure!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on January 07, 2021, 07:59:06 PM
I keep my saw skrench on my can of mixed gas with a caribener and string.  use same mix in all my 2cycle engines.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on January 11, 2021, 01:19:19 PM


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/IMG_8404.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1603055312)
 
Well then the Orange had to help the Green out!!   :o
Phew, finally caught up after reading this whole thread! Thanks for the lessons gang!

@Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) the idea of lifting that little green guy into the sky is brilliant! I embraced the PITA of dropping my mower deck to change a belt in my gravel driveway and it was pretty miserable. It looks like a great plan (with the mandatory bracing) to disconnect the deck and leave it on the ground while lifting the whole mower into the sky, with the backhoe, so I can mess around underneath it!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on January 11, 2021, 01:31:48 PM
Also, a public service announcement... 

My something dumb was to assume that Harbor Freight had a good deal going on 5 gallon fuel cans. I bought three of them yesterday, just prior to going to Menards, where I found the exact same cans for half the cost.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 11, 2021, 03:11:29 PM
HF deals arenít always. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 11, 2021, 03:21:22 PM
Also, a public service announcement...

My something dumb was to assume that Harbor Freight had a good deal going on 5 gallon fuel cans. I bought three of them yesterday, just prior to going to Menards, where I found the exact same cans for half the cost.
   If you had not already filled them you could always take them back. ???

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on January 11, 2021, 06:20:20 PM
Sadly, WV, I'm much too stubborn for that, even though the HF was literally next door. I did buy another kerosene can at Menard's. 

My God I hate all the spouts on these things. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 23, 2021, 12:27:39 PM

Spent a little over 1200.00 yesterday emptying the cat litter box.  ::)


How did one do that you might you ask??
Put the spent cat litter in the bucket of my smaller tractor and hopped on to haul it to an old ground hog hole i've been filling.  So while moving the smaller tractor  out I backed  into the very corner of the bucket  on my other tractor.
 I had parked it up by the shop door, it was waiting there  to get the washer fluid reservoir filled.  I thought I had enough clearance to get by..... all I needed to do was stop and move the other tractor  back 2 ft.... but nope it will pass if I turn it as I go out.  So I was watching the loader bucket so it  cleared some obstacles  I hit the clutch too late as I turned my head to look and saw it coming.  It tapped the sidewall and it split the old tire.  I  pulled it back forward to stop the fountain of beet juice and let the tire go flat.  I used some special words and was generally disgusted with myself. Then I thought about it after a while, and   yes  it was really dumb for hurrying and not moving the tractor .... I was also fortunate because those rear tires came with the tractor 17 years ago, they were severely checked and tired. They were for sure going to get replaced in a couple months when the weather got better for the tire man. I was just limping them along til then. 
It could've been the tire sidewall  splitting while moving bales or a big log and been far worse. It didn't hit it that hard don't think a new tire would have gone... So now  just biting the bullet and replacing them sooner.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on January 23, 2021, 01:03:38 PM
  We had to go back to the Dr. Wednesday for a follow up on my cataract surgery. The calipers were grabbing on my wife's truck so she dropped it at our mechanic. I drove mine down ahead of her and parked right next to the big stone planter so they had room to access the gas tanks in the very tight quarters at the mechanic/gas station. When my wife arrived she got in to drive me the rest of the way to the doctor. As soon as she got in she turned hard right without ever looking in her mirror where she says she could not see the 4' tall planter anyway. She did a very good job of crumpling the right side of my truck. I already had body cancer popping through over the left fender and figured when it got bad enough I'd get a good replacement bed in N. Fla when we go down to see Mom. We did that with her truck a couple years ago as they do not use salt there. I guess my time line just got moved up.

   I have body shops here saying they can cut out the affected rust area and put in a new panel for about $500 but they will not guarantee the work. I think a pristine used bed and tailgate before was about $900 and another $450 or so to paint it and swap them out.

   Anyway, while parking in a very out of the way spot to allow access for others seemed like a good idea at the time, according to my wife it was still my fault she hit the planter but I digress.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 23, 2021, 01:15:50 PM
Howard, it will ALWAYS be your fault. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on January 23, 2021, 01:35:19 PM
we, I say we! did something similar, and it is why we keep our cars for a min. of 7 years.  I had a stack of catalpa, on a pallet in front of our oversized garage.  it is a double with about 8 feet to the side for storage inside.  and that gives me a spot for some wood on the drive.  I try to keep it to a min.  i decided to put a 4 x 8 sheet of cdx ply on top, and drove screws down into the wood that was under my plastic strapping.  i had backed my wife's car into the garage to unload some stuff.  left it there, not thinking what would happen if she pulled out.  my son parks his short jeep in there normally and can make the tight turn as there is a vinyl fence panel there.  so she pulled out and turned right thinking she had to clear the fence, but did not see the edge of the ply.  she actually hit a pole at wal-mart in the past as they sit atop a 2 foot round concrete 3 foot tall base.  she missed the pole but caught the base.  her car is old enough, and though it creased the door, it is by a normal crease and not easy to see.  she does not want to get it fixed,  translated, may want a new car.  she informed me that lots of people hit those DanG poles.  i.e. Wal-marts fault!   :D :D :D  wait, she does not read this does she?... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: donbj on January 23, 2021, 01:45:40 PM
 We had to go back to the Dr. Wednesday for a follow up on my cataract surgery. The calipers were grabbing on my wife's truck so she dropped it at our mechanic. I drove mine down ahead of her and parked right next to the big stone planter so they had room to access the gas tanks in the very tight quarters at the mechanic/gas station. When my wife arrived she got in to drive me the rest of the way to the doctor. As soon as she got in she turned hard right without ever looking in her mirror where she says she could not see the 4' tall planter anyway. She did a very good job of crumpling the right side of my truck. I already had body cancer popping through over the left fender and figured when it got bad enough I'd get a good replacement bed in N. Fla when we go down to see Mom. We did that with her truck a couple years ago as they do not use salt there. I guess my time line just got moved up.

   I have body shops here saying they can cut out the affected rust area and put in a new panel for about $500 but they will not guarantee the work. I think a pristine used bed and tailgate before was about $900 and another $450 or so to paint it and swap them out.

   Anyway, while parking in a very out of the way spot to allow access for others seemed like a good idea at the time, according to my wife it was still my fault she hit the planter but I digress.
 a few years ago I did exactly the same thing a few years ago. Parked beside this big cement barrier at a gas station and went in to talk to the owner. Came out oblivious to the barrier as I cranked it to the right and took off. Rolled the box under real good infron of the rear wheel.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 23, 2021, 02:41:26 PM
...
   Anyway, while parking in a very out of the way spot to allow access for others seemed like a good idea at the time, according to my wife it was still my fault she hit the planter but I digress.
Marriage is a relationship where one person is always right and the other person is the husband.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 23, 2021, 02:49:22 PM
My wife was not good at judging distance, she tried to move the concrete pillars in the underground parkade. TWICE! The Ranger looked like a refugee from a demo derby, repairs would have been worth more than the truck.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on January 23, 2021, 02:50:25 PM
My ex-wife was pretty good at driving too... She managed to hit one of the poles next to the gas pumps and crunch down the side of the minivan and she crashed almost through the back of the garage once... 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on January 23, 2021, 03:55:42 PM
My wife is a pretty good driver.  She has never wrecked my truck.  I NEVER, ever let her drive my truck.  The last time she drove my truck was in 2009.  That was 2 trucks ago.

 @Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) enjoy the new tires.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on January 23, 2021, 05:46:18 PM
Yep:
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=111050.0

Daughters sail_smiley
She starts drivers ed February 1'st.   Has refused to drive the caddi say_what
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on January 23, 2021, 08:49:18 PM
My concrete pole was one of those yellow painted concrete poles at the McDonalds Drive Thru :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on January 23, 2021, 10:35:54 PM
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) just how many cats you got anyway?  I mean, cleaning out a heifer barn with a loader - I get that.  Cleaning out the cat box with a loader ---- nope, never heard of that before.   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on January 23, 2021, 10:51:41 PM
@Nebraska (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=45256) just how many cats you got anyway?  I mean, cleaning out a heifer barn with a loader - I get that.  Cleaning out the cat box with a loader ---- nope, never heard of that before.   :D
Yeah, you know I missed that little detail. I can see using a skidsteer, but geez a loader?! ;D :D ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on January 24, 2021, 12:13:52 AM
Well, here's a couple.  We had a 1992 Chevy Z71 that the paint went south on.  The salesman (co-workers husband) saw the starting peels and got us a new paint job for free.  About 2 days after getting it back, my wife was pulling in the front gates at the ranch like she'd done hundreds of times.  Turned a little too sharp and caught the right rear wheel well trim on the metal gate.  Heard a funny noise and stopped and looked around.  Didn't see anything wrong so continued forward to rip the trim all the way off. ::)

Then it was my turn.  Drove 2 hours to pick up a new 5-wheel 3 horse aluminum trailer $$$.  Pulled into an abandoned gas station to figure out how to get home (before GPS's)  Didn't realize how sharp a 5th wheel turns.  Caught the fender on a concrete filled steel post in front of the gas island.  Luckily, I was able to pound out the dent and sand the scratches out.  Brushed aluminum is easy to fix!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Roundhouse on January 24, 2021, 03:05:31 AM
My tale of sheetmetal woes:
Back in the days of payphones I was using a drive-up version. It was raining and I moved my truck as close as possible so I could call and close the window most of the way. When I was done I hung up the phone and rolled up the window. The steering on my first truck, an '86 GMC Sierra was still cranked when I moved and the post in front of the phone put a distinctive crease into the door, B pillar and box side. The worst part was the cap of the post and therefore the crease, lined up perfectly with the keyhole in the door knocking the whole assembly into the door and rendering the hole out of shape for putting it back together. I was still getting my career started with student loans etc. so I was going to get every mile I could out of that truck without putting a lot back in for niceties like a working lock. I found a rubber "foot" like would go on a wooden kitchen chair that fit perfectly to plug the hole where the lock had been (to keep out all the dirt, ice, salt and such), touched up the scratch and painted it all to match (I had painted the truck when I bought it 4 years before). The only wrinkle besides the one on the side of the truck was that access was now exclusively through the passenger side door whenever the truck was locked. With an empty truck I could just slide across the bench seat. For the rest of the time when I had anything blocking the way I had a canoe paddle permanently stationed on the passenger side, I would open the door reach across with the paddle and use the blade to pop the opposite lock open in one motion. I got pretty good at that for the next couple years before the old GMC was no longer my daily driver.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: farmfromkansas on January 24, 2021, 07:08:33 AM
Think I am pretty fortunate in wife, mine got too close to one of those concrete posts when we had a 74 Nova we bought new after graduating from college.  It was a budget model with rally wheels and no AC. Cost 2750 new.  Anyway, she got too close and knew she hit it, but couldn't figure out how to get away from it without backing up, so just drove on till it was clear.  Put a nice groove all the way to the back.  But since then, she has never hurt a car other than having a deer running into the side of a Corsica she had later.  Can't complain, she has been a much less expensive wife than most. And she is doing my chores and nursing me through my convelescence right now.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 24, 2021, 12:26:23 PM
@Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)  @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)  .....1 Cat!  Roughly 2 /2.5 gallons of spent litter.  My son and significant others cat spent a couple weeks with us over the holidays while they traveled back to Connecticut to see her family.  So we had extra litter boxes set up.  Wife said hey if you have time can you empty out  the cat boxes. This translates into, "its your day off and I'm working  so".....
We have a Chinese copy of a yahmaha Rhino but the battery just went  bad, and I hadn't been to town to get a different one yet. Normally the bucket with the litter dumped in it would go  in it  or the back of the truck .   This is  to haul far enough away from the place the dog doesn't   find it and role in it or worse....The plan was to grab a loader bucket or two of asphalt grindings while I was at it since it was pretty nice out and I could patch a couple holes and soft spots in the lane. It's a mile round trip just as well kill two birds with one stone right?? ...Nope just killed one tire, the other tractor had the grapple bucket on it and  it won't haul much asphalt.   I will enjoy the new tires.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on January 24, 2021, 12:42:22 PM
Wait a second. Now you are telling me that you repair your driveway with used cat litter?  :D Dang, you opening a car wash station for those unfortunate folks who happen to visit you?  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 24, 2021, 02:10:10 PM
 @Southside (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=24297)  Driveway??... no... I'm  filling an old ground hog hole or fox den in a hay patch with the cat litter in the 5 gallon bucket. Grab asphalt grindings  for the driveway in the loader bucket on the return trip. We aren't crazy cat people as of yet. I deal with enough of those folks at work....   
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on January 24, 2021, 05:52:50 PM
Southside knows that you would not put cat litter in the driveway, he is just crazy. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: btulloh on January 24, 2021, 06:04:44 PM
Everybody knows that potholes in the driveway are best patched with chickens. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Southside on January 24, 2021, 06:40:14 PM
Lord knows plenty of mine have made attempts at that theory.

Speaking of crazy cat people.  When we lived in Oregon I looked at a ranch in Merrill.  So the realtor, who was the Queen of Spin, is taking me down the ranch lane and we drive right past the entrance to the landfill - that little detail wasn't on the listing - and she says something to the effect of "and the dump is nice and close to drop off your trash".... uh hua..... So we go a bit further and as we are passing the neighbors place the entire side hill starts to move - looked like a land slide and it was heading right toward us.  Not one to miss an opportunity the Queen of Spin calmly says "and the neighbor has a few cats, so the mice are under control".  There had to be hundreds of them, and they have this SUV in their sights.  They had us in a choke point, bottom of the valley, and it gets narrow quick.  It's an ambush!! I am thinking whatever happens, don't get out of the vehicle, if I go down they won't even find bones.  I mean Kingsley Field Air Base is about 20 miles north, but they only have F-15's so I can't even call in a Warthog for close air support, only thing they will be able to do is get some video from 5,000'.   ;D

Needless to say out of fear for my flock - I didn't make an offer on the place.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on January 24, 2021, 07:41:34 PM
Southside knows that you would not put cat litter in the driveway, he is just crazy.
He milks cows and has a sawmill..... ;)
Years ago when my wife and I were first married there were rules made regarding livestock on our place. First one is no chickens, second was no pigs.  So there is no practical way to use chicken pavers at our place.  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on January 24, 2021, 08:16:39 PM
Cat litter works great on an icy sidewalk, of course I prefer it fresh.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on January 24, 2021, 08:34:46 PM
don't use the clumping litter, don't ask how i know >:(
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: SawyerTed on January 24, 2021, 10:23:33 PM
FWIW Iíve filled in an acre gully with cat litter (letís just say a small fortune) and chicken house residue over the years but never repaired a driveway with either. My wife has a PhD and is both the hardest working and smartest woman I know but she is crazy about her cats and her chickens.  I donít talk about her hospital and doctor bills from cat bites and scratches.  Right now she is on antibiotics from a cat inflicted laceration that the urgent care super glued on Thursday.  A man has to know his limitations.....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 01, 2021, 05:54:31 PM
   This hardly rates even an honorable mention since no machines were wrecked and no stitches were required but I went to resaw some wide ash boards a couple days ago. I had removed the fuel tank and filled it and several stock gas cans when I went over to the next county where gas is about 40 cents a gallon cheaper. I put the tank in place and noticed the bungee straps seemed tight when I cinched them down and the lube hose kept getting in the way and the end of the fuel line would not reach. I found everything worked much better once I removed it and put it back on over on the other side of the mill where it came from. I had the lube tank off stored in my well house to keep it from freezing and had put the fuel tank up where the lube tank goes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 01, 2021, 06:46:39 PM
That's one of those 'laugh at yourself' moments. I have a lot of them.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on February 01, 2021, 09:11:12 PM
Howard, are you having senior moments? ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on February 02, 2021, 10:26:42 AM
Cerebral flatulence. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on February 02, 2021, 04:40:46 PM
Hopefully the snow melts soon  :D

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/truck~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1612301978)
 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 02, 2021, 05:21:54 PM
Yeah,

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/52103/IMG_20210202_095152653_HDR.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1612304489)
 

But it always have before Don, it always has.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on February 02, 2021, 05:40:32 PM
Don, I think Old greenhorn trumps you :)

He beats me. I only have about 12" but still coming down.

 I just pulled the battery out of my sled to charge tonight. Hopefully I can resurrect it and maybe get a ride in this weekend. Lets hope I don't contribute to this thread in the process.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on February 02, 2021, 07:47:29 PM
OGH,
I C U finally got to use your snow shoes!

and shovel 2

      JJ
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 02, 2021, 07:51:22 PM
I wish I had some snow to try to get stuck in.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 02, 2021, 08:00:05 PM
Crusarius, it's not a contest. :D

JJ, never had time, but if I get bored tomorrow, maybe I'll give them a shot and check out the old mill site. They set close to the door, just in case. ;D

FFOTS, around here it's pretty easy.  C'mon up. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: JJ on February 02, 2021, 09:26:14 PM
you have some mighty big shoes boots then :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on February 02, 2021, 10:00:18 PM
Hopefully the snow melts soon  :D

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/truck~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1612301978)

Now how did that get there?   say_what
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on February 03, 2021, 06:39:57 AM
I had another 6" on the truck this morning. driveway had about 12" Since I didn't plow last night. That was a mistake. I got out, but I dunno if I will get back in.

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: TimGA on February 03, 2021, 08:36:12 AM
    Ya'll can keep it, don't miss it, don't want any more of it. Moved away from it over 30 years ago, one of the best things I ever did. Don't get me wrong summers are hot hot here, bugs are rough at times. 
    I guess just pick your evil. I will say it is beautiful when you can be inside by the fire and look outside at it.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on February 03, 2021, 08:59:41 AM
Quote
Now how did that get there?   (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/saywhat.gif)


Truck sledding :D. I was 25 when we chose the house site, which has good sun. The driveway is a little steep, close to 30% grade, we usually hike up in snow. It was getting a little mushy when I got home the other day after doing some reshoring and pumping at work, we'll wait for the roof weight to clear there. I decided to try to go for it and show some dirt to help it melt. I didn't make it and then gravity on ice took hold of the situation. I hate ABS, especially backwards. With old style brakes I can stab and slew the rear, kick it back into the road and release and bring the front around. There ain't no surfing with ABS. It's in a place where if I move it'll go into the woods so that truck is there till it melts unless I want to rig it. There's a couple of cars down below and it's better weather to sit inside and read about the watermills of Floyd County  :) so I'm in no real hurry to recover it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 03, 2021, 11:33:44 AM
   Okay - its just money this time. Our dishwasher quit pumping water and I checked all the valves and such and nothing had gotten closed on them. I called our appliance repair company and they gave me an appointment about 8-9 days out. Today he finally came and punched a few buttons to run a diagnostic on it. That ran and gave him a code which prompted him to open the door and remove the spoon that had slid under the float shutting off the water. Problem solved. $106 service charge applies. I obviously did not look close enough when I checked - but the expert did not see it at first either. If your dishwasher does out be sure to double check everything carefully for any lost silverware or roller off the trays or such. Might save you some time and money. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 03, 2021, 01:11:15 PM
Not to mention washing all the dishes by hand for 8-9 days while you wait for the guy.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Jstier on February 04, 2021, 03:05:05 PM
While slabbing last night I was cutting a 36in oak and got the mill stuck about halfway through the cut. So turned off the mill and got it back about 2inches to trim off about half an inch with a chainsaw. I ended up hitting my chainsaw blade on the sawmill blade :(   >:( 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Andries on February 04, 2021, 03:57:14 PM
Which chain was the tougher ?   ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Silverfoxfintry on February 05, 2021, 05:37:06 AM
My Car uses ďAddblueĒ injected into the CAT to cut emissions.
On Tuesday I got a 10l plastic container from a friend.
Placed it in my Pickup behind the front passenger seat.
Yesterday I found the footwell flooded with Addblue.
9L soaked into the carpets.
It will take me hours to remove all the seats and trim before I can remove them for cleaning and drying.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on February 05, 2021, 01:32:52 PM
@WV Sawmiller (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28064) that reminds me of a time my relatively brand new dryer started making a terrible noise. It seemed to work ok but made a God-awful screeching and grinding. We called the repair shop, the guy came out, took apart the drum to find a nickel floating around in there, seemingly stuck in between some stuff. I've never taken apart a dryer but I likely will try if it happens again.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: dean herring on February 19, 2021, 10:13:56 PM
Has any put gasoline in their diesel tractor? I did and cranked it up,went over and cranked sawmill up to warm up. I thought it sounded different but it was really cold. Went on and cranked backhoe up and when the mill warmed up,finished sawing the log I was cutting. Went to get on tractor and it wasnít idling as usual. This was about 30 minutes after cranking.  
Iíve drained the tank. Should I purge the fuel lines or just put fuel in and crank up.🤯🤯🤯🤯
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on February 19, 2021, 10:39:35 PM
Remote started my diesel truck that was plugged in with a 100 ft extension cord and had Diesel Man (German Shepherd) in the back and went four miles over to a friends and backed in his drive, picked something up in the back of the truck and back home and let Diesel out and noticed Something 😂. Went to the front and it was still plugged in and pulled the cord and couldnít believe all 100 ft was there. The end got chewed up by the gravel road 😂😂
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on February 19, 2021, 11:41:58 PM
@Walnut Beast (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=49695)  No way....If I did something  like that I would've driven over the cord yanked it out at 40 mph. Thus tearing the cord off as well wrecking  the block heater cord at the same time. Then some body would've come along behind me witnessing the carnage and picked up a free now 90ft cord.  :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on February 19, 2021, 11:59:45 PM
I couldnít believe it 🙄
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on February 20, 2021, 12:14:19 AM
You are not the first and you won't be the last. I replaced the cord on a co workers Camry, now that was a fun job! @dean herring (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=28545) you want to flush as much as you can, diesels don't get on well with gas. My next door neighbor couldn't get his Kubota to run properly, hadthe serviceman come out but still no joy. Neither of them noticed lawn mower gas in the tank, he was some embarrassed when he told me what he had done. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on February 20, 2021, 04:39:10 AM
Ive driven off to gas up the boat with the Minkota still plugged in, wondering why my wife is yelling at me.  :o
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 20, 2021, 05:36:21 AM
We had a fire truck years ago that had an air leak we could not find and it took too long for the brakes to air up when started cold, so we kept it plugged into a small air compressors at the fire house while we continued to look for the leak. The connection was right next to the landline under the driver's door to keep the batteries and tools charged.
 Well one night/early morning we get a structure fire call and the driver passed close enough to the fire on his way for the truck that he could see it was a worker and he got a little excited, figured he was finally gonna be 'first due'. He opened the bay as he pulled in, yanked the landline without even looking and climbed in and fire it up, was out the door in to time. Got down to the bottom of the hill and when he took the turn, saw that compressor fly across the road in his rearview. Went nearly a mile before something broke, he just kept going till the brakes locked. (He wasn't first due.)
 You would think that would set him up for years of razzing, but it only lasted about 6 months until somebody did not wait until the garage door was all the way up before pulling out in a similar heated moment. I have picked up more than a few of those landlines still connected, or not far from the trucks they were connected to and repairing them and the overhead outlets they hung from. Bought them by the box.
:D :D :D :D :D
 They ruined all that now because the rigs come with a self ejecting plug, they blow it out of the socket as soon as the engine starts.......most of the time. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on February 20, 2021, 05:46:58 AM
We had that happen at work, driving off still plugged in. Now I put the extension cord over the mirror on the door. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 20, 2021, 09:11:51 AM
Oh man.  We've pulled more cords out the door, even with the auto eject.  Those things tend not to work about 1% of the time.  Doesn't sound like a lot, but we pull out of the station a lot more than 100 times per year.  I'm constantly having to replace ends on the cords and each truck ends up having to have the receptacle on the truck replaced about once a year.  We don't keep our trucks plugged into air, but a dept. I volunteered for does.  I've driven off with one of the their trucks without unplugging the air.  Those are definitely not auto eject.  

Our bay doors are set on a timer to close 5 minutes after the alerter in the station goes off for the call.
This way the bay doors aren't left open for who knows how long.  They don't always think about pushing the remote when they are going to a "worker".  Well, this week the captain that works for me at an outer station called me and said that they had ran into the door as they were pulling into the station.  They had been sent on a call and then disregarded, so they came back to the station within the 5 minutes.  They opened the back door and started to drive in just as the door started to come back down.  Very little damage to the truck, but destroyed the bottom panel of the door.  I would say we hit an average of 2 bay doors each year.  Stuff happens and its just a cost of doing the business we do.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on February 20, 2021, 11:45:38 AM
When I was still wet behind the ears I got sent to town with the flat deck on a very cold morning. The brakes worked so I unplugged the buzzer and ignored the flag. ::) I got to the first stop sign, stepped on the brake which went to the floor and rolled across the intersection. :o The drain valve was partially open, a piece of ice had obviously blown out and I was freewheelin'. Today the truck would have spring brakes.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 20, 2021, 01:02:58 PM
Oh man.  We've pulled more cords out the door, even with the auto eject.  Those things tend not to work about 1% of the time.  Doesn't sound like a lot, but we pull out of the station a lot more than 100 times per year.  I'm constantly having to replace ends on the cords and each truck ends up having to have the receptacle on the truck replaced about once a year.  We don't keep our trucks plugged into air, but a dept. I volunteered for does.  I've driven off with one of the their trucks without unplugging the air.  Those are definitely not auto eject.  

Our bay doors are set on a timer to close 5 minutes after the alerter in the station goes off for the call.
This way the bay doors aren't left open for who knows how long.  They don't always think about pushing the remote when they are going to a "worker".  Well, this week the captain that works for me at an outer station called me and said that they had ran into the door as they were pulling into the station.  They had been sent on a call and then disregarded, so they came back to the station within the 5 minutes.  They opened the back door and started to drive in just as the door started to come back down.  Very little damage to the truck, but destroyed the bottom panel of the door.  I would say we hit an average of 2 bay doors each year.  Stuff happens and its just a cost of doing the business we do.
Yeah 1% failure rate is not acceptable in the fire service. We had a few fail too, so I always pulled mine manually. I trust nothing.
 Doors: yeah, we had about a similar level of door issues, but at one point we got a rash of them. Almost every driver said "the door was all the way up before I started rolling out' and some were very adamant about it. Turned out that our radios would overload the remote receiver on the door if the antenna passed by too close while in transmit and it would trip the door to close. Well, run in the house, hit the door button. pull the cords, climb in and start it up. The brakes come up and the alarm goes off and the door is fully open. You begin to pull out, grab the mic and call in responding, the door comes down and wipes the rear bubble gum machines off the deck, or worse. SO we changed the protocol, and the reminder sign on the header from  "MAKE SURE THE DOOR IS OPEN ALL THE WAY" to read "DO NOT CALL IN RESPONDING UNTIL YOU ARE COMPLETELY CLEAR OF THE APRON" .   ;D
 On those air chucks, NO they are NOT autoeject in anyway and it is amazing how much weight they will pull! ;D
 For a while I tried to make a better mouse trap with putting strain reliefs on the cords and bolting them to the wall. All I did was increase the damage from plug replacements to fixing holes in the walls and replacing sockets on trucks. In my station 3 we used those auto recoil drop drops that retract, so you would pull the plug on the truck and it would snap up to the ceiling. Great idea right? NO. One time I jumped in the seat as I pulled and snapped the cord, I didn't see it catch in the ladder rack. Ripped the recoil unit off the ceiling and shot it across the road as I made the turn going out to a worker. Took me 20 minutes to find it when I got back and an hour to repair the spring mechanism and get it working again.
 Diesel in the gas tank was something we always worried about with so many different drivers filling trucks with varying lengths of service, but to my knowledge we never had that happen (just about everything else do though).
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on February 20, 2021, 01:29:54 PM
All of our shorelines have a cord coming down from the ceiling, then a short coiled cord plugged into that.  The short cord is what is plugged into the truck.  If the auto ejector doesn't work, then the short cord comes apart from the cord from the ceiling.  This way usually no major damage is done.  The truck just has a short cord hanging from it while it goes to the call.

We have always had the rule that you do not talk on the radio while going through the open door.  Go responding before you pull out or wait til you are out the door.  I have never seen the radio trigger the door, but we always knew it was a possibility.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Patrick NC on February 24, 2021, 07:57:30 AM
 
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 yesterday I decided the wheel on this logstop was way too round! 🤔🤫 Luckily I wasn't 1/2 an inch lower. Blade is salvageable. Just knocked the set out some. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on February 24, 2021, 08:19:36 AM
yesterday I decided the wheel on this logstop was way too round! 🤔🤫 Luckily I wasn't 1/2 an inch lower. Blade is salvageable. Just knocked the set out some.
OY, well it looks like the wheel won that fight and is still round. It could have been worse.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 05, 2021, 07:24:06 PM
OK, looks like it is my turn again. This one may put me in the running for the Hall Of Fame, no injuries, but on the stupidity level it rates right at the top of the heap. In fact I can't believe I am sharing this.
Context: I am working in the shop with my 5 YO Grandson. As he is wont to do he is hitting me with a pretty steady stream of questions, non-stop questions, except when I am doing or cutting something, then he pays attention.
 I am trying to make some simple signs by routing out the letters freehand then filling them with paint, then after drying I sand the face flush removing the excess paint and then apply urethane to seal it.
 SO the routing went fine and he really enjoyed that and giving me 'directions' ("cut that one next" etc) For the paint part I used some old enamel white spray paint but I only got about 1/3rd of the way through and the can ran out of pressure (I thought). Nothing was coming out and the little dribs indicated that the can was dead. Now with this break in the action, the questions resumed and I tried to answer them all as I was also trying to figure out how to salvage this and get the paint in so it could dry overnight. Being as the can was 'dead' and distracted by the inquisition, I grabbed an awl, and acid brush, a mallet, and a throw away drink cup to put the paint in.  I did think to lay a shop towel over the can then pierce a hole through them both. I popped the hole in easy and heard very light hissing which I kind of expected. I figured there was a pound or 3 of pressure left in the can. Now if I had just wiggled the awl loose with the hole on top of the can, I might have been fine because only the gas would come out. But no, I thought I could pull the awl as I rotated the can to put the paint in the cup. 


 For a split second, the world turned white, I tried to turn the hole toward the cup but the pressure blew the cup 6 feet away and needless to say, it was too late I had paint all over everything. My grandson thought it was pretty cool but I might get in trouble with grandma for the mess I made. :D

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It dried pretty quick and there was no chance to get it off the roller stand, floor or waste basket, so I get to 'enjoy it for years to some. Adding insult to injury, my right hand got plastered and with the dermatitis I dare not use anything stronger than soap the wash it off, so I guess I can live with it for a couple of days.
 In hindsight I would be the first one to ask me 'what the heck was I thinking?'
 Stupid.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on March 05, 2021, 07:59:59 PM
Just a heads up.....don't go throwing gasoline on a fire :). 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 05, 2021, 08:12:35 PM
Just a heads up.....don't go throwing gasoline on a fire :).
Good point. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 05, 2021, 09:07:53 PM
That there is what I'd call a mess.  Did you get the sign done?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 05, 2021, 09:35:57 PM
That there is what I'd call a mess.  Did you get the sign done?
heh, yeah, um, well... I had so much paint that I completely filled all the lettering in the sign. It will probably take 3 days to dry and cure. :D ;D  It is what it is... It's just a sign to direct folks to use the side door when they come her for the first time and can't figure out how to get in. I will just set it in a corner until it is good and cured.
But now that you mention it, I am headed out to the shop to do the stove now, maybe I should revisit the scene of the crime and check. I still feel like an iodiot, but I really can't help laughing every time I think how very stupid that was and that I was even completely and totally sober when I did it. If I had been drinking, I would have had an excuse.  ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on March 05, 2021, 09:38:09 PM
I knew someone who just got a couple cans of the foam in a can that expands and fills cracks. The high quality plastic bag failed as he was walking down the stairs into his finished basement. The pictures he posted made us all cringe. Never trust those junk plastic bags...
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on March 05, 2021, 09:39:27 PM
That is why I bought an HVLP gun. sick of the stupid rattle cans getting partially done and then plugging up. The quality of them now is less than garbage.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on March 05, 2021, 09:44:17 PM
Good thing you didn't 'paint' the young fella, there would have been no dealing with grandma. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 05, 2021, 09:48:17 PM
Good thing you didn't 'paint' the young fella, there would have been no dealing with grandma. :D
Now THAT I did think about before I drove that awl home and I put him behind me just in case. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 05, 2021, 10:14:21 PM
no wonder the grandkids like to hang with grandpa in the shop.  very exciting.   :o :o :o :) :) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on March 06, 2021, 08:24:05 AM
Reminds me of the Mr. Bean skit of painting with fireworks.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on March 06, 2021, 09:19:32 AM
Tom,

   At least your grandson had a good time. Did you get him to promise not to tell Mommy and Grandma and see how long it took him to rat you out? :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 06, 2021, 09:41:53 AM
Tom,

   At least your grandson had a good time. Did you get him to promise not to tell Mommy and Grandma and see how long it took him to rat you out? :D
Nah, I didn't see the point in putting pressure on him. I knew it wouldn't take long before he mentioned it, the question was would anybody pick up on it and ask the details. Well it only took an hour.
 Aah, it's only a shop. I have many paint stains on the floor and walls from when my son was 'learning', I guess it was just my turn. But I reserve the right to feel stupid for a long time. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 06, 2021, 09:48:04 AM
I should point out that I had considered asking him to keep it our secret (just for a fun thing thing between he and I which I knew would not last), but then I realized it would be a bad lesson in covering up your mistakes, so I took the high road and just told him "Nope Grandpa just did something really dumb, so now I have to clean it up and fix the mess I made, it was my fault because I didn't think it through." I thought that was the better lesson for him to take away.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on March 06, 2021, 10:25:42 AM
   Years ago we were taking our granddaughter home and we had 6-8 inches of snow on our mountain road. I met a big dump truck and pulled too far over in spite of my wife's stern warning and got stuck in the ditch. There was a loader along a few minutes later so I hooked a tow cable to the truck and he pulled us right out - we weren't there 5 minutes. I told Molly to promise not to tell anyone Grandpa had been stuck. We took her home and got her older sisters off the bus. An hour or so later her mom got home and she ran outside and met her at the car and told her "Mommy, Mommy, Grandpa got stuck in the snow. Grandma told him not to but he did anyway." She got a kick out of ratting me out especially since she knew she was not supposed to. Now if you ask her to keep a secret she just says "Nope. I tell everything." Her sisters say the same thing about her.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 16, 2021, 01:19:02 PM
I use a cordless Ryobi little circular saw to cut stickers to length as I'm stacking lumber.  It was over a week ago that I stacked wood under my deck.  Today I went down there to get some stickers to use while stacking wood somewhere else.  I found my saw sitting out on a table that is not under cover.  I think it's rained 3 inches since last week.  Dang it.  I picked it up and took the battery out.  I will let it dry a good while before I try using it.  It occurred to me that the kiln shed is about 80 deg and really dry right now, so I put it in there with a fan blowing on it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on March 16, 2021, 03:00:47 PM
Brain cramp :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: lazyflee on March 16, 2021, 03:13:38 PM
I use that ceramic engine spray paint for my big snowblower on my tractor. Had a fresh can of black, couldn't get the top off, smacked it on the edge of a table......top came off along with the nozzle. In my face, all over the garage. Ran to the door with my hand covering the uncontrollable spray and realized I couldn't open the door. Stood there until it ran out. Nasty stuff and still all over the garage floor. I'm real careful with those tops now!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on March 16, 2021, 05:02:02 PM
I thought I had a decent setup on my portable table saw. I needed a zero clearance plate to I could put grooves into 3/8" stock. Well, apparently my zero clearance plate did not stay put even with a feather board on top of it holding it down. 

Just as I was turning back to run another piece through.....


out came my zero clearance plate at about mach 3...... 


wammo, straight into my gut. That kinda hurt, alot.

Now my zero clearance plate has a stop block screwed to it so it at least cannot come back towards me. Worst thing is my dad has my good tablesaw.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on March 17, 2021, 03:21:35 PM
Twice now I've learned the lesson of table saw kickbacks, not the plate but enough to give me some respect for thrown wood. Once a piece came off and wedged itself in the weather-stripping of the wife's car's back windshield, luckily no real damage but it was tough to get it out. Next was a long piece, where I was cutting off the rounded edge of a 2x4, and it shot probably 40 feet across my shop and garage and clanged off some stuff, luckily that time I've got a motorcycle trailer standing up, in the way of a window I imagine the piece would have gone through. 

Those things are no joke. Hope you are ok @Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059) 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: HemlockKing on March 17, 2021, 04:34:51 PM
Twice now I've learned the lesson of table saw kickbacks, not the plate but enough to give me some respect for thrown wood. Once a piece came off and wedged itself in the weather-stripping of the wife's car's back windshield, luckily no real damage but it was tough to get it out. Next was a long piece, where I was cutting off the rounded edge of a 2x4, and it shot probably 40 feet across my shop and garage and clanged off some stuff, luckily that time I've got a motorcycle trailer standing up, in the way of a window I imagine the piece would have gone through.

Those things are no joke. Hope you are ok @Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059)
I hate using table saws and angle grinders with cutting discs on. Haven't had any bad accidents to date yet though
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 17, 2021, 04:40:00 PM
I have never heard of a throat plate ripping out. That had to get your attention. Geez, glad you didn't loose anything. I will say that I never stand in that line of fire because table saws have too many things that can go wrong and there is a lot of power in there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on March 17, 2021, 08:27:01 PM
wasn't a true plate it was actually a piece of walnut about 2" wide 18" long and 3/8" thick. was a reject piece for my table and did a great job of closing the giant gap up around the blade. it actually sat on the table. not in it like it should have. I was to lazy to make a real one.

Still tender where I got hit, the color is starting to show through. I will live, and I will remember! :)

cutoff wheels on grinders are definitely scary. never skimp on cheap wheels. and for the love of god ppl, put your guards back on your angle grinders!!! they are there for a reason!!!!

ok, rant over :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 17, 2021, 09:14:57 PM
I have a bunch of phenolic resin pieces that would make great throat plates.  

I have been bit numerous times by not having the guard on angle grinder.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on March 17, 2021, 09:33:56 PM
Uhh yeah, with a thin cutoff wheel you can do about $600 of damage real quick and be thankful the finger is still there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on March 18, 2021, 08:08:46 AM
Do higher quality angle grinders inspire more confidence than say a Harbor Freight one? It is definitely one of those scary but very useful tools. My HF one has a difficult-to-turn-on switch that is also difficult to hold down/on. It makes it feel like any minute I can fudge it up and either lose my grip or toss it in a weird way. I've been hesitant to buy a higher quality one for fear that it'll be basically the same spinny nightmare. Do they make pistol grip angle grinders with a trigger? Anyone happy and confident with theirs?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on March 18, 2021, 08:28:18 AM
I have a Dewalt at the office we use for hoof work, it will peel the hide off of your thumb just the same as my cheapie Clark at home...note to self, always stop and put the leather gloves on they will help.... The notch in my thumb did fill back in after a while.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on March 18, 2021, 08:32:37 AM
I have a makita that will lock in place. It will release with gloves on very easy, but hard to lock in place with gloves.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Skip on March 18, 2021, 08:44:32 AM
A welders helper had a wheel explode and a piece of the wheel went in his leg just missed his artery :o .Found pieces embedded in the welders truck and some a couple hundred feet away, full scale investigation . He was using high dollar grinder, wheel not rated for the RPMs .Took him a while to heal up piece of wheel, grit, carharts etc in his leg took the E.R awhile to get it out.Good thing one of the swampers was an ex-corpsman.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on March 18, 2021, 08:52:52 AM
Wow, how could a wheel not be rated for high speed.
I was working below a helper and felt something bounce off my back, he had gotten a cutoff wheel in a bind and it shattered. 

I much prefer a deadman switch on a grinder. My wife was up in a workbasket with a chainsaw head on a grinder touching up logs when it got away from her and chased her all over the basket, she hopped up on the railing till I could get to the plug. We went and bought one with a deadman switch that evening. Won't keep it from biting you but will keep it from chasing you down.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Hilltop366 on March 18, 2021, 09:30:23 AM
Had a large cutoff wheel on a 7" angle grinder split in two, I was around 10 ft away bent over changing a motorcycle tire, Ĺ of wheel hit me on the head and knocked me off my feet. Turns out you bleed quite a bit with a 2 inch cut on your head and you don't have to wait at ER when you walk in with blood running down your face but you get the oddest looks from other people. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 18, 2021, 10:24:28 AM
the cheap ones "rattle" more but I cannot wear them out.  I have a batt. operated DeWalt also.  I have a 9" HF one, that I would not have paid the money for a name brand, as I do not use it that often.  I like the flapper wheels to clean things up.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 18, 2021, 10:49:49 AM
Wow, how could a wheel not be rated for high speed.
....
Don, you would be surprised.. Before I retired a part of my job (do it is your spare time..) was as the Machine Guarding Single Point of Accountability (SPA) (that is corporate speak for 'the guy we blame'). One of our plants had a wheel explosion and found it was an incorrect RPM rating so I have to go around our shop to every buffer, bench grinder, surface grinder, cylindrical grinder, thread grinder, ID grinder, and more to put labels on each one with it's spindle speed, then re-write all the wheel change procedures to include bold type about confirming the wheel speed rating before changing the wheel. (There were somewhere around 90 machines involved.)
 As a result, we started to learn a lot of wheels we used routinely did not match or exceed the various machine speeds. We caught and fixed these as we discovered them. I got hammered in an audit later on because they had added two buffer/grinders without telling me and they had no labels. ;D I should have been shot on the spot, according to the auditor. SHAME! (Dang pencil pushers.)
 In all my years studying safety issues with wheels and such, the grinding wheels and discs are bad but wire wheels are the worst. Strands come out and find the dangdist places to lodge, like eyeballs, legs, arms, faces, etc. I have had a very healthy respect for all of these bonded wheels since I was about 19 and had a 2" wide x 20" diameter cylindrical grinding wheel explode on me. Part went through the wall behind me, part went through the built up steel roof, and the rest we never found. Once was enough for me. We did have a guy in that shop that would blow up at least one wheel a week, even diamond wheels (which you have to work hard to do), but he drank a lot. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Skip on March 18, 2021, 11:41:01 AM
The wheel that exploded was a counter fit Chinese knock of a name brand and did not meet specs >:(. Came in with legit order the warehouse man placed  . Legit wheels have max rpm and other info on them .
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on March 18, 2021, 11:52:21 AM
Somebody in the suppliers purchasing department should be hung out to dry! I had some battles over issues like that in the aircraft industry.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 18, 2021, 12:11:52 PM
I worked in aerospace hydraulics early in my career and did a stint in Quality control while I was recovering from an injury. I learned early on about the strict traceability requirements through the entire life of an item, from raw material to scrap. They are dead serious about that and I lived through an investigation where the FAA and DOD came in with no advance notice, erected a 1,000 sq.ft secure enclosure in the middle of our shop, took every valve we had in stock and locked them up under a guard, then collected every piece of paperwork generated during the manufacture of those parts while they slowly disassembled them and traced the source of every single component and looked at every machinist that performed each machining op on those parts. This was all because of a series of failures resulting in losses of a particular model military fighter jet. They were trying to locate the root cause and one of our valves was a suspect. It was pretty tense in the shop for about a month. Then one day, it ended like a light switch was shut off. Another team at some other plant across the country had found the root cause in another component and the inspectors never came back, but they left us with a mess to clean up and document.
 Not every industry has such a strict process and traceability. I learned a lot during that event that made me into a pretty good troubleshooter over the following decades. I found a lot of causes that everyone before me had missed because I drilled into details they had not. I also learned to have a very healthy respect for liability as a manufacturer, one that many never seem to learn.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 18, 2021, 12:38:38 PM
I was on a call with my uncle and cousin regarding some health issues.  my uncle has developed an arthritis and now his blood pressure is up.  my cousin means well, she works in a nursing home and is an emt and team leader.  the doc added a new bp med, in addition to the old one, and later with lab work, showed a normal uric acid (they were treating presumed gout)  they added a third.  of course my cousin "bless her heart" thought it was the end of the world even though he had not started any of the new meds.  I of course deal with this all DanG day at work and was multi tasking.  oh by the way, I put a new blade on the table saw, and it did not cut well and made a lot of smoke.


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I guess I subconsciously thought surely a carbide blade could cut walnut backwards with no problem.   :o :o :o   :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 18, 2021, 12:47:16 PM
this is what I was working on.  


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was my wife's friends birthday yesterday.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 18, 2021, 12:54:04 PM
Brain cramp. There is a lot of that going around. We all get 'em. The project looks like it came out OK anyway. ;D :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 18, 2021, 01:01:07 PM
At least you figured it out pretty quickly.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 18, 2021, 01:02:42 PM
still got my fingers,  took another 16th off the edge.   ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 18, 2021, 01:09:39 PM
At least you figured it out pretty quickly.  
:D :D :D :D
 I am thinking that he got some pretty strong clues in short order. ;D ;D
 Let he amongst us who is without sin....
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 18, 2021, 02:48:58 PM
do not work distracted.  I was not "working or sawing"  but changing a blade and talking on the phone.  may have even rolled my eyes a couple times.  but it got me when I was cutting.  smoke and a board the wanted to climb up the blade.   :o   8)   :)

you can see the lingering smoke in the pics... or is that the spirit of the blade?   ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on March 18, 2021, 03:56:59 PM
Do higher quality angle grinders inspire more confidence than say a Harbor Freight one? It is definitely one of those scary but very useful tools. My HF one has a difficult-to-turn-on switch that is also difficult to hold down/on. It makes it feel like any minute I can fudge it up and either lose my grip or toss it in a weird way. I've been hesitant to buy a higher quality one for fear that it'll be basically the same spinny nightmare. Do they make pistol grip angle grinders with a trigger? Anyone happy and confident with theirs?
all my grinders have a locking slide switch. I hate the paddle switch they are never easy to hold in odd locations.

The nicer / better grinders I have are 11,000 rpm. This makes you pay real close attention to what you buy to put on it. I learned real quick cheap cone wire brushes leave your belly full of long metal spines. Those are a huge no go. Cheap cutoff wheels I have taken to many ppl to the hospital because of. Not from my shop but from my firefighter days.

I always say this. if the tool is comfortable your going to be much better at using it. If you can never get into a comfortable position using it, you will never be great with it.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on March 18, 2021, 04:04:57 PM
doc thats funny. the worst thing is till I read what you wrote I thought it was a reverse rotation table saw.

I think I need to get a new job and some sleep!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Walnut Beast on March 18, 2021, 04:19:18 PM
Nice job Doc. I bet she loved it 👍
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 18, 2021, 04:49:53 PM
she will get it this weekend, thanks!  we plan to go to a running race in the town she teaches in.  we will surprise her with our presence and presents.  I hope she does not read this.  :o   lol  her husband retired early from Halliburton, and is the guy I went fishing with the last 4 times I went fishing.  the girls run, and the guys fish.  
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on March 19, 2021, 08:20:14 AM
Thanks @Crusarius (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=35059) I just saw the paddle switch variety, looking through a catalog, yesterday, and thought that looked like a decent option, maybe not... I also saw the higher quality (name branded, at least) weren't as pricey as I thought, so maybe it's time to go shopping. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on March 19, 2021, 09:43:19 AM
@doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041)  I see your friend received  a quality  education.  ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Crusarius on March 19, 2021, 09:51:05 AM
I have dewalt grinders. I love them. All of the ones I have ever tried with the paddle switch I hated. Mine all have the slide and lock switch. It takes more work to lock them on than it does to shut them off. This sometimes is a pain but after I had someone elses cheap knockoff grinder get away from me I prefer it.

With the lock switch make sure you always have a good grip on it. I had one get away from me when I was grinding the plasma cut corners of some 16 gauge stainless. The grinder jumped out of my hand took off up my arm across my chest and then down the other arm. I ended up catching it by the cord still running. Only thing that saved me was the flannel I was wearing. From that day I have been much more careful and meticulous about the grinders I buy.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: aigheadish on March 19, 2021, 09:56:26 AM
Yeah, that's real sketchy! I'll give it to the HF one I have that it's hard to turn on but it turns off pretty quickly once I release the button. Doesn't slow down that quickly but at least it's on its way if I lose control. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 19, 2021, 04:51:16 PM
I.   CAN'T.    EVEN.......




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OK, OK. I too have seen photos like this in the past and said to myself, 'how can a person be SO stupid?' Well, now I know. No excuses, really stupid. No, this was NOT my chosen direction of fall. I had just minutes before dropped two other trees right near the tailgate of the truck to make loading easier without issue and spot on target to make bucking and loading easier. These are small trees so not a lot to work with on the stump, the hinge was whisper thin and it wouldn't go over. This one I felled against the lean and got it over the lean point but it just wouldn't fall, then the wind picked up and took it like a kite, tore the hinge and went right into my cab. No biggie, just a tiny ding that is barely visible, but still my humility took a nose dive.
 Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on March 19, 2021, 05:03:29 PM
Now that is a mushroom log logger right there.  be honest, you were keeping it up off the ground to avoid contamination with some poisonous variety.  you prob. just saved someone's life.  DanG, don't be so humble @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103)    :)  I sure hope the growers you sell to appreciate the sacrifices you are willing to make.   ;)  well at least the chain was not on backwards....  right?   ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 19, 2021, 05:10:59 PM
Dohhh!  Could have  been worse for sure.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 19, 2021, 05:11:40 PM
I note that it took 21 minutes for the first response. Longer than I guessed. ;D No, there were no other buffoon like mistakes today, unless you count my back, but that is normal and not 'dumb related'.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 19, 2021, 05:13:42 PM
Dohhh!  Could have  been worse for sure.
Yeah, I don't like working in 25 MPH+ winds, and that really was what got me, but I should have known better. I hollered like heck the entire time the tree was falling, but it didn't seem to help much. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on March 19, 2021, 09:42:48 PM
It reminds me of a customer who brought his new to him saw in because it wouldn't start. It had obviously been straight gassed, he sucked it up and paid for the rebuild. A few days later he brought it back, no power. I checked it, the saw was running fine but he didn't know to start the chain moving before starting the cut. Fast forward a few weeks. He is back with the saw in a box, biggest part was the carburetor. It seems he came upon his mates trying to drop a large Ponderosa pine, they had gone all the way around leaving a bolt in the middle. No problem, he cut through it with his longer bar. The tree took out the saw and his truck. These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: GAB on March 20, 2021, 08:54:36 AM
It reminds me of a customer who brought his new to him saw in because it wouldn't start. It had obviously been straight gassed, he sucked it up and paid for the rebuild. A few days later he brought it back, no power. I checked it, the saw was running fine but he didn't know to start the chain moving before starting the cut. Fast forward a few weeks. He is back with the saw in a box, biggest part was the carburetor. It seems he came upon his mates trying to drop a large Ponderosa pine, they had gone all the way around leaving a bolt in the middle. No problem, he cut through it with his longer bar. The tree took out the saw and his truck. These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)
These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)  
Your customer must have been the newest member, and needed to do a lot more studying.
GAB
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 20, 2021, 09:31:48 AM
It reminds me of a customer who brought his new to him saw in because it wouldn't start. It had obviously been straight gassed, he sucked it up and paid for the rebuild. A few days later he brought it back, no power. I checked it, the saw was running fine but he didn't know to start the chain moving before starting the cut. Fast forward a few weeks. He is back with the saw in a box, biggest part was the carburetor. It seems he came upon his mates trying to drop a large Ponderosa pine, they had gone all the way around leaving a bolt in the middle. No problem, he cut through it with his longer bar. The tree took out the saw and his truck. These guys were from a community of loggers. ::)
I don't want to sound judgmental, but if I ever did stuff like that I would not show my face ever again. We all learn and make mistakes, but geez!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on March 20, 2021, 11:26:05 AM
 :D I thought all of them came out of the womb with a saw in their hands but apparently not. At least he was able to laugh at himself.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 20, 2021, 11:29:26 AM
........ At least he was able to laugh at himself.:D
If he couldn't, he would be alone.
 We all do dumb stuff, but that fella seems to have a streak going. Perhaps not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on March 20, 2021, 05:55:38 PM
As you already know OGH, I wrote the book on ďDumbĒ and published it like 2 weeks ago exactly, almost to the minute. I have recovered quite well.  However, on my next edition, OGH, you can have a chapter yourself.   
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on March 20, 2021, 06:05:23 PM
OH, that's not good. Glad to hear you are coming along since your book. I hope I can manage to not reach quite that level.
 We all have those moments and no matter how hard we try, occasionally we just mis-think something. In fact, now that I recall, when I was an active fire instructor, I did a session on "non-thinking syndrome: NTS, the silent killer" which illuminated a bunch )with photos and videos) of serious incidents resulting from a simple brain cramp anybody could have had, it just happened at the wrong moment in time.
 Nobody is immune.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Silverfoxfintry on March 21, 2021, 04:57:19 AM
Wow, how could a wheel not be rated for high speed.
....
Don, you would be surprised.. Before I retired a part of my job (do it is your spare time..) was as the Machine Guarding Single Point of Accountability (SPA) (that is corporate speak for 'the guy we blame'). One of our plants had a wheel explosion and found it was an incorrect RPM rating so I have to go around our shop to every buffer, bench grinder, surface grinder, cylindrical grinder, thread grinder, ID grinder, and more to put labels on each one with it's spindle speed, then re-write all the wheel change procedures to include bold type about confirming the wheel speed rating before changing the wheel. (There were somewhere around 90 machines involved.)
 As a result, we started to learn a lot of wheels we used routinely did not match or exceed the various machine speeds. We caught and fixed these as we discovered them. I got hammered in an audit later on because they had added two buffer/grinders without telling me and they had no labels. ;D I should have been shot on the spot, according to the auditor. SHAME! (Dang pencil pushers.)
 In all my years studying safety issues with wheels and such, the grinding wheels and discs are bad but wire wheels are the worst. Strands come out and find the dangdist places to lodge, like eyeballs, legs, arms, faces, etc. I have had a very healthy respect for all of these bonded wheels since I was about 19 and had a 2" wide x 20" diameter cylindrical grinding wheel explode on me. Part went through the wall behind me, part went through the built up steel roof, and the rest we never found. Once was enough for me. We did have a guy in that shop that would blow up at least one wheel a week, even diamond wheels (which you have to work hard to do), but he drank a lot. :D
One of the Oil Rigs in the North Sea I used to visit had a brand new 10Ē bench grinder. VERY LARGE SIGN ATTACHED ď DO NOT USEĒ Also the connecting plug removed. Some idiot had specified that it was fitted with a ďQuick StopĒ The first time it was used the Left hand Grindstone unscrewed and shattered inside the guard. Sometimes health and safety can go too far.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: lazyflee on March 21, 2021, 01:37:11 PM
 
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The world slowed down as I just watched this sucker roll right off the other side. Rookie!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on March 21, 2021, 02:55:22 PM
So THAT'S what those stop thingees are for. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on March 21, 2021, 03:01:01 PM
Donít worry you can do that with some experience too.
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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: 21incher on March 21, 2021, 04:45:49 PM
OGH I hate to admit it but I did that to my Little John Deer also. Even had a rope tied from it to the tree so the tree would fall in that direction :-[. Found out ROPs are good protection from falling trees when you misjudge the height.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on March 21, 2021, 09:57:49 PM
 @lazyflee (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=49541) do you mean to tell me that power feed doesn't stop that from happening?  What good is it then?
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: lazyflee on March 21, 2021, 10:31:39 PM
The manual clearly states EDITED BY ADMIN Will be calling Woodmizer tomorrow
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on March 21, 2021, 10:35:35 PM
   Boy am I glad I've never done anything like that! ::)

    I was sawing Saturday and forgot to lower my claw but my debarker found it before the blade. Then I did the same thing on the very next log and knocked some paint off the claw and ruined that blade. Duh! ;)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 01, 2021, 06:30:48 PM
  Wow, nearly 10 days without anybody admitting to doing something dumb only to find the last post was me anyway. ::) I had a customer call and wanted a couple of rough 2X12's about 14' long as sideboards to a new dump trailer and as luck would have it I had a couple of 15' ash 2X12's so I slid them off on the short forks of my FEL and took them out to the front lot. He'd mentioned trimming them to the exact length so I brought a square and my 15 amp Porter Cable 7-1/4" circle saw. I set the saw on my tool box between the tractor and FEL arms. When I got to the lot I lowered the boards on the FEL and caught the handle of the saw between the FEL arms and broke the pot metal on the handle. It still works but is not long for this world. Then when the customer arrived I had to take a belt sander to the ends of one of the boards to try to trim it to fit and used up a couple of belts just trying to do that. I just checked and see the saws like mine ranged in price from $54-$150. Pretty amazing to see that much difference. Anyway it looks like the $60 for the 2 boards will likely go to TSC for a replacement saw on my next trip to town. Like the guy buying gum for 25 cents a pack of 5 and selling it for a nickel a stick. He got a lot of business but didn't make a lot of money.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 01, 2021, 07:18:29 PM
I saw that you had made a post here and my heart sank. But was very glad to see it was only a tool. That's a bummer, but a LOT cheaper than an ER visit. Besides, everyone needs a new saw once in a while. ;D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on April 01, 2021, 09:51:41 PM
My turn.....I forgot to close the latches on my quick attach bale fork.... no animals were injured during the loading of the bale. I was fortunate. Got distracted by a phone call....  ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 01, 2021, 10:19:42 PM
I remember doing something dumb the other day, so I hope that makes you feel better... but now I do not remember what it was, so sorry.  I am sure it was not that dumb...!!!  :) :) :) :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on April 01, 2021, 10:27:44 PM
Gee thanks..... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 01, 2021, 10:35:29 PM
yeah, I meant relative to me, not you !  not as dumb as usual for me!   :'( :-[ :o ;) :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Texas Ranger on April 02, 2021, 09:09:30 AM
Would not be the end of the week if I had not done some thing dumb.  But, no blood, no harm.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 02, 2021, 09:22:36 AM
   I agree - there are degrees of dumbness. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 02, 2021, 09:35:08 AM
I'm pretty certain I did something really dumb this week, but I have blocked it from my memory.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on April 02, 2021, 10:28:40 AM
Well  that was the dumb thing I was owning up to. Mostly to self reinforce and act as attrition for a near but completely  avoidable disaster.  I was hurrying, distracted, and my brain was at work, not on the job at hand. I know nobody else ever has that  happen.... :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 02, 2021, 12:03:17 PM
PTSDD.  you can guess what the first D stands for.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: trapper on April 02, 2021, 10:07:07 PM
building a rack to cut firewood on.  One end needed a little trimming.   Yep hit the screw  I just put in with the chainsaw
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 03, 2021, 05:54:41 AM
Did the same thing when I made my sawbuck.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on April 03, 2021, 06:59:59 AM
I sawed my sawmill tire 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on April 03, 2021, 08:17:46 AM
I put a fork in the trailer tire, I tried but Jesse said he was all out of 4" plugs  :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on April 03, 2021, 08:47:48 AM
That fork in the tire deal was similar to my corner of the grapple bucket a few weeks ago  no plug that big!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on April 03, 2021, 04:20:23 PM
We were cutting up some junk helicopter blade boxes, the saw stopped cutting halfway through one. Yep, a brand new $20,000 blade was hiding in it. One of only two in the country! We very nearly lost our jobs over that one.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on April 03, 2021, 05:49:29 PM
I sawed my tooth a week ago.  Chain turner tooth I mean.  Guess it doesnt count because it wasnt today. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: RAYAR on April 04, 2021, 03:29:49 PM
This would actually be "Did Something Smart". I tried to cut into a backstop, but the blade guard I built wouldn't allow it. Gotta love it. The guard extends 1/4" below the blade.

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Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on April 04, 2021, 03:41:34 PM
Did anyone ever have a helper who started waving his arms?

More than once I've thought I was going to saw into my clamp or something worse. 

But the guy just likes to wave his arms when he talks.  Downright confusing. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on April 04, 2021, 04:08:18 PM
Fuelling saw while telling kid to stay out of the bonfire smoke..  Waste motor oil in the gas tank. 


Dangit. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 04, 2021, 05:12:34 PM
I sawed my tooth a week ago.  Chain turner tooth I mean.  Guess it doesnt count because it wasnt today.
It counts man, it counts.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on April 04, 2021, 06:40:56 PM
@mike_belben (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=33722) now that is funny. Very annoying but still funny.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on April 04, 2021, 10:05:08 PM
It did still run but quite poorly.  I was at a ladys house from church to burn a stump pile for her and didnt even realize i had no other gas.  Got it done.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 04, 2021, 10:44:34 PM
It did still run but quite poorly.  
This part made me really laugh...NEVER give up man!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: mike_belben on April 04, 2021, 11:28:10 PM
No.. A quitter i am not.  Way too stubborn for it. 

Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: moosehunter on April 05, 2021, 06:28:20 PM
It's 5:10, I have an appointment at 5:30. What to do with 20 minutes? Oh ya, I hit something with chain saw while bucking logs the other day. I'll change the chain. Got the sharp chain pretty quick. It was actually where it should be. For me that's pretty good. Now where did I leave any one of my dozen screnches? 5 minutes, the clock is ticking..... Take the dull chain off, yup, many tips rounded off. Clean everything up put it back together, put the bar protector on, put the saw back and shut the door on the tool box. What do you suppose is sitting on top of the tool box? Ayup, the sharp chain. At least I put the dull chain on in the correct direction! I still got the sharp chain on by 5:30. 
mh
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 05, 2021, 07:49:15 PM
   You should have after that much practice. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 05, 2021, 08:01:31 PM
It's 5:10, I have an appointment at 5:30. What to do with 20 minutes? Oh ya, I hit something with chain saw while bucking logs the other day. I'll change the chain. Got the sharp chain pretty quick. It was actually where it should be. For me that's pretty good. Now where did I leave any one of my dozen screnches? 5 minutes, the clock is ticking..... Take the dull chain off, yup, many tips rounded off. Clean everything up put it back together, put the bar protector on, put the saw back and shut the door on the tool box. What do you suppose is sitting on top of the tool box? Ayup, the sharp chain. At least I put the dull chain on in the correct direction! I still got the sharp chain on by 5:30.
mh
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D :) Oh man, if I had a nickel for every time I did something 'Like' this. Sorry man, but that's funny. I thought it was just me.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on April 05, 2021, 08:35:57 PM
No, it's not just you. Believe me! :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Nebraska on April 05, 2021, 09:42:07 PM
Read that one to my wife she said,  "hmmm, sounds like you". I think I only have six screches though,   laughing  with you... 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on April 06, 2021, 05:44:45 AM
Working on my gravel driveway. I had a few ruts from the spring thaw. Don't need water running down the ruts. I pick up the gravel that gets plowed up beside the dirt road I live on. I mow beside the road so I don't want to mow the ridge with gravel and rocks in it. I had a bucket full of dirt that I was shoveling into the ruts. I set the brake and put the shovel beside the tractor, by the front tire. Just as my feet hit the ground the tractor starts to slowly roll down hill. No big deal, I just get back onto the tractor and reset the brake. Remember where I put the shovel? Just about as I get back into the seat, I hear a noise that I should not be hearing!! Shovel is under the front tire of tractor. On well that shovel was just about worn out anyways,  :D  ::). I needed a new one.  ::) I could of moved the shovel very easily, but forgot I put it there.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on April 06, 2021, 07:29:44 AM
At least you know a hardware store where you can get a new one ;D. 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 06, 2021, 09:49:01 AM
   Probably even gets an employee discount. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 06, 2021, 10:21:05 AM
You're gonna need a bigger shovel if you want to use it as a wheel chock.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 06, 2021, 11:18:17 AM
You're gonna need a bigger shovel if you want to use it as a wheel chock.
My son tried using his fire helmet vas a wheel chock for the engine and it didn't work out so good. Actually that wasn't his plan, he thought his gear was out of the way, but the driver didn't see it. I ran over my own pager once at a call, it fell off my bunkers when climbing in the engine and I ran the dang thing over. I think both those things happened during the 3 days of non-stop calls during hurricane Irene. We were all fried.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on April 06, 2021, 04:56:48 PM
Shovel has been replaced!!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 06, 2021, 05:49:52 PM
 @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) I think you know if a firetruck can run over it, firefighters will run over it.  We have ran over helmets, turnout gear, station boots(does a number on steel toes), wheel chocks, radios, buckets, mailboxes, etc.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: samandothers on April 06, 2021, 07:21:57 PM
My wheel chock was a saw box.  Parked tractor on side of hill and set parking brake.  Pull the saw from the box and set box in behind tractor and commenced cutting.  Later in the day went to put the saw up and found the box chocking the tire.  Parking brake must need adjusting! 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 08, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Well, this dumb thing really happened about 6 months ago I think.  I put in a new kitchen faucet back then and I guess the cold water valve under the sink has been leaking since then.  Sometimes when you shut a valve off, it will leak after re-opening.  I know this and always check.  It must have taken quite a while to actually show itself and I didn't notice it at the time.  Well, fast forward 6 months and my wife called me at work last night.  There is water dripping in son's room below.  Ceiling paneling is buckled.  I told her it was probably a leak in a shutoff above the room and not a big deal.  Well, since I found the leak in the kitchen, I also found water damage in the wall, insulation, subfloor and even some wet spots are now visible in the hardwood floor in the kitchen.  Didn't notice that because of the rug in front of the sink.  What a mess I have to deal with.  Have to remove a bunch of dry wall in son's room and at least the floor is carpet squares.  Also had some mold in the space above the ceiling.  The good news is that I replaced the valve and it doesn't leak.  Oh well.  Its not like I wanted to mill walnut today.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Don P on April 08, 2021, 03:57:11 PM
Faucet troubles brought back a memory. When my wife's folks retired down to the redneck riviera whenever one us 4 son's or son in laws would visit we would check on things and fix up. During one of our visits I noticed the kitchen faucet was dripping, the water was not the greatest on plumbing. Wanting to get it done and not make multiple trips to the hardware I just bought a whole new faucet and installed it. Thinking the old one would work just fine out at the cleaning sink on the dock I took it downstairs to put on the shelf for later. Yup, there were three others lined up, great minds think alike  :D.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: WDH on April 09, 2021, 07:02:41 AM
Mathematical truths:

For a right triangle a squared +b squared = c squared.  
Areas of a circle pi r squared
Circumference of a circle 2 pi r
10 x 10 = 100
For plumbing 1 trip to Lowes = 3 trips to Lowes 
:D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 09, 2021, 07:05:55 AM
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) as the farmer said to his son returning from college, "son everybody knows that pie R round!"   :)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: thecfarm on April 09, 2021, 07:07:30 AM
Some one comes into the store for plumbing parts. I tell them we close at 6.  ;D  :(
If we all did plumbing as much as sawing, we would know how to do it better!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 09, 2021, 07:21:10 AM
@WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) as the farmer said to his son returning from college, "son everybody knows that pie R round!"   :)
Yes, pie are round, but Cornbread are square!
This is why I have MORE than several drawers with all those mis-bought parts and fitting and leftovers. It is SO nice to find a leak on a Sunday night and just go out to the shop, pick the fittings I need and fix it in 20 minutes with no trip to lowes. The problem is find the fitting, the RIGHT fitting. But when it happens, it's golden.
 I tried to pick up some 1/4" couplings and close nips the other day because I have no more in the drawer and holy cow Lowes and HD are very proud of their fittings. I'll wait to hit a plumbing supply and get them for a buck a piece. One of the few things I miss about working was pulling all those fitting out of the scrap barrel. I went 40 years without hardly ever buying any, just collecting discards.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: HemlockKing on April 09, 2021, 07:48:28 AM
Some one comes into the store for plumbing parts. I tell them we close at 6.  ;D  :(
If we all did plumbing as much as sawing, we would know how to do it better!!
I have no experience as a plumber other than a few years ago I took on a ďlabourerĒ position on a plumbing crew, turns out all they really needed me for was making runs to the hardware store, 3 sometimes 4 times a day :D so the previous comments gave me a chuckle 
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Magicman on April 09, 2021, 08:24:39 AM
Marty and I only had to make 2 trips to Home Depot last evening.  (The hardware store was closed.)  The first trip was a bust because they were out of water heater element wrenches.  Yes the element(s) can be removed with an oversize crescent wrench combined with a small pipe wrench.  We did OK on the second trip and got the total package which included 2ea. elements and thermostats.  Might as well change out everything while the tank is drained.  Supper was late.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 09, 2021, 08:51:48 AM
OG, my dad has several plastic tubs where he keeps all his extra plumbing fittings and valves and various other extra plumbing stuff.  I always look there first before I head to the store.  When I do go to the store I always get extra and put what I don't use in the tubs.  As you say, It's nice to find what you need at home and save a trip.  Mom and dad live walking distance away(I drive the mule).  Someday I will inherit those tubs and It will be up to me to keep the tubs supplied.  I ended up replacing the leaky valve with a shark bite type valve.  I intended to replace hot and cold, but didn't end up replacing the hot.  I rebuilt it with parts from one of the spares from the tubs.  I will of course put the extra shark bite I bought in the tubs.
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: doc henderson on April 09, 2021, 09:10:21 AM
my neighbors check with me before they go to the big box store!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: Old Greenhorn on April 09, 2021, 09:22:49 AM
OG, my dad has several plastic tubs where he keeps all his extra plumbing fittings and valves and various other extra plumbing stuff.  I always look there first before I head to the store.  When I do go to the store I always get extra and put what I don't use in the tubs.  As you say, It's nice to find what you need at home and save a trip.  Mom and dad live walking distance away(I drive the mule).  Someday I will inherit those tubs and It will be up to me to keep the tubs supplied.  I ended up replacing the leaky valve with a shark bite type valve.  I intended to replace hot and cold, but didn't end up replacing the hot.  I rebuilt it with parts from one of the spares from the tubs.  I will of course put the extra shark bite I bought in the tubs.
I used to 'tubs, boxes, crates, large drawers' method for years but it takes SO long to find something. Lately as I get a chance when I am tired, I have smaller drawers available and am sorting more by size and use. I have up to 2-1/2" stuff and the 1/4 and 1/2" stuff gets lost in there. I also try to separate out household plumbing fixtures and parts. It's a never ending task, but paying off in reduced search time.
 Doc, none of my neighbors fix things anymore, if they have a plumbing emergency it is usually me figuring out what they need and digging it up or sending them to Lowes armed with a photo of the item to fetch. :D
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: K-Guy on April 09, 2021, 10:30:23 AM
none of my neighbors fix things anymore, if they have a plumbing emergency it is usually me


Do you make long distance house calls? :D

I'm tired of doing it!!
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: sawguy21 on April 09, 2021, 11:44:50 AM
 :D I have various bits and pieces but never find what I need until after I return from the  store and the job is completed. I mislaid a rather spendy and hard to find part for the truck which as it turned out I didn't need. Found it when I cleaned the cab out. ::)
Title: Re: Did something dumb today.
Post by: ljohnsaw on April 09, 2021, 11:56:07 AM
my neighbors check with me before they go to the big box store!

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(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/30640/20180311_a.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1521518763)
 
And this is before I finished sorting.  Packed to the gills now.  More stuff on the other side and end of the shop.
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Post by: Walnut Beast on April 09, 2021, 03:05:24 PM
Nice! Parmesan cheese containers work great
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Post by: Tacotodd on April 09, 2021, 04:17:20 PM
That looks like my reloading room, except mineís not as neat.
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Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 09, 2021, 06:09:08 PM
Nice! Parmesan cheese containers work great

Just pop the top and sprinkle out a few screws.
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Post by: WV Sawmiller on April 09, 2021, 10:33:09 PM
   My daily dumbness does not rise to the level I usually achieve. After sawing all day and going with the customer to cut and drag up 2 last logs to finish the order I noticed the hours on the mill, checked the gas and found it was low so I added a couple gallons from my spare can. A few minutes later in the first or second cut, the engine began to sputter and choke down. After careful analysis I concluded gasoline engines run better when the hose from the gas tank to the engine is actually plugged back in after you refill it. ::)
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Post by: sawguy21 on April 09, 2021, 11:41:48 PM
Well, isn't that amazing? :D It is a good thing we can laugh and not take ourselves too seriously.
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Post by: thecfarm on April 10, 2021, 05:32:24 AM
At least that problem did not hurt the wallet!!!
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